Dec. 27, 2025

EXPERIENCE 250 | Season 5 Recap with Ben Holtz & Ava Munos

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Season 5

In this episode of the Loco Experience Podcast, we welcome Ben Holtz and Ava Munos to discuss their journeys and roles within the Loco Experience team. Ava, the outgoing podcast producer, reflects on her time at Loco and her future plans in sales, while Ben shares insights into his varied career and his growth in the Director of Growth and Operations role. We recap the season, highlighting key podcast episodes, memorable moments, and impactful guests. 

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Welcome back to the Loco Experience Podcast.

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My guests today are Ben Holtz and Ava MOUs.

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Ava is the producer, outgoing producer of the Loco Experience.

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Sadly, um, today is her, one of her last shifts

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close to it,

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depending on how much further training Sadie needs.

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We'll see.

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And Ben has been on the team as the Director of Growth and Operations since June.

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Yeah.

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mid-June, something like that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Welcome Ben.

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So just for our listeners' sake, so you're not wondering what we are doing here, this is gonna be our, our season recap episode where we kind of look back over those conversations.

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Ben wasn't here for half of them, but he is met a lot of those guests in the meantime.

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Um, and we'll also kind of feature Ben's life journey and what led him to become part of the team here at local Think Tank.

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Yeah.

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So if those things are interesting to you, tune in.

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If they're not, then uh, send it to somebody you think they might be interested.

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This one episode, we'd hate to miss a download.

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So let's start with you Ben.

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Um, you're six months in almost Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Or five months in, I don't know.

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That's exciting.

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Um, how is Loco think tank different than what you expected?

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Different than expected?

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I guess both from a inside and maybe outside.

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I is marketing and sales.

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Uh, what's this community like?

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Knows.

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It's funny.

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So I met Kurt on LinkedIn.

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Uh, I was kind of between a couple of startup projects of my own and had a few hours to spare and Kurt said, Hey, I'm looking for this kind of person.

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And it was one of the most broad job descriptions I've ever seen.

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I'm looking for a really smart jack of all trade.

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Yeah.

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That can do everything with a, uh, with a high, uh, energy level.

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And, uh, and that's me.

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And I went, Hey look, this is the culmination of, uh, a lot of my experience.

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And, uh, then I started and it was like, can you print.

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Mailing address labels, newsletter address.

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Labels.

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Yeah.

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Website updates.

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And cut.

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No, it's, it's automation.

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My favorite sales calls.

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Marketing.

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My favorite thing that you said to me was a couple months ago, it was, you're highly qualified for the job I hired you for and not at all qualified for a lot of the jobs I need you to do because it took me like three hours to figure out the printer.

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Yeah.

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The printers.

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So it's been, no, it's been awesome.

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Uh, great to be around Kurt and the team and meet so many great local people, um, around Fort Collins and Northern Colorado.

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And, um, man, it's been, it's been fun.

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And we've had silly days out at the golf course playing milky and Yeah.

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Um, long, hard days doing admin at the office.

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So I

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think you've still only beaten me once in ping pong

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just once and yeah, it, it close a lot of times.

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Really good.

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Really?

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I, I probably,

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and you'll never live it down.

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I'll

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let you win at least one time in 2026.

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He told me that, uh, as well.

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Uh, when mice wrestle, what was this?

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Rats.

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Rat rats.

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When they wrestle or play that the smaller rat has to win at least sometimes or else they stop playing it all.

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Correct?

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Yeah.

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Are you, are you approaching that space yet?

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Uh, no.

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Kurt just called me a small rat.

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That's really what we're,

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what I gathered for last.

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Well, that would make me a big rat.

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Yeah, big rat.

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That's rats.

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I have a t-shirt actually that says I'm a big rat.

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Do you?

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No.

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Oh, that would be a lie.

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I'll make you that shirt.

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So,

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um.

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Ava, what have you noticed?

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Uh, like you, we were in a ladies only office and then all of a sudden you were out competing pee.

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All my Miss you.

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Um, I had lunch with

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Alma today.

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Yeah.

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How's she doing?

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She's good.

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We can talk about later.

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Yeah.

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Um, well when I, you know, I thought about this today when I first applied to Loco I was just finishing my sophomore year and I'm now almost finishing my senior year.

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Yeah.

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So I feel like Loco has, yeah.

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Like I made it through.

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Um, I feel like Loco has shaped a lot of like, I dunno, I feel like of all jobs I've learned the most from this job because when you join Loco you kind of wear a bunch of different hats whether you want to or not.

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Um, and I came in originally for marketing and I thought marketing was, is is my current major.

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Um, and I, it quickly showed me I never wanted to do marketing.

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Um, it was, I mean, a huge learning curve, but also like you put in a 19-year-old in to market for, you know, local business, sophisticated business and we, you know, it just hit a, hit a, a block there.

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It was a language barrier.

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Yeah.

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A little bit, but, well,

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but you used things like chat and stuff to get better at business communications and whatnot.

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Yeah, that's what

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I learned the most was how to like, use my resources and like.

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And also how to like, just not constantly ask for help and just to kind of figure it out.

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Which, I mean, I still use a lot of those skills today and it got me into podcasting because, you know, Alma left that role and, and I was there to fill it.

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And I've loved the job so much.

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I've also met incredible people from this job.

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Um, that's like my biggest, I feel like take away from Locos the amount of networking and the amount of connections you make and like friendships you make.

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And also sitting in on the podcast, I mean, I'm sitting in two, maybe three, mostly like one to two podcasts a week of, you know, you're just listening to all these crazy people's stories.

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And it might be boring and mundane, but there's not ever a time that you don't walk away from it learning something.

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'cause you're listening to the entire thing out there.

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Say to, you're gonna learn so much from this job.

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But yeah, I feel like Locos taught me a lot.

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Yeah.

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I believe that.

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And it's interesting to reflect on your career path.

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Like in college, what to do is pretty straightforward.

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Yeah.

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You know, here's the project, here's the class, here's the textbook, the chapters and stuff.

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Get this

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great pass.

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Take this class.

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Yeah.

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And in your prior work you were, you know, coffee houses and Ritz Carlton mm-hmm.

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And stuff.

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Yeah.

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So, but even there, the job is pretty well defined.

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It's like totally like, here's some rich people.

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Yeah.

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Kiss their asses.

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Yeah.

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Get'em their food on time.

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Every job I've had in like, throughout your education, it's very scripted and you have a play by play of what you're gonna do.

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And loca was the first thing I've ever done where I didn't have that.

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And I mean, you learn when you struggle, the struggle strengthens.

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And that I did,

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there is no script when it's real stories, real people.

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Yeah.

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And Ben, you've kind of been in a lot of different.

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Like big corporate, smaller self-employed for a couple years really in various van building and consulting.

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Oh yeah.

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And whatever else.

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How, but not probably very much in this kind of small enterprise.

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Right?

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Like it's a little bit different kind of critter to have that 2, 3, 4 person team where there's Yeah.

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So many things to do.

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Yeah.

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I was trying to actually think, uh, a couple weeks ago about what's the closest thing I've done to at least the product selling this product.

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Yeah.

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Uh, in terms of memberships and community and things like that.

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And the closest thing I think I did, I, uh, worked at Glazer Clinics.

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Okay.

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Um, which is a coaching clinic, a sports coaching clinic company.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Um, they're headquarters in Colorado Springs.

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Okay.

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Uh, that was 10 years ago now.

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All right.

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Alright.

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But, uh, yeah, that was selling like programs to coaches and teams and hosting events and conferences.

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Okay.

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But even similar.

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Still, still a little more targeted though.

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Yeah.

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That's a lot more niche

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business to consumer, more so.

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And you get very

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specific language and very specific value props.

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And this is real people dealing with.

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The challenges of entrepreneurial life and no two stories are the same.

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That is true.

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And so how do you speak to an audience that is literally different in every way?

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That's,

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uh, people ask me sometimes How do you keep getting new guests for the loco experience?

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And I'm like, dude, there's like thousands of business founders and leaders, so many out there and they all have a different story and a d different journey and most of'em are pretty inspiring.

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Yeah,

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absolutely.

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Um, and who doesn't wanna talk about themselves for two hours?

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Yeah,

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yeah.

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Not me.

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And spread the word.

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I mean, that's why I do this job is because I don't really want to talk about myself for two hours, although, uh, uh, there's some pressure on me to get on more local podcasts.

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Although you often do that.

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I should.

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Yeah,

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you definitely should.

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It's been a

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while.

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I got on a bunch of them early on.

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And

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you need to be in like the interviewee spot.

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Well, I'm gonna be in a few weeks.

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Uh, one of our guests from early last year, Nate Hines.

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Oh yeah.

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Or late last, late the year before has asked to come on again, but only on the condition that he can be the interviewer this time.

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Awesome.

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And he is like a crazy philosopher guy.

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Yeah.

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So I'm really looking forward to that experience as well.

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Very insightful.

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So, um, Ben, what were you doing?

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Uh, just before.

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What was I doing just before

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he was like, let me try to remember.

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Um, most recently and still, uh, actively, uh, I'm co-founding a startup that does business intelligence for venture capital and startups.

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Yep.

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Um, but really like the thing that I've done most consistently over the last five years, uh, was the van building business, um, that's paid the bills and that's been nuts.

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So, uh, 2019, uh, I was a single guy living in northwest Arkansas, working at Walmart, and dissatisfied

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with my job.

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Uh, I was also seeing the writing on the wall that it wasn't gonna be a permanent place for me.

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Okay.

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Um, both that I wanted to move away Oh.

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Uh, geo wise and, uh, I didn't feel like a fit on my team.

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Uh, the lateral movement that I had, I was in a new role, so I didn't have a lot of upward mobility.

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Um, and so I bought a van thinking maybe I'll start consulting and I'll travel and then like a, a secondhand van?

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Uh, yeah.

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A dealership down the road.

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Okay.

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Bought, uh, I guess had somebody trade one in and didn't know what it was like.

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The salesman literally was like, I have no idea what this is worth.

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It's 14 grand.

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Oh.

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Um, which was, and you're like, that's worth 25 grand.

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Oh, absolutely.

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It was, it was.

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Rudimentary Rudimentarily built and had, you know, some medium eyes on it anyway.

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Out.

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And what was this as a sprinter out?

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This was a ProMaster Ram ProMaster Dodge.

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Yep.

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Dodge Ram ProMaster.

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But for the money, it was awesome.

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Yeah.

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I built the rest out in my, uh, in the front parking lot in front of my apartment.

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Oh really?

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Um, and got multiple notices from the apartment, like, we're gonna evict you.

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And I was like, it doesn't appear that this thing works.

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Well, I am, uh, building a new home, so evict me all you want'cause I'm leaving.

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Yeah.

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Goodbye.

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And um, so I moved into that.

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So you're like working this salary job and working nights and weekends to uh Oh yeah.

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To Oh yeah.

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Finish the band so you can tell them to Oh yeah.

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Fly a kite.

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My buddy, uh, my buddy Tad, uh, shut out Tad.

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Um, and I set something on fire, like in the apartment courtyard.

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Um, we hooked up the solar panel.

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I was learning everything.

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Yeah, I was, I hooked up the solar panel on the wrong, uh, configuration.

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Sent a bunch of pink smoke into the apartment.

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It, regardless I learned a lot, but I was dating my now wife at the time.

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Um, and she was living in California, so backed up the van moved out there.

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Oh, like long distance dating kind, long distance dating.

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Um, oh, I didn't know that.

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Like, did it start

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with a bunch of phone calls and stuff, or did you get together pretty regularly even?

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No, no.

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I mean, it started with phone calls and FaceTimes.

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Yeah, we had a history.

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Um, and so, uh, there was a lot of familiarity there.

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It was very, very, like, um, so who broke

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up with who, who calculated time before?

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Because you guys were dating's dated in college.

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A real, that's a real question.

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Let's dig it up.

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I mean, it matters for the, it matters.

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It matters.

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Does it matter?

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Uh, yeah.

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No, it doesn't.

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I, I don't know if it was really this or that.

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It was, uh, it was really hot and cold.

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Ki we were in college the first time.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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Um, and so, so you don't keep score about that?

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We don't.

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We don't.

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Alright.

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We don't, we keep score about plenty of other things.

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Tell whatever.

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No, she's better than me, that's for sure.

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Um, but yeah, I moved out to California to be with her.

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Um, and,

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and, and what were you doing for work?

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I was still at, uh, the, I was still at Walmart.

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Okay.

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Um, I was sitting as Unilever at Walmart buying all their media.

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Okay.

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Um, and told my boss, Hey, I'm gonna move.

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And he basically said, I can buy you a little time, zoom into calls and we'll see if we can get it approved through HR for you to be remote.

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COVID hadn't dropped yet.

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No, this was January of 2020.

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Okay.

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Oh, and so, uh, so you had a couple months that went on for like a month and then HR was like, you can't be remote, you're fired.

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And then like a week later everyone was remote.

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Right.

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And I was still not rehired.

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Oh, damn.

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Uh, so I sold the van because I needed the cash Right.

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And made money.

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And then the dealership down the road in California, it was like, everything's burning down.

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It's COVID.

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So all the vans are cheap.

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Right.

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Hell, because at the beginning everybody panicked and sold off.

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All sorts of stuff.

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Yep, yep.

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Home

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supply.

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Yeah.

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They had a

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floor plan attached to it.

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Yeah.

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I

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mean, if you think about, uh, by the end of the pandemic kind of season,

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oh yeah.

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You should have just bought a bunch of bricks and donkey

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home building, home building supplies four to five x in terms of price, uh, in a lot of categories, obviously, but like, vans the same.

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And so, but at the beginning it was like fire sale.

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Yeah.

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And so I should've bought five vans in March.

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Oh, I should have of 2020.

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Um, well, I, I worked, I worked night and day to start flipping vans.

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Oh, really?

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So you were buying'em, fixing'em, and you still I was pulling 14 to 16 hour days for months on end to build a van.

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Yeah.

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And then we would take a month off and go for a road trip, and then we'd come home and sell it and I'd do it again.

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Oh.

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So I built 15 vans.

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So

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you kind, you could kind of sort it out besides Yeah.

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15.

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15.

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So have you've been doing that for five years?

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I stopped January of 24.

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But I thought you just built, bought a van.

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No, no.

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He sold his van.

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This what did you just, you just bought?

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So this, oh,

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I just bought an old Land Cruiser.

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I'm gonna fix up.

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But that's like a, that's a, just a small little nothing.

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I'm not gonna money off of that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Just a fun project.

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Um, but yeah, that was, that was incredible.

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So built most of your jobs.

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That's crazy for those years.

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Did that for a couple years full time.

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Um, and had jobs in between and kind of did that as a moonlight project.

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Yeah.

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It was great.

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It was great money.

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What, what was Alyssa doing?

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Uh, Alyssa's been in graphic design, you know, and so she was with youth with a mission, uh, missions organization for years and years.

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Yeah.

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Um, left, uh, around 2020 season and she helped me on the van stuff.

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Okay.

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So there's some funny pictures of us cutting out windows and she's trying to

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figure out how to use a MIT design

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for Oh yeah.

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She's, she's figured it all out.

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She's awesome.

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Um, and, uh, no, but she went back into graphic design kind of later that year.

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Gotcha.

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Um, and has been doing it since.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And did you continue to do marketing consulting and different things Absolutely.

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During this That was your Yeah, I did day jobs of sorts or whatever, gotta go have a meeting or this meeting and do some work.

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I've

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always been like a typically, um, and some of this has changed, but, um, typically I'm a, you know, early morning work, um, and a late evening manual work or house remodel or van project or whatever.

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Yeah.

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And dig it, um, or work out.

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Um, and so I will, I would wake up, you know, early work, six to two, six to three, and then roll off, start working on the van and go working on the van.

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Yeah.

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Interesting.

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Did that for a couple years.

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And then how did you find yourself in Fort Collins?

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We had wanted to move here.

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Why here?

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Three years.

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I came, I came to visit, uh, my buddy Thomas, who lived in Fort Collins.

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He and I had a, a old, um, kind of just shared history, uh, living in Fayetteville, Arkansas.

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And, uh, he had moved out here and I came, it happened to be toured a fat weekend.

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And it, I mean, it's just a party.

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You're like, any town

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that has this as a pool party, oh my God, I'm a huge, I might wanna be part of it.

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Huge.

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That's like my, uh, that's my sport.

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Um, and, and it's my hobby.

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I love working on bikes as well.

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And so a bunch of weirdos drinking beer riding bikes around town all day long, dressed up.

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I was, I was in love.

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So that was probably 2017.

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Okay.

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Um, maybe it was 2018 and I went, I'm moving here.

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And it

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just never worked.

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I wonder, I bet there's more than a dozen people in town that came here for a tour de fat weekend and were like, I'm gonna move

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there.

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I'm staying here.

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It's a great weekend.

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Come.

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Well, and then two years later, Alyssa did the, or three years later, Alyssa did the same one.

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I've had a number of friends came, like my, my brother and

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Yeah,

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his wife and like four of their friends came out for Tour to Fat weekend.

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One time my sister's been out for Tour to Fat Weekend, you know,'cause it's a good time of the year to travel anyway.

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Uh, and like, you're not gonna see nothing like that.

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Oh yeah.

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I will not forget.

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Like, um, when Alyssa, my wife and I came to visit again in 21, we were standing on the corner of, um, mountain, uh, and Shields where Beavers is Okay.

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Watching, watching the parade go by.

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And she turned to me and said.

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I could move here.

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And I was like, yes.

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Like

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I knew it.

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I knew this attorney.

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She hadn't been before.

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Uh, she had not been.

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So it was So you used that as your sales pitch as well?

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Oh, I planned that trip to be there for that

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on that corner and worked.

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I had the ring in my pocket.

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Oh, are we already married?

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Oh, we were you married pretty quickly.

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That was a rapid romance.

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Yeah.

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No, she, uh, yeah, she, uh, regrets that we have now sunk all our money into a remodel and we're there right off of this same corner where same, same corner.

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It's like, she dragged me here.

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She doesn't do

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that.

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I was gonna say, it doesn't feel like she regrets being

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here.

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No, we love it.

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She loves it too.

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Um, one of the things we're gonna do is, uh, do some season recap.

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So I'm gonna just weave it in a little bit because one of the things that, um, we started the season on was an interview with Rick Gardner, who has been our EOS implementer.

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Yeah.

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She out to Rick.

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Um, and, uh, you know, yeah.

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Shout out to Rick.

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And also, um, you've learned a lot about the entrepreneur's operating system and been fulfilling the integrator role for Loco The last, I mean, not right.

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I guess you were pretty much right for, well, no, your second day was Yeah, our June meeting.

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Yeah.

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So you didn't know much in that.

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It is crazy.

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One Ava was, Alma was still here running that meeting.

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I bet that was slightly

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overwhelming.

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And EOS is one of those things where the language.

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It exceeds the reach of the actual operating system.

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Totally.

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Where a lot of businesses you probably use language from EOS that you don't even know is from ES, right?

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Yeah.

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If you've got rocks for the quarter Yeah, totally.

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You're using EOS.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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If you're trying to catch traction with the new market, probably get some EOS stuff in there.

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Totally.

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So Rick, uh, was a favorite podcast from that first quarter.

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He was like a bull rider until he got hurt.

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He became a professional walleye fisherman.

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He like helped Lockheed Martin figure out why their rocket engines were setting up a harmonic vibrancy thing, even though he wasn't a mc trained engineer.

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He was fascinating guy.

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Wild.

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Yeah.

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Totally.

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And, uh, has really fallen in love with business and adds a lot to the, to the business community over here.

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Yeah.

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Um, so definitely a highlight one of the first quarter.

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And then another one that I remember that you have connected well with is, uh, Scott Kissel from Sky Corll Ranch.

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Scott's great.

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Scott's so great.

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What an energy.

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Oh, I had so many people that were like, you guys look like brothers in this picture.

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Oh, what a compliment to you think.

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Right.

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That's such a compliment to you.

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Well, yeah.

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cause he's like buff and like, good look at, he's such

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a nice guy.

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Oh yeah.

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You talked to Scott for a couple minutes and you feel like you've known him a lot.

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True.

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So true.

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So if people are listening up there, if you wanna hear the Sky Carere Ranch story, which is an amazing venue.

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We had our, our next level summit up there in August, and it's, it's great, you know, great for a group of 40 to 60.

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Yeah.

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People to both have a place to eat and a place to learn, and a place to walk around in the outdoors and see turkeys and bears.

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Oh man.

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Sidebar.

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But right close to where Highway 14 comes together with, with 2 87 on the way back from Steamboat, I saw a flock of perhaps 60 turkeys in one of those fields that are just off of Highway 14 on the way back from Steamboat.

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It was, I've never seen more than like 15 turkeys together ever.

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Yeah.

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I don't think I've ever even seen 15.

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So anyway, I've got some, it's a lot.

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I've got some dark clothes and my, uh, shotgun silence.

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So we're gonna go get Turkey dinner.

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Um, okay.

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Yeah, we'll do that next weekend.

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If you're down.

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Ben was telling you earlier, he doesn't always know what I'm pulling his leg or not, which, no, I find that very endearing.

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You're starting to figure it out faster.

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I I, I, I do know, but sometimes

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exact question.

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I know he's joking.

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I know when he joking.

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'cause he'll pause after because he's waiting for a reaction.

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That's how I know.

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And if he's not joking, he'll just carry on.

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Then you're kinda like, what?

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Whoa.

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Oh, he just, that crowd tonight without it

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being a joke.

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Dang.

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Oh.

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And like he

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for real just said that

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I, I'm.

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Proper pretty often.

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Proper is hilarious.

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You're proper

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occasionally

00:21:07.169 --> 00:21:07.979
when you wanna be

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true.

00:21:09.118 --> 00:21:09.419
Yes.

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But I don't think

00:21:09.459 --> 00:21:11.219
it's very often that you would need to be proper.

00:21:11.398 --> 00:21:19.019
You know, I think I, I'm a, I'm a free speech absolutist a little bit, and if you're not gonna like example Yeah.

00:21:19.229 --> 00:21:29.189
The things that you believe in, then I don't, I don't wanna be, I'm not insulting, I'm not, you know, I would never call a handicapped person a retard, but I would totally call you a retard if you were acted like a retard.

00:21:29.638 --> 00:21:31.138
That's a Michael Scott quote Kurt.

00:21:31.199 --> 00:21:31.949
Oh, sorry.

00:21:31.949 --> 00:21:32.489
For a reason.

00:21:33.163 --> 00:21:34.493
Well out on

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it.

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Yeah.

00:21:35.294 --> 00:21:38.278
I, I don't know these things, it's just kind like the traction stuff.

00:21:38.278 --> 00:21:39.413
It got filtered into my brain.

00:21:39.413 --> 00:21:42.298
It got in there, it got, and it got in there, but I don't know where it went from there.

00:21:42.304 --> 00:21:45.358
So, got in there, uh, we had the harpist to a king.

00:21:45.358 --> 00:21:45.449
Oh yeah.

00:21:45.898 --> 00:21:50.278
Uh, and I went to her concert when I was in Fort Collins, Meredith Ryle, uh, she

00:21:50.278 --> 00:21:52.558
was also paired with the Britain's Got Talent.

00:21:52.618 --> 00:21:53.098
Yeah.

00:21:53.098 --> 00:21:53.108
Winner.

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Uh, what was his name

00:21:54.358 --> 00:21:54.749
again?

00:21:54.749 --> 00:21:57.239
His name was Ja McDowell.

00:21:57.989 --> 00:21:58.618
Yes.

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And, uh, both very fun.

00:22:01.318 --> 00:22:10.288
Um, and one of our top listens of, of the first quarter, especially longtime member Phil Ula, current member Ann Baren

00:22:10.798 --> 00:22:11.308
And,

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and

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Hello Ann.

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And then Pete Gly, who is gotta be considered like a MVP.

00:22:19.318 --> 00:22:19.439
Yeah.

00:22:19.469 --> 00:22:21.028
Uh, for Loco this year.

00:22:21.058 --> 00:22:21.689
Yeah, yeah.

00:22:21.838 --> 00:22:22.348
Absolutely.

00:22:22.769 --> 00:22:25.318
Uh, quick background on Pete and it's a worthy episode.

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He's a two 11, excuse me.

00:22:27.538 --> 00:22:35.278
But Pete is our, um, came in as our original Thinkers facilitator, um, with the departure of that facilitator in December.

00:22:35.278 --> 00:22:43.019
He came in in January and kind of helped get it off of, uh, we had only four or five members left in the chapter when he came in and now they're at nine or 10 or 11.

00:22:43.108 --> 00:22:43.528
Totally.

00:22:43.769 --> 00:22:44.548
Yay Pete.

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And then the next level, uh, chapter.

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Mm-hmm.

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We had a change in June on that and he is grown that group from four to now.

00:22:52.469 --> 00:22:52.979
Seven too.

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Yeah.

00:22:53.159 --> 00:23:04.949
So it's been amazing to, to just see what you just never know, like kudos to Kim O'Neill'cause she pressed it in the role and, uh, you, she's actually one of the members now, but that's part of it.

00:23:04.949 --> 00:23:14.459
She was getting more and more things to do and buying beer distributorships and investing in this and that and kind of started to look more like a member than a facilitator.

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So.

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Sure.

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So, uh, so anyway, Pete had had a great episode there.

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He's definitely been an MVP.

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What a guy.

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Ginger Graham returned in February with her, her hubby, Jack,

00:23:25.618 --> 00:23:26.459
ginger, and Baker.

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Staple.

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Staple.

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That's Fort Collins.

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Is she one of your

00:23:29.068 --> 00:23:29.519
favorites?

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Probably.

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That's been through.

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Why do you say that?

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I don't know.

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Just as a power woman in the community, that's really good.

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Back.

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We've had many

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power women

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on That is true.

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That is true.

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But yeah, ginger and Jack were very interesting and I also had a friend that worked at Ginger and Baker, so it was interest.

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Did they like it?

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Yeah.

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Kind of.

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Sort of.

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Yeah.

00:23:46.169 --> 00:23:47.699
Well, you know, it's a retail job, right?

00:23:47.699 --> 00:23:48.509
Still food service.

00:23:48.538 --> 00:23:49.618
Yeah, exactly.

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And that's not easy.

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Yeah, yeah.

00:23:51.239 --> 00:23:53.578
No, they, and they can't pay you all the money because

00:23:53.578 --> 00:23:55.439
for the workers, for the owners even.

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I mean, it's Right.

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It's a hard industry.

00:23:57.058 --> 00:23:58.108
Yeah, totally.

00:23:58.919 --> 00:24:08.068
And, uh, yeah, that pretty much rounds out some of the highlights not to, uh, miss Zach George from Zach, George Landscaping future local think tank member.

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I hope.

00:24:08.939 --> 00:24:08.969
Ooh,

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I'm gonna keep calling him once a year at least.

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Alright, stay on that.

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He's our kind of people.

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Plus he's got an amazing beard.

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Oh yeah.

00:24:15.479 --> 00:24:16.108
Better than

00:24:16.108 --> 00:24:17.429
another compliment from you.

00:24:17.489 --> 00:24:17.878
Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I try not to

00:24:19.169 --> 00:24:19.528
a beard.

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Recognized beard.

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So a fresh college graduate.

00:24:23.844 --> 00:24:24.263
Whoops.

00:24:24.263 --> 00:24:24.743
I just started playing.

00:24:24.743 --> 00:24:27.463
You just start playing your own podcast too, yourself, while you're on the podcast.

00:24:27.703 --> 00:24:28.183
I was like, oh God.

00:24:28.183 --> 00:24:28.824
What's Sadie do?

00:24:29.878 --> 00:24:30.628
No, that was me.

00:24:30.628 --> 00:24:30.959
Sorry.

00:24:30.959 --> 00:24:31.378
Sadie.

00:24:31.439 --> 00:24:32.429
You'll have to edit that out.

00:24:32.578 --> 00:24:33.868
No, I think that could stay there.

00:24:33.868 --> 00:24:34.558
That'll be fine.

00:24:34.558 --> 00:24:34.888
Yeah.

00:24:34.919 --> 00:24:35.009
It's

00:24:35.009 --> 00:24:35.788
just really meta.

00:24:36.298 --> 00:24:37.019
It's super meta.

00:24:37.588 --> 00:24:41.759
Uh, yeah, it's like I, I have a, I have a sweatshirt that's a bear wearing a sweater.

00:24:42.269 --> 00:24:44.788
And then on the bear sweater is another bear wearing a sweater.

00:24:44.788 --> 00:24:45.719
And you are the bear.

00:24:45.749 --> 00:24:47.038
I'm the bear wearing the sweater.

00:24:47.038 --> 00:24:48.659
Sweater of the bear wearing the sweater.

00:24:48.659 --> 00:24:48.959
Yeah.

00:24:49.108 --> 00:24:49.259
Yeah.

00:24:49.259 --> 00:24:49.558
That,

00:24:49.798 --> 00:24:50.878
uh, it's like a Russian doll.

00:24:51.179 --> 00:24:57.459
What is the, um, series of shirts of Macaulay kin wearing the shirt of, oh, I'll find it for you later.

00:24:57.459 --> 00:24:57.703
Okay.

00:24:57.703 --> 00:24:58.169
That's fine.

00:24:58.169 --> 00:24:58.824
That sounds good.

00:24:58.824 --> 00:24:59.064
Yeah.

00:24:59.068 --> 00:24:59.219
Yeah.

00:24:59.459 --> 00:25:07.523
So you, uh, also sport a beard, but I do, uh, you've started relatively recently sporting the, the bald head, the Too ball.

00:25:07.523 --> 00:25:07.534
Yep.

00:25:07.979 --> 00:25:08.189
No.

00:25:08.189 --> 00:25:08.909
Started early.

00:25:08.999 --> 00:25:09.358
How's that

00:25:09.358 --> 00:25:09.598
been?

00:25:09.644 --> 00:25:11.368
What you

00:25:11.374 --> 00:25:12.134
recently became bald

00:25:12.463 --> 00:25:13.124
this year,

00:25:13.548 --> 00:25:14.608
but I met you bald.

00:25:14.683 --> 00:25:15.288
Yeah, you met me bald.

00:25:15.294 --> 00:25:15.463
Okay.

00:25:15.463 --> 00:25:16.034
I was like,

00:25:16.574 --> 00:25:17.294
you met me bald.

00:25:17.384 --> 00:25:19.663
Um, no, this, this was an evolution

00:25:19.844 --> 00:25:23.114
and like you're basically eight months in or something to that behavior.

00:25:23.144 --> 00:25:24.013
Yeah, it's annoying.

00:25:24.193 --> 00:25:25.903
Oh, 12, 12 months in.

00:25:25.933 --> 00:25:31.094
Okay, so last year, January or so, it was Christmas Eve last year about to go to church with my family for Christmas Eve.

00:25:31.094 --> 00:25:31.183
And

00:25:31.183 --> 00:25:31.903
you shaved your head

00:25:31.903 --> 00:25:32.534
and No.

00:25:32.594 --> 00:25:33.013
No.

00:25:33.013 --> 00:25:33.044
Oh.

00:25:33.104 --> 00:25:39.913
Um, but I have told my wife for years if my hair gets thin to the point where it's time, tell me it's time.

00:25:40.453 --> 00:25:41.233
And she agreed

00:25:41.324 --> 00:25:42.344
on Christmas Eve, she said it.

00:25:42.584 --> 00:25:43.808
No, I, well, I mean, yes.

00:25:44.098 --> 00:25:44.648
Merry Christmas.

00:25:44.834 --> 00:25:45.584
I did kind of,

00:25:45.584 --> 00:25:48.163
I was in the mirror after my shower comb my hair.

00:25:48.163 --> 00:25:49.009
I'm like, oh, this

00:25:49.009 --> 00:25:49.769
is not right.

00:25:50.288 --> 00:25:50.298
Oh,

00:25:50.413 --> 00:25:50.773
damn.

00:25:50.773 --> 00:25:50.804
I

00:25:50.804 --> 00:25:51.403
said, babe, is

00:25:51.403 --> 00:25:51.763
this

00:25:51.854 --> 00:25:52.634
is it time?

00:25:52.634 --> 00:25:53.384
And she said.

00:25:53.384 --> 00:25:55.423
Unfortunately it's time.

00:25:55.544 --> 00:25:56.173
It's time.

00:25:56.624 --> 00:25:57.824
So we've ever seen pictures.

00:25:57.824 --> 00:25:58.358
Think it was

00:25:58.358 --> 00:25:59.653
January 2nd or third.

00:25:59.653 --> 00:25:59.894
Yeah.

00:26:00.044 --> 00:26:00.669
Shaved it all

00:26:00.669 --> 00:26:00.788
off.

00:26:00.868 --> 00:26:00.989
I

00:26:00.989 --> 00:26:01.669
can't even imagine it.

00:26:02.114 --> 00:26:06.554
And it's more of a pain in the butt than you'd imagine, or I've imagined way more.

00:26:06.614 --> 00:26:09.314
I've been jealous of bald heads in the past, to be honest.

00:26:09.314 --> 00:26:09.703
I don't hate the

00:26:09.703 --> 00:26:10.933
look like, I feel fine.

00:26:10.963 --> 00:26:11.564
Yeah, you look sharp.

00:26:11.864 --> 00:26:12.193
Yeah.

00:26:12.284 --> 00:26:22.604
And I'm grateful to have a very full beard that I can still rock some kind of hair into, but uh, it is way more work to shave your head basically daily.

00:26:22.604 --> 00:26:23.203
Do you go electric?

00:26:23.324 --> 00:26:24.673
I was gonna say, do you hit like a razor?

00:26:24.763 --> 00:26:27.614
Oh, I've got like a big palm thing that goes all the way.

00:26:27.614 --> 00:26:31.483
It just still takes, it's like a car buffer thing and I'm good at multitasking.

00:26:31.483 --> 00:26:33.884
I do that and brush my teeth or I'll do that, whatever.

00:26:33.884 --> 00:26:35.473
But it's still like, it's a

00:26:35.473 --> 00:26:36.253
process.

00:26:36.284 --> 00:26:36.673
Yeah.

00:26:36.673 --> 00:26:38.534
So I, so it's more like woman hair.

00:26:38.594 --> 00:26:40.213
If I get, like it requires attention.

00:26:40.213 --> 00:26:40.634
The money.

00:26:40.693 --> 00:26:40.844
Yeah.

00:26:40.844 --> 00:26:40.993
If

00:26:40.993 --> 00:26:45.223
I can really become rich, I will go get plugs for the sake of the ease.

00:26:45.433 --> 00:26:49.334
What hair plugs go, go take the hair plane to Turkey, you know.

00:26:50.443 --> 00:26:50.773
Oh, like

00:26:50.773 --> 00:26:51.584
the hair implants.

00:26:51.644 --> 00:26:52.513
Oh yeah, sure.

00:26:53.114 --> 00:26:54.284
I didn't really know that was a thing.

00:26:54.284 --> 00:26:54.493
I might

00:26:54.493 --> 00:26:56.923
still stay bald, but then at least I have the option

00:26:56.923 --> 00:26:57.013
would.

00:26:57.013 --> 00:26:57.794
That's the, yeah.

00:26:58.394 --> 00:26:59.294
You know, then I have the option,

00:26:59.953 --> 00:27:00.943
I say rock the bald.

00:27:01.124 --> 00:27:06.403
I would say like if you could, maybe you should just go to like scream and peach and wax that ship.

00:27:06.854 --> 00:27:09.074
Regularly and then it can like, shut

00:27:09.074 --> 00:27:09.134
up.

00:27:09.134 --> 00:27:11.084
I don't know if that happens.

00:27:11.144 --> 00:27:12.249
They don't do that for the whole head.

00:27:12.463 --> 00:27:12.913
I don't know.

00:27:12.973 --> 00:27:13.273
Maybe not.

00:27:13.273 --> 00:27:14.713
It feels like that would be the ideal outcome.

00:27:14.808 --> 00:27:14.929
Definitely.

00:27:14.929 --> 00:27:16.784
Is just like kill those follicles somehow.

00:27:17.263 --> 00:27:17.983
Definitely is not how that works.

00:27:17.983 --> 00:27:19.009
Laser hit removal on your head maybe.

00:27:19.009 --> 00:27:19.288
Mm-hmm.

00:27:19.469 --> 00:27:22.003
But like the, the cost of that,

00:27:22.009 --> 00:27:27.193
that can't be any like, easier than just like hitting like a little real cha bone on the head.

00:27:27.193 --> 00:27:27.433
Trust.

00:27:27.794 --> 00:27:28.489
I got, I got an outfit.

00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:29.324
I've had my eyebrows

00:27:29.324 --> 00:27:29.653
waxed.

00:27:29.653 --> 00:27:30.493
It's pretty pleasant.

00:27:30.554 --> 00:27:33.074
What did they able do that They don't do that to your head.

00:27:33.074 --> 00:27:34.483
That hair is so much different.

00:27:35.233 --> 00:27:36.223
That would hurt so bad.

00:27:36.223 --> 00:27:36.673
Regardless.

00:27:37.003 --> 00:27:37.943
I am a bald man and

00:27:37.943 --> 00:27:38.689
Yeah, he's a bald man.

00:27:38.693 --> 00:27:39.493
Well, I'm rocking it.

00:27:39.493 --> 00:27:39.673
Thanks.

00:27:39.854 --> 00:27:40.213
Here we are.

00:27:40.219 --> 00:27:41.864
That is, you are a good looking bald man.

00:27:41.923 --> 00:27:42.763
Oh, thank Kurt.

00:27:42.884 --> 00:27:47.084
And, uh, I'm no longer jealous of baldness, uh, after kind of

00:27:47.173 --> 00:27:48.284
Yeah, no, it's, it's a chore

00:27:48.284 --> 00:27:49.128
inquiring with you about it.

00:27:49.128 --> 00:27:49.814
It's a chore and stuff.

00:27:49.814 --> 00:27:52.604
I'd rather have this than, the reality is I'll stay a bald man.

00:27:52.604 --> 00:27:53.864
Hold mine for a while.

00:27:53.894 --> 00:27:54.104
It's a chore.

00:27:54.134 --> 00:27:55.423
Um, so, well, I'm sorry.

00:27:56.114 --> 00:27:56.624
Still love you.

00:27:56.983 --> 00:27:57.314
Thanks.

00:27:57.403 --> 00:28:02.594
Um, Ava, have you ever been attracted to a bald man?

00:28:04.304 --> 00:28:04.604
Nobody.

00:28:04.604 --> 00:28:05.263
My age is bald.

00:28:05.503 --> 00:28:06.374
I'm gonna say no.

00:28:06.733 --> 00:28:07.364
Thank gosh.

00:28:07.874 --> 00:28:07.933
No.

00:28:09.554 --> 00:28:10.304
Well that's good.

00:28:10.423 --> 00:28:10.903
That's good.

00:28:11.324 --> 00:28:19.814
Um, forehead, what I'm gonna jump into, I was, yeah, I just had an actual inappropriate question I was gonna ask, but then I decided that I shouldn't

00:28:19.933 --> 00:28:20.749
Oh, you were baiting.

00:28:21.449 --> 00:28:26.278
No, I actually thought about what I was gonna say before I said it and decided not to.

00:28:32.308 --> 00:28:32.878
Thank you guys.

00:28:32.878 --> 00:28:34.019
I really appreciate that.

00:28:34.078 --> 00:28:34.618
Standing.

00:28:34.618 --> 00:28:35.574
Hey, that's called self-control.

00:28:35.703 --> 00:28:37.013
We're self-discipline.

00:28:37.153 --> 00:28:38.459
That's called growth.

00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:39.449
That's so proud.

00:28:39.594 --> 00:28:45.179
Oh, I had a very unusual episode was episode two 15 with Edward Reinhardt.

00:28:46.019 --> 00:28:46.318
Oh my

00:28:46.318 --> 00:28:46.558
god.

00:28:46.558 --> 00:28:47.068
The kid.

00:28:47.098 --> 00:28:47.459
Yeah,

00:28:47.459 --> 00:28:49.653
the kid that was Theca program and stuff.

00:28:49.854 --> 00:28:50.173
I wasn't here.

00:28:50.173 --> 00:28:50.223
I don't You were here.

00:28:50.489 --> 00:28:51.239
No, you weren't here yet.

00:28:51.239 --> 00:28:52.439
That was still in April.

00:28:52.469 --> 00:28:52.618
Yeah.

00:28:52.618 --> 00:28:53.429
That was interesting.

00:28:54.419 --> 00:28:56.759
It was, you know, I thought we had a nice conversation.

00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:56.848
We've

00:28:56.848 --> 00:29:00.328
never had somebody that's not like we have very little people on that.

00:29:00.328 --> 00:29:00.614
There's no life story.

00:29:00.778 --> 00:29:03.213
'cause he has done shit that aren't like ceo, he's 17, 18.

00:29:03.219 --> 00:29:09.824
Yeah, he just did deca, which is that like program in, in high school you do that like teaches you how to do like sales and you go in front of people entrepreneurship and this and that.

00:29:10.048 --> 00:29:10.378
Yeah.

00:29:10.378 --> 00:29:12.689
So that was, yeah, that was interesting.

00:29:13.048 --> 00:29:13.259
Yeah.

00:29:13.259 --> 00:29:13.979
Have you done a follow up?

00:29:14.368 --> 00:29:14.578
No.

00:29:14.818 --> 00:29:15.598
How are things now?

00:29:16.138 --> 00:29:16.679
Haven't heard?

00:29:16.709 --> 00:29:19.558
You know, he's only in his first semester at something, something,

00:29:19.798 --> 00:29:21.058
but, you know, things change fast.

00:29:21.058 --> 00:29:21.479
Yeah.

00:29:21.479 --> 00:29:22.169
I suppose something, something I suppose,

00:29:22.618 --> 00:29:28.919
uh, we had the, uh, verboten brewing a couple on Josh and Angie gr, Angie Grins.

00:29:29.278 --> 00:29:34.618
I've made that, uh, the, the Verboten North gets a lot more of my business than the verboten Loveland did.

00:29:34.739 --> 00:29:35.128
Not that.

00:29:35.128 --> 00:29:37.709
I like the, and love one is super cool.

00:29:37.709 --> 00:29:40.469
It's a great location and stuff, but I'm just not down there as much.

00:29:40.469 --> 00:29:40.798
Totally.

00:29:41.128 --> 00:29:42.838
Whereas Rebo North has a.

00:29:43.213 --> 00:29:44.114
Nice pizzas.

00:29:44.114 --> 00:29:45.163
Always good beers.

00:29:45.284 --> 00:29:52.304
Yeah, it's pretty, you know, I try not to go south of Prospect, but it's barely south of Prospect, like literally like 200 yards.

00:29:52.334 --> 00:29:52.364
Oh.

00:29:52.364 --> 00:29:53.503
I mean, so that counts.

00:29:53.564 --> 00:29:55.544
If you can wrap that, it's section in Music City into

00:29:55.544 --> 00:29:57.223
one trip plus the cigar shop.

00:29:57.703 --> 00:29:57.913
Yeah.

00:29:57.913 --> 00:29:59.384
There's a lot of good that's down there.

00:29:59.384 --> 00:29:59.743
Yeah.

00:29:59.804 --> 00:30:04.094
And, and Los TROs Americana right around the corner where you get your Oh yeah.

00:30:04.183 --> 00:30:07.453
Uh, tortillas and your, what do they call the fried pig?

00:30:07.693 --> 00:30:08.834
Pig skins.

00:30:08.834 --> 00:30:08.864
Oh.

00:30:09.403 --> 00:30:10.903
Um, not Ros.

00:30:11.298 --> 00:30:12.638
No, they're, um, chicharone.

00:30:12.638 --> 00:30:13.159
Chicharone.

00:30:13.159 --> 00:30:13.598
Chicharone.

00:30:13.604 --> 00:30:13.814
Yeah.

00:30:13.814 --> 00:30:14.233
Thank you.

00:30:14.324 --> 00:30:14.503
Yeah.

00:30:14.653 --> 00:30:16.903
Those are the best Chi Chicharone in town.

00:30:16.903 --> 00:30:17.144
I've never

00:30:17.144 --> 00:30:19.213
tried when I've seen them all over every day.

00:30:19.213 --> 00:30:19.544
Really?

00:30:19.544 --> 00:30:21.314
With like the big thing a g guac and they, like,

00:30:21.433 --> 00:30:22.844
I was thinking about reaching out to them.

00:30:22.844 --> 00:30:23.713
That's pig skin.

00:30:23.949 --> 00:30:24.239
Yeah.

00:30:24.239 --> 00:30:24.943
It's pig skin.

00:30:25.213 --> 00:30:30.763
What's the things that are like, pig, maybe it's the same thing I'm thinking of like a chip that's like really airy.

00:30:30.763 --> 00:30:32.084
That's like, yeah, that's that same thing.

00:30:32.084 --> 00:30:33.009
That's skin pig.

00:30:33.009 --> 00:30:36.284
Just like, like why is it so like when you see, you think it would be like a flat,

00:30:36.314 --> 00:30:41.443
when you see a ham, like a, like a whole ham and it's got like that kind of brownish Yeah.

00:30:41.624 --> 00:30:43.634
Part that's kind of thick and leathery kind of.

00:30:43.903 --> 00:30:44.413
That's that.

00:30:44.413 --> 00:30:44.503
And

00:30:44.503 --> 00:30:46.288
they just like deep fry it so it just expands.

00:30:46.288 --> 00:30:46.409
Yep.

00:30:46.409 --> 00:30:46.528
Yep.

00:30:46.544 --> 00:30:46.604
Okay.

00:30:46.993 --> 00:30:47.413
Exactly.

00:30:47.413 --> 00:30:49.513
Cut it into little pieces and drop it in the deep fryer.

00:30:50.324 --> 00:30:50.773
Interesting.

00:30:50.773 --> 00:30:51.044
Love it.

00:30:51.794 --> 00:30:54.074
You're a Mexican food fan, you're a spice fan.

00:30:54.284 --> 00:30:54.644
Big.

00:30:55.453 --> 00:30:57.648
It doesn't, uh, mess with the, I wish this was an episode.

00:30:57.828 --> 00:30:58.048
We

00:30:58.048 --> 00:30:58.568
were trying things.

00:30:58.753 --> 00:31:01.193
I have a, we could put some hot sauce up.

00:31:01.193 --> 00:31:02.443
I just pounded my body into submissions.

00:31:04.094 --> 00:31:08.534
I, as you noticed in our, uh, mayoral, uh, candidate series.

00:31:08.534 --> 00:31:10.844
I get sweaty Betty when I taught sausage anymore.

00:31:10.844 --> 00:31:10.903
You

00:31:10.903 --> 00:31:11.473
sure do.

00:31:11.713 --> 00:31:12.074
It's pretty

00:31:12.163 --> 00:31:13.394
dis I mean, these lights don't help it.

00:31:14.114 --> 00:31:14.384
Right?

00:31:14.683 --> 00:31:17.263
I have, well, this big forehead I have doesn't help it either.

00:31:17.384 --> 00:31:23.413
I had an overly generous helping of, uh, one of the, the room two 17 sauce with my lunch today.

00:31:23.443 --> 00:31:23.894
Okay.

00:31:23.894 --> 00:31:24.554
It was awesome.

00:31:25.663 --> 00:31:26.743
Changes your mood.

00:31:26.834 --> 00:31:27.044
Yeah.

00:31:27.523 --> 00:31:29.564
Um, Phil Spry, right?

00:31:30.403 --> 00:31:38.953
We had a, a rotary guest, uh, a couple of rotary guests on, uh, with David Hasi and Therese Lambert talking about our flags of honor.

00:31:38.953 --> 00:31:39.044
Mm-hmm.

00:31:39.284 --> 00:31:40.513
What did you think about that, Ava?

00:31:41.084 --> 00:31:49.423
Like, it was different than our normal format as well, but really a great pair of examples of kind of, I'm trying to remember, community service into.

00:31:50.159 --> 00:31:50.699
They're, oh,

00:31:50.699 --> 00:31:54.824
this was about the, the, the, the airplanes in the Peach Festival.

00:31:54.963 --> 00:31:55.183
Yes.

00:31:55.364 --> 00:31:57.023
And the field of honor with honoring

00:31:57.023 --> 00:31:58.378
the veterans and first responders.

00:31:58.378 --> 00:31:59.624
They were amazing and all kinds of stuff.

00:31:59.624 --> 00:31:59.784
They

00:31:59.784 --> 00:32:04.648
were like, they were very informative and like clearly cared deeply about what they were doing.

00:32:04.709 --> 00:32:04.979
Yeah.

00:32:05.038 --> 00:32:07.648
And I was really upset to miss the Peach Festival.

00:32:08.009 --> 00:32:08.703
That was Did you go?

00:32:08.969 --> 00:32:09.838
I did, yeah.

00:32:09.838 --> 00:32:11.788
I volunteered actually for a few hours.

00:32:11.788 --> 00:32:12.058
Yeah.

00:32:12.689 --> 00:32:15.689
Um, wish I could field of honor.

00:32:16.019 --> 00:32:17.308
I'm just gonna go through second quarter.

00:32:17.308 --> 00:32:17.398
Sure.

00:32:17.398 --> 00:32:19.199
Then we'll bounce back into some good stuff here.

00:32:19.199 --> 00:32:19.439
That's great.

00:32:19.528 --> 00:32:21.538
So what are you doing with yourself?

00:32:21.544 --> 00:32:29.159
This special is coming, this Ava, uh, like you were kind of like, I think I, it's time, you know, for me to leave at the end of the semester.

00:32:29.159 --> 00:32:29.219
Yeah.

00:32:29.219 --> 00:32:31.864
I gonna be job hunting and I got this job with iHeart.

00:32:31.884 --> 00:32:32.304
That's

00:32:32.334 --> 00:32:32.624
cool.

00:32:32.628 --> 00:32:32.939
Yeah.

00:32:32.939 --> 00:32:38.638
So I currently pretty cool work at, uh, in, uh, promotions and marketing at iHeartRadio.

00:32:39.118 --> 00:32:40.858
Um, future steps.

00:32:40.858 --> 00:32:46.919
I really wanted to get into sales, so I've kind, talking to iHeart about it, talking to Sadie about it, talking.

00:32:47.308 --> 00:32:51.298
I'm kind of at this moment, um, I'm burnt out of having two jobs.

00:32:51.388 --> 00:32:53.368
It's so exhausting being a senior.

00:32:53.759 --> 00:33:09.598
And I have my capstones next semester, so I'm gonna hold onto one job for a minute until the bills get backed up and then I am kind of in like the next few months looking to start, like entry level sales, field sales is kind of what I wanna do the most.

00:33:09.628 --> 00:33:11.848
Um, and there's a lot of opportunity for that.

00:33:11.848 --> 00:33:12.868
A lot of it's in Denver though.

00:33:12.868 --> 00:33:14.278
I don't really wanna move to Denver.

00:33:14.878 --> 00:33:19.078
Um, my house as a whole has kind of made the executive decision that we're probably staying in our place.

00:33:19.084 --> 00:33:19.223
Oh,

00:33:19.223 --> 00:33:19.624
is that right?

00:33:19.733 --> 00:33:20.023
Okay.

00:33:20.173 --> 00:33:23.634
Yeah, we just kind of, so if you're, if you're a business owner out there listening and you need a smart, yeah.

00:33:23.634 --> 00:33:24.624
So my name is Eva Manuse.

00:33:25.023 --> 00:33:25.223
I am,

00:33:25.324 --> 00:33:27.223
um, 21 entry level sales person.

00:33:27.298 --> 00:33:35.638
I'm graduating, um, CSU right now with a marketing major and I'm getting a double concentration in marketing and management as well as a B2B selling certification.

00:33:35.638 --> 00:33:37.288
So certification.

00:33:37.709 --> 00:33:40.949
Um, yeah, so I'm looking around the Colorado area, Northern Colorado.

00:33:40.949 --> 00:33:44.519
I'm looking more as, you know, Fort Collins, Windsor, Loveland.

00:33:44.969 --> 00:33:46.259
Would you go to Cheyenne for a good job?

00:33:46.318 --> 00:33:47.189
No.

00:33:47.368 --> 00:33:47.699
Really?

00:33:47.999 --> 00:33:48.179
No.

00:33:48.179 --> 00:33:49.679
I've done so many remotes in Cheyenne.

00:33:49.679 --> 00:33:50.278
I'm over Cheyenne.

00:33:50.338 --> 00:33:52.169
Oh, it's just such a quick drive though.

00:33:52.378 --> 00:33:56.429
Yeah, it's a quick drive, but I don't wanna get hate, but I don't like Shay that much.

00:33:56.429 --> 00:33:56.784
No, that's cool.

00:33:56.788 --> 00:34:00.509
I've had some bad interactions with some people there during remotes and it wasn't fun.

00:34:00.929 --> 00:34:01.378
Can you, yeah.

00:34:01.378 --> 00:34:08.608
So my next, my next steps are, you know, for now having one job for a month or two and then going into some entry level sales, if is

00:34:08.608 --> 00:34:10.139
the kind of person you wanna buy stuff from.

00:34:10.228 --> 00:34:10.889
Yeah, I would agree.

00:34:10.918 --> 00:34:11.128
Yeah.

00:34:11.278 --> 00:34:11.579
Yeah,

00:34:11.759 --> 00:34:12.208
yeah, yeah.

00:34:12.208 --> 00:34:12.929
She would crush it.

00:34:13.259 --> 00:34:13.588
Absolutely.

00:34:13.588 --> 00:34:13.619
I

00:34:13.619 --> 00:34:14.099
think so.

00:34:14.099 --> 00:34:15.143
I mean, I think, I mean, I'm hungry.

00:34:15.143 --> 00:34:20.878
I think probably, probably not to interrupt, but I think your time here at Loco.

00:34:21.914 --> 00:34:22.903
And just exploring.

00:34:22.903 --> 00:34:29.804
Like the silly thing about me sometimes is I'll get into a 30 minute philosophical conversation that I pay you for

00:34:30.463 --> 00:34:30.793
Yep.

00:34:31.003 --> 00:34:32.264
That you should be paying me for.

00:34:33.313 --> 00:34:33.403
Yep.

00:34:33.463 --> 00:34:33.943
Punching off.

00:34:34.003 --> 00:34:34.574
Just kidding.

00:34:34.768 --> 00:34:37.034
Some, some, some therapy sessions for sure.

00:34:37.634 --> 00:34:47.503
But I mean, just reflecting on the kind of the wiring of, you're kind of a little more like me, whereas if they kept you away from interacting with people, most of the time it would feel like punishment.

00:34:47.534 --> 00:34:47.744
Horrible.

00:34:47.744 --> 00:34:48.043
Totally.

00:34:48.043 --> 00:34:48.103
Yeah.

00:34:48.614 --> 00:34:53.143
And so I, I think you're well poised to, that's add some value to somebody's team in that space.

00:34:53.173 --> 00:34:53.353
I would

00:34:53.353 --> 00:34:53.773
love to,

00:34:54.043 --> 00:34:59.324
if, if hire me, if you were smart enough to learn about business real fast, I could hire you for loco sales.

00:34:59.324 --> 00:35:01.903
But it's just a, it's a learning curve on how to sell.

00:35:01.903 --> 00:35:02.653
Look, that is such a learning curve.

00:35:02.653 --> 00:35:08.414
And I feel like also if I was talking to like business owners as like a 21-year-old female, I don't know.

00:35:08.418 --> 00:35:08.579
Right.

00:35:08.579 --> 00:35:08.739
I feel

00:35:08.739 --> 00:35:09.853
like you come across better.

00:35:10.333 --> 00:35:12.463
You guys are, I don't think I meant for that.

00:35:12.463 --> 00:35:14.324
Well, I mean, sadly, um, old and bald.

00:35:14.594 --> 00:35:19.903
Um, there's another reality where confidence matters far more than age.

00:35:20.143 --> 00:35:24.793
Uh, and I don't mean arrogance, I don't mean Shadur Sanders.

00:35:24.884 --> 00:35:25.063
Yeah.

00:35:25.483 --> 00:35:28.304
I mean, I know what I am talking about.

00:35:28.364 --> 00:35:28.873
Yeah.

00:35:28.873 --> 00:35:28.884
Yeah.

00:35:28.934 --> 00:35:31.753
Um, and there's an authority that comes behind the voice with that.

00:35:31.753 --> 00:35:36.943
And you do that well when you know, uh, you second guess yourself too often, but you do your you do.

00:35:36.943 --> 00:35:37.364
It's true.

00:35:37.693 --> 00:35:38.083
But yeah,

00:35:38.384 --> 00:35:39.134
you've gotta I'm humble.

00:35:39.373 --> 00:35:40.003
You've gifted.

00:35:40.153 --> 00:35:40.693
You're gifted.

00:35:41.054 --> 00:35:41.324
Yeah.

00:35:41.324 --> 00:35:42.643
Gifted is special.

00:35:43.304 --> 00:35:43.423
Stop.

00:35:43.483 --> 00:35:45.643
I like to say I'm the most humble person I've ever met.

00:35:46.349 --> 00:35:46.409
Yeah.

00:35:46.949 --> 00:35:47.369
Right.

00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:49.289
Amazing.

00:35:49.469 --> 00:35:50.518
Just the best.

00:35:50.518 --> 00:35:51.028
The best.

00:35:51.028 --> 00:35:51.418
Amazing.

00:35:51.418 --> 00:35:53.099
The, the, the most humble.

00:35:53.909 --> 00:35:54.329
Oh my God.

00:35:54.329 --> 00:35:55.619
That was the humblest president.

00:35:56.309 --> 00:35:56.579
I hated of

00:35:56.579 --> 00:35:56.648
my ears.

00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:06.208
Um, I'm finishing up my look over on Q2 and one of my favorites and Ava let me know if you agree, but, uh oh, what?

00:36:06.208 --> 00:36:12.449
Constantine Ger, the Russian economist dude, that the instructors Oh my, that's your, that was

00:36:12.449 --> 00:36:13.378
your favorite episode.

00:36:13.378 --> 00:36:15.119
One of my favorites from LA that quarter.

00:36:15.358 --> 00:36:19.349
Um, although like he can talk,

00:36:19.349 --> 00:36:23.398
I couldn't give you a single point on what happened in that conversation, so outta my realm.

00:36:23.489 --> 00:36:28.438
But that was, I he talked more than you and there's little episodes where the guest talks more than you.

00:36:28.438 --> 00:36:28.798
Really?

00:36:29.398 --> 00:36:29.518
Yeah.

00:36:29.563 --> 00:36:29.684
I

00:36:29.684 --> 00:36:30.088
feel like I

00:36:30.088 --> 00:36:30.599
talk

00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.668
like less usually though.

00:36:32.728 --> 00:36:33.478
I mean, it's pretty equal.

00:36:33.478 --> 00:36:37.403
I tell little stories and stuff, but Yeah, there he was like 80 20, but he, yeah, 90 10 maybe

00:36:37.739 --> 00:36:40.679
he, Kurt got like 10 words in it and he'd be like, well, let's talk about this.

00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:50.844
And he'd go into it for so long and usually Kurt's pretty good at like interrupting and like, whether it's like positive or negative, but like I feel like you're good at like, kind of like getting in there and having your own point to like convers.

00:36:50.844 --> 00:36:50.963
Yeah.

00:36:51.059 --> 00:36:55.648
I was take a conversation but you couldn't like there was no his student, he knows what he's talking about.

00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:56.458
His he does.

00:36:56.458 --> 00:36:58.018
And I learned he a so much from Yeah.

00:36:58.018 --> 00:37:04.378
He's a professor of economics and all these kind of student of Irish and Russian economy systems and all these things.

00:37:04.378 --> 00:37:04.829
And it was.

00:37:05.474 --> 00:37:07.184
You know, I wanted to talk about Russia, Ukraine.

00:37:07.184 --> 00:37:07.358
Yeah, of course.

00:37:07.358 --> 00:37:08.474
And different things like that.

00:37:08.474 --> 00:37:11.054
And it was, it was, for me, it was a fascinating conversation.

00:37:11.054 --> 00:37:11.114
Yeah.

00:37:11.114 --> 00:37:14.503
'cause he's come from such a different angle and knowledge base that I have.

00:37:14.563 --> 00:37:14.773
Yeah.

00:37:14.983 --> 00:37:17.503
And it was so like unbiased and just like straight to the point.

00:37:17.503 --> 00:37:17.833
Yeah.

00:37:17.838 --> 00:37:19.603
And like, you couldn't like really argue with it.

00:37:19.693 --> 00:37:34.393
Well, and one of the things he really said was, you know, organic concepts that are not necessarily like private equity funded and stuff, but that get enough traction to escape the region are like the biggest drivers of economic flourishing,

00:37:34.994 --> 00:37:35.958
great memory I remember making.

00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:50.833
And so, yeah, like, like Chiba Hut strikes me as, as one of those, or one that's coming right up here, um, of the Basta, uh, the founders of Telus Gear, which is, this is my favorite shirt now, A Telus shirt.

00:37:50.833 --> 00:37:51.643
Love, I like that shirt.

00:37:51.643 --> 00:38:00.733
But Joe built a, a vanilla extract, vertically integrated business that was amazing.

00:38:00.733 --> 00:38:09.403
And, and improved lives of hundreds of vanilla farmers in Madagascar and uh, really, you know, built kind of a dynasty.

00:38:09.403 --> 00:38:09.463
Yeah.

00:38:09.469 --> 00:38:09.509
That's crazy.

00:38:09.514 --> 00:38:15.463
And then turned that into, you know, turn the wealth he got from that into a social enterprise that they'll never make any money from.

00:38:15.554 --> 00:38:15.853
Yeah.

00:38:16.364 --> 00:38:21.643
Uh, but that creates amazing clothes and gives back to environmental causes.

00:38:21.673 --> 00:38:21.764
Mm-hmm.

00:38:22.003 --> 00:38:22.903
Sustain wonderful things.

00:38:22.903 --> 00:38:23.264
Yeah.

00:38:23.864 --> 00:38:24.284
So,

00:38:24.344 --> 00:38:24.523
yeah.

00:38:24.523 --> 00:38:25.753
I hope that business keeps growing.

00:38:25.934 --> 00:38:26.653
I hope so too.

00:38:26.773 --> 00:38:28.094
Yeah, it feels like it should.

00:38:28.123 --> 00:38:28.514
Yeah.

00:38:28.603 --> 00:38:35.353
And it's hard, you know, it's a tough industry to break into, you know, they got nothing like the scale of Patagonia, but their products are right on that level for me.

00:38:35.353 --> 00:38:35.773
Yeah.

00:38:36.614 --> 00:38:38.623
I get compliments every time I wear this shirt.

00:38:38.623 --> 00:38:40.333
Same like this in my bare sweater.

00:38:40.393 --> 00:38:40.634
Yep.

00:38:40.873 --> 00:38:42.014
Or the made two shirts.

00:38:42.014 --> 00:38:44.713
I get compliments on the, you're there on Bear.

00:38:44.824 --> 00:38:46.233
So to wrap up, oh.

00:38:46.324 --> 00:38:47.673
High craft builders.

00:38:47.793 --> 00:38:48.184
Yeah.

00:38:48.244 --> 00:38:48.903
Did you listen to my

00:38:48.903 --> 00:38:49.579
High Craft builders?

00:38:49.659 --> 00:38:50.739
I did not listen to High Craft yet.

00:38:50.739 --> 00:38:51.724
You would like that one

00:38:51.724 --> 00:38:55.293
because it kind of fits your notion of building things, right?

00:38:55.443 --> 00:38:55.653
Yeah.

00:38:55.713 --> 00:38:56.284
And stuff.

00:38:56.284 --> 00:38:56.704
Absolutely.

00:38:57.543 --> 00:39:00.003
Travis Luther was an intense one.

00:39:00.003 --> 00:39:00.784
That was, that was intense.

00:39:01.833 --> 00:39:03.693
He was a, I remember meeting Travis.

00:39:03.693 --> 00:39:04.324
Yeah.

00:39:04.414 --> 00:39:04.623
Yeah.

00:39:04.623 --> 00:39:05.704
He's a memorable guy.

00:39:05.704 --> 00:39:06.123
That's awesome.

00:39:06.153 --> 00:39:09.099
Oh, he said he was gonna have me on his podcast and he hasn't shout bitch.

00:39:09.099 --> 00:39:09.454
Shout out Travis.

00:39:09.454 --> 00:39:10.623
I guess I need to reach out to him.

00:39:11.253 --> 00:39:11.623
Write it down.

00:39:11.623 --> 00:39:11.634
Yeah.

00:39:11.634 --> 00:39:14.554
Oh, I should Sadie write this down and remind me

00:39:15.963 --> 00:39:16.684
Sadie's like what,

00:39:17.103 --> 00:39:18.153
who's Travis Luther?

00:39:18.574 --> 00:39:22.324
Um, do you think High Craft Builders is hiring my friends at Interior Design?

00:39:22.324 --> 00:39:22.773
I'm just

00:39:23.103 --> 00:39:26.224
maybe, um, the, they hire irregularly.

00:39:26.224 --> 00:39:33.994
You should listen to my first interview with Mandy Mullen because she worked for high craft builders and she credited them as being like.

00:39:34.684 --> 00:39:41.313
W like her local think tank in a way that like taught her so much, taught her so much about being a professional, being skilled and gifted.

00:39:41.704 --> 00:39:45.123
If you love like beautiful kitchens and mm-hmm.

00:39:45.364 --> 00:39:48.094
Living spaces and stuff, or, or pretend that you do, yeah.

00:39:48.094 --> 00:39:49.233
You'd probably have a better chance.

00:39:49.293 --> 00:39:50.043
What do you think the difference

00:39:50.043 --> 00:39:53.679
between Hutch, um, Hutch home and design versus high craft?

00:39:53.898 --> 00:39:56.643
Do you think high craft is more like architectural?

00:39:56.974 --> 00:39:59.554
Well, Hutch is more like interior design.

00:39:59.554 --> 00:40:00.998
I'm try to explain difference.

00:40:00.998 --> 00:40:01.474
I think that's a bit true.

00:40:01.474 --> 00:40:06.034
Like that's part of high craft's value proposition is their kind of a design, right.

00:40:06.034 --> 00:40:08.614
Build in house for both the architectural.

00:40:08.614 --> 00:40:08.764
And hu

00:40:08.764 --> 00:40:09.903
does design build as well?

00:40:10.054 --> 00:40:10.414
They do.

00:40:10.414 --> 00:40:10.798
They do, yep.

00:40:10.858 --> 00:40:12.574
And that's their core, their business.

00:40:12.693 --> 00:40:19.923
But I, yes, but I would say that the interior design element at Allie brings and the thoughtfulness around what the architecture should be.

00:40:19.923 --> 00:40:21.483
Another layer is.

00:40:21.483 --> 00:40:22.864
But so yes, they do that.

00:40:22.983 --> 00:40:33.963
Um, and, and Hutch has been around for five years in high craft for 30 and so, and, but otherwise, you know, mostly you'll just pay 30% more for high craft, probably.

00:40:34.684 --> 00:40:37.759
Not to knock'em, but, but they're definitely the premium, right?

00:40:38.688 --> 00:40:39.889
Uh, that's kind of how they like cost per square foot

00:40:39.978 --> 00:40:41.358
show themselves as like high craft.

00:40:41.389 --> 00:40:42.918
Yeah, they're very, yeah, we're the best.

00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:44.329
Yeah.

00:40:44.329 --> 00:40:47.748
If you want your neighbors to be like, Ooh, they did a remodel with High Craft,

00:40:47.748 --> 00:40:48.889
they did at my neighbor's house.

00:40:48.918 --> 00:40:49.159
If you

00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.998
just want a really nice remodel at a fair price, then that might be

00:40:52.998 --> 00:40:53.329
better.

00:40:53.329 --> 00:40:53.599
I don't know.

00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:53.659
Yeah.

00:40:53.659 --> 00:40:55.184
Shout it to Hut.

00:40:55.188 --> 00:40:55.338
No

00:40:55.338 --> 00:40:55.699
Shade.

00:40:55.699 --> 00:40:56.478
Dwight, if you hear me.

00:40:56.478 --> 00:40:56.539
No.

00:40:56.539 --> 00:40:56.628
Shade.

00:40:56.634 --> 00:40:56.744
Shade.

00:40:56.748 --> 00:40:57.438
I love you too.

00:40:57.559 --> 00:40:59.028
I consult with Hutch, love them.

00:41:00.014 --> 00:41:00.824
Partial to them.

00:41:00.943 --> 00:41:01.264
I love that.

00:41:01.264 --> 00:41:03.018
Devi partial to them and Dwight's not a member

00:41:03.018 --> 00:41:04.878
and Noah is, so whatever, Dwight.

00:41:04.878 --> 00:41:07.909
If you want me to say nice, nicer things about you, then you better join Loco.

00:41:07.909 --> 00:41:08.148
Think.

00:41:08.298 --> 00:41:08.329
I

00:41:08.329 --> 00:41:09.829
don't know Dwight, but Noah's probably better.

00:41:10.759 --> 00:41:11.148
Just kidding.

00:41:12.139 --> 00:41:13.878
Um, oh, this was a fun one.

00:41:13.938 --> 00:41:15.889
Um, the Elders.

00:41:16.009 --> 00:41:16.699
Oh yeah.

00:41:16.699 --> 00:41:17.449
Elder Construction, elder other construction.

00:41:17.449 --> 00:41:17.929
I love them.

00:41:17.989 --> 00:41:21.409
The twin brothers, Chris and Patrick, and then their business partner Austin.

00:41:21.469 --> 00:41:30.168
I just liked how they were like, we were all like, they all went to CSU together and had, and had stories from CSU and then like all came together and formed this like com.

00:41:30.173 --> 00:41:31.429
Like I thought it was great.

00:41:31.458 --> 00:41:31.818
That's awesome.

00:41:31.824 --> 00:41:32.063
I loved it.

00:41:32.684 --> 00:41:36.679
You know, I, I'm just gonna make a quick observation, Ava, in that, oh God.

00:41:36.768 --> 00:41:47.929
Some of the most wonderful and inspiring, uh, podcast guests that you've like expressed about a high percentage of them are like Christians.

00:41:48.889 --> 00:41:55.518
And I know that you weren't really raised in the church or anything, but I see a, I see a Christian future for you because you have been kind of.

00:41:57.349 --> 00:42:03.498
Drawn to, you've been drawn toward some of the kind of stronger Christian personalities.

00:42:03.583 --> 00:42:08.208
I'm, I'm a Christian too, but like those guys live a little better than I do in some ways.

00:42:08.213 --> 00:42:16.608
And, and, uh, example it and like, I forget his name now, but the big NBA guy that prayed for both of us after the podcast.

00:42:16.614 --> 00:42:17.898
The Of the Nuggets.

00:42:17.929 --> 00:42:18.199
Yeah.

00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:19.369
Charles Speller Speller.

00:42:19.458 --> 00:42:19.878
Yes.

00:42:19.884 --> 00:42:20.083
Memory.

00:42:20.244 --> 00:42:21.443
I should be the one my

00:42:21.653 --> 00:42:22.003
great.

00:42:22.003 --> 00:42:22.083
Yeah.

00:42:22.143 --> 00:42:26.358
And, and like I just, I just, I see it in you that you're just drawn to that a little bit.

00:42:26.358 --> 00:42:29.523
So don't, don't deny it because it's not popular, I guess is all I would say.

00:42:29.523 --> 00:42:29.684
I thought

00:42:29.684 --> 00:42:30.978
you were gonna say bald men.

00:42:31.248 --> 00:42:34.818
I thought he was gonna say something about men and I was like,

00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:36.559
no.

00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.748
Well, not drawn to faith.

00:42:38.809 --> 00:42:38.898
Yeah.

00:42:38.898 --> 00:42:41.809
But Jesus, you, you should get to know him a little bit, see if you like him.

00:42:42.139 --> 00:42:48.018
That's my encouragement, because I'm not gonna have the influence on you going forward as I have had the last 18 months or whatever.

00:42:48.018 --> 00:42:48.289
So.

00:42:48.409 --> 00:42:48.648
Oh,

00:42:48.949 --> 00:42:51.139
and there are so many bad Christians right now too.

00:42:51.168 --> 00:42:51.378
There are.

00:42:51.378 --> 00:42:54.559
And so, so glad that you guys have found good ones.

00:42:54.619 --> 00:42:55.068
Yeah.

00:42:55.398 --> 00:42:56.088
Well they're not really

00:42:56.088 --> 00:42:56.748
Christians.

00:42:57.318 --> 00:43:01.548
They're people, they're bad people that try to cover it over Yes and amen and make excuses.

00:43:01.608 --> 00:43:03.469
Uh, but they're not real Christians.

00:43:03.469 --> 00:43:06.284
So take that outta your, we could mind a little bit too, we

00:43:06.284 --> 00:43:08.059
could talk about that for Oh, for sure.

00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:08.628
Seems

00:43:09.498 --> 00:43:10.338
inflammatory.

00:43:10.338 --> 00:43:12.403
I avoid inflammatory topics on here.

00:43:12.454 --> 00:43:12.664
Okay.

00:43:12.664 --> 00:43:13.684
Let's go ahead and take a break.

00:43:14.494 --> 00:43:14.764
Okay.

00:43:14.824 --> 00:43:15.094
Oh yeah.

00:43:15.094 --> 00:43:15.724
Bourbon break.

00:43:15.753 --> 00:43:16.293
Bourbon break.

00:44:05.735 --> 00:44:12.034
Uh, so Ben, when we departed for our break, we were about ready to jump in the time machine.

00:44:12.304 --> 00:44:12.784
Ooh.

00:44:15.844 --> 00:44:16.864
You know the sound pretty good.

00:44:16.864 --> 00:44:24.724
Ava, uh, was that a familiar sound in your.

00:44:26.059 --> 00:44:26.989
Uh, young years.

00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:29.030
That sound of uh, no, no, no, no.

00:44:29.750 --> 00:44:29.929
Okay.

00:44:29.929 --> 00:44:32.929
I thought maybe it was, that was like impulsive.

00:44:33.110 --> 00:44:34.190
Where, where were you?

00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:36.590
What was when you were just like, grew up, born north?

00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:37.099
Yeah.

00:44:37.099 --> 00:44:38.150
I grew up north of Dallas.

00:44:38.329 --> 00:44:39.260
North of Dallas.

00:44:39.530 --> 00:44:40.639
And my folks are still there.

00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:41.869
Shout out to Scott and Ellen.

00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:42.590
Great parents.

00:44:42.590 --> 00:44:44.840
It's up Scott and he, they're together with each other too.

00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:45.440
Yeah.

00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:45.500
Yeah.

00:44:46.309 --> 00:44:46.820
How many years?

00:44:46.820 --> 00:44:47.210
Married now?

00:44:47.269 --> 00:44:48.170
30 years.

00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:48.260
Wow.

00:44:48.619 --> 00:44:49.190
No, sorry.

00:44:49.190 --> 00:44:50.539
35 over the summer.

00:44:50.539 --> 00:44:51.619
I was gonna say, aren't you like 35?

00:44:51.619 --> 00:44:53.300
Uh, no, I, I am 35.

00:44:53.300 --> 00:44:54.349
Wait, no, they're

00:44:54.349 --> 00:44:54.530
old.

00:44:54.530 --> 00:44:54.679
I was

00:44:54.724 --> 00:44:56.005
gonna say, it's gonna be longer than

00:44:56.005 --> 00:44:56.125
that.

00:44:58.369 --> 00:44:58.429
Waitering.

00:44:58.489 --> 00:44:59.119
How long have they

00:44:59.119 --> 00:44:59.599
been married?

00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:01.940
When they had you, like, you can, you can do this.

00:45:01.940 --> 00:45:03.380
They didn't do 40, did they?

00:45:03.860 --> 00:45:04.849
They just did a big one.

00:45:04.905 --> 00:45:08.659
It might have been, it must have been 40 because it might have been, was 35, I think, right?

00:45:08.659 --> 00:45:09.320
Or three, four.

00:45:09.349 --> 00:45:09.530
Yeah.

00:45:09.530 --> 00:45:10.159
I'm 34.

00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:10.760
Um, oh,

00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:12.199
well, so, so

00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:12.289
you're

00:45:12.289 --> 00:45:13.045
young and Wow.

00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:14.300
So I was, cons.

00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:18.110
I was only gestational for about seven months.

00:45:18.769 --> 00:45:20.239
Uh,'cause my parents were married like.

00:45:20.704 --> 00:45:22.144
Yeah, seven months before I was born.

00:45:22.775 --> 00:45:26.019
Um, so you could have been really a fast one like me.

00:45:26.045 --> 00:45:26.344
I thought you

00:45:26.344 --> 00:45:28.085
were saying you were very preemie.

00:45:28.204 --> 00:45:28.625
No,

00:45:28.625 --> 00:45:29.704
no, I was full term.

00:45:29.795 --> 00:45:30.215
Oh, okay.

00:45:30.335 --> 00:45:31.534
I just had a seven month option.

00:45:31.594 --> 00:45:32.434
Oh, you're just huge.

00:45:32.465 --> 00:45:33.155
Yeah, I was like, that

00:45:33.155 --> 00:45:33.844
would explain.

00:45:34.235 --> 00:45:34.655
Uh,

00:45:34.655 --> 00:45:38.614
obviously my parents didn't do anything funny before they were married,

00:45:39.244 --> 00:45:40.054
God forbid.

00:45:40.114 --> 00:45:40.505
Right.

00:45:40.804 --> 00:45:41.465
So, yeah.

00:45:41.554 --> 00:45:41.795
Yeah.

00:45:41.795 --> 00:45:42.755
North of Dallas.

00:45:42.815 --> 00:45:43.175
Great.

00:45:43.175 --> 00:45:45.094
Uh, uh, you know, suburban upbringing.

00:45:45.125 --> 00:45:45.394
Okay.

00:45:45.394 --> 00:45:47.135
It was small town when I was little.

00:45:47.135 --> 00:45:49.085
It is now full on suburbs.

00:45:49.085 --> 00:45:49.204
So

00:45:49.204 --> 00:45:52.235
like really north of Dallas, like far enough away to be its own town at the time.

00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:52.619
Oh yeah.

00:45:52.619 --> 00:45:52.900
Oh yeah.

00:45:52.985 --> 00:45:56.045
Uh, now it all bleeds together if you've been through the Dallas suburbs.

00:45:56.045 --> 00:45:56.824
It's, what was the town name?

00:45:57.125 --> 00:45:59.074
Uh, Allen is the name of town, Allen, Texas.

00:45:59.105 --> 00:46:00.304
Oh yeah, I've heard of that actually.

00:46:00.454 --> 00:46:00.664
Yeah.

00:46:00.664 --> 00:46:00.675
Yeah.

00:46:00.675 --> 00:46:01.264
I just, there's like big

00:46:01.264 --> 00:46:02.315
companies up there and stuff.

00:46:02.315 --> 00:46:02.675
Even

00:46:02.735 --> 00:46:04.144
hate visiting.

00:46:05.525 --> 00:46:06.485
Why have you?

00:46:06.485 --> 00:46:09.094
I mean, if you've been I've to Dallas in May and it

00:46:09.094 --> 00:46:12.695
was so freaking hot and humid that I was like, it's, what the hell is it like in June?

00:46:12.695 --> 00:46:13.625
And July's so much that

00:46:13.625 --> 00:46:14.284
for sure.

00:46:14.284 --> 00:46:19.894
But it's, it's more I knew as early as middle school I wanted move to Colorado.

00:46:20.164 --> 00:46:20.494
Okay.

00:46:20.494 --> 00:46:22.355
Like I was, I wanted mountains.

00:46:22.414 --> 00:46:22.625
Yeah.

00:46:22.625 --> 00:46:26.675
I wanted different, you know, just, it's kind of like sterling or

00:46:26.675 --> 00:46:29.375
something, except there's a shitload of oil in the ground.

00:46:29.375 --> 00:46:31.215
So the economy goes boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

00:46:31.445 --> 00:46:39.394
And, uh, well, and the county that I grew up in, uh, uh, it has the number one collective debt in the country.

00:46:39.545 --> 00:46:39.755
Oh.

00:46:39.755 --> 00:46:40.144
Why?

00:46:40.175 --> 00:46:41.255
Um, it is.

00:46:41.945 --> 00:46:44.795
I don't, and I say this with all love to my parents.

00:46:44.795 --> 00:46:46.775
I don't think they participated in this kind of culture.

00:46:46.775 --> 00:46:48.514
Um, and I was very grateful for that.

00:46:48.514 --> 00:46:53.434
But I will say, like our neighbors, my friends, their parents, it was the land of the$50,000 year.

00:46:53.974 --> 00:46:54.014
Oh, everybody.

00:46:54.014 --> 00:46:55.625
Everybody's in debt up to their eyeballs kind of thing.

00:46:55.625 --> 00:46:56.644
Absolutely.

00:46:56.644 --> 00:46:57.394
Interesting.

00:46:57.454 --> 00:47:03.724
Every keeping up with the Joneses was every Chad, Brad and Ken drove a Mercedes and could not afford it.

00:47:03.844 --> 00:47:04.894
Um, interesting.

00:47:05.014 --> 00:47:07.235
And that is absolutely true to this day.

00:47:07.235 --> 00:47:09.275
I call Dallas the land of fake stuff.

00:47:09.425 --> 00:47:10.054
Oh, interesting.

00:47:10.085 --> 00:47:13.684
Um, fake grass, fake hair, fake tits, fake wealthy people.

00:47:13.715 --> 00:47:14.045
Yeah.

00:47:14.105 --> 00:47:15.005
Fake mansions.

00:47:15.034 --> 00:47:15.125
Yeah.

00:47:15.815 --> 00:47:16.385
All of that.

00:47:16.534 --> 00:47:17.255
Interesting.

00:47:17.614 --> 00:47:18.304
Oh, gross.

00:47:18.545 --> 00:47:20.914
It's, it's just not, it's not my fave.

00:47:21.005 --> 00:47:21.394
Yeah.

00:47:21.394 --> 00:47:23.764
But my folks are there and so I happily go see them.

00:47:23.769 --> 00:47:24.335
Do you, do you think you'll

00:47:24.335 --> 00:47:26.525
get'em up here to Colorado at some, some point or something?

00:47:26.525 --> 00:47:26.744
Love that.

00:47:26.744 --> 00:47:28.175
We'd love to debate them with some, do you have siblings

00:47:28.175 --> 00:47:28.565
or anything?

00:47:28.684 --> 00:47:29.434
I've got a sister.

00:47:29.434 --> 00:47:30.635
She's, uh, getting her master.

00:47:30.635 --> 00:47:31.505
She went back to school.

00:47:31.534 --> 00:47:31.565
Okay.

00:47:31.565 --> 00:47:32.525
She's in Indiana down there.

00:47:32.764 --> 00:47:33.079
Oh, in India.

00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:33.480
She's in Indiana.

00:47:33.485 --> 00:47:33.574
Okay.

00:47:33.574 --> 00:47:36.094
So she's already open to the idea of going somewhere.

00:47:36.099 --> 00:47:36.119
Yeah.

00:47:36.545 --> 00:47:36.695
Yeah.

00:47:36.934 --> 00:47:39.304
Um, we would love for them to come out here if they would.

00:47:39.309 --> 00:47:41.885
And, and what would, what do you think their anchor is now?

00:47:42.275 --> 00:47:44.105
Just family was it for a long time?

00:47:44.315 --> 00:47:44.525
Yeah.

00:47:44.579 --> 00:47:48.364
Um, uh, my, my dad's siblings, um, were down there.

00:47:48.364 --> 00:47:48.454
Sure.

00:47:48.454 --> 00:47:48.514
Yeah.

00:47:48.574 --> 00:47:53.344
Uh, his parents were down there and then, you know, being in a place for 35 years, you get community.

00:47:53.344 --> 00:47:53.525
Yeah.

00:47:53.914 --> 00:47:55.760
They met and lived in Austin for a long time.

00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:56.434
Your best thing is

00:47:56.434 --> 00:47:59.585
if you can make some babies that will be the best at attractant to them.

00:47:59.614 --> 00:47:59.704
Yeah.

00:47:59.704 --> 00:48:01.025
And do it before your sister does.

00:48:01.025 --> 00:48:03.184
Otherwise they might move to Indiana or some bullshit.

00:48:03.184 --> 00:48:04.054
Yeah, no, I've already told

00:48:04.054 --> 00:48:05.824
her if, if it happens, I'm gonna be mad at her.

00:48:06.275 --> 00:48:06.574
Right.

00:48:07.940 --> 00:48:08.230
Love

00:48:09.574 --> 00:48:09.965
some.

00:48:10.445 --> 00:48:12.514
I don't, it seems like it would be wrong to, yeah.

00:48:13.355 --> 00:48:19.414
Like put your sister on birth control, like without her knowing it or something like that, so that you can have the first baby.

00:48:19.414 --> 00:48:20.315
It would, it would be, yeah.

00:48:21.005 --> 00:48:25.235
I've studied ethics a fair bit in college and since then and stuff and just,

00:48:25.355 --> 00:48:25.534
yeah, it would be.

00:48:26.074 --> 00:48:30.215
Um, but no, uh, yeah, all shade to Texas, but all love to my fam.

00:48:30.545 --> 00:48:31.954
Um, happy to be out.

00:48:32.195 --> 00:48:32.554
Uh, and

00:48:32.554 --> 00:48:35.510
so middle school, you started dreaming about leaving and then when did Yeah.

00:48:35.510 --> 00:48:35.630
You.

00:48:36.335 --> 00:48:36.844
Leave.

00:48:36.965 --> 00:48:39.605
Uh, I went to Chicago for, uh, college.

00:48:39.724 --> 00:48:40.025
Okay.

00:48:40.085 --> 00:48:42.755
Uh, I played soccer, uh, and got out of there.

00:48:42.934 --> 00:48:43.144
Oh, you

00:48:43.144 --> 00:48:44.344
were like a good soccer player?

00:48:44.405 --> 00:48:47.224
Um, I was a collegiate athlete, we'll call it that.

00:48:47.255 --> 00:48:47.764
Oh, nice.

00:48:47.764 --> 00:48:48.815
I don't know about got a scholarship.

00:48:49.144 --> 00:48:49.355
Yeah.

00:48:49.355 --> 00:48:51.364
I mean, all of that stuff.

00:48:51.364 --> 00:48:52.565
I did all the things.

00:48:52.565 --> 00:48:56.780
Um, you went to soccer schools, did the soccer school expensive soccer coaches and stuff all.

00:48:56.974 --> 00:48:59.105
What, what was your, what were your parents doing?

00:48:59.255 --> 00:49:03.784
Had, were in the oil industry stuff or what was the, um, were they blue collar, white collar, orange color?

00:49:04.085 --> 00:49:05.824
No, my dad's been, my dad's been in the mortgage industry for a long time.

00:49:05.824 --> 00:49:06.125
Okay.

00:49:06.184 --> 00:49:07.460
Um, and, uh, so

00:49:07.465 --> 00:49:09.739
selling big mortgages to people that really couldn't afford it, but yeah,

00:49:10.460 --> 00:49:10.579
whatever.

00:49:11.315 --> 00:49:11.585
Yeah.

00:49:11.795 --> 00:49:14.525
I think he actually, uh, he's, he's been on the corporate side for a long time.

00:49:14.585 --> 00:49:14.974
Okay.

00:49:14.974 --> 00:49:21.005
Um, buying and selling loans among, and still does that, uh, and works for a company that now, uh, built their own algo.

00:49:21.065 --> 00:49:23.614
So he is a fake money trader instead of a fake money distributor.

00:49:23.675 --> 00:49:24.965
You know, I'll let him say that.

00:49:25.324 --> 00:49:30.605
Uh, but, uh, he's been in sales and account management for that kind of thing for a long time.

00:49:30.605 --> 00:49:31.684
My mom was an educator.

00:49:31.715 --> 00:49:32.735
She was an English teacher.

00:49:33.184 --> 00:49:33.275
Yeah.

00:49:33.275 --> 00:49:34.355
An elementary school teacher.

00:49:34.355 --> 00:49:36.695
And, um, I got a lot of that affinity from her.

00:49:36.755 --> 00:49:37.085
So

00:49:37.235 --> 00:49:45.184
I, uh, and this is a little bit of a sidebar, but the, you know, the a CA tax credits thing is a really big deal right now.

00:49:45.190 --> 00:49:45.260
Mm-hmm.

00:49:45.340 --> 00:49:50.074
And I'm sensitive to the notion that there's a lot of families in a tricky spot with it and stuff.

00:49:50.585 --> 00:50:04.655
And like, basically every dollar we spend on that program is we're borrowing it, creating more national debt and forcing mostly a lot of'em are young people that are healthy.

00:50:05.255 --> 00:50:12.065
To buy a product from insurance companies that are wealthy to not be penalized by our tax system for not having insurance.

00:50:15.934 --> 00:50:18.275
I mean, if it, it's, it's legit true.

00:50:18.335 --> 00:50:32.644
Like I'm just saying, we're, we're borrowing money to buy insurance for people that are, and, and a lot of people aren't healthy and a lot of people are, you know, not at all, uh, wealthy and not headed toward that or whatever.

00:50:32.675 --> 00:50:32.914
Sure.

00:50:32.945 --> 00:50:41.405
But, but a big portion, probably 70% of the spending is to subsidize premiums for people that are young and super healthy and will be for 10 years.

00:50:41.974 --> 00:50:44.315
Well, and there's fear of catastrophe.

00:50:44.494 --> 00:50:44.644
Right.

00:50:44.644 --> 00:50:45.005
Always.

00:50:45.034 --> 00:50:45.905
I would say that as myself.

00:50:45.905 --> 00:50:47.914
And so a big catastrophic person,

00:50:47.974 --> 00:50:56.644
a big catastrophic policy would really be better than something that covers every doctor's visit, every co-pays and all the, and all the administrative that's Yeah.

00:50:56.644 --> 00:50:57.454
Associated with it.

00:50:57.454 --> 00:50:58.324
Anyway, I'm just Yeah.

00:50:58.355 --> 00:50:58.775
Idea.

00:50:58.835 --> 00:51:01.925
'cause I don't like the fact that we're stuck on this bullshit spot in our government.

00:51:01.925 --> 00:51:02.074
Right.

00:51:02.074 --> 00:51:02.284
Now's uh,

00:51:02.795 --> 00:51:06.364
I think you and I share, you and I agree and disagree on a lot of different stuff.

00:51:06.364 --> 00:51:06.545
Totally.

00:51:06.574 --> 00:51:12.545
Uh, I think we share, uh, a cobel belief that things could be run better.

00:51:12.934 --> 00:51:16.985
We at the very least will always agree it could be better than it is.

00:51:17.014 --> 00:51:17.764
This can't be

00:51:17.764 --> 00:51:18.065
it.

00:51:18.065 --> 00:51:18.454
Sure.

00:51:18.485 --> 00:51:20.434
Um, and, and that it will never be utopia.

00:51:20.434 --> 00:51:20.614
Totally.

00:51:20.614 --> 00:51:21.724
I think we can also agree.

00:51:21.784 --> 00:51:22.025
Sure.

00:51:22.235 --> 00:51:23.885
But you had like a medical.

00:51:25.025 --> 00:51:27.215
Thing, like knock you outta soccer and into marketing.

00:51:27.215 --> 00:51:27.989
I did little bit and stuff.

00:51:28.090 --> 00:51:30.070
Are you comfortable talking about that on this forum?

00:51:30.250 --> 00:51:39.784
Um, I was, uh, headed into my, what, sophomore year of college, and, um, I was way, I was doped up on antihistamines.

00:51:40.054 --> 00:51:45.605
I was really, I was living in a dorm that had mold, like snorting the, um, well, yeah.

00:51:45.605 --> 00:51:46.594
Snorting'cause of the flow.

00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:47.510
Nail sprays, right.

00:51:48.425 --> 00:51:49.954
Just shooting up flow.

00:51:49.954 --> 00:51:52.565
Now I isn't that way.

00:51:52.565 --> 00:51:53.735
You shooting up Allegra?

00:51:54.094 --> 00:51:56.644
Uh, and Claritin D uh, yeah.

00:51:56.644 --> 00:52:06.125
No, I was, uh, I was in a building that had mold and I was having constant, um, allergy issues and then overmedicating and that led to high blood pressure.

00:52:06.514 --> 00:52:06.635
Oh, wow.

00:52:06.664 --> 00:52:08.045
Um, which led to panic.

00:52:08.434 --> 00:52:12.005
Uh, I was having in the middle of the night for months on end.

00:52:12.005 --> 00:52:12.065
Wow.

00:52:12.155 --> 00:52:16.144
I would have dreams that I was drowning or in a burning building or something where I could not breathe.

00:52:16.355 --> 00:52:16.804
Wow.

00:52:16.804 --> 00:52:17.735
I did not know this.

00:52:18.304 --> 00:52:19.625
And, and I hope, yeah,

00:52:19.894 --> 00:52:20.255
yeah.

00:52:20.255 --> 00:52:22.864
No, and, and all that to say.

00:52:22.864 --> 00:52:31.625
Then I had, uh, some something akin to a, a stroke or episode where I, you know, lost blood flow and lost a lot of feeling.

00:52:31.744 --> 00:52:36.844
Um, and they called it, uh, I had a doctor call it like portions of your body or, yeah.

00:52:36.844 --> 00:52:39.905
It felt like it was facing kind of a side of my body.

00:52:39.934 --> 00:52:40.385
Wow.

00:52:40.414 --> 00:52:42.664
Um, I had a good doctor called it a minor stroke.

00:52:42.664 --> 00:52:46.835
I had a doctor called it exertional syne, which basically means passing out from working out, which felt like

00:52:47.764 --> 00:52:49.414
that doesn't feel complete to what I

00:52:49.414 --> 00:52:50.074
experienced.

00:52:50.074 --> 00:52:50.135
Yeah.

00:52:50.494 --> 00:52:52.385
Uh, but the, the end of it was.

00:52:52.925 --> 00:52:57.335
We explored and went, oh wait, you're on how much a allergy medication.

00:52:57.364 --> 00:52:57.394
Oh.

00:52:57.605 --> 00:52:59.344
And, and it was basically salt.

00:52:59.344 --> 00:52:59.465
So you

00:52:59.465 --> 00:53:00.514
literal at poisoning yourself.

00:53:00.514 --> 00:53:01.085
It was salt.

00:53:01.385 --> 00:53:03.664
Um, but to avoid the symptoms from the mold.

00:53:04.025 --> 00:53:05.284
Totally, yes.

00:53:05.284 --> 00:53:05.795
Fascinating.

00:53:05.795 --> 00:53:08.914
And, uh, it was it black mold it, I, I guess, yeah.

00:53:09.034 --> 00:53:11.855
Um, they did do some remediation on the building, so worried about that.

00:53:11.945 --> 00:53:14.074
Regardless, like crazy.

00:53:14.074 --> 00:53:15.965
I, I was done, I was done playing soccer.

00:53:15.965 --> 00:53:18.755
It was kind of, it felt like a season change for me more than anything.

00:53:18.755 --> 00:53:19.985
I probably, I could have gone back.

00:53:20.014 --> 00:53:20.135
Yeah.

00:53:20.554 --> 00:53:27.844
Um, but it was more like, you know, guys, this was weird and I passed out on the track, you know, in spring training.

00:53:27.875 --> 00:53:28.264
Wow.

00:53:28.264 --> 00:53:30.724
Um, and couldn't, I couldn't speak Right.

00:53:30.724 --> 00:53:31.445
For days.

00:53:31.445 --> 00:53:31.985
Oh, oh damn.

00:53:32.045 --> 00:53:41.525
Um, and so, uh, made the decision to stop, but I took a job and then I worked two or three jobs the rest of college and Oh, right.

00:53:41.525 --> 00:53:42.755
'cause you didn't have a scholarship anymore.

00:53:42.784 --> 00:53:43.744
Um, it was awesome.

00:53:43.804 --> 00:53:44.675
It was not awesome.

00:53:45.545 --> 00:53:46.414
It was brutal.

00:53:46.414 --> 00:53:47.255
I'm sure I did.

00:53:47.255 --> 00:53:48.304
But at least you were healthier.

00:53:48.364 --> 00:53:50.974
I did the opening shift at Starbucks for many years.

00:53:51.005 --> 00:53:51.034
Okay.

00:53:51.244 --> 00:53:57.275
And then went to class, and then I went and took whatever job I could in the afternoon and then I bartended at night.

00:53:57.454 --> 00:53:57.934
Wow.

00:53:57.965 --> 00:54:00.335
Um, got home at two o'clock in the morning or something, and then

00:54:00.335 --> 00:54:02.105
turned around and did the Starbucks morning shift again.

00:54:02.164 --> 00:54:02.530
Damn, dude.

00:54:02.644 --> 00:54:03.724
Um, that was Starbucks

00:54:03.724 --> 00:54:05.135
morning shift opens at like 4:00 AM too.

00:54:05.135 --> 00:54:05.465
Oh, it was

00:54:05.465 --> 00:54:05.795
wild.

00:54:05.974 --> 00:54:06.275
Yeah.

00:54:06.485 --> 00:54:09.664
Uh, but then also, uh, I was, what, 18?

00:54:09.695 --> 00:54:11.405
No, not 18, I would've been 20.

00:54:11.885 --> 00:54:14.764
Uh, and took my first, uh, copywriting client.

00:54:14.945 --> 00:54:15.724
I was an English major.

00:54:15.875 --> 00:54:16.204
Okay.

00:54:16.445 --> 00:54:19.175
And, uh, I got a job.

00:54:19.625 --> 00:54:21.454
Writing copy for websites.

00:54:21.724 --> 00:54:25.505
And so I did that and then it was, Hey, you're pretty good at this.

00:54:25.505 --> 00:54:27.454
Do you wanna write some copy for our ads?

00:54:27.755 --> 00:54:27.934
Yeah.

00:54:28.025 --> 00:54:32.315
Uh, and this was early in the days of, uh, when they still call it Google AdWords, right?

00:54:32.344 --> 00:54:33.244
Google ad words.

00:54:33.244 --> 00:54:33.514
Yeah.

00:54:33.519 --> 00:54:33.969
Very sexy.

00:54:33.989 --> 00:54:43.474
And uh, uh, I then learned Google ad analytics and then I learned conversion rate optimization, and then I learned Facebook ads.

00:54:43.474 --> 00:54:44.195
Now Med ads.

00:54:44.195 --> 00:54:44.255
Yeah.

00:54:44.255 --> 00:54:48.664
And then all of a sudden I was running effectively a marketing agency for a couple of brands.

00:54:48.815 --> 00:54:49.114
Wow.

00:54:49.175 --> 00:54:54.605
Um, and so the rest of my way through college, I was basically a marketing consultant.

00:54:54.724 --> 00:55:00.364
Um, and didn't know what that would, would or could look like, but it led me into a career in marketing.

00:55:00.364 --> 00:55:04.985
And I always thought I was gonna live in the woods and write books and be an English major and interesting.

00:55:05.344 --> 00:55:07.835
Curl my beard and whatever else I was going to.

00:55:07.925 --> 00:55:08.914
You could still do that.

00:55:08.974 --> 00:55:10.775
Uh, I I could still do that.

00:55:10.835 --> 00:55:13.085
Uh, but this was, uh, a and still do

00:55:13.085 --> 00:55:15.244
marketing consulting while you're there in the woods these days.

00:55:15.244 --> 00:55:15.755
It's true.

00:55:15.755 --> 00:55:16.204
Which is nice.

00:55:16.204 --> 00:55:16.414
It's true.

00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:18.369
It's a starlink for 50 bucks a month.

00:55:18.570 --> 00:55:18.849
A starlink.

00:55:18.849 --> 00:55:18.860
Yeah.

00:55:18.860 --> 00:55:19.684
You get a lot done.

00:55:19.985 --> 00:55:20.585
Um, yeah.

00:55:20.614 --> 00:55:27.545
So let me ask you, because I do this kind of thing, but like, did you have aspirations?

00:55:27.815 --> 00:55:30.255
Was, was soccer expected for you to.

00:55:30.784 --> 00:55:31.925
Pay for your college.

00:55:31.925 --> 00:55:33.934
And that was about all the expectations you had of it?

00:55:33.965 --> 00:55:35.465
No, I wanted to go pro.

00:55:35.614 --> 00:55:35.885
You did?

00:55:35.885 --> 00:55:37.925
Um, I was, I played goalkeeper.

00:55:37.925 --> 00:55:39.304
I was always small for a goalkeeper.

00:55:39.304 --> 00:55:41.014
I'm just a hair over six foot.

00:55:41.074 --> 00:55:41.135
Yeah.

00:55:41.164 --> 00:55:48.244
Um, but uh, I'm spraying, I'm fast and yeah, I've got a few screws loose, um, as most everyone will tell me.

00:55:48.275 --> 00:55:49.414
Uh, and that's kinda what's needed.

00:55:49.894 --> 00:55:51.844
Um, so I was, I was playing at a high level.

00:55:51.844 --> 00:55:52.534
I wanted to do that.

00:55:52.594 --> 00:55:52.775
Yeah.

00:55:52.804 --> 00:55:53.885
Um, but it didn't work out.

00:55:53.885 --> 00:55:54.094
You fated

00:55:54.094 --> 00:55:54.844
yourself among them.

00:55:54.905 --> 00:55:55.775
Yeah, I did.

00:55:55.775 --> 00:55:57.605
So that was a big humbling for you, right?

00:55:57.605 --> 00:56:00.155
It was like one of your first big tastes of humble pie, I suppose.

00:56:00.425 --> 00:56:01.264
Humble pie.

00:56:01.264 --> 00:56:02.420
Humble pie, big time, humble pie.

00:56:02.420 --> 00:56:02.735
It's turning point in

00:56:02.735 --> 00:56:03.820
so many people's lives, you know?

00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:04.179
And

00:56:04.414 --> 00:56:07.594
you know, it was, it was that never taste good, but Oh, it was awful.

00:56:07.594 --> 00:56:07.835
Fuck as

00:56:07.835 --> 00:56:08.974
it nutritious

00:56:09.994 --> 00:56:10.385
man.

00:56:10.385 --> 00:56:12.244
And, and you know, when it rains it pours.

00:56:12.425 --> 00:56:13.655
It is real.

00:56:14.014 --> 00:56:20.105
Um, and so it was, it was that my high school girlfriend and I had gone long distance and we just broke up.

00:56:20.465 --> 00:56:21.644
Um, and brutal.

00:56:21.644 --> 00:56:27.094
And my grandma died and, you know, all this happened in like this span of a couple weeks.

00:56:27.125 --> 00:56:27.244
Yeah.

00:56:27.275 --> 00:56:28.264
And I was like, rock your

00:56:28.264 --> 00:56:30.065
world, blank canvas about what's ahead as, as

00:56:30.065 --> 00:56:35.704
an 18-year-old kid, you go, oh, I had my identity wrapped up in the things that I was doing.

00:56:35.824 --> 00:56:38.885
Not the person I was, um, or not the person that I am poetic.

00:56:39.005 --> 00:56:43.864
And, um, you know, looking back on it all feels silly, but at the time it's huge.

00:56:43.864 --> 00:56:46.835
It's incredibly formative to go through something hard.

00:56:46.835 --> 00:56:48.155
And so, um,

00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:48.219
yeah.

00:56:48.250 --> 00:56:49.594
Well, and for Ava.

00:56:49.985 --> 00:56:52.804
You know, she was wrapped up in dance in the same way.

00:56:52.804 --> 00:56:56.914
You know, she was a, an incredible young dancer and still are.

00:56:57.574 --> 00:57:01.324
Uh, I'm sure she shakes a leg when she gets the right amount of caveman.

00:57:01.324 --> 00:57:02.614
Jack Margarita in her.

00:57:02.614 --> 00:57:03.094
But we'll shake a

00:57:03.094 --> 00:57:04.954
leg, we'll do post podcast dance.

00:57:04.985 --> 00:57:08.315
But, um, but it is, it's earth shattering.

00:57:08.315 --> 00:57:09.094
I've never Yeah.

00:57:09.155 --> 00:57:09.454
Kind of.

00:57:09.905 --> 00:57:12.815
Well, I, I mean, I broke my leg a week before I graduated high school.

00:57:13.114 --> 00:57:19.835
I guess that, well, I got a DUI the week before, the night before I got my first job offer Sure.

00:57:19.954 --> 00:57:21.215
For my first big boy job.

00:57:21.215 --> 00:57:21.425
And that's

00:57:21.425 --> 00:57:23.014
gonna feel like earth shattering in the moment.

00:57:23.045 --> 00:57:23.224
Oh

00:57:23.224 --> 00:57:23.494
yeah.

00:57:23.494 --> 00:57:26.434
I mean, I was, I I was like, they're probably not gonna hire me now.

00:57:26.525 --> 00:57:27.105
Um, did they?

00:57:27.545 --> 00:57:27.905
They did.

00:57:27.969 --> 00:57:28.260
Okay.

00:57:28.260 --> 00:57:28.539
Yeah.

00:57:28.539 --> 00:57:28.550
'cause

00:57:28.835 --> 00:57:29.704
he was honest.

00:57:30.155 --> 00:57:31.295
I mean, it contributed.

00:57:31.505 --> 00:57:31.744
Yeah.

00:57:31.744 --> 00:57:31.894
Great.

00:57:32.045 --> 00:57:36.005
But then I had to move to Worthington, Minnesota with no car and no driver's license.

00:57:36.275 --> 00:57:39.934
My parents are dropping me off down there, like, here you go.

00:57:39.940 --> 00:57:40.139
Brutal.

00:57:40.289 --> 00:57:40.579
Yeah.

00:57:40.579 --> 00:57:41.980
I'll see you in a year, bitch.

00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:42.460
Oh yeah.

00:57:43.954 --> 00:57:44.525
That's awesome.

00:57:44.554 --> 00:57:51.125
Uh, no, I actually got my driver's license back like a few months, like two months, three months maybe before I moved to Fort Collins.

00:57:51.215 --> 00:57:51.394
Yeah.

00:57:51.574 --> 00:57:56.405
'cause I had one year basically in Worthington and then came out here and started Fresh Roots.

00:57:56.585 --> 00:57:56.764
Yeah.

00:57:56.945 --> 00:58:00.875
So anyway, um, I wanted to jump back into the podcast, uh, season.

00:58:01.054 --> 00:58:02.045
We'll come back to you do it.

00:58:02.824 --> 00:58:07.324
Um, but one of the first in July was Julian Farr,

00:58:07.954 --> 00:58:08.494
far

00:58:09.155 --> 00:58:16.085
our French immigrant, uh, business entrepreneur who has momentum counseling, consulting and consulting.

00:58:16.085 --> 00:58:16.355
Consulting.

00:58:16.355 --> 00:58:17.195
And, uh.

00:58:17.989 --> 00:58:29.210
We did the math during this interview and he, uh, he, you know, started his own practice, got full, hired somebody, started a company so he could hire somebody instead of just him.

00:58:30.139 --> 00:58:31.760
Hired somebody again, hired somebody again.

00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:36.679
And at, and four years in, he was at a hundred members or a hundred employees.

00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:41.000
So he hired two people every month on the average for four years.

00:58:41.809 --> 00:58:45.710
You said there was a better chance of you getting into Stanford than you,

00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:47.750
like what?

00:58:47.750 --> 00:58:48.650
Becoming an employee.

00:58:49.610 --> 00:58:49.880
Yeah.

00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:51.710
I mean, it's just hard to get into.

00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:54.980
Well, they're starving for employees in the counseling world because

00:58:56.179 --> 00:58:57.710
everybody wants to be, everybody's crazy.

00:58:57.769 --> 00:58:58.280
Well, and

00:58:58.909 --> 00:59:00.230
well, there's a mental health crisis growing.

00:59:00.260 --> 00:59:00.440
There

00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:07.219
is, and I think What percentage of mental health therapists currently do you think have a mental health problem?

00:59:09.139 --> 00:59:11.210
Like legitimately asking that question.

00:59:12.110 --> 00:59:15.739
'cause I think it's 40% based on anecdotal.

00:59:15.739 --> 00:59:16.010
It depends.

00:59:16.010 --> 00:59:16.795
And my own interactions.

00:59:16.824 --> 00:59:17.315
Depends

00:59:17.425 --> 00:59:25.400
what, like if they're millennials or like, like I feel like if millennials definitely have a higher chance of having Right.

00:59:25.489 --> 00:59:25.639
My

00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:25.969
telephone.

00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:28.230
So like new counselor coming in right now.

00:59:28.230 --> 00:59:28.239
Yeah.

00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:32.269
Well, my ex spouse, uh, was an LCSW, uh, mental healthcare worker.

00:59:32.269 --> 00:59:32.719
Jill, is that too?

00:59:32.750 --> 00:59:34.460
Um, and, um,

00:59:34.489 --> 00:59:36.710
well she's not a licensed, but she's a MSW.

00:59:36.710 --> 00:59:36.949
Yeah.

00:59:36.954 --> 00:59:37.155
Mm-hmm.

00:59:37.255 --> 00:59:40.610
Um, and uh, basically spoke of it like.

00:59:40.969 --> 00:59:44.510
Most people get into this because they need the help or they're very close with someone who needs help.

00:59:44.534 --> 00:59:44.824
Yeah.

00:59:44.989 --> 00:59:48.019
And um, which also sometimes requires help.

00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:52.610
And at the very least, yeah, it's traumatic to be that close to somebody that's having a crisis.

00:59:52.610 --> 00:59:53.539
And so it's gotta be hard.

00:59:54.949 --> 00:59:57.170
July was solid, not to deviate away.

00:59:57.170 --> 00:59:57.409
Keep going.

00:59:57.500 --> 01:00:16.010
Uh, but Bob Houston, the founder of Colorado Youth Outdoors, uh, Bob, another strong Christian personality, uh, but left his corporate Hawk thing to have found this janky nonprofit traveling show.

01:00:16.219 --> 01:00:18.739
Is Youth Outdoors officially a Christian organization or not?

01:00:18.769 --> 01:00:19.489
Not officially.

01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:19.699
Okay.

01:00:19.820 --> 01:00:20.179
No.

01:00:20.659 --> 01:00:23.090
Um, but Bob, but Bob, his purpose is I see.

01:00:23.090 --> 01:00:23.239
Yep.

01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:23.929
And he fairly

01:00:23.929 --> 01:00:26.090
public about his perspective on it or whatever.

01:00:26.090 --> 01:00:26.179
Sure.

01:00:26.630 --> 01:00:33.320
Um, and like he's a man that had a vision, wanted to make families and relationships stronger.

01:00:33.409 --> 01:00:35.090
And gosh, he's a neat guy.

01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:44.150
I recommend that highly, uh, episode 2 29, uh, for anybody that is interested in a strong relationship with their kids or elsewise.

01:00:44.750 --> 01:00:53.360
Um, Moses Horner, the next episode, which Bob gave Moses a shout out during his episode, I guess the Horners have been supporters of Colorado Youth Outdoors.

01:00:53.389 --> 01:00:53.599
Oh, cool.

01:00:53.960 --> 01:01:03.440
And we held our, our fall event, the Aim to Thrive event at the CYO facility, which is right now has the Christmas lights like crazy going on.

01:01:03.469 --> 01:01:04.130
Do you know this?

01:01:04.250 --> 01:01:04.940
Oh, I haven't seen that.

01:01:05.090 --> 01:01:05.480
Drive through.

01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:05.570
Oh

01:01:05.570 --> 01:01:05.960
dude.

01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:09.505
It's a drive through and they have the whole place lit up and it's amazing out there.

01:01:09.505 --> 01:01:09.704
Yeah.

01:01:10.670 --> 01:01:11.000
Yeah.

01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:17.300
So if you're looking for a cheap, cheap date night for your, you and your sweetie, you get some hot cocos and go drive through there.

01:01:17.329 --> 01:01:18.019
Something like that.

01:01:18.125 --> 01:01:20.030
Oh, how, oh my gosh, that's amazing.

01:01:20.059 --> 01:01:20.269
Yeah,

01:01:20.269 --> 01:01:20.960
it's beautiful.

01:01:21.065 --> 01:01:21.704
I was gonna That's

01:01:21.704 --> 01:01:21.905
crazy.

01:01:22.775 --> 01:01:24.769
It's like in another world all over the whole property.

01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:25.280
Oh yeah.

01:01:25.849 --> 01:01:25.940
What?

01:01:25.940 --> 01:01:26.869
Yeah, it's like another world.

01:01:26.869 --> 01:01:27.650
It's like a winter, winter night.

01:01:27.650 --> 01:01:29.449
Do you remember how many acres that property is?

01:01:29.690 --> 01:01:30.889
It was in the triple digits.

01:01:31.070 --> 01:01:31.099
Oh

01:01:31.099 --> 01:01:31.579
yeah.

01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:34.699
Maybe like pretty close to a quarter, like 140 acres or something.

01:01:34.704 --> 01:01:35.030
Something like that.

01:01:35.030 --> 01:01:38.000
And most of it's can't be developed, but the, the headquarters can.

01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:38.059
Yeah.

01:01:38.090 --> 01:01:38.659
It's really pretty.

01:01:38.900 --> 01:01:39.260
So

01:01:39.289 --> 01:01:40.250
why can't it be developed?

01:01:41.150 --> 01:01:41.449
Zoning?

01:01:41.539 --> 01:01:45.260
There was like a conservation easement as well as like the flood.

01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:45.769
Flood plain.

01:01:45.860 --> 01:01:49.610
Yeah, because they got all these lakes, they got all these gravel lakes and so you can't build there.

01:01:49.610 --> 01:01:55.400
But, but the part they had to raise money for and acquire is where the headquarters headquarters, because that's like the high ground.

01:01:55.400 --> 01:02:02.599
That was where they gonna put like, it should have been like 14 estate lots instead for fancy people's houses surrounded by lakes.

01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:05.750
But instead it's a youth facility, which is so much better.

01:02:05.780 --> 01:02:06.380
So much better.

01:02:06.380 --> 01:02:10.385
I was gonna say rather that than a bunch of apartments, the female wealthy people can find their other place.

01:02:10.385 --> 01:02:10.585
Yeah.

01:02:10.585 --> 01:02:10.744
Yeah.

01:02:12.364 --> 01:02:18.260
So, so anyway, Moses Horner top, uh, topnotch company thanks to in town.

01:02:18.260 --> 01:02:25.340
Maximizer, local facilitator, local facilitator friend, longtime member friend, great member of the community.

01:02:25.579 --> 01:02:26.179
He really is.

01:02:26.179 --> 01:02:26.900
Guy Moses is awesome.

01:02:27.050 --> 01:02:33.019
And, and Sarah's, uh, out there being one of the highest performing group real estate agents.

01:02:33.019 --> 01:02:33.230
Yeah.

01:02:33.320 --> 01:02:33.829
As well.

01:02:33.829 --> 01:02:36.170
That's part of, I like to share that story occasionally, like.

01:02:36.710 --> 01:02:51.530
She was kind of the bookkeeping slave to, to Horner painting when, when Moses I and admittedly so kind of like, and then he got really good at finances and managing and overseeing and building controls partly through his local membership.

01:02:51.530 --> 01:02:56.179
And that allowed her to get out the basement and be in the bookkeeper and go be a real estate agent instead.

01:02:56.719 --> 01:02:57.050
Yeah.

01:02:57.139 --> 01:03:04.969
And so now he can hire a bookkeeper for X and she can make five XA real estate agent.

01:03:04.969 --> 01:03:05.449
They're crushing.

01:03:05.539 --> 01:03:06.079
Yes.

01:03:06.289 --> 01:03:07.639
Well he does owe it all low code.

01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:08.659
He should probably cut my rent.

01:03:08.989 --> 01:03:11.300
Uh, but anyway, hope you don't listen to this.

01:03:11.300 --> 01:03:11.690
Moses.

01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:12.440
Love you.

01:03:14.635 --> 01:03:15.769
Do you remember that one?

01:03:16.190 --> 01:03:22.250
Uh, probably You do remember this next one with Brian and, um, Mary McKnight?

01:03:22.849 --> 01:03:23.360
Yeah.

01:03:23.449 --> 01:03:24.139
The, uh, turf.

01:03:24.144 --> 01:03:24.590
Turf Tamers.

01:03:24.590 --> 01:03:25.099
Chilean.

01:03:25.099 --> 01:03:25.909
Patagonia.

01:03:26.989 --> 01:03:27.650
Oh yeah.

01:03:27.710 --> 01:03:28.760
The owners of Turf Tamers.

01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:33.559
But we spent like the first 40 minutes talking about their property in Chile, which was part of their love story.

01:03:33.860 --> 01:03:34.250
Leave that.

01:03:34.250 --> 01:03:34.670
They're there

01:03:34.670 --> 01:03:35.059
now.

01:03:35.449 --> 01:03:36.469
They are in Chile right now.

01:03:36.469 --> 01:03:36.650
Yeah.

01:03:36.650 --> 01:03:39.860
Brian's on leave of absence so that he can go be in Chile for two.

01:03:39.860 --> 01:03:40.460
And he did not

01:03:40.460 --> 01:03:42.739
invite me to come fish without he actually Brutal.

01:03:43.489 --> 01:03:44.900
But I expect that next time.

01:03:44.900 --> 01:03:52.969
He's told me that if, when Jill and I go down to,'cause we wanna go to Brazil, but I figure if I'm gonna Brazil, I might as well like take a road trip to California.

01:03:52.969 --> 01:03:53.030
Yeah.

01:03:53.030 --> 01:03:53.239
Oh sure.

01:03:53.355 --> 01:03:56.630
It's just around the corner, 2300 miles away.

01:03:57.679 --> 01:03:59.510
It's like taking a quick drive to Michigan from here.

01:03:59.539 --> 01:03:59.900
Yeah.

01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:00.769
More like.

01:04:03.425 --> 01:04:05.704
But No, that is, that's really lovely.

01:04:05.735 --> 01:04:05.885
Yeah.

01:04:05.885 --> 01:04:06.409
It's gonna be awesome.

01:04:06.545 --> 01:04:13.025
But I do, I do expect, definitely before I die, I hope to be at their property in Patagonia at least twice like I wanna go.

01:04:13.054 --> 01:04:13.804
That would be something else.

01:04:13.804 --> 01:04:14.014
And then

01:04:14.014 --> 01:04:14.795
I want to go back.

01:04:14.855 --> 01:04:15.545
Corporate retreat.

01:04:16.385 --> 01:04:16.925
Yeah.

01:04:18.574 --> 01:04:21.875
Paid like, not a memory retreat.

01:04:21.875 --> 01:04:22.594
You can just come.

01:04:22.594 --> 01:04:24.784
We're like every have to, but yeah.

01:04:24.784 --> 01:04:27.034
That well paid for staff perhaps.

01:04:27.034 --> 01:04:27.844
But that's, that's all I meant.

01:04:27.905 --> 01:04:35.195
But if we could have our members come down there for a retreat Oh, and they all get to write it off like that seems like it would be I'm into it.

01:04:35.764 --> 01:04:36.244
Sellable.

01:04:36.425 --> 01:04:36.844
I'm into it.

01:04:37.474 --> 01:04:46.864
So, um, while we're back here in Chicago, there's a particular UR Yes.

01:04:46.864 --> 01:04:51.304
That you've been, it's time like talking about getting into the podcast.

01:04:51.485 --> 01:04:52.414
Yes.

01:04:53.434 --> 01:04:53.914
What is it?

01:04:53.974 --> 01:04:54.454
The real

01:04:54.454 --> 01:04:55.324
ones know.

01:04:56.585 --> 01:04:58.804
Mallor, the ones know is what

01:04:58.804 --> 01:04:58.894
you were talking about.

01:04:58.925 --> 01:04:59.974
That's like disgusting.

01:05:00.364 --> 01:05:01.385
No, it's amazing.

01:05:02.525 --> 01:05:03.454
Jepson's my Lord.

01:05:03.454 --> 01:05:07.474
And I saved the dregs of my last bottle for you, for you guys.

01:05:07.594 --> 01:05:08.405
This is the very last Hey,

01:05:08.405 --> 01:05:12.304
is you're talking about during, during, um, tour of Fat?

01:05:12.514 --> 01:05:12.875
No.

01:05:12.875 --> 01:05:13.804
No, not at all.

01:05:13.804 --> 01:05:15.695
No, this is, this is a classic LA liquid.

01:05:15.695 --> 01:05:15.755
Whoa.

01:05:16.835 --> 01:05:17.135
What is it?

01:05:17.135 --> 01:05:17.405
We're

01:05:17.405 --> 01:05:18.485
just gonna do Little sip.

01:05:18.815 --> 01:05:22.144
There's not even like a third of a shot of each of these in there, so don't be scared.

01:05:22.144 --> 01:05:22.414
David.

01:05:22.420 --> 01:05:22.894
You're you're right.

01:05:22.954 --> 01:05:23.644
It's gonna be fine.

01:05:23.650 --> 01:05:23.949
I'm scared.

01:05:24.409 --> 01:05:27.065
Um, but yeah, I'm imagining it kind of like, so

01:05:27.844 --> 01:05:30.110
Mylo was, is.

01:05:31.059 --> 01:05:32.644
I'm just famous across Chicago.

01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:33.125
There's, there's

01:05:33.125 --> 01:05:33.425
enough.

01:05:33.425 --> 01:05:34.804
There's more in there than I thought.

01:05:35.195 --> 01:05:42.184
Um, yeah, no, we're, uh, I'm gonna be nice to, with my poor, um Oh good.

01:05:42.545 --> 01:05:47.105
You know, I'll, I'll just read you the bottle because there, it, it, it speaks for itself.

01:05:47.585 --> 01:05:48.304
Mallor fragment, I

01:05:48.304 --> 01:05:49.969
got full body Chills, has, has the

01:05:49.969 --> 01:05:54.905
aroma of a full-bodied flavor of an unusual botanical.

01:05:55.474 --> 01:05:58.534
Its bitter tastes is savored by two fisted drinkers.

01:05:58.954 --> 01:05:59.375
Oh gosh.

01:05:59.764 --> 01:06:03.454
Um, and is a staple of Chicago, Chicago flag.

01:06:03.485 --> 01:06:06.005
Uh, and, uh, usually how much type of liquor is it?

01:06:06.034 --> 01:06:13.505
Uh, it's made of, uh, wormwood and other weird roots and things that you would not normally make into liquor.

01:06:13.505 --> 01:06:14.764
Not shouldn't distill this.

01:06:14.764 --> 01:06:23.284
Um, but I, I will say the tradition is okay, you take a shot of my Lord, and then you have to say, I'll have another.

01:06:24.364 --> 01:06:26.494
I'm not, it's not gonna go because you'll

01:06:26.494 --> 01:06:27.094
want to.

01:06:27.755 --> 01:06:28.835
Um, but that's how it goes.

01:06:29.824 --> 01:06:30.244
Cheers.

01:06:30.250 --> 01:06:30.519
Okay.

01:06:34.534 --> 01:06:36.724
I'll have another, I'll have another, I'll have another.

01:06:37.295 --> 01:06:37.684
Will you?

01:06:39.065 --> 01:06:39.605
I could.

01:06:40.925 --> 01:06:41.045
Oh God.

01:06:41.045 --> 01:06:41.974
It stays with you though.

01:06:42.184 --> 01:06:42.635
Oh God.

01:06:42.635 --> 01:06:45.454
And honestly, this is probably my 50th.

01:06:45.949 --> 01:06:47.295
It doesn't, doesn't go

01:06:47.295 --> 01:06:47.454
away.

01:06:48.530 --> 01:06:52.460
And the more that you have it, yeah, the more pleasant I kind of, it is.

01:06:52.460 --> 01:06:57.139
So there was a season in my life I this time feel this tastes like bourbon to me.

01:06:57.289 --> 01:07:01.670
Suddenly it does not, it, it tastes like cough syrup, but wor so much worse.

01:07:01.670 --> 01:07:02.000
This might

01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:04.340
be the key to my handling of spice

01:07:05.179 --> 01:07:05.539
maybe,

01:07:05.539 --> 01:07:07.429
is that I've just burnt my taste buds off.

01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:08.389
Oh, maybe.

01:07:08.539 --> 01:07:10.974
Um, but yeah, that'll put hair on your chest for sure.

01:07:10.974 --> 01:07:11.300
It reminds

01:07:11.300 --> 01:07:16.070
me of, and it's not nearly as bad, but Jagermeister

01:07:16.429 --> 01:07:18.920
Yeah, it's, that's what I, that that was the first thing I got from, it's got some of

01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:21.199
that kind of, uh, what, what's the cough drop?

01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:22.255
The re ricola.

01:07:23.125 --> 01:07:23.414
Yeah.

01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:25.775
That's a rele of tone's going on in there.

01:07:25.775 --> 01:07:25.934
Yeah.

01:07:25.934 --> 01:07:26.054
And

01:07:26.054 --> 01:07:27.409
it just stays with you.

01:07:27.414 --> 01:07:28.775
It does not go away long time.

01:07:28.969 --> 01:07:30.019
It will not really like bad

01:07:30.019 --> 01:07:32.630
medicine like Bon Jovi bad medicine.

01:07:32.659 --> 01:07:33.949
Like it doesn't hang with you

01:07:35.235 --> 01:07:35.454
bad.

01:07:36.769 --> 01:07:37.219
Yeah.

01:07:37.250 --> 01:07:39.059
That's what it tastes like to me is really it.

01:07:39.059 --> 01:07:39.094
Stick going

01:07:39.139 --> 01:07:40.219
the back your tongue,

01:07:40.489 --> 01:07:44.239
like what was bad medicine and then sat in a drawer for 10 years.

01:07:45.349 --> 01:07:51.980
I really, my entire like actually like makes like chest tell you is this like absent or something weird?

01:07:52.699 --> 01:07:53.329
Freak her out.

01:07:53.570 --> 01:07:53.989
Not at all.

01:07:53.989 --> 01:07:54.860
Start crappy flop.

01:07:54.860 --> 01:08:00.500
I felt this exact way, like the first several times that I had, and I gotta tell you guys, I, this was, this time was delicious.

01:08:00.530 --> 01:08:03.650
I'm actually intrigued because of my, that's so weird.

01:08:03.739 --> 01:08:12.739
And not an like, so the restaurant I first worked at when I, so when I got a DUI, here you go at college, my dad was like, well you're gonna have to start paying your own insurance now.

01:08:13.099 --> 01:08:15.739
And so I had to get a job and so I worked at the Grainery restaurant.

01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:20.149
Like around grownup kids ish for the first time in my life.

01:08:20.149 --> 01:08:20.239
Sure.

01:08:20.810 --> 01:08:25.189
And they all had a, a taste for Jagermeister.

01:08:25.369 --> 01:08:25.579
Yeah.

01:08:25.729 --> 01:08:26.300
Yuck.

01:08:26.689 --> 01:08:34.069
And after like two years of working there, it kind of got to the point where if somebody would say Jagermeister, I would start salivating kind of.

01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:35.449
Oh, like Pavlov?

01:08:36.170 --> 01:08:36.829
Yes.

01:08:37.310 --> 01:08:37.670
Interesting.

01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:42.350
And like, I've pushed back against that and my wife hates Jagermeister.

01:08:42.350 --> 01:08:47.810
But even still today, like there's small, how do you hate a small instinct to like salivate?

01:08:47.930 --> 01:08:49.189
When I hear the word Jagermeister, everybody

01:08:49.189 --> 01:08:50.029
has the liquor.

01:08:50.029 --> 01:08:53.569
Well, not everybody, A lot of people have the liquor that will make them sick.

01:08:54.020 --> 01:08:54.260
Yeah.

01:08:54.289 --> 01:08:54.649
Right.

01:08:54.949 --> 01:08:58.354
Uh, I had that bad experience with lot people stick I table at Pizza Hut

01:08:58.359 --> 01:08:59.270
with, with vodka.

01:08:59.510 --> 01:09:00.770
Uh, you did?

01:09:00.854 --> 01:09:01.640
Oh, oh yeah.

01:09:01.670 --> 01:09:05.779
Like 17 with a half a bottle of vodka in my belly, you know?

01:09:05.784 --> 01:09:05.875
Yeah.

01:09:05.895 --> 01:09:06.114
Oh

01:09:06.114 --> 01:09:07.310
wait, yeah.

01:09:07.310 --> 01:09:07.489
Top that.

01:09:07.489 --> 01:09:08.060
It wasn't good.

01:09:08.149 --> 01:09:08.449
Yeah.

01:09:08.465 --> 01:09:08.755
Yeah.

01:09:09.289 --> 01:09:11.390
So, but, so I don't really prefer vodka.

01:09:11.510 --> 01:09:11.750
Sure.

01:09:11.899 --> 01:09:18.350
Like, I know it's a beautiful empty spirit that you can just add to other flavors, but like, it's just too deceptive for me.

01:09:18.350 --> 01:09:20.210
It's a, it's a sneaky, it's like a spot.

01:09:20.210 --> 01:09:20.869
It's so sneaky.

01:09:20.960 --> 01:09:21.380
Yeah.

01:09:21.619 --> 01:09:22.550
Tequila's not sneaky at all.

01:09:23.090 --> 01:09:23.960
You taste it in everything.

01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:24.229
Yeah.

01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:27.140
And so you can't sneak a bunch of tequila past your taste buds.

01:09:27.140 --> 01:09:27.529
They're like.

01:09:28.609 --> 01:09:29.479
Stop this.

01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:29.930
Definitely.

01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:32.659
Beloit has that going for it.

01:09:32.664 --> 01:09:32.895
It's weird.

01:09:32.899 --> 01:09:34.640
Like you won't accidentally get drunk on Beloit.

01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:35.810
How strong is that?

01:09:35.810 --> 01:09:36.590
Shit, it's 35.

01:09:36.590 --> 01:09:37.340
It's 35.

01:09:37.340 --> 01:09:38.090
Which, which is not it's

01:09:38.095 --> 01:09:39.050
percent or proof.

01:09:39.055 --> 01:09:40.135
30% percent.

01:09:40.135 --> 01:09:40.375
Okay.

01:09:40.375 --> 01:09:40.814
70 proof.

01:09:40.814 --> 01:09:41.000
So it's still

01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:41.720
pretty strong.

01:09:41.779 --> 01:09:41.840
Yeah.

01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:48.680
But there's nothing on this bottle that says what it is besides the flavor of they don't know Unusual botanical.

01:09:48.710 --> 01:09:48.920
Yeah.

01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:49.100
No.

01:09:49.100 --> 01:09:50.029
And it is unusual.

01:09:50.270 --> 01:09:51.199
But what is it?

01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:51.800
Like what?

01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:53.300
It's mallor.

01:09:53.659 --> 01:09:54.199
Don't worry

01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:54.439
about

01:09:54.439 --> 01:09:54.590
it.

01:09:54.614 --> 01:09:55.095
I hate it.

01:09:55.579 --> 01:09:56.329
I never wanna, don't worry

01:09:56.329 --> 01:09:56.779
about it.

01:09:57.050 --> 01:10:02.689
Uh, they have the best social media marketing of any company if you wanna learn.

01:10:02.689 --> 01:10:05.659
So social media marketing, Lord, go to the mallor social media.

01:10:06.095 --> 01:10:07.310
I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go.

01:10:07.310 --> 01:10:08.989
Because they just lean into the fact that

01:10:09.140 --> 01:10:09.710
nobody likes

01:10:09.710 --> 01:10:09.770
it.

01:10:09.770 --> 01:10:10.340
Nobody likes it.

01:10:10.340 --> 01:10:10.670
Yeah.

01:10:10.675 --> 01:10:11.095
That's smart.

01:10:11.329 --> 01:10:12.289
But people keep buying it.

01:10:12.409 --> 01:10:15.229
Oh, I've got a Malor Christmas tree ornament.

01:10:15.710 --> 01:10:19.609
Uh, the mal ornament, um, was the gift set last year.

01:10:19.699 --> 01:10:21.140
You, they came with the bottle.

01:10:21.710 --> 01:10:22.340
Um,

01:10:22.430 --> 01:10:24.170
you were talking about this with Tour de Fat.

01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:26.420
'cause you said that you had a bottle of it.

01:10:26.479 --> 01:10:27.390
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:27.390 --> 01:10:27.399
Okay.

01:10:27.404 --> 01:10:28.640
That, that's the leftover

01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:29.329
from two to Fat.

01:10:29.420 --> 01:10:33.949
I put that in the bottle cage of my bike, biked around for two to fat and just handed it to strangers.

01:10:33.979 --> 01:10:34.340
Yeah.

01:10:34.369 --> 01:10:35.119
'cause I remember you saying that.

01:10:35.125 --> 01:10:35.359
And my

01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:37.255
favorite was, there was a shirtless gentleman that said.

01:10:38.944 --> 01:10:39.604
Is that my Lord.

01:10:39.729 --> 01:10:39.850
I

01:10:39.850 --> 01:10:41.675
said, and he said, I need some.

01:10:41.975 --> 01:10:45.604
He said, you son of a bitch, gimme that.

01:10:46.414 --> 01:10:47.529
No ways are you giving that.

01:10:47.529 --> 01:10:50.104
And then he took some and then he went, I hate you.

01:10:51.454 --> 01:10:52.515
And then he said, thank you.

01:10:52.750 --> 01:10:54.409
And gave it back to that's it.

01:10:54.409 --> 01:10:54.569
Yeah.

01:10:54.569 --> 01:10:56.555
You know, he got, that's a whole culture is itself.

01:10:56.555 --> 01:10:57.364
He understood the sentiment.

01:10:57.364 --> 01:10:59.375
They've started a movement, spirit of the spirit.

01:10:59.375 --> 01:10:59.824
That's, you

01:10:59.824 --> 01:11:03.095
know, ultimately the long term goal of the local think tank.

01:11:03.095 --> 01:11:06.364
I'll have another and the local experience and, and you know, we want have a movement here.

01:11:06.364 --> 01:11:06.574
Please

01:11:06.574 --> 01:11:06.845
sir.

01:11:06.845 --> 01:11:07.295
May I have

01:11:07.295 --> 01:11:11.255
another, the September 6th episode.

01:11:11.555 --> 01:11:11.614
Ooh.

01:11:11.645 --> 01:11:13.354
With Roxy Tines.

01:11:13.354 --> 01:11:13.864
Roxanne.

01:11:13.864 --> 01:11:14.194
I love Roxy.

01:11:14.220 --> 01:11:14.890
Isn't she amazing?

01:11:14.890 --> 01:11:17.854
Roxanne and another spirit led lady.

01:11:18.725 --> 01:11:20.914
Just saying, I think everybody comes on the podcast

01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:21.449
is a Christian.

01:11:21.750 --> 01:11:22.890
No, not even half.

01:11:22.890 --> 01:11:23.135
I feel like

01:11:23.135 --> 01:11:23.765
I'd say

01:11:24.244 --> 01:11:24.935
not even half.

01:11:24.965 --> 01:11:25.414
Totally.

01:11:25.414 --> 01:11:25.595
Half.

01:11:25.595 --> 01:11:26.314
We'll tally it up.

01:11:27.034 --> 01:11:27.369
We'll tally half.

01:11:27.395 --> 01:11:27.664
It's a hundred

01:11:27.664 --> 01:11:28.145
percent half.

01:11:28.715 --> 01:11:29.324
Way more than half.

01:11:29.324 --> 01:11:30.090
We'll tally it up in the half.

01:11:30.220 --> 01:11:32.074
We'll D it's way more than half.

01:11:32.074 --> 01:11:32.135
We're

01:11:32.135 --> 01:11:33.454
gonna have to ask a bunch of'em.

01:11:33.515 --> 01:11:34.515
'cause I haven't half I think about this.

01:11:34.515 --> 01:11:35.194
Asked a lot of'em.

01:11:36.454 --> 01:11:38.854
And then Kurt will decide who the real ones are and who the fuck.

01:11:39.574 --> 01:11:40.145
Totally.

01:11:40.505 --> 01:11:41.225
I love that game.

01:11:41.404 --> 01:11:41.494
Suck.

01:11:41.494 --> 01:11:42.664
It's a such a fun game.

01:11:42.965 --> 01:11:46.534
I, we'll walk through it and then Kyle speller.

01:11:46.564 --> 01:11:47.284
Kyle Speller.

01:11:47.314 --> 01:11:50.944
But I do want to, you know, everybody should listen to 2 36 Roxy Tins.

01:11:50.944 --> 01:11:52.444
She is an amazing gal.

01:11:52.444 --> 01:11:54.904
She started the Safe Families for Children.

01:11:54.965 --> 01:11:55.175
Yeah.

01:11:55.414 --> 01:12:02.885
Chapter here locally and gosh, just like, worked an extra whole job for years Yeah.

01:12:02.914 --> 01:12:06.515
To get her thing launched with, you know, in a, in a.

01:12:07.430 --> 01:12:10.489
Basically a child or a, a social work job.

01:12:10.489 --> 01:12:10.550
Yeah.

01:12:10.609 --> 01:12:11.270
As her main job.

01:12:11.270 --> 01:12:13.819
So she already like it's one thing to work two jobs.

01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:14.659
Yeah.

01:12:14.659 --> 01:12:14.810
But

01:12:14.869 --> 01:12:16.609
when you've got some extra of those is social work.

01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:17.239
Right.

01:12:17.239 --> 01:12:18.704
And just, I dunno, she's a boss lady.

01:12:18.704 --> 01:12:19.130
She's a joy.

01:12:19.189 --> 01:12:19.520
It's hard.

01:12:19.939 --> 01:12:22.699
Kyle Speller also in September.

01:12:22.699 --> 01:12:24.829
And then, oh wait.

01:12:24.829 --> 01:12:27.289
One more worth mentioning Clint Jesperson.

01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:28.399
'cause I just talked to him today.

01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:28.550
Clint,

01:12:28.699 --> 01:12:29.720
shout out Thrivent.

01:12:29.750 --> 01:12:30.680
Shout out to Thrivent.

01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:32.329
Our sponsor, well not Thrivent.

01:12:32.569 --> 01:12:33.260
Insert a break here.

01:12:33.289 --> 01:12:34.729
Purpose Driven wealth.

01:12:34.734 --> 01:12:36.470
Purpose wealth C and uh, an

01:12:36.500 --> 01:12:38.060
awesome actual Christian.

01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:38.869
Yes.

01:12:39.170 --> 01:12:40.784
He is an'cause you know that he's

01:12:40.814 --> 01:12:41.104
also

01:12:42.404 --> 01:12:44.930
but crazily, so he was telling me that was funny.

01:12:44.930 --> 01:12:45.829
A couple things.

01:12:46.430 --> 01:12:53.539
Um, and I can talk about what I want to, but he didn't put a bunch of our stuff out from that conversation on his social medias like he planned to and stuff.

01:12:53.539 --> 01:12:58.579
'cause they were like, Hey, you know, we don't want you to release this on your social media channels.

01:12:58.579 --> 01:12:58.640
Yeah.

01:12:58.670 --> 01:13:00.979
Because you talked about investment stuff.

01:13:00.979 --> 01:13:03.079
And he is like, no, I didn't tell me what I did.

01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:06.350
And they're like, Hey, okay.

01:13:06.350 --> 01:13:06.829
You're right.

01:13:07.369 --> 01:13:11.510
It wasn't that, but it was, uh, something else, whatever.

01:13:11.989 --> 01:13:17.824
And then, um, oh,'cause he talked about like TA having taken mushrooms and ke Yeah.

01:13:17.829 --> 01:13:22.279
And stuff and uh, kind of a counseling fashion and kind of a reset thing.

01:13:22.279 --> 01:13:22.609
Yeah.

01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:26.720
And he is like, but that doesn't, I, I followed all your rules on this and whatever.

01:13:27.109 --> 01:13:31.760
And then, hey, we didn't like what Kurt said about this other one thing.

01:13:32.300 --> 01:13:32.930
And Clint was like.

01:13:34.475 --> 01:13:34.954
Fuck off.

01:13:35.135 --> 01:13:36.305
Like you can't What?

01:13:36.305 --> 01:13:37.085
Control Kurt's.

01:13:37.085 --> 01:13:37.175
What?

01:13:37.180 --> 01:13:37.470
What did you say?

01:13:37.470 --> 01:13:38.135
I don't know what I said.

01:13:38.135 --> 01:13:39.784
Even like, it doesn't really matter.

01:13:40.324 --> 01:13:40.534
Use your

01:13:40.534 --> 01:13:41.255
imagination.

01:13:41.255 --> 01:13:41.494
It

01:13:41.494 --> 01:13:41.704
does.

01:13:41.704 --> 01:13:45.545
I mean, but, but they were like, well, you have to censor Kurt now.

01:13:46.234 --> 01:13:57.904
And so anyway, he re-upped for sponsorship all next year and he's like in an existential crisis with Thrivent, which was the Lutheran kind of membership, brotherhood, financial services organization for years.

01:13:57.935 --> 01:13:58.444
Oh, I didn't know that.

01:13:58.444 --> 01:13:58.564
Really?

01:13:58.564 --> 01:14:07.685
But now they're Lutheran in his perception, they're like kind of taken over by a bunch of left wing non-Christians as their god for leadership team.

01:14:08.194 --> 01:14:08.375
Hmm.

01:14:08.614 --> 01:14:08.795
Yeah.

01:14:08.795 --> 01:14:17.854
Well, I mean, frankly for, for a organization that is founded on Christian principles, for them to be taken over by non-Christian left wingers is kind of weird.

01:14:17.885 --> 01:14:18.319
Like it's, or at the

01:14:18.319 --> 01:14:19.925
very least if that's not where he's feeling

01:14:20.135 --> 01:14:20.614
Right.

01:14:20.765 --> 01:14:22.234
And so he is figuring it out.

01:14:22.265 --> 01:14:24.935
Figuring if he's gonna be long term.

01:14:25.145 --> 01:14:25.385
Okay.

01:14:25.595 --> 01:14:25.805
Sorry.

01:14:26.015 --> 01:14:26.585
With him and stuff.

01:14:26.734 --> 01:14:27.005
Interesting.

01:14:27.005 --> 01:14:27.664
It's pretty wild.

01:14:27.694 --> 01:14:28.414
It's very interesting.

01:14:28.414 --> 01:14:28.625
Yeah.

01:14:28.625 --> 01:14:33.935
And not just Billy's beans, but whatever thriving if you're listening to this kind of fuck off and fly.

01:14:33.935 --> 01:14:34.265
Right.

01:14:34.295 --> 01:14:35.765
'cause he's a legit fly, right.

01:14:35.765 --> 01:14:42.545
Honest guy that will talk and also believes like me, that free speech is one of the most important.

01:14:42.725 --> 01:14:44.135
That's why it's the First amendment.

01:14:44.614 --> 01:14:45.215
Bitches.

01:14:45.755 --> 01:14:48.244
Like also just a proper light in the community kind of.

01:14:48.250 --> 01:14:48.310
Yeah.

01:14:48.310 --> 01:14:48.869
Super good steward.

01:14:48.869 --> 01:14:49.685
Good guy of people's money.

01:14:49.715 --> 01:14:49.925
Yep.

01:14:49.954 --> 01:14:50.135
Yeah.

01:14:50.435 --> 01:14:50.944
Oh, super.

01:14:50.944 --> 01:14:53.255
He's super talented at everything Financial.

01:14:53.404 --> 01:14:53.704
Go Clint.

01:14:53.704 --> 01:14:54.545
So anyway, there's Clint.

01:14:55.024 --> 01:14:56.789
So not to spill his beans on live.

01:14:56.979 --> 01:14:57.590
Shut up Clint.

01:14:57.590 --> 01:14:58.954
But I think it's actually the right thing.

01:14:59.225 --> 01:15:02.734
And then bonus episode number one.

01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:04.189
With Shirley Peele.

01:15:04.220 --> 01:15:04.399
Oh yeah.

01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:05.300
Shirley

01:15:05.324 --> 01:15:05.814
Shirley.

01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:08.840
Uh, candidate for Fort Collins Mayor.

01:15:08.899 --> 01:15:12.649
Collaboration with Old Town Spice Shop and

01:15:12.859 --> 01:15:13.489
Matador

01:15:13.489 --> 01:15:14.659
Matador Mexican Grill.

01:15:14.869 --> 01:15:19.279
And I just, uh, proposed, um,

01:15:19.579 --> 01:15:20.060
yes, a

01:15:20.060 --> 01:15:22.159
new flavor for our hot sauce.

01:15:22.189 --> 01:15:23.720
'cause we've had the smoking margarita.

01:15:23.779 --> 01:15:23.930
Yeah.

01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:25.250
Hot sauce for, for quite some time.

01:15:25.255 --> 01:15:25.824
How, when

01:15:25.824 --> 01:15:26.600
did you come out with that?

01:15:26.750 --> 01:15:28.010
Probably three seasons ago.

01:15:28.010 --> 01:15:31.130
Two, two and a half seasons ago with, uh, Zoe's kitchen.

01:15:31.250 --> 01:15:31.640
Great.

01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:34.970
It's good, but it isn't crazy.

01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:35.810
I want Ola.

01:15:35.810 --> 01:15:37.220
It's not a crazy experience.

01:15:37.279 --> 01:15:37.670
Ola.

01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:39.185
I want to be official local.

01:15:39.574 --> 01:15:40.460
What we're gonna do.

01:15:40.460 --> 01:15:41.210
You don't want that.

01:15:41.210 --> 01:15:41.359
Come on.

01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:43.850
It's gotta be reasonable, but it has to be crazy.

01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:52.489
So what we're gonna do, I'm both, so we're gonna do something that's, it's gonna be, uh, carrot, ginger, garlic, habanero.

01:15:52.729 --> 01:15:53.060
Okay.

01:15:53.284 --> 01:15:53.824
The, the carrot

01:15:53.845 --> 01:15:54.710
is for the color.

01:15:54.770 --> 01:15:55.430
For the color.

01:15:55.460 --> 01:15:57.470
The carrot's Mostly for the sweet ginger and the color.

01:15:57.470 --> 01:15:57.479
Okay.

01:15:57.829 --> 01:15:58.909
You won't taste carrots.

01:15:58.909 --> 01:16:00.409
You want me like, no.

01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:02.510
Did eat anyway.

01:16:02.689 --> 01:16:04.699
Didn't think carrot would bring a sweet aspect though.

01:16:04.729 --> 01:16:05.060
Oh yeah.

01:16:05.090 --> 01:16:05.930
Carrots are very sweet.

01:16:05.989 --> 01:16:06.289
Yeah.

01:16:06.409 --> 01:16:06.949
For a vegetable,

01:16:06.949 --> 01:16:07.609
especially when pickled.

01:16:07.609 --> 01:16:07.789
Yeah.

01:16:07.850 --> 01:16:08.149
Yep.

01:16:08.270 --> 01:16:11.000
And so, Ooh, we could, well we don't wanna pickle'em first.

01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:16.189
It'll cost more so carrot, ginger, garlic, and habanero.

01:16:16.579 --> 01:16:22.729
And then, um, some extra kick from some dragons breath and or ghost pepper, depending on how the taste is.

01:16:22.729 --> 01:16:23.449
Maybe both.

01:16:23.449 --> 01:16:23.645
Oh yeah.

01:16:23.869 --> 01:16:26.960
So it's gonna be a hot, bright orange thing.

01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:27.680
And loco.

01:16:28.220 --> 01:16:29.210
And the, the flavor.

01:16:29.210 --> 01:16:31.760
This time, instead of smoking margarita is.

01:16:32.824 --> 01:16:34.024
Crazy Ginger.

01:16:34.475 --> 01:16:35.975
Crazy Ginger.

01:16:36.005 --> 01:16:37.444
Well then you gotta change the label.

01:16:37.744 --> 01:16:38.345
Well, we will.

01:16:38.465 --> 01:16:39.064
Can't be blue.

01:16:39.095 --> 01:16:39.395
Yeah.

01:16:39.454 --> 01:16:43.534
And I'm gonna talk Old Town Spice Shop in the carrier on their website and in their store.

01:16:43.685 --> 01:16:44.555
And, uh,

01:16:44.614 --> 01:16:48.635
we take your picture, you dye your hair red, blow it up.

01:16:48.635 --> 01:16:51.095
Make that the lo logo on the label.

01:16:51.784 --> 01:16:56.225
I could just wear like, what's that dude with the giant ginger hair?

01:16:56.225 --> 01:16:57.880
The old comedian from I have a ginger wig.

01:16:57.880 --> 01:16:58.039
Oh.

01:16:58.039 --> 01:16:58.720
Or Dynamite.

01:16:58.760 --> 01:17:00.560
Napoleon Dynamite Guy or something like that.

01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:00.640
Oh.

01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:01.024
Thought you could say like

01:17:01.024 --> 01:17:01.925
Bati or

01:17:01.954 --> 01:17:05.854
I don't know, somebody, but I could just wear like a crazy ginger wig and it could be me.

01:17:06.064 --> 01:17:06.664
That'd be fine.

01:17:06.784 --> 01:17:08.045
I think should, I think we should like change,

01:17:08.524 --> 01:17:10.204
but yeah, we'll get a new label and

01:17:10.414 --> 01:17:11.135
put like fire hair on him.

01:17:11.135 --> 01:17:11.404
Sweet.

01:17:11.524 --> 01:17:11.795
Yeah.

01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:12.159
Something.

01:17:12.305 --> 01:17:13.774
So anyway, that's my, that's my new brand.

01:17:13.835 --> 01:17:16.520
I love Sauce as a gift and tomato hair.

01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:17.614
I don't wanna make any money.

01:17:17.614 --> 01:17:19.805
Like, I don't wanna pay sales taxes ever.

01:17:19.805 --> 01:17:22.145
And so I'm gonna let Old Town Spice Shep sell it.

01:17:22.505 --> 01:17:22.835
Right.

01:17:22.925 --> 01:17:25.895
Or we'll give it to as a gift to our members or podcast guests.

01:17:25.895 --> 01:17:28.715
But it's, look, look for Crazy Ginger coming soon.

01:17:28.895 --> 01:17:32.345
What if, if you made a deal with Old Town Spice Shop, shout out Old Town Spice Shop.

01:17:32.465 --> 01:17:32.944
Shout out

01:17:33.994 --> 01:17:36.694
where a proceed of every sale went to realities.

01:17:37.204 --> 01:17:37.475
Mm

01:17:37.500 --> 01:17:38.345
mm I

01:17:38.345 --> 01:17:39.664
love those kind of branded deals.

01:17:40.234 --> 01:17:42.034
That was what Marshall Spring talked about actually.

01:17:42.034 --> 01:17:43.295
It was some of those kind of things.

01:17:43.295 --> 01:17:44.284
And so did Seed and Spirit.

01:17:44.314 --> 01:17:55.085
Oh, and I've got a verbal, I've got a verbal approval from Seed and Spirit Distillery, uh, Joel and Jess, uh, from a month ago or so.

01:17:55.085 --> 01:17:55.715
Six weeks ago.

01:17:55.720 --> 01:17:55.840
Yeah.

01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:55.920
Yeah.

01:17:55.920 --> 01:17:56.359
A couple weeks ago.

01:17:56.364 --> 01:17:58.625
Um, to be the official spirit sponsor.

01:17:58.630 --> 01:17:58.680
That's awesome.

01:17:59.404 --> 01:18:01.324
For the local experience podcast.

01:18:01.324 --> 01:18:01.414
What?

01:18:01.414 --> 01:18:01.744
I know that.

01:18:02.135 --> 01:18:04.625
So free booze for the house.

01:18:05.375 --> 01:18:05.435
Woo.

01:18:05.435 --> 01:18:05.529
Pray when

01:18:05.550 --> 01:18:05.930
I'm leaving.

01:18:07.229 --> 01:18:07.449
You.

01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:08.250
Pray when I'm leaving.

01:18:08.255 --> 01:18:09.725
You'd come by once a month.

01:18:09.725 --> 01:18:09.755
As long as

01:18:09.755 --> 01:18:10.569
it's none of this.

01:18:11.430 --> 01:18:11.649
No.

01:18:11.649 --> 01:18:12.850
Lord sheed this off the shelf.

01:18:12.850 --> 01:18:13.715
Drink a lot of whiskey.

01:18:14.194 --> 01:18:14.524
Yeah, you did.

01:18:14.555 --> 01:18:16.385
That's coming soon potentially.

01:18:16.595 --> 01:18:16.925
Sweet.

01:18:17.045 --> 01:18:17.585
That's exciting.

01:18:17.585 --> 01:18:20.010
So anyway, this mayoral candidate series, right?

01:18:20.015 --> 01:18:20.284
Right.

01:18:20.284 --> 01:18:20.529
That did.

01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:23.704
It's really cool and I really enjoyed it.

01:18:23.824 --> 01:18:24.364
Honestly.

01:18:24.364 --> 01:18:25.715
I like my conversation.

01:18:25.715 --> 01:18:25.835
Very

01:18:25.835 --> 01:18:26.074
entertaining.

01:18:26.104 --> 01:18:26.494
All the

01:18:26.494 --> 01:18:27.755
po, all the conversations.

01:18:27.755 --> 01:18:29.314
So shout out to Shirley Peele.

01:18:29.734 --> 01:18:32.524
Shout out to Adam Eggleston.

01:18:32.524 --> 01:18:34.805
Adam, shout out to Tricia Kaco.

01:18:34.835 --> 01:18:35.345
Tricia.

01:18:35.345 --> 01:18:37.204
She was my, I thought she was gonna win.

01:18:37.774 --> 01:18:38.375
Um,

01:18:38.435 --> 01:18:39.604
he had his bets on Tricia

01:18:39.875 --> 01:18:41.135
and then Scott Van Taten.

01:18:41.135 --> 01:18:44.885
Hove, Scotty V and then Emily Francis.

01:18:44.914 --> 01:18:45.604
Mm-hmm Emily.

01:18:45.994 --> 01:18:51.970
After I talked to Emily, I was like, oh, maybe Emily's gonna win because she was just so charismatic and I like her a lot.

01:18:51.970 --> 01:18:53.435
And levelheaded there.

01:18:54.125 --> 01:18:58.324
And then finally with Adam Hirschhorn, who we knew wasn't gonna win.

01:18:59.885 --> 01:19:01.114
We actually switched the order.

01:19:01.414 --> 01:19:02.289
Put Emily out there first.

01:19:03.010 --> 01:19:04.295
A really, but a really kind guy.

01:19:04.354 --> 01:19:04.685
He is

01:19:04.685 --> 01:19:05.494
a very kind guy.

01:19:05.494 --> 01:19:05.555
He

01:19:05.555 --> 01:19:06.649
not release that type of information.

01:19:07.055 --> 01:19:08.675
And Scotty V was super fun.

01:19:08.734 --> 01:19:08.975
Yeah.

01:19:09.305 --> 01:19:13.324
Uh, and so Shadow and Adam, Adam Eggleston was good comedy.

01:19:13.595 --> 01:19:15.005
We had a nice conversation as well.

01:19:15.005 --> 01:19:22.505
So anyway, the Old Town Spice Shop guy and the Matador Mexican Grill guy asked me to do this series.

01:19:22.505 --> 01:19:23.255
I had a lot of fun.

01:19:23.255 --> 01:19:25.354
I got to meet all these people and now.

01:19:26.465 --> 01:19:33.845
I've applied for the Fort Collins City Council to fill Emily's seat because she's in my district and she got the thing.

01:19:33.845 --> 01:19:37.744
Will you know about that by the time that this episode drops episode?

01:19:37.835 --> 01:19:40.444
No, I don't know yet know what, but I'm gonna put it out there.

01:19:40.444 --> 01:19:53.255
You're, so by December 31st is the, so if you're in district six in Fort Collins and you're able to drop anybody from the city council, like especially Emily or Tricia,'cause I know them.

01:19:53.734 --> 01:19:57.244
A note that says Kurt would actually be a really good city council person.

01:19:57.935 --> 01:19:58.595
That would be awesome.

01:19:58.625 --> 01:20:02.104
'cause they have to choose the five finalists by January 13th.

01:20:02.524 --> 01:20:02.564
Oh, okay.

01:20:02.885 --> 01:20:13.774
And then they have each have individual interviews with the council and then the council chooses who will serve out the rest of Emily's term until the end of November, or mid-November, whatever, 2027.

01:20:14.255 --> 01:20:14.435
Okay.

01:20:14.614 --> 01:20:16.085
So it's like a almost three year thing.

01:20:16.085 --> 01:20:21.335
So any listeners out there in district six, district six is Northwest Fort Collins.

01:20:21.335 --> 01:20:24.125
If you're wondering like a good word, wouldn't hurt.

01:20:24.185 --> 01:20:24.454
Right?

01:20:24.454 --> 01:20:30.454
Like,'cause they might just pick whoever they think is like most aligned with them, or they might kinda want to have some.

01:20:31.130 --> 01:20:32.180
Some Kurt Bear in the house.

01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:32.779
I don't know.

01:20:33.380 --> 01:20:33.920
We'll see.

01:20:34.069 --> 01:20:35.329
There's a betting pool going

01:20:35.329 --> 01:20:35.840
on laughing.

01:20:35.840 --> 01:20:35.960
Yeah.

01:20:35.960 --> 01:20:36.890
Pete doesn't have high.

01:20:38.090 --> 01:20:38.810
Pete doesn't have high hope.

01:20:38.810 --> 01:20:39.574
So our facilitator,

01:20:39.590 --> 01:20:45.560
Pete Gly was here today for a meeting and he said, no chance in hell they're gonna sit you in the Fort Collin city council.

01:20:46.159 --> 01:20:48.619
And so I bet him Pete is official.

01:20:49.159 --> 01:20:51.050
You didn't agree to it, but it's official now.

01:20:51.050 --> 01:20:51.109
Yeah.

01:20:51.739 --> 01:20:56.239
Uh, if I get on the city council, he has to buy me lunch at cash or dinner.

01:20:56.449 --> 01:20:57.229
Probably should be dinner.

01:20:57.770 --> 01:20:58.069
Yeah.

01:20:58.609 --> 01:20:58.850
Yeah.

01:20:58.854 --> 01:20:59.840
And get the chocolate cake

01:21:01.314 --> 01:21:01.970
is not a meal.

01:21:01.970 --> 01:21:02.869
Like three cores.

01:21:02.869 --> 01:21:03.770
Yeah, five cores.

01:21:03.770 --> 01:21:04.100
So is not a meal.

01:21:04.189 --> 01:21:04.760
Yeah, no.

01:21:04.939 --> 01:21:05.329
Right.

01:21:05.750 --> 01:21:07.069
And cocktails are included.

01:21:07.699 --> 01:21:13.909
Or if I win, no, if he wins, if I don't make it on the council, then I have to take him out to Chick-fil-A.

01:21:13.914 --> 01:21:14.255
Chick-fil-A.

01:21:14.659 --> 01:21:16.579
Chick-fil-A, Pete, I'll even bring your wife out.

01:21:16.909 --> 01:21:19.694
Uh, if you guys wanna go double date or something like that, that's good.

01:21:19.729 --> 01:21:22.250
But it's Chick-fil-A and no dessert.

01:21:23.539 --> 01:21:24.109
That's fair.

01:21:24.109 --> 01:21:24.409
I have it.

01:21:24.500 --> 01:21:25.430
I think that's a fair trade.

01:21:25.909 --> 01:21:28.220
I think it's probably right out the odds, if I'm honest.

01:21:28.220 --> 01:21:28.970
But we'll see.

01:21:29.029 --> 01:21:29.479
I don't know.

01:21:29.569 --> 01:21:30.109
I don't know either.

01:21:30.170 --> 01:21:38.390
I feel like I've, I'm a pretty pragmatic, interesting, curious guy that could add a lot of value to our city council and so that's why I apply.

01:21:38.395 --> 01:21:38.574
Totally.

01:21:38.960 --> 01:21:39.289
Totally.

01:21:39.380 --> 01:21:42.199
And I don't know personally the criteria that they're looking

01:21:42.199 --> 01:21:42.409
same.

01:21:42.409 --> 01:21:44.329
Like what exactly are they looking for?

01:21:44.329 --> 01:21:45.739
A one you say council looking for?

01:21:45.739 --> 01:21:45.949
Really

01:21:45.949 --> 01:21:46.550
say that.

01:21:46.550 --> 01:21:47.329
They just say,

01:21:47.420 --> 01:21:47.840
yeah.

01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:52.789
The question that I have in my head is, are they looking for a essentially one-to-one replacement?

01:21:53.164 --> 01:21:54.185
For the vacancy For

01:21:54.185 --> 01:21:54.545
Emily?

01:21:55.114 --> 01:21:55.564
Yes.

01:21:55.625 --> 01:21:56.015
Because how could I

01:21:56.015 --> 01:21:57.034
possibly replace Emily?

01:21:57.034 --> 01:22:00.305
Like my affinity for onesies is actually similar to hers.

01:22:00.364 --> 01:22:01.055
I understood.

01:22:01.414 --> 01:22:03.545
She calls them jumpers.

01:22:04.114 --> 01:22:04.654
That's the

01:22:04.654 --> 01:22:06.979
pro appropriate term if you're a, a jumper.

01:22:06.979 --> 01:22:09.064
A female, well, a dressed.

01:22:09.125 --> 01:22:10.324
A dressed person.

01:22:10.954 --> 01:22:11.314
Right.

01:22:11.345 --> 01:22:12.064
Dressed for the day.

01:22:12.095 --> 01:22:12.484
Yeah.

01:22:12.489 --> 01:22:12.500
Yeah.

01:22:13.204 --> 01:22:14.854
If you're in a onesie, like at home, I

01:22:14.854 --> 01:22:19.234
aspire to make a male jump.

01:22:19.329 --> 01:22:22.595
They appropriate, no appropriate for professional attire.

01:22:22.654 --> 01:22:22.954
They

01:22:22.954 --> 01:22:23.765
exist,

01:22:23.944 --> 01:22:24.935
do you think so?

01:22:25.805 --> 01:22:26.015
No, they don't.

01:22:26.015 --> 01:22:27.484
For professional at attire.

01:22:27.664 --> 01:22:33.824
Go to work at a, like, something where I could go, go to a conference and make a presentation and this one z You're bullshitter.

01:22:33.890 --> 01:22:34.180
Yeah.

01:22:34.829 --> 01:22:36.335
There are such a thing.

01:22:36.994 --> 01:22:37.055
I

01:22:37.055 --> 01:22:37.984
mean, they exist.

01:22:37.984 --> 01:22:40.295
I, I wouldn't wear it to a work event.

01:22:40.739 --> 01:22:42.845
I, who would like that sounds like a horrible idea.

01:22:42.845 --> 01:22:42.935
I've

01:22:43.175 --> 01:22:46.864
wore my one Z to, to a lot of places that you wouldn't expect me to.

01:22:47.284 --> 01:22:49.715
Um, I believe that, but it's, it's great.

01:22:49.835 --> 01:22:52.414
Like I love, regardless wearing a one suit, I don't know

01:22:52.414 --> 01:22:59.765
if you're a one-to-one, uh, exchange in terms of ideas for Emily on the council maybe.

01:22:59.765 --> 01:23:01.954
So if that's what they're looking for, that would be a hard sell.

01:23:02.555 --> 01:23:05.765
If they're just looking for a good representative from the district, great.

01:23:06.125 --> 01:23:07.145
You know, it's that.

01:23:07.414 --> 01:23:10.715
Well it's that what I, I met with Tyler Manza yesterday.

01:23:10.715 --> 01:23:10.744
Okay.

01:23:10.744 --> 01:23:19.744
He's, uh, like number two at Economic Health and he was very pragmatic and he tells me that he thinks the culture of the city council and the city.

01:23:20.569 --> 01:23:31.729
Has shifted to try to be a lot more welcoming and in supportive and intentional about saying small businesses are awesome when we need more of them and more of them to start and to grow and what can we do to help.

01:23:31.789 --> 01:23:33.380
And was that an issue before?

01:23:33.380 --> 01:23:33.949
It has been,

01:23:33.949 --> 01:23:34.369
yeah.

01:23:34.430 --> 01:23:34.699
Yeah.

01:23:34.699 --> 01:23:40.250
And surely made that a 10 minute segment of our conversation of, and I and, and it is true.

01:23:40.250 --> 01:23:51.319
Like when I was a kid and all through my first 10 years, 15 year, all my banking career, the small business founders and builders were the heroes of the community.

01:23:51.439 --> 01:23:59.750
And now they're more like, oh, you got wealthy, kind of on the shoulders of poor people or something is more the culture.

01:23:59.899 --> 01:24:00.109
I when you

01:24:00.354 --> 01:24:00.890
said poor people,

01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:02.000
well'cause you're poor.

01:24:02.630 --> 01:24:04.489
Um, but you're also a young person.

01:24:04.489 --> 01:24:05.930
Like everybody young is poor.

01:24:05.935 --> 01:24:07.220
That's the poor people, people.

01:24:07.220 --> 01:24:08.300
That's the way it should be.

01:24:08.300 --> 01:24:10.579
I'm damn near as poor as you Ava.

01:24:10.579 --> 01:24:11.270
Just so you know.

01:24:11.810 --> 01:24:11.989
Uh, there's

01:24:11.989 --> 01:24:12.739
no shot.

01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:16.489
Like I bought my house when it was only 250 grand.

01:24:16.489 --> 01:24:17.960
Otherwise I'd be just as poor as you.

01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:23.060
If I had to pay$4,000 a rent month to rent my house, I'd be freaking poor as shit.

01:24:23.060 --> 01:24:23.994
I was born in the wrong generation.

01:24:24.135 --> 01:24:25.159
That's all we gotta say.

01:24:25.220 --> 01:24:29.840
Shout out to a loco member that helped me refinance my Oh, right.

01:24:30.140 --> 01:24:30.380
Yeah.

01:24:30.590 --> 01:24:34.489
Ben saved like a thousand dollars a month refinancing his house and getting

01:24:34.489 --> 01:24:37.039
new insurance from maybe a local member.

01:24:37.039 --> 01:24:37.550
I don't know.

01:24:37.550 --> 01:24:39.319
But yeah, Justin Crowley is a man.

01:24:39.350 --> 01:24:41.180
He should be on my podcast for sure.

01:24:41.180 --> 01:24:41.270
Write

01:24:41.270 --> 01:24:41.994
it down.

01:24:42.024 --> 01:24:42.314
What

01:24:42.314 --> 01:24:42.515
a guy.

01:24:42.515 --> 01:24:42.635
Yeah.

01:24:44.029 --> 01:24:44.630
Thanks David.

01:24:45.319 --> 01:24:50.810
I have, uh, yeah, I have in the months of December, uh, November, December.

01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:51.050
Yeah.

01:24:51.050 --> 01:24:52.909
Dropped your occupancy like so much.

01:24:52.909 --> 01:24:52.939
Oh my gosh.

01:24:52.939 --> 01:24:53.750
It's so nice.

01:24:53.810 --> 01:24:54.229
It's insane.

01:24:54.859 --> 01:24:55.399
Congrats.

01:24:55.399 --> 01:24:57.229
Thank goodness it was always the plan, right?

01:24:57.229 --> 01:24:57.770
Right.

01:24:57.770 --> 01:24:58.265
What, I'm gonna do this, but here we are.

01:24:58.484 --> 01:25:00.529
I'm gonna chop off and make it a base.

01:25:00.649 --> 01:25:02.220
Oh, that would be a nice base if you I agree.

01:25:02.220 --> 01:25:02.779
I want pictures.

01:25:02.854 --> 01:25:03.145
Okay.

01:25:04.609 --> 01:25:09.079
I'm gonna finish the rest of the, um, yeah, season recap.

01:25:10.279 --> 01:25:18.289
And Ava, I invite your involvement here and we'll ask for some reflections from you before we allow for the loco experience from Ben,

01:25:19.189 --> 01:25:19.784
if you prepared it.

01:25:20.180 --> 01:25:22.130
So had all that series.

01:25:22.399 --> 01:25:24.890
I ate so much hot sauce, I sweated so much.

01:25:25.369 --> 01:25:26.585
Yeah, it was love chicken nuggets.

01:25:26.585 --> 01:25:27.260
It was kind of rough.

01:25:27.770 --> 01:25:30.439
Oh, Evan Worsley was a favorite podcast.

01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:30.500
Yeah.

01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:33.920
And I hope to add him to the look of think tank ranks as well.

01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:43.520
Yeah, he's, and like what was cool is I, because I'm always like encouraging business and stuff and, and Evan was celebrating nine years in business.

01:25:43.550 --> 01:25:43.609
Yeah.

01:25:43.819 --> 01:25:44.600
Last spring.

01:25:44.989 --> 01:25:48.170
And I dropped him a note note on LinkedIn and was like, Hey, congrats.

01:25:48.170 --> 01:25:50.000
Seems like you've built a pretty cool company.

01:25:50.539 --> 01:25:53.449
And he was like, Hey, it was in part because of you.

01:25:53.479 --> 01:25:53.840
'cause.

01:25:54.199 --> 01:26:03.470
You helped me create my LLC and register to get my tax ID number when I was leaving my job to start this business nine years and change years ago.

01:26:03.619 --> 01:26:03.739
Mm-hmm.

01:26:04.069 --> 01:26:04.909
And thanks.

01:26:05.090 --> 01:26:05.270
Yeah.

01:26:05.300 --> 01:26:06.500
I was like, oh no, shit.

01:26:06.529 --> 01:26:08.119
Like, I didn't remember.

01:26:08.119 --> 01:26:08.149
Aw.

01:26:08.869 --> 01:26:12.289
Um, and so it, we had a slow dance to a podcast at a great podcast.

01:26:12.289 --> 01:26:26.390
And, and after his daughter wins, perhaps the state championship in basketball this year with his coaching, like he's the coach, the head coach, which I think is awesome for a dude to coach a girl's basketball team, like a elite one.

01:26:26.390 --> 01:26:32.840
I, um, then maybe, uh, maybe we'll get him in here, but if not, we'll get him in here for another podcast.

01:26:32.869 --> 01:26:34.909
'cause that would be a pretty cool experience to talk about.

01:26:35.390 --> 01:26:36.170
Anyway.

01:26:36.619 --> 01:26:40.734
Rebecca Archuleta, uh, kind of a smart gal, smart girl.

01:26:40.909 --> 01:26:42.439
A lot of insightful stuff.

01:26:42.500 --> 01:26:42.739
Yeah.

01:26:43.250 --> 01:26:46.699
Aaron Everett, the post-election recap, the, the big blue wave.

01:26:46.699 --> 01:26:48.805
I, I wore my, my blue Hawaiian shirt.

01:26:48.864 --> 01:26:49.489
You sure did.

01:26:50.449 --> 01:26:51.710
It was I catching, wasn't it?

01:26:51.710 --> 01:26:51.920
Yeah.

01:26:52.250 --> 01:26:53.449
Bright and proud.

01:26:54.470 --> 01:26:55.640
You know, I'm, I'm a realist

01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:59.810
really, Kurt, in any solid color is just a wave of color.

01:27:00.920 --> 01:27:03.319
Well, I also wore my maga uh, visor.

01:27:03.560 --> 01:27:04.159
Yep, you did.

01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:08.600
Which I picked up in, uh, on the beach in California, which was cool.

01:27:08.630 --> 01:27:10.220
And then I locked you out of the office for the day,

01:27:11.270 --> 01:27:11.750
you know?

01:27:11.930 --> 01:27:12.725
Yeah, I know.

01:27:12.944 --> 01:27:14.284
We won't, he said, you know what?

01:27:14.284 --> 01:27:14.404
Yeah.

01:27:14.404 --> 01:27:15.170
We won't go there.

01:27:15.859 --> 01:27:15.920
No.

01:27:16.039 --> 01:27:22.250
Um, I've been disappointed, like, honestly, I, I told my friend I had, uh.

01:27:22.970 --> 01:27:24.590
A drink with Aaron Everett the other night.

01:27:24.590 --> 01:27:24.649
Yeah.

01:27:24.710 --> 01:27:26.689
Just the first time we've seen each other since then.

01:27:26.689 --> 01:27:27.079
Really?

01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:27.289
Mm-hmm.

01:27:27.890 --> 01:27:30.920
Um, that I kind of wish I would've voted for Kanye.

01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:33.470
Um, again, again, kind of, yeah.

01:27:33.500 --> 01:27:33.949
Again.

01:27:33.949 --> 01:27:34.604
Did he run again?

01:27:34.699 --> 01:27:36.050
No, he didn't, but Right.

01:27:36.050 --> 01:27:39.890
In like, I was never gonna vote for, but I, I, I don't know.

01:27:39.890 --> 01:27:40.159
You don't, you

01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:40.850
voted for Trump.

01:27:40.850 --> 01:27:40.909
I

01:27:40.909 --> 01:27:42.289
mean, he's just such an asshole.

01:27:42.289 --> 01:27:44.750
That thing with Rob Reiner last weekend and stuff is Yeah.

01:27:44.750 --> 01:27:45.765
That was freaking annoying.

01:27:46.310 --> 01:27:48.979
And fucking control yourself, man.

01:27:48.979 --> 01:27:50.479
Like you got a responsibility.

01:27:50.484 --> 01:27:50.645
Yeah.

01:27:50.784 --> 01:27:51.404
And the,

01:27:51.585 --> 01:27:53.125
the biggest responsibility.

01:27:53.270 --> 01:27:53.779
Right.

01:27:53.840 --> 01:27:59.659
And like, I appreciate him kind of being addicted to Europe and saying, fucking carry your own water bitches.

01:27:59.659 --> 01:28:01.279
Like being realist with Ukraine.

01:28:01.279 --> 01:28:05.750
Like all those things I'm mostly on board with, but it's kind of always that same thing where flip

01:28:05.750 --> 01:28:06.739
flopping realist though.

01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:08.569
Yeah.

01:28:08.659 --> 01:28:09.890
I mean, yeah.

01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:12.170
But everybody is like, you gotta play the room.

01:28:12.170 --> 01:28:13.069
You gotta figure it out.

01:28:13.069 --> 01:28:13.279
So.

01:28:13.279 --> 01:28:13.489
Sure.

01:28:13.640 --> 01:28:21.890
You like That's one of the biggest problems with politics is that everybody's afraid to say they were wrong or to change their mind anymore.

01:28:21.890 --> 01:28:24.229
And sometimes, and I you, we have this conversation, you get information

01:28:24.409 --> 01:28:25.250
a couple months ago

01:28:25.369 --> 01:28:25.670
Yeah.

01:28:26.149 --> 01:28:33.949
Of, I'm inclined to vote for whoever I think will actually un unify the country.

01:28:34.130 --> 01:28:34.399
Yeah.

01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:35.149
If there could be a

01:28:35.149 --> 01:28:36.765
person that would do that, that would be great.

01:28:36.765 --> 01:28:37.164
Because right

01:28:37.164 --> 01:28:38.180
now it is so ugly,

01:28:38.510 --> 01:28:39.050
terrible,

01:28:39.289 --> 01:28:42.529
and yeah, it's gonna take massive healing.

01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:43.250
Totally.

01:28:43.279 --> 01:28:43.489
Yeah.

01:28:44.194 --> 01:28:44.465
No.

01:28:44.465 --> 01:28:46.265
And, and probably not a therapist.

01:28:47.314 --> 01:28:48.784
'cause they're all fucking whacked out too.

01:28:48.845 --> 01:28:50.194
Definitely not Donald Trump for a third time.

01:28:50.194 --> 01:28:51.545
No, definitely not.

01:28:51.545 --> 01:28:51.604
No.

01:28:52.055 --> 01:28:53.645
And I don't know, I don't know.

01:28:53.675 --> 01:28:54.784
I don't know who that person is.

01:28:54.784 --> 01:28:56.970
I, I, I don't have an imagination of, I

01:28:56.970 --> 01:29:00.454
know a few people who it's not Totally, totally.

01:29:00.454 --> 01:29:01.295
But I don't know.

01:29:01.385 --> 01:29:02.255
Yeah, I agree.

01:29:02.284 --> 01:29:06.574
That's horrifying though, that we have no idea of anybody that could take that role and do it well.

01:29:06.635 --> 01:29:06.845
Yeah.

01:29:06.845 --> 01:29:07.564
So it goes,

01:29:07.564 --> 01:29:13.970
you know, so it is, um, innovation integration and local experience with Joel and Jess.

01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:15.149
Joel and Jess, Joel and

01:29:15.149 --> 01:29:15.425
Jess.

01:29:15.574 --> 01:29:18.604
My drunkest appearance on the local Experience podcast.

01:29:18.604 --> 01:29:19.295
They could change

01:29:19.295 --> 01:29:19.475
that

01:29:19.475 --> 01:29:19.864
today.

01:29:19.925 --> 01:29:21.515
They were back in some drinks that day.

01:29:22.744 --> 01:29:23.340
We drinks, well they

01:29:23.340 --> 01:29:27.814
brought bottles and then once there's more than two bottles on the table, you know, it's just going.

01:29:27.814 --> 01:29:28.234
There were three,

01:29:28.234 --> 01:29:28.715
I believe.

01:29:28.744 --> 01:29:29.164
Yes.

01:29:29.164 --> 01:29:29.529
There were four

01:29:29.529 --> 01:29:29.729
maybe.

01:29:29.850 --> 01:29:31.010
I think they brought four bottles total.

01:29:31.010 --> 01:29:32.854
Were in the camera with like the shot.

01:29:32.854 --> 01:29:34.895
It was just all the tops of like the lids of everything.

01:29:34.895 --> 01:29:39.005
And there's like so many By the end of it, it was just mumbo jumbo.

01:29:39.215 --> 01:29:39.395
Oh.

01:29:39.395 --> 01:29:40.385
And I, great energy.

01:29:40.444 --> 01:29:45.305
It was a really fun podcast to listen back to and I was only a little slurry at the end.

01:29:45.305 --> 01:29:45.425
Yeah.

01:29:45.425 --> 01:29:45.784
You honestly

01:29:45.784 --> 01:29:46.385
didn't sound that bad.

01:29:46.475 --> 01:29:46.805
Yeah.

01:29:47.225 --> 01:29:50.854
Um, and then I walked from here to go have dinner with Bettina.

01:29:51.425 --> 01:29:53.435
One of our former facilitators and my You

01:29:53.435 --> 01:29:54.154
had dinner after that?

01:29:54.274 --> 01:29:55.715
Yeah, I went downtown with another

01:29:55.715 --> 01:29:55.864
person

01:29:56.435 --> 01:29:57.694
with a whole family.

01:29:57.994 --> 01:30:00.935
Sat Tina and her family and then Jill and Sarah came downtown too.

01:30:00.939 --> 01:30:01.159
Oh

01:30:01.260 --> 01:30:01.479
God.

01:30:02.069 --> 01:30:02.359
Yeah.

01:30:02.859 --> 01:30:03.279
Oh God.

01:30:03.574 --> 01:30:04.085
Did they notice?

01:30:04.295 --> 01:30:05.104
I'll probably like a quarter of a bottle.

01:30:05.104 --> 01:30:06.364
Well, yeah, I was, when I

01:30:06.364 --> 01:30:08.704
got there I was like, sorry, I'm not gonna drink anything.

01:30:09.034 --> 01:30:09.664
Sorry hammered.

01:30:09.664 --> 01:30:10.564
I hammered.

01:30:10.774 --> 01:30:13.505
But by the end of the dinner, like it was lovely.

01:30:13.564 --> 01:30:13.835
Yeah.

01:30:14.500 --> 01:30:15.359
So it was lovely.

01:30:15.359 --> 01:30:16.720
After a glass of water.

01:30:16.729 --> 01:30:18.875
Don't I'll take a loaf of bread, please.

01:30:19.340 --> 01:30:19.760
Please.

01:30:20.435 --> 01:30:20.704
Extra mad.

01:30:21.994 --> 01:30:27.784
Well, she changed the day we were supposed to meet the night after the night before or something, and then she was like, can we possibly do this?

01:30:27.814 --> 01:30:28.715
'cause this and this.

01:30:28.715 --> 01:30:31.654
She was visiting for a month or something From Switzerland.

01:30:31.654 --> 01:30:33.545
She moved from here.

01:30:33.604 --> 01:30:33.694
Yeah.

01:30:33.725 --> 01:30:34.895
So Hallows, yeah.

01:30:35.104 --> 01:30:36.935
Relational intelligence that we've been using.

01:30:37.085 --> 01:30:37.534
Yeah, totally.

01:30:38.104 --> 01:30:47.585
She's here in part because the founder of that, uh, helped them get to Colorado, helped her husband get a job in Greeley at JBS, whatever.

01:30:47.914 --> 01:30:53.375
And so that's why, part of why I know of the program, but also it was just the best when we found it.

01:30:54.095 --> 01:30:56.585
And, but she's only around once in a while.

01:30:56.585 --> 01:31:02.404
But anyway, she moved to Australia, then moved to Switzerland and her daughter was with, who's the same one year older than Sarah.

01:31:02.824 --> 01:31:09.305
And so actually possible that,'cause we've hosted one of an that daughter's.

01:31:10.114 --> 01:31:15.335
Good friend Manu lived with me and Jill two years ago right after Enrico.

01:31:16.204 --> 01:31:19.265
So yeah, we just have these family interconnected.

01:31:19.265 --> 01:31:20.199
You did such a cool, uh,

01:31:20.739 --> 01:31:24.064
before and after or who did it best of Enrico and Sarah.

01:31:24.454 --> 01:31:24.875
Aren't they?

01:31:24.904 --> 01:31:26.074
Don't they look the same kind of?

01:31:26.074 --> 01:31:26.255
Oh it

01:31:26.255 --> 01:31:26.885
is awesome.

01:31:27.425 --> 01:31:31.984
And I don't know if that means that it enrico's pretty or Sarah's handsome, but maybe both.

01:31:31.989 --> 01:31:33.520
But either way it's a compli I would say.

01:31:34.100 --> 01:31:39.395
Um, but yeah, that was a really funny, it was fun, uh, that you and really special that you got to host.

01:31:39.484 --> 01:31:40.925
I showed Sarah the other day.

01:31:40.925 --> 01:31:41.404
I was like,

01:31:41.614 --> 01:31:42.755
we gotta recreate this.

01:31:42.755 --> 01:31:43.324
So awesome.

01:31:43.324 --> 01:31:47.885
I took this picture with Enco and Safeway's got these ribeye roasts on sale.

01:31:47.885 --> 01:31:48.364
So he's

01:31:48.364 --> 01:31:49.744
been bragging about it all week.

01:31:50.045 --> 01:31:51.755
I mean, it's 6 49 a pound.

01:31:51.994 --> 01:31:53.164
You just gotta do some work.

01:31:53.404 --> 01:31:58.234
Like not everybody feels comfortable cutting up a 12 pound chunk of meat.

01:31:58.234 --> 01:31:59.000
Yeah, I sure as hell wouldn't.

01:31:59.944 --> 01:32:00.244
Yeah, you would.

01:32:00.244 --> 01:32:02.284
Well let me teach you something young lady.

01:32:02.314 --> 01:32:05.914
'cause it might be a while before you want to pay retail.

01:32:06.149 --> 01:32:06.439
Yeah.

01:32:06.689 --> 01:32:07.039
Never.

01:32:07.539 --> 01:32:08.560
Not these, not these days.

01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:09.395
Not in this economy.

01:32:09.454 --> 01:32:12.154
But you're pretty, so you get this pretty benefit.

01:32:12.154 --> 01:32:15.274
You like got a hunky boyfriend that came by here to grab your plunger for you.

01:32:15.274 --> 01:32:16.385
The Safeway still do the pretty

01:32:16.385 --> 01:32:16.625
face

01:32:16.625 --> 01:32:17.104
discount.

01:32:17.885 --> 01:32:18.965
Safeway does not.

01:32:18.965 --> 01:32:19.045
No, we got,

01:32:19.045 --> 01:32:21.454
we did that like two years ago, so Safeway does not Oh, really?

01:32:21.454 --> 01:32:21.965
So rude.

01:32:21.994 --> 01:32:22.805
I got it last week.

01:32:24.244 --> 01:32:24.635
Really?

01:32:24.640 --> 01:32:24.680
Yeah.

01:32:24.680 --> 01:32:25.319
Because you go in back

01:32:25.539 --> 01:32:25.880
it or what?

01:32:26.060 --> 01:32:26.439
No, I did.

01:32:26.579 --> 01:32:27.604
No, you go in the back doors.

01:32:27.604 --> 01:32:28.085
That's why.

01:32:28.145 --> 01:32:29.015
No, it was self checkout.

01:32:31.895 --> 01:32:32.404
That's awesome.

01:32:32.914 --> 01:32:33.725
Well, what was it, that was quick.

01:32:33.845 --> 01:32:36.215
I saw, I saw a stat recently that.

01:32:36.725 --> 01:32:41.225
Like 40% of people have have admitted to stealing from self checkout.

01:32:41.225 --> 01:32:47.225
Oh, that's, and it's actually more prevalent among like upper middle class people than it is among poor people.

01:32:47.734 --> 01:32:48.335
Well, I sure as well do it.

01:32:48.335 --> 01:32:48.345
But

01:32:48.935 --> 01:32:49.805
you do do it.

01:32:52.810 --> 01:32:53.229
You have

01:32:53.229 --> 01:32:53.630
done it.

01:32:53.890 --> 01:32:54.229
You have

01:32:54.449 --> 01:32:54.670
it.

01:32:55.145 --> 01:32:55.430
We could have, oh,

01:32:56.250 --> 01:33:00.664
I'm not buying, I'm not buying, I'm not spending$15 on a box of tampons.

01:33:00.664 --> 01:33:03.154
'cause I was born this way.

01:33:03.154 --> 01:33:03.845
Sorry.

01:33:04.354 --> 01:33:05.284
Oh, so you're just

01:33:05.944 --> 01:33:08.255
Oh, and they're light besides, so they're expensive in light.

01:33:08.255 --> 01:33:11.135
So anything expensive in light is kind of the, well, well you just kind

01:33:11.135 --> 01:33:13.385
of hit like a quick and, and no tar.

01:33:13.414 --> 01:33:21.515
Nobody, however they do tally and they will wait until it hits a felony and no longer a misdemeanor till you've hit like a shit ton in ceiling.

01:33:21.515 --> 01:33:23.194
And they'll pull and they'll bring cops.

01:33:23.194 --> 01:33:23.204
No.

01:33:23.204 --> 01:33:24.390
Sudden they're just like, here's a bunch of footage.

01:33:24.779 --> 01:33:26.510
It's, I, uh, girl.

01:33:26.550 --> 01:33:30.430
I didn't realize you had No, I don't do it without, don't you pu

01:33:30.604 --> 01:33:32.164
you seem to know a lot about this.

01:33:32.194 --> 01:33:32.944
Yes.

01:33:33.005 --> 01:33:34.265
How do you know so much about it?

01:33:35.194 --> 01:33:35.675
Research, because

01:33:35.675 --> 01:33:36.545
I'm, it's just research

01:33:36.784 --> 01:33:37.295
broke.

01:33:37.895 --> 01:33:44.555
One of my favorites to listen back to this fall has been the Aaron iy and Brett Kemp.

01:33:44.854 --> 01:33:44.944
Oh yeah.

01:33:44.975 --> 01:33:45.904
From Flood and Peterson.

01:33:45.904 --> 01:33:46.175
Yeah.

01:33:46.175 --> 01:33:51.244
I, we get like nerdy on insurance stuff and I challenge them with a bunch of, you have a crazy history.

01:33:51.574 --> 01:33:52.024
Nerdy.

01:33:52.204 --> 01:33:52.835
Yes.

01:33:53.104 --> 01:33:54.755
Um, which was super cool to hear.

01:33:55.055 --> 01:33:55.654
It was,

01:33:56.284 --> 01:33:56.404
yeah.

01:33:56.404 --> 01:33:56.704
We were,

01:33:56.704 --> 01:33:57.784
he just both came at the same time.

01:33:58.295 --> 01:34:00.935
Well, he went through the same banker training program.

01:34:01.055 --> 01:34:01.145
Yeah.

01:34:01.145 --> 01:34:02.164
But 18 months later.

01:34:02.704 --> 01:34:09.574
But 25 years before we did the recording was like the weekend he came to visit and I took him out and got him shit faced almost.

01:34:09.574 --> 01:34:10.145
Exactly.

01:34:10.234 --> 01:34:10.475
Yeah.

01:34:10.475 --> 01:34:11.284
Almost like to the day.

01:34:11.289 --> 01:34:11.465
What was, what was

01:34:11.465 --> 01:34:12.784
special about that episode?

01:34:13.085 --> 01:34:15.635
Um, two things.

01:34:15.664 --> 01:34:21.154
I would say the, the professionalism and the, the intentionally pulling back the curtain.

01:34:21.305 --> 01:34:26.135
You know, a lot of businesses don't really want you to know how it should, how the sausage is made.

01:34:26.194 --> 01:34:26.404
Sure.

01:34:26.409 --> 01:34:27.119
Transparency.

01:34:27.119 --> 01:34:33.305
And they were pretty transparent about that's and like what really matters, what they can affect, what they can't kind of as your broker.

01:34:33.965 --> 01:34:44.375
Um, and that was probably the biggest thing, you know, and in comparing it to like Aaron compared it to like, when, when we worked for the bank, the loan committee was like the decider.

01:34:44.795 --> 01:34:53.675
If I'm like, Hey, loan's got, or Ben's got 30 grand and he wants to borrow 70 grand, he is gonna build this thing and then he is gonna sell it and he's gonna sell it for 200 and blah, blah, blah.

01:34:54.125 --> 01:34:57.994
There'll be these people, our peers we're like, I think that's bullshit.

01:34:57.994 --> 01:34:58.954
I think Ben's a big liar.

01:34:58.954 --> 01:35:00.364
He is not gonna sell it for that much, whatever.

01:35:01.265 --> 01:35:07.625
Um, but in insurance brokerage you can be like, here's this company, here's the risk set as we've defined it.

01:35:07.625 --> 01:35:11.284
Here's how many employees, here's how many assets they have and stuff.

01:35:11.284 --> 01:35:13.564
And you want it at what price?

01:35:14.164 --> 01:35:17.975
But then they can, if they get a not really, they can go, how about you?

01:35:18.335 --> 01:35:18.845
You want it?

01:35:18.845 --> 01:35:19.385
What price?

01:35:19.385 --> 01:35:21.364
So they get like all these different loan committees.

01:35:21.364 --> 01:35:21.454
Sure.

01:35:21.904 --> 01:35:24.935
To decide if their customer is a good risk or a bad risk.

01:35:24.935 --> 01:35:28.114
'cause in most cases you haven't had a big.

01:35:28.625 --> 01:35:29.914
Catastrophic loss.

01:35:30.305 --> 01:35:33.215
So they can't really decide, they don't really know Very good.

01:35:33.215 --> 01:35:35.585
The criteria to determine whether they might.

01:35:35.795 --> 01:35:36.154
Yeah.

01:35:36.574 --> 01:35:38.975
So anyway, that was part of my, part of my favorite part.

01:35:38.975 --> 01:35:39.725
It's cool.

01:35:39.784 --> 01:35:41.279
So, um, very interesting.

01:35:41.279 --> 01:35:45.125
I think that's probably, that was the last interesting podcast of this.

01:35:45.125 --> 01:35:53.194
Oh, it's Stu Prayer, Ruby Stu Dead, Floyd and Musketeer Grip Weed together.

01:35:53.255 --> 01:35:53.975
They're everywhere.

01:35:53.975 --> 01:35:55.954
I, I've never seen Ruby Stew'cause they're brand new.

01:35:57.064 --> 01:36:00.064
I've seen Dead Floyd at least eight times.

01:36:00.215 --> 01:36:00.545
Yeah.

01:36:00.635 --> 01:36:03.515
And I've seen Musketeer Grip weed at least 15 times.

01:36:03.545 --> 01:36:09.395
'cause I was friends with some of their like OG people back in like 99, 2000.

01:36:09.965 --> 01:36:11.555
Stu didn't come along until 10 years later.

01:36:12.215 --> 01:36:13.744
So Stu and I have known each other a long time.

01:36:14.225 --> 01:36:14.645
That's awesome.

01:36:14.645 --> 01:36:14.914
Sue's great.

01:36:14.914 --> 01:36:15.215
And

01:36:15.484 --> 01:36:16.265
have you seen any of those?

01:36:16.475 --> 01:36:16.654
Yeah.

01:36:17.135 --> 01:36:17.555
Which ones?

01:36:17.704 --> 01:36:18.364
I saw Dead Floyd.

01:36:18.664 --> 01:36:18.875
Okay.

01:36:18.935 --> 01:36:19.204
Yeah.

01:36:19.210 --> 01:36:19.220
Yeah.

01:36:19.414 --> 01:36:19.899
At the Aggie.

01:36:19.960 --> 01:36:21.260
Oh yeah, it's great.

01:36:21.640 --> 01:36:22.260
The Aggie.

01:36:23.104 --> 01:36:24.095
It was pretty cool.

01:36:24.454 --> 01:36:24.574
Yeah.

01:36:24.784 --> 01:36:26.135
Have you been involved with music?

01:36:26.194 --> 01:36:26.524
Really?

01:36:26.944 --> 01:36:27.154
Yeah.

01:36:27.244 --> 01:36:29.045
Like outside of like, have you created music?

01:36:29.284 --> 01:36:29.524
Yeah.

01:36:30.034 --> 01:36:30.395
You have?

01:36:30.604 --> 01:36:30.875
Oh yeah.

01:36:31.085 --> 01:36:31.625
Like what kind?

01:36:32.194 --> 01:36:32.494
What?

01:36:32.765 --> 01:36:33.185
Um.

01:36:33.949 --> 01:36:34.609
All kinds.

01:36:34.850 --> 01:36:35.449
I'm a rapper.

01:36:36.170 --> 01:36:36.744
I'm not a rapper.

01:36:36.744 --> 01:36:39.079
For me, I'm not a rapper.

01:36:39.319 --> 01:36:39.680
No.

01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:42.859
Uh, my wife is a wonderful vocal.

01:36:42.859 --> 01:36:42.899
Oh yeah.

01:36:42.899 --> 01:36:42.930
She's a singer.

01:36:42.930 --> 01:36:43.345
Vocalist.

01:36:43.350 --> 01:36:43.460
Yeah.

01:36:43.579 --> 01:36:48.739
Uh, session vocalist has done backup on tracks for people and her own music as well.

01:36:49.130 --> 01:36:52.670
Um, anything you can just say, I grew up, you know, uh, yeah, sure.

01:36:52.789 --> 01:36:53.659
Uh, I could show you.

01:36:54.079 --> 01:37:02.720
Um, but I grew up playing, you know, guitar and piano and really, uh, played four or five instruments in the band and orchestra.

01:37:02.725 --> 01:37:02.784
Really?

01:37:02.784 --> 01:37:02.944
Damn.

01:37:03.409 --> 01:37:03.890
Really?

01:37:03.890 --> 01:37:03.979
What?

01:37:03.979 --> 01:37:06.409
So I played, why haven't you told me about this before?

01:37:06.409 --> 01:37:08.510
Tuba and baritone and what?

01:37:08.539 --> 01:37:12.649
Trombone and, uh, a lot of brass for me.

01:37:12.680 --> 01:37:12.979
Yeah.

01:37:13.010 --> 01:37:13.159
But

01:37:13.159 --> 01:37:14.630
then also guitar and more

01:37:14.689 --> 01:37:15.770
guitar and more And

01:37:15.770 --> 01:37:18.470
you left it all behind to pursue soccer or what?

01:37:18.529 --> 01:37:19.640
Yeah, I mean, really.

01:37:19.699 --> 01:37:20.060
Okay.

01:37:20.060 --> 01:37:21.409
It's kinda like that sometimes.

01:37:21.409 --> 01:37:21.770
Yeah.

01:37:22.039 --> 01:37:22.520
I mean, you kind

01:37:22.520 --> 01:37:23.899
of gotta choose what you're gonna do

01:37:24.079 --> 01:37:26.000
when you are 16.

01:37:26.630 --> 01:37:29.329
You think you have no time,

01:37:30.140 --> 01:37:30.680
right.

01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:35.539
You think you are the busiest person and, and then you become 22.

01:37:35.930 --> 01:37:37.250
Oh, spoiler alert.

01:37:37.255 --> 01:37:37.385
30.

01:37:38.210 --> 01:37:38.329
30.

01:37:38.329 --> 01:37:39.319
You have more time

01:37:39.439 --> 01:37:40.729
than you will ever have again.

01:37:41.239 --> 01:37:44.630
And it, it is, that becomes more true every year.

01:37:44.869 --> 01:37:45.979
I'm so sorry to say.

01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:47.479
Um, can't wait.

01:37:47.810 --> 01:37:50.539
Um, but yeah, no, I played, I played a lot of stuff.

01:37:50.569 --> 01:37:52.520
I was in a, I was in a screamo band.

01:37:53.465 --> 01:37:56.614
A hardcore band, that kind of stuff.

01:37:56.614 --> 01:37:58.354
I was the screamer, I was the guitar player.

01:37:58.385 --> 01:37:58.925
What?

01:37:59.194 --> 01:38:02.720
Uh, we started out our, uh, our name was the Moist Ettes.

01:38:03.220 --> 01:38:04.760
The Moist Teles.

01:38:04.939 --> 01:38:05.319
The moist.

01:38:05.500 --> 01:38:07.805
No, it, it was not, it was really bad.

01:38:08.045 --> 01:38:09.604
No, it was not just me and

01:38:09.604 --> 01:38:11.255
a couple buddies, but we changed it.

01:38:11.260 --> 01:38:11.439
You were cool.

01:38:11.765 --> 01:38:12.635
We changed it.

01:38:12.904 --> 01:38:14.284
Uh, we became ace.

01:38:15.064 --> 01:38:15.875
That's way better.

01:38:15.904 --> 01:38:16.925
Uh, a YCE.

01:38:18.260 --> 01:38:18.479
Any,

01:38:18.604 --> 01:38:21.005
any word that says moist in it is basically, yeah.

01:38:21.005 --> 01:38:22.744
No, it was intentionally inflammatory.

01:38:22.750 --> 01:38:24.479
Well always tell that's even worse, right?

01:38:24.659 --> 01:38:25.279
The combination.

01:38:25.284 --> 01:38:25.835
But Ace was

01:38:25.835 --> 01:38:26.225
cool.

01:38:26.284 --> 01:38:26.975
A YCE.

01:38:26.975 --> 01:38:27.574
It's way better.

01:38:27.635 --> 01:38:29.104
Uh, it stood for all you can eat.

01:38:29.465 --> 01:38:31.085
Um, and that's bitter.

01:38:31.145 --> 01:38:32.375
Uh, yeah.

01:38:32.435 --> 01:38:33.125
No, it was awesome.

01:38:33.215 --> 01:38:36.574
Fuzzy tacos has the little coozies that say, eat me on the side.

01:38:36.604 --> 01:38:37.774
I love fuzzy tacos.

01:38:37.774 --> 01:38:37.835
Yeah.

01:38:38.074 --> 01:38:38.734
Anyway, that

01:38:38.734 --> 01:38:39.479
was so random.

01:38:39.710 --> 01:38:40.000
Well,

01:38:40.060 --> 01:38:41.104
but it is all you could eat.

01:38:41.225 --> 01:38:41.555
You know?

01:38:41.614 --> 01:38:42.064
Eat me.

01:38:43.654 --> 01:38:43.685
Okay.

01:38:43.685 --> 01:38:44.795
That's where Kurt's brain goes.

01:38:44.854 --> 01:38:45.875
Well, what do you think about when you

01:38:45.875 --> 01:38:46.925
think about fuzzy tacos?

01:38:46.925 --> 01:38:48.020
I don't know what you think about.

01:38:48.020 --> 01:38:50.465
I think about, uh, yummy margaritas and tacos.

01:38:50.465 --> 01:38:50.494
I

01:38:50.494 --> 01:38:51.279
don't if they do this here.

01:38:51.635 --> 01:38:58.265
Um, but on the inside of the stall at Fuzzy's Tacos, it says we put the TNA in taco.

01:39:01.774 --> 01:39:02.015
What?

01:39:02.015 --> 01:39:02.045
I

01:39:02.555 --> 01:39:03.064
don't get it.

01:39:03.064 --> 01:39:03.215
For

01:39:03.215 --> 01:39:03.635
real.

01:39:03.875 --> 01:39:04.414
Yeah.

01:39:05.164 --> 01:39:06.784
No, I was not seen that.

01:39:06.965 --> 01:39:09.010
The og fuzzy tacos coming TNA,

01:39:09.335 --> 01:39:10.295
it was kind of dirty.

01:39:10.654 --> 01:39:13.085
TA interesting tits and ass, I guess.

01:39:13.085 --> 01:39:13.145
Oh,

01:39:13.534 --> 01:39:14.104
yeah.

01:39:14.109 --> 01:39:15.409
I, I, I mean, wow.

01:39:16.880 --> 01:39:22.760
I think they, I think the og it's so that's why they're kind of like Chiba hut, like they're kind of intentionally politically incorrect.

01:39:22.760 --> 01:39:25.250
Like Chia Hut came out and kind of grew Chiba Hut

01:39:25.279 --> 01:39:25.670
Totally.

01:39:26.060 --> 01:39:28.250
Before Louis Weed was legal anywhere.

01:39:28.310 --> 01:39:28.670
Totally.

01:39:28.729 --> 01:39:29.000
Right.

01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:30.829
Like they were in banking.

01:39:30.829 --> 01:39:32.869
We used to say the scouts get the arrows.

01:39:33.229 --> 01:39:33.470
Yep.

01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:38.329
Uh, and Chia Hut kind of did for a while, but they've been able to like grow amazingly.

01:39:38.390 --> 01:39:38.720
Sure.

01:39:38.720 --> 01:39:39.350
I love Cuba Hunt.

01:39:39.920 --> 01:39:40.430
Good brand.

01:39:40.550 --> 01:39:43.789
It's a great brand and well and good, good quality, good brand and good quality.

01:39:43.819 --> 01:39:43.880
Yeah.

01:39:43.880 --> 01:39:44.750
Consist that goes a long way.

01:39:44.750 --> 01:39:45.079
Consistency.

01:39:45.140 --> 01:39:46.189
Although it's annoying as hell.

01:39:46.189 --> 01:39:50.989
That freaking big sandwich costs$17 or whatever now.

01:39:50.989 --> 01:39:51.739
But that's just annoying.

01:39:51.979 --> 01:39:55.460
You do cost anything you say it's horrible, but at least you can eat it twice.

01:39:56.000 --> 01:39:57.500
Well, and have you been to Silver Mine?

01:39:58.340 --> 01:39:58.850
No,

01:39:59.119 --> 01:40:01.430
it's half the sandwich for twice the price.

01:40:01.489 --> 01:40:02.060
Oh really?

01:40:02.119 --> 01:40:05.000
And a third of the quality in my, no, I don't go.

01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:05.090
Nice.

01:40:05.345 --> 01:40:05.465
I

01:40:05.470 --> 01:40:08.060
I really don't go anywhere with Shiva Hut if I'm being real.

01:40:08.180 --> 01:40:08.510
Yeah.

01:40:08.569 --> 01:40:11.329
Uh, shout out Shi Hut to Mark and you guys should be a sponsor.

01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:11.510
Yeah.

01:40:11.510 --> 01:40:11.869
Mark.

01:40:11.875 --> 01:40:12.185
It's Mark.

01:40:12.350 --> 01:40:12.470
Yeah.

01:40:12.470 --> 01:40:14.630
Episode 1 38 maybe.

01:40:14.630 --> 01:40:14.689
Whoa.

01:40:15.109 --> 01:40:15.409
That's

01:40:15.414 --> 01:40:15.545
incredible.

01:40:15.645 --> 01:40:16.699
You did not just pull that out.

01:40:16.699 --> 01:40:17.239
I think so.

01:40:17.239 --> 01:40:18.199
Dunno if that's right.

01:40:18.484 --> 01:40:18.904
I'd be curious.

01:40:19.364 --> 01:40:20.960
Do you want a be a bottle ofor on it?

01:40:21.289 --> 01:40:21.649
Alert.

01:40:22.699 --> 01:40:24.680
I'll give you a bottle of alert for free.

01:40:25.189 --> 01:40:26.270
No, but sure.

01:40:26.420 --> 01:40:27.229
Can you buy this?

01:40:27.229 --> 01:40:27.770
Like here?

01:40:27.859 --> 01:40:28.039
Yeah.

01:40:28.760 --> 01:40:29.149
Uh, no.

01:40:29.154 --> 01:40:31.640
Wait, they regular You didn't used to.

01:40:31.895 --> 01:40:32.185
Okay.

01:40:32.189 --> 01:40:34.310
Jepson's is, uh, that's basically all they made.

01:40:34.340 --> 01:40:36.920
They, they do have a barrel aged mallor.

01:40:37.159 --> 01:40:37.699
Oh damn.

01:40:38.569 --> 01:40:38.659
God.

01:40:38.659 --> 01:40:38.869
Awful.

01:40:38.869 --> 01:40:39.800
So extra.

01:40:39.800 --> 01:40:40.279
It's disgusting.

01:40:40.279 --> 01:40:40.699
Awesome.

01:40:41.630 --> 01:40:43.069
Um, is it 1 38?

01:40:43.069 --> 01:40:43.819
But you can,

01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:44.779
I'm coming to it.

01:40:45.024 --> 01:40:45.604
I'm working on my way down.

01:40:45.604 --> 01:40:46.699
You can find it at the liquor store now.

01:40:46.729 --> 01:40:47.180
We'll see.

01:40:47.449 --> 01:40:48.619
I know for a fact you can get it.

01:40:48.619 --> 01:40:50.060
The one on Mulberry, the big one.

01:40:50.060 --> 01:40:50.630
Supermarket.

01:40:50.630 --> 01:40:52.430
Mulberry Max Supermarket's.

01:40:52.430 --> 01:40:52.939
My store.

01:40:53.869 --> 01:40:54.020
Yeah.

01:40:54.199 --> 01:40:54.949
Ooh, no.

01:40:55.130 --> 01:40:56.180
That was Greg Rader.

01:40:56.810 --> 01:40:58.550
Oh 1 39 1 30.

01:41:00.350 --> 01:41:01.925
Kurt owes me my Lord.

01:41:02.385 --> 01:41:03.564
My Lord, my Lord.

01:41:03.829 --> 01:41:05.510
I'll buy you by every time I think about it.

01:41:05.510 --> 01:41:06.409
I think of Shrek.

01:41:07.609 --> 01:41:08.479
Shrek would love my Lord.

01:41:08.479 --> 01:41:09.229
Pick number three.

01:41:09.409 --> 01:41:10.010
Number three.

01:41:10.010 --> 01:41:10.460
My Lord.

01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:11.000
Three.

01:41:11.029 --> 01:41:11.930
I was so close.

01:41:11.930 --> 01:41:12.140
What?

01:41:12.140 --> 01:41:14.600
Number nine Instead of one 30.

01:41:14.604 --> 01:41:14.614
Lord.

01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:15.140
Eight.

01:41:15.649 --> 01:41:16.609
That was so close.

01:41:16.640 --> 01:41:16.850
You.

01:41:16.850 --> 01:41:18.109
That was impressive.

01:41:18.109 --> 01:41:19.100
Still nonetheless.

01:41:19.100 --> 01:41:19.159
Yeah.

01:41:19.579 --> 01:41:21.500
Um, are you ready for the loco experience?

01:41:22.130 --> 01:41:22.399
Ben?

01:42:05.854 --> 01:42:08.074
I am prepared yourself.

01:42:08.250 --> 01:42:09.125
Not prepared, but ready.

01:42:09.154 --> 01:42:09.364
Oh,

01:42:09.994 --> 01:42:12.725
maybe before we go, we should have a shot of the infinity bottle.

01:42:13.984 --> 01:42:14.284
I'll get it.

01:42:14.314 --> 01:42:14.614
Oh.

01:42:14.614 --> 01:42:16.505
How much stuff is in this right now?

01:42:16.564 --> 01:42:21.005
Uh, all the stuff, like, everything that comes through, although I should regret some Mylo.

01:42:21.694 --> 01:42:24.845
Uh, I think that would have made the whole thing glow.

01:42:24.875 --> 01:42:25.954
You could taste the gin.

01:42:26.135 --> 01:42:28.835
Wait, Kurt, there is the smallest there is

01:42:28.835 --> 01:42:29.345
gin.

01:42:29.404 --> 01:42:31.145
Tiny bourbon for you.

01:42:31.145 --> 01:42:31.835
Tequila.

01:42:32.854 --> 01:42:33.395
What else?

01:42:34.385 --> 01:42:34.715
Uh,

01:42:35.975 --> 01:42:38.045
is there any like mostly that rum?

01:42:39.454 --> 01:42:40.569
No, we don't really drink rum.

01:42:40.569 --> 01:42:42.335
I haven't seen nobody really drinks rum.

01:42:42.340 --> 01:42:42.529
Yeah.

01:42:43.114 --> 01:42:45.154
Well, this is kind of a straight or straight honest.

01:42:45.154 --> 01:42:45.305
Oh, I'm so

01:42:45.305 --> 01:42:45.755
scared.

01:42:45.755 --> 01:42:47.795
You can taste the No, it actually tastes nice.

01:42:47.975 --> 01:42:48.694
No way.

01:42:48.814 --> 01:42:49.805
Yeah, there's no shot.

01:42:49.805 --> 01:42:51.635
This, you can taste the gin just a little bit.

01:42:51.789 --> 01:42:52.715
You, you could have barely.

01:42:53.045 --> 01:42:54.125
There's enough to cover your tongue.

01:42:54.215 --> 01:42:54.364
Ava.

01:42:54.364 --> 01:42:55.085
Don't worry about it.

01:42:55.715 --> 01:42:59.555
So this is the, the Infinity bottles supposed to be a little bit everything.

01:42:59.555 --> 01:42:59.944
It smells

01:42:59.944 --> 01:43:01.265
nicer than I anticipated.

01:43:01.270 --> 01:43:01.970
It doesn't smell nice.

01:43:01.970 --> 01:43:02.494
Its tasty

01:43:02.555 --> 01:43:04.505
Like this now might be a thing.

01:43:04.805 --> 01:43:06.904
Am I gonna, am I gonna be useless tomorrow?

01:43:06.904 --> 01:43:09.185
It reminds me of something yours.

01:43:09.185 --> 01:43:10.265
We didn't even cheers.

01:43:10.534 --> 01:43:11.284
Oh, too late.

01:43:11.284 --> 01:43:11.375
What?

01:43:11.375 --> 01:43:13.805
Hell yeah, it's, sorry.

01:43:14.284 --> 01:43:15.755
Here, I'll cheers you if you need the incursion.

01:43:15.755 --> 01:43:15.814
I

01:43:16.289 --> 01:43:16.369
do.

01:43:18.845 --> 01:43:19.895
No, this is actually gone.

01:43:19.895 --> 01:43:20.284
Awful.

01:43:21.064 --> 01:43:21.965
No it's not.

01:43:23.255 --> 01:43:24.095
No it's not.

01:43:24.635 --> 01:43:25.055
It's not.

01:43:25.654 --> 01:43:32.194
It's got a weird floral, but otherwise it's like, these are medium shelf bourbons and tequilas.

01:43:32.194 --> 01:43:32.494
Sure.

01:43:32.494 --> 01:43:34.145
But I expected this to be much worse.

01:43:34.175 --> 01:43:43.265
Yeah, that's what I get a lot like And the gin's fading out a little bit so you don't really have the floral of the gin as much anymore.

01:43:43.625 --> 01:43:45.904
There was a time when the gin was like 25% of it.

01:43:45.904 --> 01:43:47.704
Now it's only like 10% of it.

01:43:47.704 --> 01:43:48.274
Maybe.

01:43:49.505 --> 01:43:52.234
'cause actually I haven't had to refill the gin.

01:43:52.265 --> 01:43:54.635
'cause gin.

01:43:54.725 --> 01:43:55.505
Nobody wants to drink

01:43:56.555 --> 01:43:56.645
gin.

01:43:56.645 --> 01:43:57.904
It's hard to sell gin on.

01:43:57.904 --> 01:44:00.395
I uh, gin with a seltzer is good though.

01:44:00.590 --> 01:44:00.880
Yeah.

01:44:00.994 --> 01:44:01.175
Yeah.

01:44:01.324 --> 01:44:01.654
Could be.

01:44:01.984 --> 01:44:02.104
Yeah.

01:44:02.345 --> 01:44:03.604
Could be that bad, huh?

01:44:03.604 --> 01:44:03.965
Ava?

01:44:04.324 --> 01:44:06.425
It, you know, it's just not for you idea of when I used to steal.

01:44:06.935 --> 01:44:09.904
Like, when I first started drinking, sorry, sorry, sorry.

01:44:10.145 --> 01:44:15.814
This reminds me of when I first started drink in high school and we would steal like whatever we could off of like my parents.

01:44:16.354 --> 01:44:16.414
Yeah.

01:44:16.414 --> 01:44:20.854
And my mom always had like some like dark gross, like, oh, that's metaphor, like bourbon.

01:44:20.944 --> 01:44:23.465
And it really, really reminds me like that.

01:44:23.494 --> 01:44:24.574
'cause I don't ever drink.

01:44:24.904 --> 01:44:25.835
I honestly, you, you try

01:44:25.835 --> 01:44:26.645
not to taste it.

01:44:27.390 --> 01:44:27.694
Honestly, honestly,

01:44:27.694 --> 01:44:33.454
don't think I've drank any dark liquor from the age of like 17 till probably today.

01:44:33.694 --> 01:44:33.755
Wow.

01:44:33.994 --> 01:44:40.085
There's never a time at a party where I'm like, oh, I need to drink so bad, I'm gonna drink that dark liquor, like never over my dead body.

01:44:40.085 --> 01:44:40.515
So yeah.

01:44:40.515 --> 01:44:40.630
Interesting.

01:44:40.770 --> 01:44:43.354
So do Germa that, that's just like brought back some like

01:44:43.744 --> 01:44:44.404
no whiskey

01:44:44.704 --> 01:44:45.005
feelings?

01:44:45.005 --> 01:44:45.515
No.

01:44:45.694 --> 01:44:51.904
Like Jaden really loves like Crown and like whiskey and like, like he likes like all that stuff and I just like never am.

01:44:52.324 --> 01:44:53.750
It's really like you don't, can't

01:44:53.750 --> 01:44:55.295
meet anybody that loves Crown anymore.

01:44:56.675 --> 01:44:56.975
No.

01:44:56.975 --> 01:44:57.814
Crown Apple never.

01:44:57.814 --> 01:44:59.345
It used to be like kind of famous.

01:45:00.020 --> 01:45:02.119
For being, you go tasty every

01:45:02.119 --> 01:45:03.739
single time it comes in the purple bag, right?

01:45:03.739 --> 01:45:03.800
Yeah.

01:45:04.369 --> 01:45:06.140
I probably have 45 purple bags.

01:45:06.229 --> 01:45:13.220
I'm like, one day I wanna like one day like crochet something out of it or like make something, make blank Like a blankie, but like, so a onesie.

01:45:13.220 --> 01:45:13.550
If you

01:45:13.550 --> 01:45:18.170
could make we get there probably in a couple months onesie, that would be a amazing.

01:45:18.350 --> 01:45:19.460
Do you think there's somebody that I could take

01:45:19.460 --> 01:45:19.789
that to?

01:45:19.835 --> 01:45:20.675
'cause I'm really willing sell.

01:45:20.704 --> 01:45:20.994
Yeah.

01:45:20.994 --> 01:45:21.170
There's chops

01:45:21.170 --> 01:45:23.715
that couldn't like, turn it all into a fucking thing because I collect them.

01:45:23.750 --> 01:45:25.159
cause it feels like it bougie.

01:45:25.159 --> 01:45:27.649
Like when I take it out the bag, I'm like, I don't wanna tos the trash.

01:45:27.755 --> 01:45:28.100
It, I mean it would

01:45:28.100 --> 01:45:29.779
still probably cost you$400.

01:45:30.170 --> 01:45:30.380
Oh hell no.

01:45:30.380 --> 01:45:31.220
Sorry, Jayden.

01:45:31.220 --> 01:45:31.819
It's not happening.

01:45:32.569 --> 01:45:35.119
But I could find you resources probably.

01:45:35.329 --> 01:45:35.449
Yeah.

01:45:35.449 --> 01:45:35.960
Yeah, yeah.

01:45:35.989 --> 01:45:39.619
So Ava, I want to turn it to you before we let Ben do the local experience.

01:45:39.619 --> 01:45:39.649
Okay.

01:45:39.979 --> 01:45:44.034
Um, you're looking for sales, you're, look, you're stay here in Fort Collins.

01:45:44.034 --> 01:45:47.510
Stay here in Fort Collins, but you're, you're happy you came here for college?

01:45:47.539 --> 01:45:47.960
Yeah.

01:45:47.960 --> 01:45:50.090
Honestly, best decision of my entire life.

01:45:50.149 --> 01:45:52.460
Um, not in like a sarcastic way.

01:45:52.460 --> 01:45:55.489
Like I, I'm so grateful for everything Colorado has given me.

01:45:55.819 --> 01:45:59.359
I feel like I got really lucky coming to Loco and I found like a great community here.

01:45:59.689 --> 01:46:01.159
And my friends have been incredible.

01:46:01.159 --> 01:46:03.020
I've lived with all of'em all four years.

01:46:03.170 --> 01:46:03.289
Wow.

01:46:03.289 --> 01:46:04.039
Of college.

01:46:04.310 --> 01:46:04.550
Yeah.

01:46:04.550 --> 01:46:09.319
My roommate, my freshman roommate that we met off of like, you know, a little app on Instagram or whatever.

01:46:09.380 --> 01:46:09.500
Awesome.

01:46:09.500 --> 01:46:12.380
We still live together today and we're planning on living together next year.

01:46:12.680 --> 01:46:12.859
Yeah.

01:46:12.859 --> 01:46:14.510
I got really lucky with friends here.

01:46:14.569 --> 01:46:16.130
Um, they're like my lifeline.

01:46:16.864 --> 01:46:21.364
Um, yeah, I don't, I don't really plan on leaving Colorado anytime soon.

01:46:21.784 --> 01:46:26.074
You know, eventually I'd like to settle down where my family is in California.

01:46:26.135 --> 01:46:26.194
Yeah.

01:46:26.194 --> 01:46:30.694
And, you know, I like to tell myself eventually I'm gonna be making the money where I can live comfortably in California,

01:46:31.539 --> 01:46:34.770
which I don't know if that all haha everything changes.

01:46:34.960 --> 01:46:35.250
Yeah.

01:46:35.314 --> 01:46:36.305
We'll see about that.

01:46:36.305 --> 01:46:36.904
We'll see about

01:46:36.904 --> 01:46:37.175
that.

01:46:37.175 --> 01:46:42.244
But that's, that's the goal, you know, I'd love to live near my brother and not have to fly every time I wanna see my family.

01:46:42.574 --> 01:46:42.635
Yeah.

01:46:42.664 --> 01:46:43.864
But it's, it's a two hour flight.

01:46:43.864 --> 01:46:44.795
Like, it's not the end of the world.

01:46:44.795 --> 01:46:44.854
Yeah.

01:46:44.885 --> 01:46:47.704
And I have DIA like the back of my brain by now.

01:46:47.944 --> 01:46:48.185
Right.

01:46:48.185 --> 01:46:48.694
So it's easy.

01:46:48.694 --> 01:46:51.604
But yeah, overall I've, I feel like my education was worth it.

01:46:51.604 --> 01:46:53.824
I'm glad, I'm glad I came into college.

01:46:53.824 --> 01:46:54.305
Right.

01:46:55.295 --> 01:47:02.914
Not right before, but honestly right as AI was being integrated because I feel like I still got like something outta my education and didn't cheat the whole way through.

01:47:03.034 --> 01:47:03.125
Mm-hmm.

01:47:03.215 --> 01:47:05.524
I fear as in five, yeah.

01:47:05.555 --> 01:47:08.045
Two years from now, higher education isn't gonna be worth it.

01:47:08.225 --> 01:47:09.515
Just be a bunch of stupid people.

01:47:09.545 --> 01:47:13.625
I mean, you, I people, including, I, you know, everybody uses chat all day.

01:47:13.625 --> 01:47:19.805
So imagine being a college student, you have 10 assignments to do and you have a shift during the day and you wanna hang out with your friends, you're gonna cheat the entire thing.

01:47:20.045 --> 01:47:25.114
So it's like there's not really, you know, a huge motivator to like get an education anymore.

01:47:25.114 --> 01:47:27.795
Like people aren't really trying as much and it really shows like

01:47:28.149 --> 01:47:31.145
I Well, and like those tools are stupid.

01:47:31.925 --> 01:47:32.284
Yeah.

01:47:32.284 --> 01:47:32.949
They're not very accurate.

01:47:32.949 --> 01:47:38.135
I use them for stuff and sometimes they're spot on and I'm not, and then sometimes I'm, no, you're fricking stupid.

01:47:38.135 --> 01:47:40.534
Like, I know that's not true, what you just said.

01:47:40.564 --> 01:47:40.895
Yeah.

01:47:40.925 --> 01:47:41.854
It's definitely frustrating and

01:47:41.854 --> 01:47:43.685
maybe they'll get smarter, but maybe they'll just.

01:47:44.960 --> 01:47:49.279
Eat the stuff that's already been pooped out by other AI tools.

01:47:49.369 --> 01:47:50.145
Still just hope, right?

01:47:50.149 --> 01:47:51.199
Hope there's a risk of that.

01:47:51.345 --> 01:47:51.545
I hope.

01:47:51.590 --> 01:47:51.949
I think,

01:47:51.949 --> 01:47:52.310
yeah.

01:47:52.399 --> 01:47:56.270
All like api, sorry to speak technically.

01:47:56.390 --> 01:47:56.510
Mm-hmm.

01:47:56.750 --> 01:47:57.170
Yeah, please.

01:47:57.170 --> 01:48:08.359
I think that the biggest benefit of AI coming in the next two to three years is that we'll have API list integration across all systems and that will mean data transfer happens faster.

01:48:08.420 --> 01:48:20.265
It will mean that you can talk to a system and ask it to do an action that will actually pull Right now, that's the only thing that I personally go go to it for because I refuse to be one of these nis.

01:48:20.345 --> 01:48:27.319
I don't wanna be received only use as AI for whatever, but, um, I don't think it's great as a knowledge base.

01:48:27.409 --> 01:48:30.770
Uh, we've already seen that social media is terrible as a knowledge base.

01:48:30.770 --> 01:48:30.859
Mm-hmm.

01:48:31.100 --> 01:48:31.250
Right?

01:48:31.250 --> 01:48:31.430
Yeah.

01:48:31.460 --> 01:48:38.449
And so if, how is this better in some ways learns what you like and serves up the things that you like, and you say, tell me the truth about blank's.

01:48:38.750 --> 01:48:40.340
Gonna tell, tell you blow up my, you wanna hear, serve,

01:48:40.340 --> 01:48:44.180
blow, smoke up my skirt and tell me you love me and I'll be yours.

01:48:44.180 --> 01:48:45.199
It wants to be used.

01:48:45.199 --> 01:48:45.409
Yeah.

01:48:45.409 --> 01:48:45.529
It is

01:48:45.529 --> 01:48:47.185
trained to want to be used.

01:48:47.600 --> 01:48:48.109
Of course it does.

01:48:48.109 --> 01:48:50.840
And therefore it's going to validate your innermost thoughts.

01:48:50.899 --> 01:48:50.989
Yep.

01:48:51.020 --> 01:48:52.520
As much as it can.

01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:53.149
A hundred percent.

01:48:54.109 --> 01:48:54.500
But

01:48:54.829 --> 01:48:55.609
I saw it's gonna

01:48:55.609 --> 01:48:58.444
be awesome when you go, Hey, can you connect this software to that software?

01:48:58.444 --> 01:48:58.564
Yeah.

01:48:58.564 --> 01:48:59.149
And it goes Yep.

01:48:59.210 --> 01:49:00.079
And you don't have to do, done, you don't have to do anything.

01:49:01.310 --> 01:49:01.850
That's great.

01:49:01.850 --> 01:49:01.909
Yeah.

01:49:02.180 --> 01:49:03.619
And that's what that is.

01:49:03.619 --> 01:49:04.729
Should be the intended use.

01:49:04.850 --> 01:49:05.090
Yeah.

01:49:05.090 --> 01:49:06.199
Don't let it think for you.

01:49:06.199 --> 01:49:07.279
Let it do stuff for you.

01:49:07.310 --> 01:49:10.774
Let it give you, let it do monotonous tasks, people, tasks, bi.

01:49:11.899 --> 01:49:12.199
Yep.

01:49:12.380 --> 01:49:12.979
All that stuff.

01:49:12.979 --> 01:49:17.840
And the, when those things are connecting to yourself, you still draw the conclusion, not it.

01:49:17.840 --> 01:49:18.500
I agree with that.

01:49:18.920 --> 01:49:19.130
Yeah.

01:49:19.189 --> 01:49:19.520
I saw

01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:26.270
an interesting, um, perspective on it that, you know, like these days when you're scroll, like you can't even tell actually genuinely what's real or not.

01:49:26.300 --> 01:49:26.510
Yeah.

01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:32.510
I hope it gets to a point where it's so confusing to know, um, like what's real or not.

01:49:32.510 --> 01:49:39.590
And, and it, it's to the point where it's like it's not even worth it and kind of like the craze and the suction of social media kind of goes away.

01:49:39.680 --> 01:49:39.859
Totally.

01:49:39.859 --> 01:49:39.869
Yeah.

01:49:40.010 --> 01:49:41.239
I really hope for that.

01:49:41.510 --> 01:49:42.529
'cause it is really sad.

01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:46.369
Cross my fingers age that social media is like consuming everybody's everything.

01:49:46.375 --> 01:49:46.444
Even

01:49:46.465 --> 01:49:46.685
now.

01:49:47.154 --> 01:49:47.444
Yeah.

01:49:48.529 --> 01:49:51.564
Even on real videos, the top comment half the time is, yeah.

01:49:51.564 --> 01:49:53.149
Is this ai, is this ai Totally.

01:49:53.149 --> 01:49:53.869
Some of the most

01:49:53.869 --> 01:50:01.699
successful exceeding, you know, that some of the most successful and freethinking people I know have never been involved in social media.

01:50:01.699 --> 01:50:02.119
Yeah, totally.

01:50:02.600 --> 01:50:04.369
And I love them for it.

01:50:04.369 --> 01:50:04.380
Yeah.

01:50:04.430 --> 01:50:04.489
Yeah.

01:50:04.489 --> 01:50:06.529
Honestly, like, and it's cool.

01:50:06.619 --> 01:50:06.979
Totally.

01:50:07.189 --> 01:50:10.729
And so that's weird to think that,

01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:12.020
not to say don't use it at all.

01:50:12.020 --> 01:50:12.289
Yeah.

01:50:12.744 --> 01:50:12.965
But,

01:50:13.279 --> 01:50:16.164
but I, I, like I said, I wish I could delete it all.

01:50:17.015 --> 01:50:31.010
But like, I actually like, I, there's like a weird, like, especially with people in Gen Z, it's like you have like almost, I mean obviously it's super addictive, but like without it, you feel so outta touch, which is so sad because you should not feel outta touch with not being on search.

01:50:31.010 --> 01:50:32.015
Well, and not, not just

01:50:32.015 --> 01:50:32.225
that.

01:50:32.225 --> 01:50:35.734
I would say, um, people use chat as a search engine.

01:50:35.854 --> 01:50:36.034
Mm-hmm.

01:50:36.364 --> 01:50:39.125
Uh, it takes much more energy, way more water.

01:50:39.545 --> 01:50:40.130
10 times so much.

01:50:40.130 --> 01:50:40.409
Yeah.

01:50:40.510 --> 01:50:41.130
20 times.

01:50:41.279 --> 01:50:43.234
It's causing a major pollution problem.

01:50:44.015 --> 01:50:44.284
Um, could you

01:50:44.284 --> 01:50:45.185
explain that though?

01:50:45.364 --> 01:50:50.465
'cause when I say that to people, I'm like this, it's like obviously bad for our environment and they're like, how

01:50:51.185 --> 01:50:54.274
there, there's, there's multiple arguments to be made.

01:50:54.364 --> 01:51:06.215
The big one that people are circling around and not nailing down on either side is it takes an insane amount of water to cool the supercomputer that is running AI calculation.

01:51:06.215 --> 01:51:06.305
Right?

01:51:07.354 --> 01:51:12.305
Water obviously is an infinitely renewable resource, as I learned in fifth grade.

01:51:13.055 --> 01:51:17.944
Water that goes away just means it evaporated, goes up in the cloud, right, come back, comes back down.

01:51:18.904 --> 01:51:20.645
That's more or less true.

01:51:22.175 --> 01:51:29.675
There's still power that you're using to do that, that creates smoke and steam and centers are trying to be better about it.

01:51:29.675 --> 01:51:32.074
It's all but a bunch of are going into Arizona.

01:51:32.135 --> 01:51:33.215
It's pr, right?

01:51:33.215 --> 01:51:36.305
Like there's a reason it's going in a place where people are not

01:51:36.335 --> 01:51:36.545
well.

01:51:36.545 --> 01:51:37.619
And in the long run it's like.

01:51:38.824 --> 01:51:46.085
On satellites capturing solar energy and in the absence of heat where it cools those fuckers down real good.

01:51:46.204 --> 01:51:46.444
Totally.

01:51:46.835 --> 01:51:55.864
Well, and it's, it, it, the reality for me in our family, it's about the environmental impact and the social impact.

01:51:55.984 --> 01:51:56.225
Right.

01:51:56.225 --> 01:51:57.845
For me, it's about the mental impact.

01:51:57.850 --> 01:51:58.020
Yeah.

01:51:58.444 --> 01:52:00.935
And if you can't do your own research, yeah.

01:52:00.965 --> 01:52:01.895
You can't be trusted.

01:52:02.585 --> 01:52:03.725
That means you're regurgitating.

01:52:04.204 --> 01:52:12.154
And I believe that outside of academia, I believe that in terms of politics, I believe that in terms of whatever day to day, just normal conversation.

01:52:12.244 --> 01:52:12.545
Yeah.

01:52:12.664 --> 01:52:14.015
Have you done your own research?

01:52:14.255 --> 01:52:15.305
Is this your thought?

01:52:15.364 --> 01:52:17.074
Or you just telling me someone else?

01:52:17.074 --> 01:52:18.454
It's, oh man.

01:52:18.454 --> 01:52:18.604
Yeah.

01:52:18.604 --> 01:52:19.505
It's goodwill hunting.

01:52:19.715 --> 01:52:19.864
Right.

01:52:19.895 --> 01:52:21.154
Oh, you've read that book too?

01:52:21.154 --> 01:52:22.295
Oh, how about them?

01:52:22.295 --> 01:52:22.744
Apples?

01:52:23.319 --> 01:52:23.739
Apples.

01:52:23.739 --> 01:52:25.234
It's that for me.

01:52:25.295 --> 01:52:25.595
Yeah.

01:52:25.595 --> 01:52:26.194
I appreciate

01:52:26.194 --> 01:52:26.375
that.

01:52:26.375 --> 01:52:34.534
And I think that's part of why we resonate well, Ben, is that like my themes, like freethink, you know, think for your damn self.

01:52:34.564 --> 01:52:34.715
Yeah.

01:52:34.984 --> 01:52:36.904
You know, don't let somebody tell you what to think.

01:52:36.904 --> 01:52:37.265
Just mm-hmm.

01:52:37.744 --> 01:52:42.484
Think just do it, you know, work hard enough to gather enough information to make a decision, you know?

01:52:42.484 --> 01:52:42.574
Right.

01:52:43.564 --> 01:52:45.364
Maybe you can trust the news.

01:52:45.364 --> 01:52:46.715
Maybe you can trust the computers.

01:52:46.715 --> 01:52:49.564
Maybe you can trust the internet or the social medias, but maybe you can't.

01:52:49.625 --> 01:52:49.925
Yeah.

01:52:50.375 --> 01:52:54.095
But you can probably trust people not to turn it into a local think tank commercial.

01:52:54.994 --> 01:52:58.475
But you can't, like you, when you're sitting in a room with people and you're like,

01:52:58.534 --> 01:53:00.784
and everybody's got their laptop shut.

01:53:00.994 --> 01:53:01.385
Yeah.

01:53:01.385 --> 01:53:03.574
And they've seen this and you say, I have this problem.

01:53:03.574 --> 01:53:03.784
Right.

01:53:04.984 --> 01:53:07.625
And they're not waiting to speak for themselves and they're actually listening.

01:53:07.654 --> 01:53:07.984
Yeah.

01:53:07.984 --> 01:53:12.515
Then they're like, they're not gonna be like, did you ask chat GTP what it thinks?

01:53:12.784 --> 01:53:12.845
Yeah.

01:53:12.845 --> 01:53:14.680
You can't, well, you can't gt Right.

01:53:14.859 --> 01:53:16.895
You can't fabricate that environment anymore.

01:53:16.925 --> 01:53:17.074
Yeah.

01:53:17.164 --> 01:53:18.125
Outside of a boardroom.

01:53:18.125 --> 01:53:18.185
Yeah.

01:53:18.215 --> 01:53:19.595
Which most companies can't afford.

01:53:20.104 --> 01:53:26.194
And outside of trusted friends, which unfortunately a lot of us just don't have that many.

01:53:26.199 --> 01:53:26.680
They don't.

01:53:26.680 --> 01:53:26.909
Well, they don't know.

01:53:27.814 --> 01:53:33.454
And so to be able to say, come in, we'll give you unbiased opinions.

01:53:33.484 --> 01:53:33.604
Yeah.

01:53:33.604 --> 01:53:33.755
Right.

01:53:33.755 --> 01:53:34.925
Here's our experience is cool.

01:53:35.435 --> 01:53:35.704
Come

01:53:35.704 --> 01:53:36.604
join a free thing.

01:53:36.604 --> 01:53:37.414
The local experience,

01:53:37.805 --> 01:53:38.194
is it me?

01:53:38.194 --> 01:53:38.284
Yes.

01:53:38.314 --> 01:53:38.585
We gotta

01:53:38.585 --> 01:53:38.704
go.

01:53:38.824 --> 01:53:38.944
Yeah.

01:53:38.944 --> 01:53:39.125
It's you.

01:53:40.295 --> 01:53:41.435
Well tell the craziest

01:53:41.494 --> 01:53:42.664
It's almost six 30.

01:53:42.664 --> 01:53:43.385
What's the question?

01:53:43.835 --> 01:53:48.694
What is the craziest, craziest experience of your lifetime that you're willing to share with our list?

01:53:48.725 --> 01:53:49.324
Okay, cool.

01:53:49.414 --> 01:53:49.685
Yeah.

01:53:49.685 --> 01:53:49.925
No.

01:53:49.925 --> 01:53:50.135
Okay.

01:53:50.135 --> 01:53:50.824
I thought about this.

01:53:50.824 --> 01:53:51.875
I've had a lot of jobs.

01:53:51.875 --> 01:53:53.645
I've been fired from a lot of jobs.

01:53:53.645 --> 01:53:54.694
I've quit a lot of jobs.

01:53:54.694 --> 01:53:54.875
Really?

01:53:55.085 --> 01:53:55.835
Oh man.

01:53:56.345 --> 01:53:56.765
Not actually.

01:53:56.765 --> 01:53:57.185
How many jobs

01:53:57.189 --> 01:53:57.840
have you been fired from?

01:53:57.899 --> 01:53:59.074
No, I'm kidding.

01:53:59.255 --> 01:53:59.734
Four.

01:54:00.064 --> 01:54:00.274
Okay.

01:54:00.335 --> 01:54:04.654
Um, uh, I've broken up concrete with my bare hands.

01:54:04.774 --> 01:54:09.274
I've been fired from software jobs for whatever, everything in between.

01:54:09.515 --> 01:54:15.305
Um, I thought that I could find some weird work thing to bring in to the local experience.

01:54:15.305 --> 01:54:19.444
I don't think I can, the closest thing I have is like delivering pizzas at pizza.

01:54:19.505 --> 01:54:20.314
Uh, Papa John's.

01:54:20.404 --> 01:54:20.704
Shut up.

01:54:20.704 --> 01:54:21.095
Papa John's.

01:54:21.515 --> 01:54:21.664
Okay.

01:54:21.664 --> 01:54:21.904
Garlic.

01:54:22.350 --> 01:54:22.744
They, they,

01:54:22.835 --> 01:54:22.984
yeah.

01:54:22.984 --> 01:54:23.704
The dipping sauce.

01:54:23.824 --> 01:54:24.005
Yeah.

01:54:24.064 --> 01:54:25.984
Um, and the pepper salad.

01:54:25.984 --> 01:54:29.854
But I would say that the craziest thing that I've gone through or done is, um.

01:54:30.395 --> 01:54:34.954
I was, I was newly single on the side of a very sad and, uh, very hard divorce.

01:54:35.015 --> 01:54:39.274
Um, took some time to myself and went on a solo camping trip with my dog.

01:54:39.935 --> 01:54:39.994
Okay.

01:54:40.149 --> 01:54:40.449
Hell yeah.

01:54:40.475 --> 01:54:41.854
It was awesome.

01:54:42.305 --> 01:54:43.085
So I went, this is pre

01:54:43.085 --> 01:54:43.534
van?

01:54:43.654 --> 01:54:44.614
This was pre Van.

01:54:44.795 --> 01:54:46.774
I was in my Jeep Cherokee.

01:54:47.015 --> 01:54:47.585
Okay.

01:54:47.585 --> 01:54:51.875
And I was in Northwest Arkansas and drove, um, goodness.

01:54:51.875 --> 01:54:54.364
And actually, it's crazy that I'm even saying this.

01:54:54.364 --> 01:55:00.005
'cause this trip, spoiler alert ended in Fort Collins for Tour to Fat when I decided to move here.

01:55:00.064 --> 01:55:00.574
Oh, no shit.

01:55:01.505 --> 01:55:01.625
No way.

01:55:01.685 --> 01:55:06.904
So I drove from northwest Arkansas up through kind of the northwest.

01:55:06.935 --> 01:55:10.654
So I took a route through, um, like over

01:55:10.654 --> 01:55:11.854
to Grand Canyon and stuff.

01:55:11.854 --> 01:55:12.305
First.

01:55:12.305 --> 01:55:13.520
And then up, or No, just, no,

01:55:13.520 --> 01:55:14.914
I went, I went up and over.

01:55:14.975 --> 01:55:15.154
Okay.

01:55:15.154 --> 01:55:20.795
So I actually did, um, Roosevelt, shout out to the Dakotas Nice.

01:55:20.854 --> 01:55:22.145
Uh, Badlands.

01:55:22.505 --> 01:55:24.274
I did Glacier.

01:55:24.515 --> 01:55:30.664
Teton, came back down, did, uh, z like Zion and some of the Western Utah stuff.

01:55:30.664 --> 01:55:30.845
Yeah.

01:55:30.845 --> 01:55:31.265
It was Utah.

01:55:31.505 --> 01:55:35.465
Um, I, well, okay, so that was the plan and

01:55:35.465 --> 01:55:38.345
you're like scarred from this challenge divorce thing?

01:55:38.359 --> 01:55:41.164
I was just, I was just, I was, was, and you don't need talk about it, but I Yeah.

01:55:41.255 --> 01:55:41.824
Remember that.

01:55:41.824 --> 01:55:43.715
It was weird stuff.

01:55:43.715 --> 01:55:44.015
Right.

01:55:44.015 --> 01:55:45.425
Formative for me, it was really hard.

01:55:45.515 --> 01:55:45.694
Totally.

01:55:45.904 --> 01:55:46.720
Um, and,

01:55:46.725 --> 01:55:49.505
and sometimes that's not really your fault, I guess is what I would say.

01:55:49.534 --> 01:55:49.984
Sure, yeah.

01:55:49.984 --> 01:55:50.555
As a man.

01:55:50.854 --> 01:55:50.914
Yeah.

01:55:50.914 --> 01:55:52.895
Because men, like the culture is right now that Yeah.

01:55:52.895 --> 01:55:57.600
Men get blamed if there's a divorce, it's because the man was somehow inadequate or, yeah.

01:55:58.324 --> 01:56:01.354
Mean or something, or if the woman cheats, sure.

01:56:01.354 --> 01:56:03.185
It was clearly the man's fault then.

01:56:03.215 --> 01:56:03.545
Sure.

01:56:03.904 --> 01:56:04.175
Yeah.

01:56:04.175 --> 01:56:04.685
No, not true.

01:56:04.685 --> 01:56:06.034
I, uh, anyway, very formative.

01:56:06.034 --> 01:56:06.364
It, it

01:56:06.515 --> 01:56:07.895
was complicated, but yes.

01:56:07.895 --> 01:56:11.944
No, I, I won't disparage her as in any way, but, um,

01:56:11.975 --> 01:56:15.005
but that season you were, you were in a weird place.

01:56:15.545 --> 01:56:15.675
No blame.

01:56:15.675 --> 01:56:15.685
Yeah,

01:56:15.725 --> 01:56:16.954
but don't take the blame.

01:56:18.305 --> 01:56:19.085
Um,

01:56:19.204 --> 01:56:20.045
that's a movie line too.

01:56:20.045 --> 01:56:20.375
I'm sure.

01:56:20.704 --> 01:56:23.854
There, there wasn't, uh, but yes, I was in a season.

01:56:24.425 --> 01:56:25.654
Oh man, it was just awesome.

01:56:25.805 --> 01:56:27.034
So like a month long trip

01:56:27.034 --> 01:56:27.364
or something?

01:56:27.574 --> 01:56:28.864
Yeah, I think it was three weeks.

01:56:28.925 --> 01:56:30.904
Um, and just you and your, your dog though.

01:56:30.904 --> 01:56:33.515
Me and the dog, and saw places that I'd never seen.

01:56:33.515 --> 01:56:35.885
And Glacier is still my favorite place in the world.

01:56:35.885 --> 01:56:43.145
Say what was your favorite, not just country, um, but in the world, glacier, uh, if you haven't driven and just camped and, yeah.

01:56:43.145 --> 01:56:43.864
Experienced it.

01:56:43.925 --> 01:56:45.125
It was, it was awesome.

01:56:45.185 --> 01:56:47.284
Hiked up into Canada and just did the whole thing.

01:56:47.404 --> 01:56:47.854
Well, love it.

01:56:48.005 --> 01:56:59.494
Um, but I was on my way here, um, from, I was gonna do Teton, Zion, uh, Zion, and then go through Moab and come to Fort Collins Okay.

01:56:59.555 --> 01:57:00.904
To see my buddy Thomas.

01:57:00.965 --> 01:57:04.265
And I was in Teton, and, uh, I camped up on this ridge.

01:57:04.265 --> 01:57:05.914
And if, if you're a camper.

01:57:07.385 --> 01:57:07.699
Oh yeah.

01:57:07.699 --> 01:57:17.029
Send me a message and I will drop you the coordinates, Ben at logo, say Ben at Logo D Tank, because this is the best BLM campsite I have ever been to.

01:57:17.149 --> 01:57:17.449
Okay.

01:57:17.479 --> 01:57:20.600
Uh, it is, uh, just east of Jackson.

01:57:21.170 --> 01:57:22.039
Um Okay.

01:57:22.039 --> 01:57:23.510
Overlooking Teton.

01:57:23.630 --> 01:57:24.079
Nice.

01:57:24.140 --> 01:57:25.970
And it was, can you saved those coordinates?

01:57:26.029 --> 01:57:26.720
I saved them.

01:57:26.810 --> 01:57:31.670
Oh, I saved all you Jenny Lake over there somewhere or something of Oh, even past the highway though?

01:57:31.819 --> 01:57:31.970
Yeah.

01:57:32.510 --> 01:57:32.689
Oh, wow.

01:57:32.720 --> 01:57:34.670
But I save all my coordinates of good camp success.

01:57:34.850 --> 01:57:35.119
That's fun.

01:57:35.119 --> 01:57:35.210
Good.

01:57:35.210 --> 01:57:37.100
But I was there, it was awesome.

01:57:37.460 --> 01:57:54.409
Wind started to pick up and I went to bed, set up my tent and uh, I, I was a boy scout and so I put my fire, staked it down and everything, put my fire dead out, staked it down, like camp was set for the night, uh, did the colds of the touch and went to bed.

01:57:54.890 --> 01:57:59.300
And I woke up to a lightning strike in the campsite.

01:57:59.779 --> 01:58:00.050
What?

01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:05.270
And I look out the tent and the campsite's half on fire.

01:58:05.329 --> 01:58:06.470
Oh my gosh.

01:58:06.619 --> 01:58:09.829
And so I start to think, oh, I didn't put my fire on.

01:58:09.829 --> 01:58:09.859
Oh

01:58:09.859 --> 01:58:10.489
sure.

01:58:10.789 --> 01:58:11.300
Yeah.

01:58:11.300 --> 01:58:12.005
You're like, this is my fault.

01:58:12.005 --> 01:58:13.100
But low and bolt.

01:58:13.100 --> 01:58:16.579
No, it was, it was lightning strike in the campsite or, or it was the guy next.

01:58:16.579 --> 01:58:18.050
So like some trees or something.

01:58:18.050 --> 01:58:19.100
Everything was on fire.

01:58:19.100 --> 01:58:19.159
Do

01:58:19.159 --> 01:58:19.645
you hear a strike?

01:58:20.239 --> 01:58:21.170
Oh, absolutely.

01:58:21.170 --> 01:58:22.069
It was like all night.

01:58:22.069 --> 01:58:23.000
Crazy storm.

01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:24.529
It was already super windy, Uhhuh.

01:58:24.770 --> 01:58:27.380
And I was kind of feeling like, do I even just get in the car?

01:58:27.439 --> 01:58:28.310
Do I just sleep in the car?

01:58:28.489 --> 01:58:28.729
Right.

01:58:28.729 --> 01:58:29.479
Was kind of the thought.

01:58:29.569 --> 01:58:29.779
Right.

01:58:29.779 --> 01:58:30.470
Because it was that kind of wind.

01:58:30.920 --> 01:58:33.140
Um, but yeah, suddenly the campsite's on fire.

01:58:33.680 --> 01:58:36.890
So I go and try to use my shovel to put more out.

01:58:36.949 --> 01:58:38.090
It's outta control.

01:58:38.810 --> 01:58:40.699
I grab the dog Yeah.

01:58:40.699 --> 01:58:41.390
Out of the tent.

01:58:41.449 --> 01:58:42.739
And my pack out of the tent.

01:58:42.890 --> 01:58:49.640
And as I grab my pack goes away, my tent flies away and I am on a cliff and the tent is just gone.

01:58:50.479 --> 01:58:51.380
And, uh, if

01:58:51.380 --> 01:58:52.579
somebody finds it, you can have it.

01:58:52.789 --> 01:58:56.539
So I, yeah, no, I got in the car and drove down the hill.

01:58:56.569 --> 01:58:56.659
Dang.

01:58:56.659 --> 01:58:58.010
And it was probably a 15 minute drive back.

01:58:58.010 --> 01:58:59.569
Did the fire park broader?

01:58:59.600 --> 01:59:00.529
No, no.

01:59:00.529 --> 01:59:01.159
It was fine.

01:59:01.159 --> 01:59:02.359
It started to rain.

01:59:02.420 --> 01:59:02.659
Yeah.

01:59:02.689 --> 01:59:07.489
So I don't, I still don't know if it was lightning or if it was my neighbor's campsite.

01:59:07.489 --> 01:59:07.579
Right.

01:59:07.579 --> 01:59:08.479
Or if some, somehow, yeah.

01:59:08.539 --> 01:59:08.810
It could have

01:59:08.810 --> 01:59:11.840
been just your ma neighbor's campfire didn't get di out with the wind.

01:59:11.840 --> 01:59:13.215
It, but, and it sparked, but, and

01:59:13.215 --> 01:59:14.420
it wasn't raging fire.

01:59:14.420 --> 01:59:16.220
This was embers pouring over Oh.

01:59:16.399 --> 01:59:17.960
Into my, through my campsite.

01:59:18.020 --> 01:59:19.340
So it was very confusing.

01:59:19.340 --> 01:59:20.720
I'm dead asleep, all this stuff.

01:59:20.779 --> 01:59:21.020
Yeah.

01:59:21.020 --> 01:59:21.079
Wow.

01:59:21.260 --> 01:59:23.359
Um, but yeah, I slept in my car.

01:59:23.359 --> 01:59:23.840
That's crazy.

01:59:23.840 --> 01:59:24.890
Skipped Zion.

01:59:24.890 --> 01:59:27.949
Then I didn't sleep, so I've slept in the car.

01:59:27.979 --> 01:59:29.210
I went, well this sucks.

01:59:29.210 --> 01:59:30.079
I've got no tent.

01:59:30.920 --> 01:59:31.609
And you know.

01:59:31.609 --> 01:59:31.819
Right.

01:59:31.819 --> 01:59:33.260
What am I gonna do with Zion?

01:59:33.260 --> 01:59:33.310
What am I gonna do?

01:59:33.319 --> 01:59:35.454
Sleeping in a stupid Cherokee with no blankies and nothing.

01:59:35.460 --> 01:59:38.840
And now that I've been to Zion, I go, oh, I could have slept in the car.

01:59:38.840 --> 01:59:40.310
There's a million, whatever.

01:59:40.609 --> 01:59:41.810
But I came through Fort Collins.

01:59:41.869 --> 01:59:42.470
Oh, interesting.

01:59:42.560 --> 01:59:52.880
And, uh, so I drove straight here the next day and I threw all my stuff out on the lawn at City Park and let it dry and took a nap at City Park.

01:59:53.479 --> 01:59:53.854
Love it.

01:59:53.954 --> 01:59:55.015
And that's crazy.

01:59:55.489 --> 01:59:59.510
I remember so clearly, like, wow, this is so nice.

01:59:59.510 --> 01:59:59.569
Yeah.

01:59:59.869 --> 02:00:00.050
Yeah.

02:00:00.079 --> 02:00:00.739
And.

02:00:01.279 --> 02:00:03.835
Then going to tour the fat, tour, the fat the next morning.

02:00:03.935 --> 02:00:08.359
Did you know it was the next morning because that was a Thursday, camped at City Park, or slept at City Park Friday?

02:00:08.390 --> 02:00:09.500
Well, I slept at my buddy's.

02:00:09.500 --> 02:00:10.159
You came in late.

02:00:10.220 --> 02:00:13.489
Came in late Fri or Friday afternoon, whatever it was.

02:00:13.520 --> 02:00:14.119
Doesn't matter.

02:00:14.119 --> 02:00:14.239
Were you

02:00:14.239 --> 02:00:14.930
planning on Slept at my

02:00:14.930 --> 02:00:15.590
buddies?

02:00:15.710 --> 02:00:17.390
I was planning, but not until Monday.

02:00:17.390 --> 02:00:17.479
Yeah.

02:00:18.020 --> 02:00:19.520
And so I showed up and it was Saturday.

02:00:19.520 --> 02:00:21.260
It was like, oh, well the parade parade's today.

02:00:21.260 --> 02:00:22.159
Let's go downtown.

02:00:22.189 --> 02:00:23.810
And I was like, fell in love with

02:00:23.810 --> 02:00:26.119
the, without that storm, you might not have ever been here.

02:00:26.149 --> 02:00:30.229
And so like you would've missed tour de Fat, which might not have, you might not have sold it for you.

02:00:30.229 --> 02:00:33.074
You'd have been like, I love Northern Colorado and I'll use, or California

02:00:33.170 --> 02:00:37.220
my favorite, uh, to bring back more Christian, uh, language.

02:00:37.279 --> 02:00:40.039
I'll use my favorite sermon as an example, please.

02:00:40.310 --> 02:00:47.239
I have my, my arm is tattooed with all the story of Jonah, um, which is the story of a missionary basically who was forced into the position.

02:00:47.479 --> 02:00:47.600
Yeah.

02:00:47.600 --> 02:00:51.500
Didn't wanna be, and therefore swallowed by a whale and then burnt to a crisp.

02:00:51.770 --> 02:00:55.520
And, um, Paul Tripp.

02:00:55.789 --> 02:00:56.569
Do you know Paul Tripp?

02:00:56.960 --> 02:00:57.289
Uh,

02:00:57.470 --> 02:01:01.220
um, pastor in, I think New York There.

02:01:01.220 --> 02:01:01.609
It was.

02:01:01.850 --> 02:01:02.869
I've heard the name before.

02:01:02.869 --> 02:01:03.890
It's thrown around, but I don't know.

02:01:04.279 --> 02:01:12.409
He talks about, okay, so the whale comes and swallows, Jonah spits him out and he gets washed up on shore and he takes shelter under a plant.

02:01:13.220 --> 02:01:20.630
And then the plant withers because a worm eats the plant and therefore Jonah is like scorched by the sun.

02:01:20.630 --> 02:01:20.720
Yeah.

02:01:20.720 --> 02:01:24.470
And so he has no shelter and he has to go back into Nineveh to meet these people.

02:01:25.699 --> 02:01:29.180
And Paul trips line is, I don't know about you.

02:01:31.295 --> 02:01:36.095
But this verse says, God sent a worm to eat the plant.

02:01:36.095 --> 02:01:36.154
Yeah.

02:01:36.425 --> 02:01:39.574
So it was, God sent a whale to eat or a fish.

02:01:40.085 --> 02:01:42.904
God appointed a plant to grow up over Jonah.

02:01:42.904 --> 02:01:44.524
God sent a worm to eat the plant.

02:01:44.675 --> 02:01:44.885
Yeah.

02:01:45.364 --> 02:01:45.845
It's time to go.

02:01:45.845 --> 02:01:53.119
And the line was, my God is the God of worms and my God is the God of worms.

02:01:53.225 --> 02:01:54.154
Lightning and wind.

02:01:54.154 --> 02:01:55.444
In your case, man.

02:01:55.534 --> 02:01:57.125
Oh, Jewish culture.

02:01:57.125 --> 02:01:59.135
I'm sure it's a parable and not real.

02:01:59.225 --> 02:01:59.494
Yeah.

02:01:59.704 --> 02:02:04.564
We could fight on that if you want, but it's still the, the sentiment of my God is the God of worms.

02:02:04.595 --> 02:02:10.625
And so my God is the God of lightning strikes and ruined campsites that led me to hell.

02:02:10.625 --> 02:02:10.685
Yeah.

02:02:10.685 --> 02:02:11.194
Fort Collins.

02:02:11.194 --> 02:02:12.484
I think it I I'm here.

02:02:12.664 --> 02:02:13.114
Good story.

02:02:14.225 --> 02:02:14.585
That's good.

02:02:14.675 --> 02:02:15.484
I think we wrapped up.

02:02:15.845 --> 02:02:16.324
Let's do it.

02:02:16.805 --> 02:02:17.675
Butter bat boom.

02:02:17.704 --> 02:02:18.399
Let's play some pink bat.

02:02:18.399 --> 02:02:18.680
Boom.

02:02:18.829 --> 02:02:19.119
Okay.

02:02:19.444 --> 02:02:20.255
Got speed.