SHORTS 6 | Jeremy Lasman, Quantum Leader and Pioneer of Imagination Technology™

Welcome to the Loco Shorts Podcast from Loco Think Tank. In this podcast series, Loco Business Developer Rory Shah will help unfold bite-sized business learnings through the crazy experiences the business owners face along their small business journey. Listen in and listen up because these short business stories may just have the secret ingredient to taking your business to its next level of success. Okay, cool. Alright, so I'm Rory. I'm with the Loco Think Tank and today we are recording another episode of the Loco Shorts. So crazy business stories from people who have been in the business world and I am really excited to welcome Jeremy Lassman here today. He is the quantum leader and pioneer of imagination technology. So Jeremy has shared with me some key lessons he's learned about productivity in business, how to make and find more time as a business owner, which is key for so many of us. And then he's got some stories and experience around efficiency, high performance, and thinking kind of like a visionary with work that he's done with Elon Musk. He's got a ton of stories to share. So Jeremy, tell me more about and tell us more about you and your business right now and some of your business journey to what's led you here to us today. Oh, wow, yes. So I think definitely we should just start in the hot zone of SpaceX because that really I feel launch me into everything I'm excited about today and everything that I'm doing as a technologist and as an imagination technologist. So I worked at SpaceX in IT and in marketing as I grew with the company back when it was a startup. I was employing number one 10. So as they're very early, I got to witness and be a part of the launch broadcast of their first successful launch of the Falcon 1. And then subsequently got to work with Elon on a music video for that launch where you know, my duty was to well, make sure that all the tech worked, but was to help to reinvigorate the public's excitement for space travel again. And so doing a music video, right? And so doing a music video was actually kind of unheard of back then because it was very serious. It was NASA. It was these governments that were doing space and of course they're still the space nerds and geeks back then that were part of that. But in terms of the broad public knowing what was actually happening and being aware of the epic Mars vision that he had and everything that makes Elon extraordinary, it was like, we had those walls of privacy and government restrictions, but we also wanted to be fun. And so it was navigating that line with him of like, we want to make something that is different and a music video, but also is serious in that like, you know, we take this seriously and it was a very fine line to navigate, but it was incredibly fun because I got to see how intense he is, how direct and focused and efficient he is with, you know, not wasting time. And so I learned so much just biosmosis of even though I wasn't, you know, part of the actual rocket building and the engineering, the avionics, I got to watch it and I learned so much being there. And so I've taken that passion for being a technologist. After I left SpaceX, I went into the creative route and created a comic book franchise called Mania, which has a for my heart, a huge mission of mental health empowerment behind it. And yeah, amazing, amazing story that I got to make with artists. And then after that, I kind of, I found the deeper passion for what I'm doing today, which is the two arms of my technology love. One is in the tech space, the deep tech space, I am co-founding a quantum computing software company called Quantum Star Systems. And so quantum computing is literally the cutting edge of technology and it's going to disrupt so much of, because right now it's so much data out there and everything is about data in terms of analytics and research and leveraging data for business solutions. Right. And so- Right. And some of the decisions, absolutely. Yeah, business intelligence, yes, exactly. And so we're creating a software development hub that is akin to what Apple did with their iOS SDK, which kind of invented a whole new mobile app industry. So we're doing that for quantum computing and making that available for people that aren't, that don't have physics degrees so that these companies and enterprises can start to harness what quantum computing can do for performance. And then on the other arm is me being a, well, I'll story tell this because this is much more powerful with a story, right? I picked up a biography on Albert Einstein in elementary school way back in elementary school. And ever since I learned that we share the same birthday, I feel like I have been standing on his shoulders to continue his work. And that is what imagination technology is. Is I wanted to create a manual for how to use the imagination and in my unique perspective on quantum mechanics, on looking at the brain as a quantum computer. And that's how I take that and I apply it in a creative fashion to really help people instead of being a victim of their mind, which I was as a highly sensitive person. I was overwhelmed by thoughts, anxieties, neurotic, neuroses, yeah, incredibly loud mind because I was intelligent, I'm just sensitive, yeah, I'm sure there's a few highly sensitive people that are also listening to this as well, where I wanted, I didn't want that anymore. And so my path to transform from being overly consumed to actually feeling on top of my mind and being able to quiet my mind is how I've applied it and how I teach people with imagination technology, how to really harness and leverage their imagination in real world productivities, in flow, in efficiency, lay everything that you mentioned. It's all to me, it's all about unlocking the performance of the brain and making the brain run. So tell me more about that, like I know a lot of businesses and business owners sometimes start a business because they have found and tapped into a personal passion and it's just so natural that it grows and grows and grows and then they can help other people and make revenue off of it. So what happened in your personal and maybe professional experience? What was that crossroads where you're like, wait, this is something I love but also I can help other people with this. Yes, I go back to, actually, I'll go back into the pain of it. It was me in the total opposite state of I am not creative, I don't know what my passion is and feeling like I didn't really have a purpose or a mission or any of that stuff. That was my negative fear state that I kind of, and I mentioned neurotic because when the intelligence is there, it's not fear, it's actually skepticism, it's cynicism, it's pessimism, that's the, how I looked at it was just, I didn't fit in, all that disempowering things, that's where I was and so where I discovered it was, where I wanted to be able to feel like an artist, I wanted to feel the passion that I felt watching professional wrestling and that really inspired me growing up was seeing passion but like, where was my passion? I was so deadened by having to survive and cope with so much sensitivity that I couldn't have emotions and so my process to be like, no, I have a masterpiece to share, I want to discover it so I started to journal, I started to like get stuff out of my mind and started to get ideas of, oh wow, this and this and that was the beginning of imagination technology as my passion for first how I was able to transform myself, that's where it started was that's how I got out of my fears, out of my invisibility of like avoiding the spotlight, avoiding attention, not wanting to bother people, not wanting to take up space, not wanting to be too loud, right? Like all of that shyness, all of that sensitivity of like, oh I can't do this, I can't say that, if I say that, he'll like take that personally and I can't cause people pain, golden rule, just so much neurotic sensitivity that I had emotional paralysis by like being a good person and you're like, I don't know, I just want to be good to everyone. Oh man, analysis paralysis in decision, procrastination, all of these bottlenecks that once I started to become aware of it and open up that pipe, because the bottlenecks I look at as like a pipeline, it's like internet, right? Like if you have a smaller pipe, you're going to get slower speeds. The more I started to open up that pipe, then I started to feel more powerful to actually have ideas and share the ideas and go take risks and to go make a comic book, even though I had never done it before and have fun with the leaps of faith in the, the past following the passion. Talk to me more about that, those leaps of faith. Talk to me more like that kind of before and after, the fear of the leap and then what was the result of some of those things? Yes, so I, it's interesting when you throw around the the label, a dreamer, right? A dreamer. From a certain lens, a dreamer is someone that is not in action. They're just kind of in their thoughts. So I considered myself a dreamer growing up where I hated school, so I'm going to just dream all day in my fantasy world, right? Yeah, it's better up here. Right, right, exactly. But then I reached that edge where it's like, oh, okay, so a dreamer, but I'm not actually taking action on any of my ideas. So what, what good is that? I reached that edge, right? No, it's, it's time for that next level of actually picking something. And I was so afraid of, you know, picking the wrong thing, making a mistake, being stuck, like all these, all these fears, right? And it came to a point where I was like, I was having so many ideas, but I could feel that indecision of, but none of them are good enough. I don't want to commit, but what if I fail all that, all that stuff? And then pretty soon, like, you know, with the cream rising to the top, right? This one idea was just the loudest of them all, and I couldn't ignore it. It just had so much potency of, yes, like the hell, yes, kind of, kind of energy, right? And it was Mania. It was this idea, this concept, this visionary concept for, for this story, for, for, for the science fiction, psychology, clashing with technology, epic narrative that I had. But I didn't know what to do because I didn't consider myself an artist. And so it rose to the top, and I felt that scared excitement of, oh, well, the first step is just making the decision. And so once I did that, I, at the time I was doing like student films, I was acting in student films. The next student film I was at, I met a writer who does Dungeons and Dragons, D&D Master, like creates the world and the characters and the story, and we started in jam. And all of a sudden, he complimented my, my concept to like, oh, I could make a story out of that. I can make characters in world build. And it's, then it just took off from there where it was like the next baby step, the next invitation of the risk, okay? It needs some financial, all right? I'll put that. I'll do that. All right. We need this. We need this. We need this. And I just started to take the leaps as they were, as they were offered. And then about six months, seven months, September, March. Yeah. We made our first comic book. We got it printed and we sold it. And it was, it's amazing. And then the next one, and then I got to speak at Comic Con for a panel, a mental health and comics, because it was, it just took off a little bit and conventions, creating, you know, interacting with fans of it. Did you imagine that? Is that what you aimed for? Yes, and no. Like, I didn't, some of that stuff I didn't know we could do quite honestly, like, and then also definitely as an entrepreneur, I learned a lot that of like, where my, where my talents aren't quite. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, exactly. So, we all learned a lot. And I consider it still, still alive. It's just bookmarked, but yeah, it's, it was huge. Tell me, what did you tell yourself in the moments? And because I'm sure you had these, just pardon me for assuming, but what did you tell yourself in the moment where you said, no, I don't want to do this anymore. Maybe this isn't worth it. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it came pretty clear because the, the amount I was investing, I wasn't seeing the same return. And, and the, the edges of where I wanted to just be an artist and create from that place versus where I needed help with the sales and marketing, not getting going as, as, as much as I wanted it to. And so that was kind of the, we couldn't sustain it at our current rate because we weren't growing it fast enough on the, on the sales and marketing side. And so it was like, that was the, that was the, yeah. So, did you, what was it that was pulling you through? Because I mean, at any moment, you could have quit and not had this opportunity to speak at Comic Con and be known to, to bridge these two worlds together. So, what was it that pulled you? Yeah. I mean, mission, the mission is a good word for it, you know, just being in that mission. But I, I think to me, it comes down to the fun. Like, we were following something that, that I think was, was beyond logic as far as I'm concerned. And I consider, I consider myself a, not run of the mill, kind of, normal human being in that regard. You know, I, I think that, that, that quote of the line between genius and insanity. I, I kind of thrive in that on both ends of the spectrum of like, mistakes and, and, and crazy kind of, visionary thinking that's outside the box. I'm not conventional by any stretch of the means. So, so the, the, the energy that we were following of, of excitement, of fun and play, are, are key to how I operate, um, business in general and how I help, visionaries become bigger visionaries by getting out of the survival mindset and into passion. Like, full on passion that is invincible to the fear of risk. What are some of the ways that you help consult and coach people through, through that? Um, it's, imagination technology is kind of counterintuitive. So it's a different relationship with the unknown of that brings people to the edge of, of the passion, the, the, the edge of their evolution, uh, or the cutting edge really. So, uh, what's the best way that I can express this? I don't want to be, I don't want it to be too concepty. Like, like, uh, Is there like a good metaphor to use or get on in there? Right. Right. Because, because I, I look at it as big picture business. That's, that's really what I deem it as because as an operating system upgrade for the brain to get out of survival over the fittest and into a different type of fuel for your life and business. A higher octane fuel as, as, or that's the metaphor here. It's the type of fuel that you're using as a business owner, as an entrepreneur, as a visionary. It literally is, is taking time, linear time that you think you need for the feeling of security, the feeling of safety. When you start to take that away and get more into the, the volatility of your passion, that's where the excitement is. That's, that's where things get become alive. Uh, because you're taking away the things that keep it contained. And I hope that makes sense. I hope it lends because when we talk about higher performance and faster productivity, it's, it's all in the throughput of, of the vision. So when you're in a smaller pond, AKA like, mirror survival of the business, the game isn't as big as you can actually play versus not a exact, you're in the business instead of on top of it. Whereas Elon Musk, uh, or name, name, any visionary really. It's mission and vision is so wide. It's, it's so big. I mean, Elon, multi-planetary, like, or, you know, Tesla, like, helping the world's, uh, transition to sustainable energy, like, it's vast. It's vast. It's, it's, yeah. Overwhelming when you're processing it from survival. Yeah. Exactly. Because the overwhelming has to come down into your brain, and it gets constricted by the survival of the fittest operating system. It's like Windows 95 running through. But when I help my clients upgrade the operating system to quantum computing, to imagination technology, all of a sudden now those overwhelming visions have a way of, of not getting caught in the pipeline, not getting caught in the bandwidth you have more bandwidth. And now we don't feel overwhelmed. You feel, uh, oh, that's the vision. Oh, wow. Like, that's a bigger, bigger F and game. It looks good up here. This view is nice. Yeah. And then, oh my god, then things really come alive because then you stop playing small. And, and, and now, boom, now you're asking for bigger things. Now you have bigger ideas. Now, you're like really like in your, in your zone of genius of you as a visionary. And that, that's really where things take off. So I'm thinking, I mean, a lot of our business owners listening, um, small business to medium to unit large size business owners, um, are listening. And I'm sure they're asking themselves are like, I know, I'm, it's in there. But like, I have to do the admin stuff. I've got finances. Oh my god, I've got a team like I, like I'm genius, but I got other crap on top of that. So what do you tell people who are like, they have to do that, you know, as they're scaling up their business, they've got to tip into that point where they can have more brain space. But when they're in the muck, how do they balance that where they can have that visionary ability and put it on top of everything that they have to do day to day? Yes. Oh, yes. Yes. Well, first I would say we need to have a superpower brainstorm because the, ooh, I love this question. If you look at it, the metaphor of processing power, right? So the same way if you were to use an old-ass computer and try to play 4K video on, on an old computer, it would chug, right? It would break it. But now with the new Apple hotness, it plays it like butter, right? Because it processes more efficiently. So the new game that I point them to, because what you just laid out there is completely accurate from the survival operating system. The data has to be ones and zeros. And it has to process very linearly. And so you're only looking at, okay, here's this muck of everything I don't want to do that's taking up all my bandwidth. And, and that's how you process the day in this very linear fashion. And, and you're only seeing the physical examples of this and you're processing it mentally in the same fashion. And, it's very, it's, and that's what causes the, the dense mud of the, of that feeling, right? But the moment you, the moment you slow down, this is, this is the counter intuitive part. Because the old way of thinking is, no, I got to speed up. I need to go faster so that I can get more efficient. More efficient, right? That's not efficiency. It's actually slowing down. So when you slow down, all of a sudden now your whole nervous system and your brain can process information much faster. So let's say, oh, the admin, the admin thing, right? Instead of that being a thought that makes a low frequency energy. So it like, you have the thought and all of a sudden you're like, oh, right, you feel the weight of that. What if you process that faster? Admin, and it goes, it just processes. Now there's more space. Because you slow, slow down, you're not taking on the burden in the moment that you're processing it. And it, it literally upgrades the efficiency of the way that you process the information. And is that like redefining like how you have a relationship with that, the administrative duties like, okay, I won't be mad when I have to do my taxes. But like, this is a step to get me to here. Like do you have to like, with the example you just shared, do you have to redefine your relationship or when you say like to process it faster? What does that mean? It gets you into the place where you are in the vision. You are clear what you're actually asking for. What you actually need. Need, want, desire, it kind of blends here because if that's not fun for you, then what are you really asking for? I want someone else to do it for me. And that maybe you don't have the budget or you think the limitations say, no, I have to be a lone wolf. I have to do it myself for, no, I can't hire someone because whatever the limitation is, that's over here. That's with the old survival. But in the visionary space, in the clarity of, wait, no, hold on, slow down. Oh, it's just because I don't want to do it. That's why it's not fun. A, B, okay, if I don't want to do it, who would be exciting? Who would actually be excited to do this for me? And then it opens up the possibilities instead of being stuck in what you think it is, how you think it has to be, what it's supposed to be for you as an early business owner. You're not allowed to go that, you're not, whatever the limitation is, you go into the visionary space of what you're actually asking for, what's fun for you is, oh, I'd rather have an admin account and do this for me. And then it's just in the vision. And then I'm telling you the magic here, and I'll use that word because it is, and it isn't, it is. I know it's a dangerous word to use in the business realm, but I'm gonna use it anyway. Yeah, because it is, it's magic, but it's intelligence. It's intelligence. It's intelligence. It's a visionary in their full intelligence, asking and then receiving it. It's, okay, I might not be able to afford it, but how else could it happen? I don't need to make it happen. I just need to be open for the ideas to drop in the people, the help, because you've opened up the, you've invited it instead of being closed off to it has to be this structured way. And I have to follow these rules and these linear restrictions about how business has been done, and thus this logical lay way of doing it now, I have to follow. You're stepping more into a visionary as, okay, I need this person right now. It makes me think a lot about, I don't know if it's a new way or a new trend, or it's just being more like publicly shared and celebrated and practiced, but people are open with things that not through, or like their practice with the spiritual world, or how they meditate or how they journal, and people are sharing that. And it sounds like to me, like some of those somewhat self-care principles are how I understand it being applied with business, and like speaking in the affirmative and like being in the sweet spot and slowing down, it's like, wait, I hear that at home or like in my own brain, but I guess I haven't thought about applying it at the depth and level, like your business exists on, to really pull it and live it fully in your business. And I can see how that would be very transformative. Exactly. I don't like, I don't even want to use the word personal development, because there's a lot of stigma, some inefficiencies with the way that I look at personal development as it exists as a sector right now. But if I were to create the invitation here of what you're pointing at, is a business owner, an entrepreneur, everything that you just mentioned, is in the invitation of self-discovery, of self-awareness, instead of a self-conscious rigidity, like a concreteness, that's what makes things not fun. But the self-discovery that we're pointing at here is just the the awareness that the business is an extension of your own energy. It's the extension of your creativity, your passion, like we talked about. So when you turn the camera in a sense inward to the inner game, oh man, nothing is going to solve problems and provide next level solutions to every challenge that you're facing faster than when you turn inward for the actual root cause of the things that are challenging you. I love that. I'm going to ask you a question that's very ironic in nature, but after everything you've said, in a quick two-minute share, what would you recommend for people to be more productive in their week? And I recognize you said to slow down, so it's ironic that I'm making you go really fast in the sense of yeah. So well the first counter intuitive thing that I would say, stay in the the relativity of a week if it excites you, but my counter idea is get out of the week, get out of the mindset of time. The week is future based. And yes, if you want, if you in the visionary, you know, long-term thinking, 10 years, whatever, there's a time and a space to play there, but what I would say is it's about how can you get closer to the present moment than being in the future? In that way that you want to be if it's more financially successful or to hire another employee to kind of like be that now is what you're saying? Yes, the letting go of living in the future and actually feeling what you want to feel right now and facing what is keeping you from that because the moment that you make that shift into lessening the amount of time and I show people how to do this with imagination technology because time like I said with Einstein, I'm standing on his shoulders of time relativity. I teach people a different relationship with time itself so that instead of living for the future, you're more in the excitement of your presence right now and that flip that it explodes what you can actually do when you how productive you can be when you're in that flow. I love that. Jeremy, I have one last question for you and it's painful because I have to just pick one, but I want to ask what would you leave our listeners with with a bit of encouragement or kind of a task as they set forth for 2021? What can you let go that isn't exciting you anymore? What are you doing because you're supposed to be doing it instead of because you actually want to do it? How can you look at your business as full passion instead of just for survival? What is the vision for your life, for your business, for your lifestyle, for your reality? What is the vision that completely lights you up and turns you on that is beyond what you can even imagine? What is unimaginable when you get out of the way of thinking that you have to do the things that really are not fun for you? How can you lessen the weight you're carrying? I love that. Well, thank you for leaving that charge with our audience. It's very, I mean, even this conversation, it's like it's making me want to ask more questions and it's bringing out a lot of excitement and encouragement and remembering that like anything is possible. So why don't you try that? Why don't you head in that direction a little bit more often and a good reminder in those days, that thing like when it gets sticky or challenging, there's another side of the coin. So it's kind of perspective too and that's something even within our local think tank chapters, we try to help be that extra eye for other people. It's like, no, wait a minute this way, try this way. Exactly. How can people get in touch with you or stay in touch with you? Tell us all the ways. Yes, I am Jeremy A. Lastman on most, if not all, social media sites got a YouTube page just type in Jeremy Lastman, Jeremy Lastman.com. My first name on my last name.com is my website. And then I would invite people to go check out the conscious leadership network. That's where I am kind of most presence right now. It's go to consciousleadership.life for more information on that. Conscious leadership network. That's where they can try out a demo of imagination technology, see the magic experience the magic, apply the magic and they can find me most there on the conscious leadership network. All right, that's awesome. Well, thank you so much for your time today. It's been awesome to tap into your stories and hopefully we can all tap into ourselves a little bit more with all of this encouragement direction. So thank you so much for being on the Locot Shirts with me. Thank you very much for having me. Really appreciate it. Thank you for listening to today's episode of the Locot Experience Podcast. 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