Nov. 29, 2025

EXPERIENCE 246 | Talking with Teri Karjala - Business Success Therapist and Host of The Entrepreneurial Girlfriend Hour on Talking with Teri TV

In this episode of the LoCo Experience podcast, I had a lively conversation with Teri Karjala, a business success therapist and entrepreneur. Teri shared her journey from a small town in Kansas to becoming a counsellor to becoming the owner of a sizable therapy practice.  

She highlighted her unique methods using energy psychology and quantum physics to help business owners overcome limiting beliefs and self-sabotage. We discussed her evolution from counselor to business owner to media personality, including her YouTube channel 'Talking with Teri TV, and her newly syndicated show The Entrepreneurial Girlfriend Hour.  

Teri opened up about her adventurous spirit and various adrenaline-driven activities, and underscored the importance of embracing one's passions and confronting your fears. We wrapped up by exploring her family life and future ambitions, emphasizing her mission to activate and inspire others. Overall, Teri's insights into business, neural development, and personal growth offer valuable takeaways for anyone looking to elevate their life and work.

This episode has something for everyone, especially for those who are feeling stuck, so I hope you’ll join me in enjoying my conversation with Teri Karjala.  

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Welcome back to the Loco Experience.

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I'm here today with Terry Carla.

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You got it.

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And, uh, she is a business success therapist.

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She is the owner of talking with Terry.

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She's the host of the Entrepreneurial Girlfriend Hour.

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Yes.

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Not podcast.

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I almost said podcast on talking with Terry tv, which is on the verge of syndication and I know.

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And a nationwide audience or Yes,

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yes.

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Dang girl.

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I know.

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How was that

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like,

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it's exciting.

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Did you, it's like pitch the show before you created much of it, or did you create it for a while and then pitched it?

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Or how, how is, how's something like that go down?

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Yeah, so, um, a couple of the companies reached out to me and then we, um, had some great conversations and then, um, yeah, as soon as, uh, I'm kind of glad that I didn't know what I didn't know in the beginning.

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Right.

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Um, before I said yes.

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Um, I always energetically test everything in business and that's why I've been able to scale my business.

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Yeah.

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And so I got a big fat Yes.

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And I'm like, let's do it.

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And so, so that will expand the expand energy is good.

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It should be easy.

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Expand.

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Yeah.

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And so, but it's been kind of interesting because in the beginning, um.

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So we had, so the talking with Terry TV evolved on, uh, YouTube.

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Okay.

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And then we had this huge production crew, and I kept telling the, the, the crew, I'm like, I am missing something.

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And so we ended up going down this route, kind of like where, and we still do them when I love them.

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We do business spotlights where we bring in businesses and we spotlight them and we talk about what they do.

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We have, you know, this whole production day, you get to the therapy

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part on that too.

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What's that?

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The business success therapist part is that, yeah.

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I'll get to that piece.

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But, um, so that started and then, um, we were on this journey and I kept telling my team like, I'm missing something.

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Yeah.

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And we started trying a couple things, and I'm like, no, that's not it.

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That's not it.

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And in life, I, um, find myself when I am like, at that place where I'm like, what am I doing?

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I start doing what I call experiments.

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Okay.

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So I started doing an experiment in October of 2024.

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Started the experiment.

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Experiment number one, led to number two, da dah, dah, dah.

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Number nine.

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Um, I got this download to do it with a live studio.

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Oh.

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Experience.

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So we brought in, you know, I think there, at the beginning it was like around 11 people, and we started doing the show in front of a live audience.

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Oh.

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And then it evolved and then, um, I kept getting more downloads.

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And then it's like, how about we have a, we need to get different furniture.

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So now we have around 20 people.

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In the studio with us.

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Okay.

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And, uh, we have three different types of shows.

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So we have my show where the, and I don't even like to say audience because they're what we call co-creators.

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Okay.

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They become part of the show.

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Okay.

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So they are the show.

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You're like prices, right.

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Style, like, come on down.

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You can, I mean,

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yeah.

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I mean, kind like, like, come up on that.

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So I do coachings, I do clearings.

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We have powerful conversations.

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Um, and we're actually, you know, helping support people to what we call activate, elevate and transform in their life or in their business.

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And it's all connected.

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And then we, we also have, um, uh, co-hosts that we interview and they try out for, so I'll be taking, we'll be bringing in two or maybe three more co-hosts.

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Okay.

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For 2026.

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Okay.

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And then we also have a very high level, um, individuals that we bring on.

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So, um,

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and there's like a, I've, I've actually thought it would be pretty cool to have a podcast with a live audience.

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Yeah.

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If I could get somebody really cool like Kurt Richardson on or something like that.

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Or Terry Carala.

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I mean, Terry Carala.

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But I wonder if it's like, is it like, are they like clapping when they hear things?

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Yeah.

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Or what?

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The's Ament.

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They're laughing when somebody says something funny.

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I

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mean, last night we had a, we had a show last night and it was, and last night, oh my gosh.

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It was so, so exciting, so juicy because we like.

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I've been doing this.

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And so we took it outta the experiment back in, uh, March of this year, and I was having a conversation with Barbara Walters previous executive producer.

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Okay.

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And we had this conversation and, and I was like, well, now I've created a marketing nightmare because now I have this and this and this.

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And she's like, Terry, you have a box of chocolates.

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And as soon as she said that, I was like, oh my gosh, I have a box of chocolates.

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And it made total sense.

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You know, like from, um, oh my gosh, what is the name?

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Um, life is

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like a box.

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Periscope.

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Yeah.

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aScope life is like a box of box of chocolates.

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You never know what you're gonna get.

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And so that's exactly what it is.

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When you go on the Ellen De Show or Ellen DeGeneres or Oprah, it, it's like the same format every time.

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You never, you never know what you're gonna get.

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Right.

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Oh, like, right.

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Like, you don't know who's gonna be there.

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It's all, it's all surprise.

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Right.

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And I love surprises, so I love building in little extra surprises.

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So we, uh, so we have a, um, we have a, yeah.

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Live studio.

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It's a live studio experience.

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Okay.

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Um, until you've experienced it, it's, it's kind of hard to describe, but it's so juicy because we get to have powerful conversations.

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So two years ago.

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Uh, almost two and a half years ago now, I went through what I would call like a dark night of the soul.

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Okay.

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And I, I don't even like to speak life into it'cause it was so brutal.

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Okay.

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So, okay.

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What was

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you, had you sold your previous business at that point?

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So, and

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it was kind of in a transition of that.

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Okay.

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And I will tell you, like, I don't even wanna speak life into it because it was so awful.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So I'm gonna give a metaphor all and I wanna tell everyone this is a metaphor.

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Okay.

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Because sometimes people will be like, this really happened.

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Yeah.

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Metaphor.

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So it's like, I'm out in the ocean swimming mono own business and a shark came up and tried to attack me.

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Okay.

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And

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I'm like, not today, shark.

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I got bigger things to do.

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So I punched it in the face, right?

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And then I'm like, wow, that was very traumatic.

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I better get to the shallow end.

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So I get to the shallow end pretty certain.

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I was wearing a big chunky necklace and a crocodile came up just like death.

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Rashed me down.

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Now I am short, but I am scrappy.

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And I fought off, off, fought off this crocodile.

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And I'm like, yes.

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So I get out, I'm onto the beachy area and I, and I'm like, I gotta take a beat.

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'cause that was very traumatic.

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And I was like, whew.

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So I'm taking a moment and I look down and I am standing in quicksand and

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there's honey bedrooms all around you.

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Right?

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Exactly.

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So then I, I, I survive.

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I get big, I survive the quicksand, I step out and then I'm dusting myself off.

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And then.

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Out in the horizon.

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It's like, oh.

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And I'm like, yes.

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I'm so excited and delighted, and I rush out only to be hit by a Mack truck.

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Okay.

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And then I feel like I broke every bone in my body.

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So now I'm in a wheelchair wheeling around man own business.

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Okay.

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And then out of nowhere I get steamrolled by a, um, steamroll.

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So, and then like, obviously we're, these are metaphors, but these are

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metaphors, like of the craziness.

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And so I step out and I'm like, you know, the, the movie, uh, who framed Roger Rabbit and be like, he blows himself back up right in Tune Town.

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And so I just go back over there and I blew myself back up.

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And I am five two in real life, but I identify as five seven.

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Okay.

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So I blew myself up to five seven, and then probably like six months later, you know, I had a couple little pricks, no pun intended, on my, on my, um, on my arm.

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I just patched those up with some super glue and some rubber bands, you know, I mean, uh, band-aids.

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And, uh, now we're good.

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And then probably about six months after that, I kind of stepped back into my body.

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'cause it was, it was really traumatic.

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And now I can kind of joke about it now, but there was a lot of things that were happening.

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Well,

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I, I feel like.

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Um, like you're asking people on your show and they're like sharing some of their traumatic experience and you're clearing them and getting into it and stuff.

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But all I know is metaphors here.

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Are we Yeah.

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These actual physical things that happen to you.

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Oh gosh.

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Yeah.

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Or job losses, or I mean,

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you name it, you, I mean, I family

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members dying.

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Um, and you don't have to get into detail, but I'm really curious.

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Was it health, health and

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wellness relationships with your kids?

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Like what do talk It was a lot

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around the, the other company, the other business.

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Okay.

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And I had some, um, interesting staff stuff come up.

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Okay.

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Um, and I was like, this is, and I, at some point I was like this, like this, like this is like a clown show.

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Like someone's gonna jump out and say, just kidding.

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You're on kidding camera.

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Like,

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mm.

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It was some of those crazy experiences where I just was like, I kind of lost faith in humanity.

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Mm.

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And just people just doing the right thing.

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And like people just, I grew up in the Midwest and I just, I am, I, I say what I'm gonna do, I do what I'm gonna say, and not that I say I'm, I'm perfect.

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I've made choices that I've, that I regret.

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And I, and there's times I've showed up that I regret how I showed, showed up in certain ways.

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And, you know, sometimes I got, my emotions got the better of me, but I'm, but just core moral values.

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Yeah.

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Your intentions were worthy of

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Yes.

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Right.

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Uh, and so, but out of that, out of all of that, that came out, what I realized is when I was in the thick of it, um, I went to my, my support system.

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And my support system really couldn't hold space for me.

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Hmm.

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Because they're like, Terry, this is not you.

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Like you're this powerhouse.

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Like, get stuff done.

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Go, go, go do, do, do like all the things.

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And they really had a hard time and they're like, just shake it off.

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Like, what?

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And then they really had a hard time like going like, wait, you are, you are the person that like has that has, it

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doesn't get

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figured out.

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So it was like

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factors beyond your control to some extent with people in Oh, 1000% behind my,

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but outside my control.

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Yeah.

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But also it

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seems a little bit like you let it get to you in such a way that you didn't kind of jump on and take control like your friends expected you to.

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Yeah.

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And it was just like, it was a, it was a dark time and there was a lot of like,

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and set the stage a little bit.

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It was a counseling firm, right?

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Yeah.

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Like you built a pretty big counseling practice.

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Yeah.

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I had, I had

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a, a counseling firm and I had some staff that just really did some really Yeah.

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Backhanded stuff.

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Um, yeah.

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And uh, so it goes, um, and it was just like, and then like one thing led to another and then I had, you know, some personal stuff going on.

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I had, you know, that stuff going on with the practice and I'm just telling you it was like insane.

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And so, well, and I'm getting,

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so this is like 22, 23 timeline?

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Or 20, yeah.

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21.

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2023.

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23.

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Yeah.

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And not to make any excuses for anybody, but like after the COVID stuff, people were crazy and they still are, some of them are still scarred.

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Um, and I have to think that.

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The internalization of some of that Craig Ccra into all those therapists and people and the industry in general Yeah.

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Was probably traumatic and people reacted in ways that maybe they wouldn't have.

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Yeah.

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Maybe in 2019.

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Yeah.

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Maybe.

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Or maybe they were run to the core anyway.

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I mean maybe like, right.

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Like there's a lot of dynamics.

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Right.

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Um, but then after that, so I was realizing that I had to go like to strangers to get support.

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'cause then they didn't have past history with me.

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That's like, oh, Terry just figures it out, da da.

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And Terry's like, happy go lucky.

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And Terry's so optimistic and Terry's da da da.

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Right.

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They didn't have like that preconceived notion about me.

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Yeah.

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And so then, um, so I started reaching out to like complete strangers to be able just to be a support.

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Did you go to a counselor?

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I, I actually didn't.

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I actually didn't.

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The cobbler kids don't, which is so funny.

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Don't wear shoes.

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Which is so funny'cause like in the very beginning of the counseling experience, um, uh, I, I.

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Very early on.

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So after I got out of my master's degree, I obviously, so how I started my counseling practice, um, was back in the day.

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I, um, I was a peer counselor in my high school.

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Oh.

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And so I was a, a peer counselor, and then we went to Washburn University to get training.

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So as a, as a sophomore, we were getting college.

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That's wild training.

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Yeah.

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And which actually made it fantastic.

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'cause it built up my resume and it looked amazing.

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Yeah.

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Because I had like three years of like, you know, Washburn University, you know, and training and practical experience counseling, peer counseling.

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Yeah, exactly.

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And so I was a peer counselor and I was in charge of the fifth and sixth grade, and there was a fifth grader that came to me and said that there was a sixth grade, her sixth grade friend was gonna commit suicide.

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Oh, wow.

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And as a sophomore in high school.

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Now granted, before this happened, let's be really clear, I wanted to be either a cosmetologist or an undercover cop in New York City, because that made sense.

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It's hard

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to choose between those two.

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Yeah.

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But if those two had a baby,

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it would

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be a therapist, I suppose.

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Right.

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I suppose suppose the cosmetologist people like to talk to and open up to, and then the, the undercover cop is like figuring out like, how does all this two work together?

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And Yeah.

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Figuring the pieces out like Right.

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And being in, in investigative mode.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So in a weird way, I made those two.

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That's

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real.

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I mean, right.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, so fast forward, um, built the practice, um.

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Um, where was I going with that?

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Did you

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sell the practice then ultimately, or?

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We, we transitioned.

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Yeah.

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We transitioned it to another person.

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Yeah.

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Um, and then she's been, you know, taking it over since then.

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Um, and, and then

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you're like blank slate?

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Or had you already been doing talking with Terry stuff?

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Yeah, I talking with on, or whatever Terry.

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Yeah.

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Talking with Terry came, so probably maybe 17, 18 years ago.

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Oh, wow.

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Um, I had, I had a social media person.

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Okay.

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And she goes, Terry, what's your retirement plan?

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And I'm like, oh, I, and I word vomited on her and I'm like, I'm gonna be traveling and speaking and it's gonna be called talking with dairy.

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And she goes, oh my gosh, I love that.

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She's like, you should buy the domains.

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So I bought the domains all those years ago.

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Yeah.

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And when she said that, I was like, what just happened?

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Like, why did those words come outta my mouth?

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Yeah.

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At the time, at the time I said those words, I was terrified of speaking.

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Mortified.

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Mortified, interesting.

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And I hated my name.

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And so in second grade I asked Santa Claus for a name change.

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I wanna be called Amy McCarter because I don't know why I love the name Amy.

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And then the, if you're gonna change your first name, you should change your last name.

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And if you're gonna change your last name, have instead of one capital letter, have two.

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'cause I mean, it's way funner to write like, well in

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the mix, the mix usually come ahead of like Irish or Scottish names.

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Right, right.

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But Carter is definitely like a, just a regular old British person.

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There's no Mick Carters out there.

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Seven.

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I've never heard of a Mick Carter.

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Seven

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was a, I was like seven.

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I could mcbe.

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Alright.

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No C seven.

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If you're seven, you didn't know enough yet to know there weren't any

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McCarter's.

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If you could bring me a McCarter I'll, I'd love to meet him.

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Right, right.

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It's just like my little anyways, but funny enough, funny story about that is that, um, when I had my, so for those that are looking at YouTube on the thing, I have like a, I call it the modern mullet.

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I have like, you know, long, I have business on this side and you know, party on this side and you get me, you get all of me.

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But when I used to have business and business on the sides, right?

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Yeah.

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Everyone, it's more my mannerisms.

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Everyone would tell me that I look like a meat polar.

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Oh yeah.

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And so I, you do kinda like the Amy, I mean, it's more of my

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mannerisms, right?

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Anyways, so I was at the airport one time and this guy comes up and is like, can I get your autograph?

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He's like, that thing that you did on, oh, I was like, oh, I'm not Amy p funny.

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I think they're enough less slimer

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than Amy P, actually.

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Oh, thank

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you.

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I appreciate that.

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I mean, I do have my squirrel suit on, so you can't really tell

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there's, there's some big signs out there you pick up.

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Right.

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Um, but I, I, I actually had, uh, for the longest time I had not, uh, a website called, not amy poer.com.

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Oh gosh.

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I know.

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But it just led to my, yeah, because I had, why not?

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I got it.

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I got it.

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So when I was speaking on stages a lot, yeah.

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When I had my old hairstyle, um, I got it a lot.

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So anyways, but, so

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you were kind of cultivating this personality, if you will.

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On the side of growing your practice.

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Yeah.

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So that

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came.

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So then, um, so then I had that really, so I call that my midnight projects because I was just so inspired.

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And so at night I, you know, put my husband to bed and then I would go and I'd sneak off.

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It was so funny'cause I felt like I was having an affair at one point.

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'cause I was like, I was like my creativity time.

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Yeah.

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So anyone out there that's listening that can, can relate to this, I get you.

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My creativity, my time is like between 10:00 PM and like 2:00 AM It's like, whoa.

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Let make magic happen.

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Like, it's so exciting, right?

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So anyway, so he would go to bed and I was like, and I had my, my blanket like over me and I was like, oh, my tablet.

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And I was like typing up scripts and whatever I was doing, right?

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Like creating whatever.

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And then one day he like pulls the covers up.

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He's like, what are you doing?

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I'm like, ah.

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Oh my gosh.

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I was like, I'm creative.

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I'm not watching porn, I promise.

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Right.

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That would be if you busted him in the same, that's exactly

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right.

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Anyway, so then, but that started like, so I started doing products and then I started having like, um, and I had like these products,

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like product reviews and stuff, or Whatcha you talking about?

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Oh, just

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like I had these journals.

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I had, I made these, all these journals called, uh, live, live Deliciously.

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Oh.

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Um, yes, they were, uh, I had different, so I had four different ones that were more for, um, adults and then I had one for teens and one for kids.

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Yeah.

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And we got'em in the tattered cover.

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It's like quote, they were things, they were just like a planner, like they were like a, um, inspirational journal and so they had prompts and things like that.

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Cool.

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Um, and then I started doing some other things and then I started coaching and, um, I had all these.

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A therapist that would come to me and say, I want coaching.

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And so then I was like, okay.

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And then my social media person was like, just start coaching.

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And I'm like, what?

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I don't know about that.

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And I'll, I'll be honest, like I had a lot of um, uh, therapists come to me.

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'cause I had built a, a, a counseling practice that was cash only.

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And that at the time it was very rare.

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Yeah.

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And dealing with insurance companies is so fine.

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We had no insurance and we had no, um, uh, we didn't, uh, we, it wasn't a rental model.

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It was, you know, anyways.

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But it was very unique at the time.

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And so, and so then I was like, okay, sure, I'll help.

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And, and it was pretty wild because I had all these therapists that were coming to me and then, um, I would say, okay, this is how you do it.

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This, these are my secret sauce.

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This is how I built Yeah.

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A seven figure company.

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Like this is how you do it.

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And, um, they wouldn't take action.

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They wouldn't do it.

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And so it got really frustrating.

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And so I was like, you know what, this coaching thing is for the birds,

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right?

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So I kind of stepped away from it.

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And then like, um, probably a year later, um, my previous, um, real estate agent that was for the commercial

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mm-hmm.

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Side, comes back into town and he is like, Hey, what are you doing?

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We got together and at the end of the conversation, I was telling him what I was doing and what worked and what didn't work, and da, da da with the coaching.

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And I kind of was like, that was not my thing.

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Yeah.

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And he's like, well, at the end of the conversation he's like, I wanna hire you.

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And I'm like, what?

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And he is like, yeah, I wanna hire you as my coach.

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And I was like, for what?

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And he's like, and then he tells me his story and it's like, he's such a, an incredible guy.

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He was an Olympic athlete.

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And, uh, the 1980, um, Olympics was canceled because of the war.

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Mm.

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And he had worked his entire life really, um, um, training for the, the Vietnam War.

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What the, what?

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19?

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Yeah.

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I think it was Vietnam.

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Vietnam was done

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by 77.

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I bet it was 76

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maybe.

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Oh, maybe it was, yeah.

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Yeah.

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There weren't war going on 80.

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Well, I thought it was eight.

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I thought it was 80.

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Uh, but I'm not a, I could be wrong.

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I'm not a history buff.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, anyways, but it, so anyways, so he like, um, he got some, anyways, long story, but then when we started working together, it brought him back to the Olympics in a different way.

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Hmm.

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He, he, he created a, a product and now he's just like, it was so powerful.

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But he had a lot of this, like a lot of limitations blocks I always talk about, you know.

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Yeah.

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We have usually the five limitations is, you know, the limiting beliefs, the self-sabotage.

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Um, getting stuck in fear overwhelm or the imposter syndrome.

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And so we walked through, well, why have all of those check, check, check?

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We've at least experienced all of them at times, right?

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We all have.

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We all have.

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Um, and so we cleared some of the blocks that were happening for him and then he just like skyrocketed his business.

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And it just been so exciting.

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And so as a therapist, I loved, you're like, oh, I like

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coaching.

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Oh my gosh, not therapists.

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Gosh, wow.

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Right?

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You got it.

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Ding, ding, ding, ding.

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And so, you know, as a therapist, I loved having people come in and they say, okay, I have a panic attack.

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I'm having'em five days a week, and you take from, you know, five days a week to zero times a week.

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And it was like very exciting.

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But when you can add onto it now, like, okay, I can, I can help you do this.

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And we're just getting

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rid of the bad.

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We're opening, we're all, we opening to the good kind of.

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Yeah.

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And

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then we can also say, okay, well we took the business from a hundred thousand to, you know, one of my clients we took to 1.4 million, um, in less than 15 months.

00:22:04.944 --> 00:22:07.164
And I was like, oh my gosh, this is super exciting.

00:22:07.164 --> 00:22:09.025
So now we can tie this dollar amount to it.

00:22:09.025 --> 00:22:13.555
And it's like, oh, this, it becomes really juicy to like be able to like be that expansive.

00:22:13.555 --> 00:22:15.025
So I love the business piece.

00:22:15.025 --> 00:22:21.085
So going back to your thing about how the business success therapist came, it's like I have a thera, I used to be a therapist.

00:22:21.144 --> 00:22:21.325
Yep.

00:22:21.775 --> 00:22:28.224
So I can bring in the psychology, the behavior piece, and I love combining it with energy psychology and then.

00:22:28.650 --> 00:22:30.000
Tapping into quantum physics.

00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:31.349
So how energy works.

00:22:31.650 --> 00:22:41.339
And so when you start to tie these together and understand how energy is impacting, how our thoughts are impacting us, and it all starts to unfold.

00:22:41.339 --> 00:22:43.200
And then it's like, okay, we can start to unpack this.

00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:50.250
And now I love helping people, you know, clear the blocks that are no longer serving them, but then give them the tools so that they can do it themselves.

00:22:50.339 --> 00:22:50.369
Mm.

00:22:50.430 --> 00:22:57.539
And I think as a therapist, like we always like, and again, nothing bad about therapy because like, you know, there's great therapist.

00:22:57.539 --> 00:22:57.579
They love long term

00:22:57.579 --> 00:22:57.744
clients, though.

00:22:58.690 --> 00:22:59.079
Fair.

00:22:59.470 --> 00:23:07.359
And so I, that's what, and I would always say you, when we meet people, I'm like, you're the, I'm the first therapist that I will admittedly say that I don't like therapy.

00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:09.369
'cause I can think it, I think it takes too long.

00:23:09.490 --> 00:23:14.650
And so I think sometimes we, we rely on talk, traditional talk therapy and traditional talk therapy.

00:23:14.650 --> 00:23:17.200
There's nothing wrong with that when used in the right way.

00:23:17.470 --> 00:23:29.049
Um, but we were coming from trauma based, you know, and so we would see, you know, uh, folks that were sexually abused, witnessing domestic, domestic violence, homicide, suicides, whatever that was.

00:23:29.140 --> 00:23:40.630
And so, um, it was, we're talking about like actually reprogramming the brain because whether it was type one trauma or type two trauma, like how does that impact you and choices that we made and like, unpack, you know, like all the things.

00:23:40.690 --> 00:23:46.029
And so, um, and I realized that it was probably early on.

00:23:46.150 --> 00:23:49.809
Um, I had a client that she'd been in therapy for 27 years.

00:23:49.815 --> 00:23:49.974
Mm-hmm.

00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:52.630
And her, she had retired, her third therapist.

00:23:52.630 --> 00:23:53.380
Mm-hmm.

00:23:53.381 --> 00:23:57.579
And the doctor, and the doctor who referred me, she goes like, well, she does some things outside the box.

00:23:57.579 --> 00:23:58.809
You should, you know, reach out to her.

00:23:59.230 --> 00:24:01.180
And, uh, she's like, let me tell you my story.

00:24:01.180 --> 00:24:04.930
And I'm like, you know, like, maybe, we'll maybe that hasn't worked right?

00:24:04.930 --> 00:24:07.775
In 26 years we're not gonna do 20, we're not gonna do five more years.

00:24:07.954 --> 00:24:10.390
And I said, what if we, what if we, what if we do something different?

00:24:10.390 --> 00:24:15.039
And so she, she was open to it and it took us sessions, um, to get her to that place.

00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.940
And she was still having panic attacks when she came to me and she was having two to four.

00:24:18.940 --> 00:24:19.119
And

00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:20.410
were you already studying like.

00:24:21.144 --> 00:24:21.595
Energy stuff.

00:24:22.045 --> 00:24:22.525
Yeah.

00:24:22.525 --> 00:24:23.390
And that kind of thing.

00:24:23.390 --> 00:24:23.634
I was like, Hey,

00:24:23.634 --> 00:24:24.565
let's do it this way.

00:24:24.565 --> 00:24:25.230
And she's like, yeah.

00:24:25.285 --> 00:24:26.575
And so I was like, I don't actually need this.

00:24:26.575 --> 00:24:27.265
Know the story.

00:24:27.265 --> 00:24:27.894
And she's like, what?

00:24:28.494 --> 00:24:29.664
And I was like, yeah, I don't.

00:24:29.664 --> 00:24:36.265
And so we ended up doing the work and then on the, on her last session she says, oh my gosh, can I tell you the story?

00:24:36.265 --> 00:24:38.394
And I'm like, ah, yes, go ahead.

00:24:38.664 --> 00:24:44.454
And she had this big epiphany and she was able to tell me in two minutes, did not have a panic attack.

00:24:44.724 --> 00:24:54.174
And she was like, and there she's like, I am, I can't believe I'm gonna say these words outta my mouth, but she's like, I'm almost at this place where I can feel gratitude for that happening.

00:24:54.174 --> 00:24:54.234
Hmm.

00:24:54.565 --> 00:24:56.335
And I was like, ah, yes.

00:24:56.785 --> 00:24:56.974
You know?

00:24:57.325 --> 00:24:57.744
Tell me more.

00:24:57.744 --> 00:25:00.144
Like what, talk to me about like that process.

00:25:00.144 --> 00:25:01.255
Sorry, there's a box older book.

00:25:01.255 --> 00:25:02.549
Crawling that curtain, bothering that.

00:25:02.549 --> 00:25:02.994
I was like, what is that?

00:25:02.994 --> 00:25:03.325
What is that?

00:25:03.805 --> 00:25:13.375
Um, no, just like, I think that, um, well, when we can understand like.

00:25:14.980 --> 00:25:16.390
The, like, the trauma, right?

00:25:16.390 --> 00:25:18.700
Like, you know, working through the trauma Yeah.

00:25:18.700 --> 00:25:20.230
Of whatever that piece might be.

00:25:20.410 --> 00:25:20.859
Okay.

00:25:21.309 --> 00:25:22.930
Um, and then, but you don't even know what the trauma

00:25:22.934 --> 00:25:24.325
is in this person's case.

00:25:24.329 --> 00:25:24.640
So we had

00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:26.079
tapped back into the emotions.

00:25:26.109 --> 00:25:26.380
Yeah.

00:25:26.589 --> 00:25:31.750
And so, because a lot of times the, the story just gets getting repeated, right?

00:25:31.779 --> 00:25:36.670
And then what happens in the brain is that we keep those neural pathways really strong, right?

00:25:36.674 --> 00:25:36.724
Mm-hmm.

00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:39.579
And so we keep almost re pattering that habit, right?

00:25:39.585 --> 00:25:39.765
Yeah.

00:25:40.089 --> 00:25:43.420
And so when we can go into and like, okay, let's go back into the emotion.

00:25:43.420 --> 00:25:49.000
So I come from, like, some of the energy work that I pull from is emotional freedom technique, which is the tapping Okay.

00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:51.579
Of that access consciousness, Donna, Donna Eden's work.

00:25:51.970 --> 00:25:55.089
Um, and just like some tools over the time that I've pulled from mm-hmm.

00:25:55.359 --> 00:26:02.019
And, and understanding how the brain works, how does that process information and like, you know, how do we break those neural pathways?

00:26:02.049 --> 00:26:02.140
Yeah.

00:26:02.140 --> 00:26:02.440
Yeah.

00:26:03.430 --> 00:26:03.869
Build new ones actually.

00:26:03.869 --> 00:26:04.164
And build new ones.

00:26:04.170 --> 00:26:04.539
Right?

00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:11.109
And so the, the, the work, the clients that I work with now are all business owners, women entrepreneurs, business owners.

00:26:11.140 --> 00:26:17.769
And so they'll come in with like, okay, this, this self-doubt, or, you know, I don't think I'm good enough, or whatever that might be.

00:26:17.769 --> 00:26:24.039
And it's like, okay, let's work on clearing those pieces out and then let's start speaking life into what we do desire.

00:26:24.220 --> 00:26:24.339
Hmm.

00:26:24.369 --> 00:26:29.859
Because so often I'll work with people and I'll ask them the question, what do you wanna create?

00:26:30.009 --> 00:26:30.190
Yeah.

00:26:30.250 --> 00:26:32.170
And you know what they'll, you'll most often say,

00:26:33.130 --> 00:26:33.309
I don't know

00:26:33.369 --> 00:26:34.509
all the things they don't.

00:26:35.950 --> 00:26:37.690
And they'll say, well, I don't wanna do this and I don't wanna do that.

00:26:37.690 --> 00:26:38.470
I don't do that.

00:26:38.525 --> 00:26:42.519
I, I don't, and I'm, well, where are we spending our time and energy and focus, right?

00:26:42.609 --> 00:26:42.849
Yeah.

00:26:42.849 --> 00:26:42.910
Yeah.

00:26:42.910 --> 00:26:45.789
And so in, I've heard that about business, universal law.

00:26:45.819 --> 00:26:45.910
Yeah.

00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:47.650
You know, uh, law of attraction.

00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:47.769
Mm-hmm.

00:26:48.130 --> 00:26:49.960
Um, what we think about, we bring about, right.

00:26:49.990 --> 00:26:55.299
What we, um, you know, the, the inner becomes the outer, the invisible becomes the visible.

00:26:55.329 --> 00:27:19.599
And so when we start to look at how those can be different and how we can, you know, transform that, I love taking these principles and applying'em directly to business because now we can actually attract more clients that are, you know, I love like doing, I do a lot of different energetics and teach my clients how to use them because when we become really magnetic to, and, and we become in that higher vibration

00:27:19.690 --> 00:27:19.839
mm-hmm.

00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:20.140
We

00:27:20.140 --> 00:27:22.539
can attract to us the things that we do desire.

00:27:22.539 --> 00:27:22.599
Hmm.

00:27:22.930 --> 00:27:28.150
And it becomes less, it, we, um, it's less efforting in order for us to do that.

00:27:28.345 --> 00:27:30.700
So are we talking about like the secret kind of stuff?

00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:42.579
I mean, I do pull from like, the universal laws of, um, um, ma truths within that, but yeah, there's truth within that, not that simple, but at the same time, um, you know, where are we spending most of our time?

00:27:42.670 --> 00:27:42.940
Right?

00:27:42.940 --> 00:27:43.000
Yeah.

00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:48.759
Because I think a lot of times, um, we'll say, so the reason, so, uh, the secret.

00:27:49.644 --> 00:27:58.404
I'm not a fan, I understand the concepts, but what happens is with the, I think the book, when that first initially came out, they talked about, oh, just do your affirmations.

00:27:58.434 --> 00:27:58.795
Yeah.

00:27:58.825 --> 00:27:59.904
Do your three affirmations.

00:27:59.964 --> 00:28:01.464
The problem with that, okay.

00:28:01.795 --> 00:28:03.625
I always wanted to do like a sequel.

00:28:04.315 --> 00:28:04.494
If you

00:28:04.494 --> 00:28:06.819
don't believe though, when you're telling yourself it doesn't matter.

00:28:06.954 --> 00:28:07.674
So what happened?

00:28:07.674 --> 00:28:08.065
Yeah.

00:28:08.065 --> 00:28:13.375
And so when I was, I was on stage a couple weeks ago and I said, I said, I'm not a big fan of affirmations.

00:28:13.375 --> 00:28:17.035
And the reason why is like, unless it's an embodied truth, okay?

00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:17.259
Mm-hmm.

00:28:17.484 --> 00:28:18.894
I am very creative.

00:28:18.894 --> 00:28:23.125
And so if I say I am creative, that is an embodied truth that is true to my heart.

00:28:23.125 --> 00:28:26.545
Like I know that that's an embodied truth, and I can say that and I believe that.

00:28:27.025 --> 00:28:31.194
But if I say I'm a gazillionaire, and that's not, not true, right?

00:28:31.255 --> 00:28:32.095
I mean, it's not true yet.

00:28:33.144 --> 00:28:34.075
It's not true.

00:28:34.315 --> 00:28:36.025
My unconscious, right?

00:28:36.055 --> 00:28:36.115
Yeah.

00:28:36.115 --> 00:28:37.105
That's running the show.

00:28:37.105 --> 00:28:40.740
It's calling you out on it is going to, it's gonna call me out on it unconsciously, and it's gonna be like, that's not true.

00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:41.940
That's, and I'll

00:28:41.940 --> 00:28:43.974
even put a stumbling block in there Exactly.

00:28:44.484 --> 00:28:45.055
Keep you from it, because I know it's, I'll actually

00:28:45.055 --> 00:28:47.454
show you some evidence as to why that's not true.

00:28:47.515 --> 00:28:47.815
Right?

00:28:47.819 --> 00:28:47.859
Yeah.

00:28:47.904 --> 00:28:49.045
And then I'll, right.

00:28:49.164 --> 00:28:57.595
And so, um, but if I ask the question, so if I start to play with a generative question, like something like, why is it so easy for me to blank?

00:28:57.714 --> 00:29:00.085
Or why do I have blank?

00:29:00.384 --> 00:29:07.375
Or I wonder what it would take for blank When I start to play with these degenerative questions, the brain goes, I don't

00:29:07.375 --> 00:29:07.555
know.

00:29:08.275 --> 00:29:08.424
Let

00:29:08.424 --> 00:29:08.964
me figure it out.

00:29:08.964 --> 00:29:10.704
So my little mins in my brain, it's more like a blank

00:29:10.704 --> 00:29:12.259
canvas now, and now my brain.

00:29:12.259 --> 00:29:13.579
And so you got a pathway to draw.

00:29:14.545 --> 00:29:16.855
Now my brain is actually gonna find the evidence.

00:29:16.914 --> 00:29:25.105
And so now I'm giving the brain a little task and I'm activating the reticulate activation system on purpose to find it for me.

00:29:25.134 --> 00:29:30.894
Because the reticulate activation system in the brain is always going to find and scan to find the evidence.

00:29:30.894 --> 00:29:36.295
So for example, like, you know, you might have just bought your new brand new, you know, Maserati, right?

00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:36.640
I wish.

00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:36.839
Yeah.

00:29:36.845 --> 00:29:37.285
And uh,

00:29:37.795 --> 00:29:40.404
and you don't see any of them on the, on the road, right?

00:29:40.404 --> 00:29:42.865
Until you buy it and you're like, oh my gosh, they're like everywhere.

00:29:42.865 --> 00:29:48.865
Like, you know, that's the part of the reticulating activation doing its job right now with the brain.

00:29:48.924 --> 00:29:58.134
I can actually be, I can summons the brain to help support me in creating my dream, to creating the, I call'em targets, not goals.

00:29:58.134 --> 00:29:58.255
The

00:29:58.255 --> 00:29:59.154
unconscious brain.

00:29:59.575 --> 00:29:59.845
Yes.

00:30:00.115 --> 00:30:00.744
Probably both,

00:30:00.805 --> 00:30:01.164
right?

00:30:01.170 --> 00:30:01.200
Both.

00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:01.400
Okay.

00:30:01.434 --> 00:30:03.025
So conscious and unconscious, right?

00:30:03.025 --> 00:30:08.244
And so now I can start to, um, really support the brain in looking for that evidence.

00:30:08.275 --> 00:30:20.484
So then when the evidence shows up, so I have these, um, I have these daily intentions planners, and the reason why I created them is, um, you know how we have like, oh, I'm thinking about, um, Kurt, I'm thinking about Kurt, I'm thinking about Kurt.

00:30:20.515 --> 00:30:23.805
And then like, I call you and you say, Hey, I was just gonna call.

00:30:23.805 --> 00:30:25.855
I was just thinking about you, or was I would just gonna call you.

00:30:25.855 --> 00:30:26.214
Right?

00:30:27.325 --> 00:30:29.039
What if we did that intentionally every day?

00:30:30.265 --> 00:30:30.654
Right.

00:30:30.654 --> 00:30:32.305
And so we can, right.

00:30:32.305 --> 00:30:36.865
And so my daily intentions planners actually was created so we can incorporate the brain.

00:30:36.924 --> 00:30:40.674
And so in one of them it says intentions and it's so silly.

00:30:40.674 --> 00:30:44.845
It's just all we are doing is working the muscle for the reticulating activation system.

00:30:44.904 --> 00:30:52.255
And so I'll draw like what I wanna see, like, um, it might, one day I, I had said, um, I want a sign of hope.

00:30:52.255 --> 00:30:55.974
I was going through this really, um, scary spot in my business.

00:30:56.065 --> 00:30:59.845
I was getting ready to take the leap of faith to go into a private practice.

00:31:00.234 --> 00:31:07.434
Um, and I was being kind of, I had, I had something, one of my bosses had me doing, um, had asked me to do something unethical.

00:31:08.214 --> 00:31:09.115
And I was like, oh my gosh.

00:31:09.144 --> 00:31:10.015
And I was like, I gotta leave.

00:31:10.045 --> 00:31:11.424
But I was so terrified and scared.

00:31:11.484 --> 00:31:11.724
Yeah.

00:31:11.994 --> 00:31:17.275
And so I, I set the, i, I set the intentions of like, I just need a sign of hope.

00:31:17.664 --> 00:31:17.934
Yeah.

00:31:18.115 --> 00:31:23.484
And so my husband and I still to this day, we never turn on the TV before we go anywhere.

00:31:23.994 --> 00:31:25.884
Um, especially before work or whatever.

00:31:25.884 --> 00:31:37.194
And so I was coming down the stairs at eight o'clock, 8:00 AM on like a Tuesday af or Tuesday morning, and I turned around the corner and the, and the TV's on, which I thought was weird.

00:31:38.335 --> 00:31:43.375
And I, and it was the movie, uh, filled a dreams.

00:31:43.585 --> 00:31:46.944
And as I was walking by it, it said, if you build it, they will come.

00:31:47.664 --> 00:31:54.115
And I just started crying and I was like, and I was sitting there and I was, I called my husband and I was like, did you turn the TV on?

00:31:54.204 --> 00:31:55.075
And he's like, no.

00:31:55.134 --> 00:31:58.164
And it's like, field of Dreams playing at 8:00 AM in the morning.

00:31:58.464 --> 00:31:58.855
Come on.

00:31:58.855 --> 00:32:00.984
Like, it was the weirdest like thing, right?

00:32:01.015 --> 00:32:04.555
So anyways, I was like, okay, I'm just gonna take that as my sign that maybe that I'm supposed to do this.

00:32:04.644 --> 00:32:04.704
Yeah.

00:32:04.704 --> 00:32:07.105
And then I did it and I, there's no regret.

00:32:07.315 --> 00:32:10.105
And it grew and expanded and I was like, wow, this is really cool.

00:32:10.164 --> 00:32:17.545
And so, um, we wanna start tapping into that ability for the brain to come in and start looking for evidence.

00:32:17.545 --> 00:32:19.734
For us, we're looking for evidence in the, on the positive front.

00:32:19.734 --> 00:32:21.734
Not evidence that you suck, but evidence that you can use.

00:32:21.894 --> 00:32:24.984
And so we can, it's so it's, it's like the spiral up or the spiral doubt.

00:32:24.984 --> 00:32:27.684
We always have choice in the spiral effort or the spiral down.

00:32:27.684 --> 00:32:28.464
What am I looking for?

00:32:28.464 --> 00:32:29.214
What am I creating?

00:32:29.214 --> 00:32:29.994
What am I, you know,

00:32:30.204 --> 00:32:32.515
I, uh, wrote down a couple of thoughts, uh, yeah.

00:32:32.515 --> 00:32:34.434
Along that, uh, snippet.

00:32:34.434 --> 00:32:39.894
And one is, um, on my Facebook, uh, is one of my favorite quotes from Henry Ford.

00:32:39.894 --> 00:32:43.674
The, uh, whether you think you can or think you cannot, you are correct.

00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:43.690
Right?

00:32:43.690 --> 00:32:44.214
That's right.

00:32:44.275 --> 00:32:49.884
You know, and it is such a hard thing sometimes to believe that you can do hard things.

00:32:51.349 --> 00:32:54.684
Um, but if you talk yourself into it, and it's not from affirmations.

00:32:54.805 --> 00:32:55.015
Yeah.

00:32:55.045 --> 00:32:56.664
'cause if you don't believe it, then it's not gonna work.

00:32:56.664 --> 00:32:59.335
You have to equip yourself to be able to, to do those.

00:32:59.335 --> 00:33:00.565
And sometimes it's small steps.

00:33:00.775 --> 00:33:00.865
Yeah.

00:33:00.865 --> 00:33:04.704
And, and if I am telling myself I suck and I keep telling myself I suck.

00:33:04.914 --> 00:33:05.125
Right.

00:33:05.125 --> 00:33:08.005
The brain's gonna work on the brain is gonna work no matter what.

00:33:08.005 --> 00:33:09.775
That assumption, that's the underlying assumption.

00:33:09.775 --> 00:33:10.255
I suck.

00:33:10.285 --> 00:33:10.404
Yeah.

00:33:11.035 --> 00:33:13.704
And then the brain's actually gonna go find evidence to show you that you suck.

00:33:14.335 --> 00:33:20.785
Um, and so if we have a choice, like, you know, I always tell people, you know, if we're, if we're, if we're gonna create that, why not create choice?

00:33:20.785 --> 00:33:26.694
And choice is a very, um, expansive way that we can say, okay, I am I gonna choose to, to say this again?

00:33:26.694 --> 00:33:29.125
Or am I going to, or am I gonna make a different choice for this?

00:33:29.125 --> 00:33:29.424
Right.

00:33:30.174 --> 00:33:30.234
Yeah.

00:33:30.234 --> 00:33:31.884
We make about 30,000 choices a day.

00:33:32.335 --> 00:33:38.515
And so if you think about it, we make, like, if you think about it, just getting out the, uh, getting up in the morning, like, am I gonna snooze or am I not gonna snooze?

00:33:38.515 --> 00:33:39.265
Am I gonna take a shower?

00:33:39.265 --> 00:33:39.744
Not shower?

00:33:39.744 --> 00:33:41.335
Am I gonna have my hair up, my hair down?

00:33:41.335 --> 00:33:42.204
Am I wearing the pink one?

00:33:42.204 --> 00:33:43.490
The blue and the, the Yeah.

00:33:43.490 --> 00:33:44.005
This morning

00:33:44.005 --> 00:33:49.375
I made a coffee with the Spanish coffee pot, which is one serving at a time rather than making a pot for everybody to share.

00:33:49.404 --> 00:33:50.569
'cause it's just, it's better, you know?

00:33:50.690 --> 00:33:51.009
I know, right?

00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:51.369
Like,

00:33:51.369 --> 00:33:52.444
but you, we make many choices.

00:33:52.444 --> 00:33:53.515
But some days I just want the easy buttons where

00:33:53.515 --> 00:33:55.555
I can just dump the pot in the cup, you know, I'm done.

00:33:55.704 --> 00:33:57.474
We make so many choices and so what are we choosing?

00:33:57.474 --> 00:34:12.804
Because, and just being more conscious, I think that we've been trained and ingrained to be, um, I think the biggest takeaway that I have realized, and maybe this is like Life, life lesson number 682, is that we've been trained and ingrained to.

00:34:13.344 --> 00:34:14.784
Be addicted to the hustle.

00:34:14.934 --> 00:34:15.114
Yeah.

00:34:15.114 --> 00:34:18.235
Especially in our businesses, the hustle, the grind, the do this.

00:34:18.235 --> 00:34:19.375
And I actually

00:34:19.974 --> 00:34:21.840
willing to react to circumstance, I think is the other big trip.

00:34:22.795 --> 00:34:32.485
I and I this last couple years, I just went through this whole personal transformation myself of just like, what is, why was, why was I listening to that?

00:34:32.574 --> 00:34:37.074
You know, that story that it has to be hard or it has to be, and I love time collapsing now.

00:34:37.405 --> 00:34:40.494
So it's like in business, I stopped all networking events.

00:34:40.945 --> 00:34:42.565
Um, and then I'm like, oh my gosh.

00:34:42.565 --> 00:34:48.655
Like I have so much more opportunities now and I'm, I'm speaking more and I'm, I'm casting my net.

00:34:48.715 --> 00:34:52.434
I am, you know, and there's only like, I'm like, how do we work smarter, not harder?

00:34:52.585 --> 00:34:55.465
And how do we be more in the flow of things?

00:34:55.585 --> 00:34:55.824
Yeah.

00:34:55.914 --> 00:35:00.324
Than, and, and that's been my new story of like, wow, this is much, so much easier.

00:35:00.324 --> 00:35:11.514
But I was, so, I trained and great into the hustle mode, the do the, do more the, you know, like just become a slave to your business and work the 60, 70, 80 hours.

00:35:11.514 --> 00:35:12.775
And I'm like, what are we doing?

00:35:12.835 --> 00:35:13.045
Yeah.

00:35:13.045 --> 00:35:13.375
Right.

00:35:13.375 --> 00:35:14.215
Like, what are we doing?

00:35:14.215 --> 00:35:14.304
The

00:35:14.304 --> 00:35:31.764
next thing I wanted to touch on, um, was I've heard tell that, um, in the entrepreneurial realm especially there's some entrepreneurs that are avoiders and some that are drawn to something meaning, and what I mean by that is some, some business owners.

00:35:32.485 --> 00:35:36.534
Or started a business to avoid working for that jerk, right.

00:35:36.534 --> 00:35:37.554
That they used to work for.

00:35:37.554 --> 00:35:37.565
Yeah.

00:35:37.795 --> 00:35:37.855
Yeah.

00:35:37.855 --> 00:35:40.764
Or like in your case, even to some extent, you were escaping

00:35:40.914 --> 00:35:41.184
Yeah.

00:35:41.275 --> 00:35:41.364
A

00:35:41.364 --> 00:35:45.324
circumstance where you didn't feel good about the integrity of the place where you were employed.

00:35:45.329 --> 00:35:45.389
Right.

00:35:45.594 --> 00:35:45.684
Right.

00:35:45.744 --> 00:35:47.784
Others are drawn to create something.

00:35:47.934 --> 00:35:48.144
Mm-hmm.

00:35:48.835 --> 00:35:59.610
And the speculation I have is that the practice that you started and built was really built on a foundation of avoiding.

00:36:01.105 --> 00:36:05.934
And you maybe didn't even, you were, you were, you were addicted to the hustle, so you built this Yeah.

00:36:05.965 --> 00:36:07.135
Seven figure firm.

00:36:07.644 --> 00:36:31.344
But even, maybe this is the big scary question, but do you think that that dissolution and, and even having those employees on the team that weren't really fitted or high integrity or fit with the role was some level of sabotage almost, because you were meant to not be focused on that, but to instead do something where you're creating Yeah.

00:36:31.344 --> 00:36:34.675
And drawn to the thing instead of avoiding the other thing.

00:36:34.945 --> 00:36:36.445
I don't dunno, I'm just speculating.

00:36:36.445 --> 00:36:38.610
I'm not a therapist, not licensed or insured.

00:36:39.170 --> 00:36:44.244
I, so when I went, when I started into the company, I, I was, it was just a private practice.

00:36:44.485 --> 00:36:44.755
Just you.

00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:45.985
That's all, that's all I wanted to do.

00:36:46.074 --> 00:36:46.255
Yep.

00:36:46.284 --> 00:36:48.054
It was all I, that's all I wanted to do.

00:36:48.144 --> 00:36:52.135
And then I very quickly realized within one year, I'm like, I don't get vacation.

00:36:52.139 --> 00:36:52.489
Right.

00:36:52.570 --> 00:36:53.610
I don't get time off either

00:36:53.650 --> 00:36:57.625
I don't get vacation or my clients don't get served for two weeks while I'm gone.

00:36:58.344 --> 00:36:58.434
Right.

00:36:58.434 --> 00:37:01.730
And so, and I was like, well, this is not who, who did you tell me this?

00:37:01.730 --> 00:37:02.514
I at least being a partner.

00:37:02.514 --> 00:37:02.875
Yeah.

00:37:02.875 --> 00:37:04.130
Who didn't tell me this, you know.

00:37:04.764 --> 00:37:08.635
So then as soon as I was like, okay, I don't wanna, I don't wanna, I wanna be able to take time off.

00:37:08.635 --> 00:37:09.684
I'm gonna have, yeah.

00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:16.255
I, I had a, uh, our young, our daughter was a, a super young at the time, and I said, I gotta create this.

00:37:16.255 --> 00:37:17.125
I gotta grow this.

00:37:17.125 --> 00:37:18.864
And so that was the intention.

00:37:18.894 --> 00:37:19.585
So that was the draw.

00:37:19.585 --> 00:37:22.735
And growing it to draw was growing it too, so that I could create time freedom.

00:37:22.824 --> 00:37:23.005
Yeah.

00:37:23.125 --> 00:37:27.085
And so that I could have, so I could, I could take off and be with my family in time.

00:37:27.085 --> 00:37:27.295
Right.

00:37:27.295 --> 00:37:27.385
Sure.

00:37:27.414 --> 00:37:37.704
So then I grew it with part-time, and then we went to, um, part-time, um, part-time contractors, and then I went to full-time contractors, and then I started learning what I, you know, then I was like, okay.

00:37:38.125 --> 00:37:40.675
I wanted to create a team and company culture.

00:37:40.885 --> 00:37:43.824
Um, and so then I was like, oh, we need to have them as w twos.

00:37:43.824 --> 00:37:46.764
And so then I grew it to w twos and expanded it that way.

00:37:46.764 --> 00:37:54.445
'cause I wanted to focus on the company culture, um, which I like, I loved and was, it was funny, I was working with a coach one time and she's like, well, what are you doing for your company culture?

00:37:54.445 --> 00:37:56.275
I'm like, I did not get that memo.

00:37:57.235 --> 00:37:57.594
Oh my gosh.

00:37:57.925 --> 00:37:59.664
And I was like, oh my gosh, I am failing.

00:37:59.664 --> 00:38:01.914
'cause I didn't know what the com I didn't even know what company culture was.

00:38:01.914 --> 00:38:02.304
Just kidding.

00:38:03.204 --> 00:38:06.219
I mean, I kind knew you hadn't been addressing it, but you'd been building it anyway, it sounds like.

00:38:06.224 --> 00:38:15.324
But then I, I, I sat and I was a good student and I was like, I was telling, and I, and she comes back and I, I, I was doing 67 things for our, our, our staff and our company.

00:38:15.324 --> 00:38:16.224
'cause I'm a love language.

00:38:16.405 --> 00:38:17.425
My love language is gift giving.

00:38:17.425 --> 00:38:20.215
And, and so I, I built in all these fun things.

00:38:20.215 --> 00:38:24.114
I was like, I really wanna create a company that people love to come to because they spend so much time here.

00:38:24.175 --> 00:38:28.795
And so I did a lot of fun little secretive things and a lot of fun things.

00:38:28.795 --> 00:38:28.804
Yeah.

00:38:28.824 --> 00:38:31.105
Like we had things every quarter.

00:38:31.105 --> 00:38:31.465
We, okay,

00:38:31.465 --> 00:38:33.625
so you were having fun when you were Oh my gosh, I

00:38:33.625 --> 00:38:34.005
loved it so much.

00:38:34.005 --> 00:38:34.099
Growing.

00:38:34.494 --> 00:38:35.454
Oh my gosh, yes.

00:38:35.454 --> 00:38:36.235
100%.

00:38:36.235 --> 00:38:36.864
I was in love.

00:38:36.864 --> 00:38:38.380
And then the shark and the alligator and all that.

00:38:38.380 --> 00:38:39.085
All the stuff you came out there.

00:38:39.085 --> 00:38:39.659
It was,

00:38:39.659 --> 00:38:39.900
yeah.

00:38:39.905 --> 00:38:51.445
But what happened was in 2019, I was at this conference and this, uh, uh, uh, is this group of women, um, and I was at this event and this lady comes over and she's like, uh, her name's Monica.

00:38:51.445 --> 00:38:52.074
And she's like, Terry.

00:38:52.074 --> 00:38:54.534
She's like, what's your biggest takeaway from this conference today?

00:38:54.565 --> 00:38:55.045
And I was like.

00:38:55.539 --> 00:38:56.980
I am Forrest Gump.

00:38:57.429 --> 00:38:58.389
She's like, what do you mean?

00:38:58.449 --> 00:39:08.349
It's like, you know, when he starts running in the movie and he starts running with passion and joy and he runs and runs and he actually starts creating people built community around him.

00:39:08.355 --> 00:39:08.375
Sure.

00:39:08.375 --> 00:39:08.534
Right.

00:39:08.590 --> 00:39:11.739
And he had people running with him and he just ran'cause he loved it.

00:39:11.739 --> 00:39:12.070
Right.

00:39:12.130 --> 00:39:15.820
And then at some point he like slows to a walk and he says, I'm done.

00:39:15.824 --> 00:39:15.974
Yep.

00:39:16.210 --> 00:39:16.900
I'm going home.

00:39:17.590 --> 00:39:19.269
And I said, I'm done.

00:39:19.539 --> 00:39:20.230
I'm going home.

00:39:20.650 --> 00:39:23.380
And so I was at peace in 2019.

00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:29.619
Um, I grieved it, so everything I did, I knew I was leaving it and I knew we were, were walking away from it.

00:39:30.340 --> 00:39:33.039
And so I grieved it for a whole year in silence.

00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:34.630
I wrote letters to it.

00:39:34.630 --> 00:39:35.889
I mean, it was my baby.

00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:36.730
Like it was, um,

00:39:37.030 --> 00:39:38.409
this is pre COVID and everything, so.

00:39:38.409 --> 00:39:38.619
Oh

00:39:38.619 --> 00:39:38.949
yeah.

00:39:38.949 --> 00:39:45.099
Like I was, I, I was, it was, um, a really hard, um, uh, um.

00:39:45.954 --> 00:39:46.855
Transition for me.

00:39:46.855 --> 00:39:50.695
And I had my, uh, my admin and my other, uh, office manager.

00:39:51.114 --> 00:39:53.215
Uh, my office manager ended up passing away.

00:39:53.244 --> 00:39:55.135
Uh,'cause she had, uh, pancreatic cancer.

00:39:55.135 --> 00:39:56.545
She was with us for eight years.

00:39:56.545 --> 00:39:56.554
Mm-hmm.

00:39:56.579 --> 00:39:56.820
Sorry.

00:39:56.965 --> 00:40:05.664
And I chose not to leave the business earlier than that because I loved my staff and I loved our company and I loved our culture.

00:40:05.664 --> 00:40:09.085
And I loved the, the admin team was like so tight.

00:40:09.085 --> 00:40:12.474
And so, and that's the only reason I chose not to leave it earlier.

00:40:13.045 --> 00:40:16.554
Um, but I know that I was, um, in 2019 I was done.

00:40:17.065 --> 00:40:19.494
Um, and that was after, you know, she had passed.

00:40:19.494 --> 00:40:21.655
And then I was like, okay, like it's ready.

00:40:21.655 --> 00:40:25.105
So I grieved it in silence and then 2020 came

00:40:26.454 --> 00:40:26.994
no time to grieve.

00:40:27.925 --> 00:40:28.465
And I was

00:40:28.465 --> 00:40:31.465
like, okay, I'm thrust, I'm thrusted back into this.

00:40:31.465 --> 00:40:31.855
Right.

00:40:31.885 --> 00:40:37.255
And then I had my other company growing and expanding and this company had been owner independent for about 10 years.

00:40:37.344 --> 00:40:37.494
Oh, wow.

00:40:37.704 --> 00:40:43.224
And so I was only in there, I was still there, but I was only working probably two hours a month in that company.

00:40:43.230 --> 00:40:43.579
Gotcha.

00:40:43.704 --> 00:40:48.594
And so grew that and I mean, um, it was really owner independent.

00:40:48.594 --> 00:40:51.534
And then the other talking with Terry was growing and expanding.

00:40:51.534 --> 00:40:55.525
And so I felt like a ninja because I had these two worlds.

00:40:55.855 --> 00:40:55.914
Yeah.

00:40:55.945 --> 00:40:56.364
Right.

00:40:56.364 --> 00:41:02.335
And um, and so, but at one point I realized that this was no longer giving me joy.

00:41:02.340 --> 00:41:02.579
Right.

00:41:02.585 --> 00:41:05.755
And the other one was giving me massive joy and I was feeling like.

00:41:06.460 --> 00:41:13.059
I understand the path and I understand why this happened, and I understand the, the evolution of it.

00:41:13.059 --> 00:41:17.710
'cause if you would've asked me 20 years ago, I would've said this would, the counseling practice would've been my end all be all

00:41:17.715 --> 00:41:17.974
right.

00:41:18.125 --> 00:41:20.260
Like, that was, and my, and my daughter was like, what kind of a dream

00:41:20.260 --> 00:41:22.329
of an o owner independent business.

00:41:22.329 --> 00:41:27.280
You know, you just, you know, siping martinis and beaten bond bonds.

00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:27.969
Exactly.

00:41:27.969 --> 00:41:28.019
And going to exact beaches.

00:41:28.019 --> 00:41:28.659
That's exactly what it's, let's

00:41:28.659 --> 00:41:29.110
just look Yeah.

00:41:29.110 --> 00:41:29.980
That's exactly what it was.

00:41:29.980 --> 00:41:30.375
No, I'm just kidding.

00:41:30.914 --> 00:41:39.219
But I, I, um, and I realized that it like was the evolution of me and I needed those experiences.

00:41:39.219 --> 00:41:44.289
And I, and I just, there's such gr gratitude in, in so many gifts that I, I received outta that.

00:41:44.409 --> 00:41:49.210
And then, um, going into what I am now, and like, I feel like this is my calling.

00:41:49.510 --> 00:41:53.710
Like this is a calling that I can, and I've tried to dig my heels in long and hard on these.

00:41:53.800 --> 00:42:00.429
And every time I'm like, and how many of you, like the listeners are that are like, oh my gosh, who do I give my resignation to?

00:42:00.460 --> 00:42:01.000
Like, who?

00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:03.969
Just like, who can I, who can, can I just quit?

00:42:03.969 --> 00:42:04.269
Right.

00:42:04.275 --> 00:42:04.534
Right.

00:42:04.929 --> 00:42:11.170
And this, and, and, and even with the talking with Terry, like I, there was moments where I was like, I'm not getting clarity.

00:42:11.170 --> 00:42:12.369
Like, what am I supposed to be doing?

00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.849
'cause I was like, what is, and, and it's, it's evolved and it's grown.

00:42:15.849 --> 00:42:24.849
And now I'm like, even last night, oh my gosh, it was so juicy because like, like I've been asking for more clarity and then it happened last night and I was like, huh?

00:42:25.204 --> 00:42:27.494
Like during the show, like afterwards?

00:42:27.494 --> 00:42:27.695
Yeah.

00:42:27.875 --> 00:42:28.449
Or something like right before

00:42:28.449 --> 00:42:31.119
the show, I had this awareness and it was like a minor tweak.

00:42:31.179 --> 00:42:33.519
A little minor tweak that we were gonna do.

00:42:33.579 --> 00:42:33.760
Yeah.

00:42:34.150 --> 00:42:36.760
And I did it and I was like, that is it.

00:42:36.820 --> 00:42:39.369
And I mean, I just, I felt it.

00:42:39.429 --> 00:42:40.269
Everyone felt it.

00:42:40.269 --> 00:42:44.559
And I had one of the ladies, one of our sponsors, she's been with me on this journey the whole time.

00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:50.815
And in the beginning we were doing it weekly, and then we went to bi-week or bi-monthly, and she was with me the whole time.

00:42:50.815 --> 00:42:51.789
And she's like, I see it.

00:42:51.789 --> 00:42:54.070
Like I just, I, and I was like, yes, it's here.

00:42:54.070 --> 00:42:55.449
And so it's been super exhausty.

00:42:55.449 --> 00:43:04.360
And so even just, even just yesterday, like, it just, um, just like this path of, this evolution of, and I know what in my heart of hearts, what I'm here to do.

00:43:04.420 --> 00:43:04.750
Yeah.

00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:07.630
Um, and like what my, my skillset is.

00:43:07.630 --> 00:43:11.349
And so I think all of the other stuff helped build me to this point.

00:43:11.349 --> 00:43:13.659
And now I'm ready to take on my calling.

00:43:13.659 --> 00:43:13.840
What an

00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:21.400
interesting place, like, uh, even like describing who you are you a are a media personality?

00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:22.840
Are you an influencer?

00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.539
Are you a business success therapist?

00:43:25.539 --> 00:43:26.485
You know, you're kind of, who am I?

00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:28.659
All these things a little bit.

00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:33.880
Um, and, um, where do you go from here?

00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:34.389
Mm-hmm.

00:43:34.630 --> 00:43:34.780
Right?

00:43:34.780 --> 00:43:39.340
Or like, what's your, what's your YouTube subscriber follower account?

00:43:39.340 --> 00:43:39.579
Is it.

00:43:39.969 --> 00:43:41.019
I mean, it's not crazy.

00:43:41.019 --> 00:43:41.710
It's not crazy.

00:43:41.710 --> 00:43:42.519
We're growing it.

00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:42.579
Yeah.

00:43:42.699 --> 00:43:44.469
Um, but I think what, some

00:43:44.469 --> 00:43:45.340
thousands though.

00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:45.760
Yeah.

00:43:46.150 --> 00:43:53.110
And, but the syndication is gonna like, put you in front of some tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands more watchers likely.

00:43:53.184 --> 00:43:53.474
Yeah.

00:43:53.769 --> 00:43:53.980
Yeah.

00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.590
And, and because of this show right here, right.

00:43:56.590 --> 00:43:57.275
This, this is the magic.

00:43:57.550 --> 00:43:57.730
Yeah.

00:43:57.730 --> 00:43:57.969
This

00:43:57.969 --> 00:43:59.889
is gonna be the lever to your success right here.

00:43:59.889 --> 00:44:00.130
Yeah.

00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:01.030
1000%.

00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:04.960
If I think it, no, that's not what, what does that mean?

00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:07.480
When, when I don't actually believe something that I say.

00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:07.539
Yeah.

00:44:07.675 --> 00:44:07.755
Right.

00:44:07.755 --> 00:44:08.860
Come on, let, let's do this.

00:44:09.309 --> 00:44:12.909
Um, but I think, uh, so, um, well let me ask you this.

00:44:12.940 --> 00:44:13.150
Sure.

00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:17.619
Like what, what do you feel like your, like God-given gift is for this planet?

00:44:17.650 --> 00:44:18.639
Like what are you here?

00:44:18.699 --> 00:44:22.989
Like what are you, and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you a little cheat sheet while you think about that.

00:44:22.989 --> 00:44:23.260
Okay.

00:44:23.590 --> 00:44:29.500
So probably about eight months ago, um, maybe nine, maybe nine months ago, I was in front of this spiritual group.

00:44:29.500 --> 00:44:34.510
And when we were up in the mountains and we had, uh, just went to the hot springs and we're like going to grab lunch.

00:44:34.510 --> 00:44:38.440
And when you're with spiritual people, like the question is not like, Hey, what are you doing this weekend?

00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:40.510
The question is like, what's your soul's purpose?

00:44:40.869 --> 00:44:46.630
And so this lady, her name's Ari, she's this just incredibly talented healer.

00:44:46.989 --> 00:44:51.159
And she's like, she went first and she's like, what?

00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:55.780
I am here to walk the earth and as I walk the earth, I am healing Mother Gaia.

00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:58.119
And I'm like, how do you follow that?

00:44:59.050 --> 00:44:59.349
Right?

00:44:59.769 --> 00:45:00.460
Seriously.

00:45:01.510 --> 00:45:04.719
And then the next person goes, and she says she uses her.

00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.630
She's an incredibly gifted, uh, singer.

00:45:07.989 --> 00:45:09.940
And, uh, she uses gong.

00:45:10.179 --> 00:45:18.250
And she's like, when people are in my presence and I sing and I, uh, use the gong, I actually change the vibration of their bodies and I heal their bodies.

00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:19.539
And now I'm freaking out.

00:45:19.539 --> 00:45:19.780
Okay.

00:45:19.780 --> 00:45:21.039
I have no idea what to say.

00:45:21.130 --> 00:45:23.590
It's the next person I am like, don't even listen to.

00:45:23.590 --> 00:45:25.030
Because I'm like, oh my gosh, what am I gonna say?

00:45:25.030 --> 00:45:26.920
That's gonna sound brilliant and amazing, right?

00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:31.809
And so it gets to me and I'm like, ah, I said, I, I said, I don't know.

00:45:31.809 --> 00:45:36.010
It's, it's using my energy, my creativity, like, and I, and I have a lot of humor.

00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:38.949
I use a lot of, you know, and, and combining it with talking.

00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:40.059
Yeah.

00:45:40.059 --> 00:45:47.289
So, and the lady next to me, she's like, because over the time I've had people come up to me, complete strangers.

00:45:47.289 --> 00:45:53.530
Even just recently, I had, I was at a, a restaurant and we were sitting, I don't know, like probably seven tables away from each other.

00:45:53.530 --> 00:45:55.659
And I was having a conversation with this lady.

00:45:56.110 --> 00:46:03.579
I get up and leave, I'm following the lady out, and this other late, this other table, I get close to the table and the, there was three women sitting at the table.

00:46:03.579 --> 00:46:05.980
There was a grandmother, mother and granddaughter.

00:46:06.099 --> 00:46:06.309
Okay.

00:46:06.369 --> 00:46:11.500
And the grandmother taps me on the arm and I think, okay, I must have dropped something, was my assumption.

00:46:11.739 --> 00:46:12.909
And she's like, Hey, ma'am.

00:46:12.909 --> 00:46:13.659
And I go, yes.

00:46:13.809 --> 00:46:17.530
And she goes, I just wanna let you know, I just love your energy.

00:46:18.085 --> 00:46:21.715
And over the years I've had people come up to me and like, I love your energy.

00:46:21.715 --> 00:46:22.260
I love your energy.

00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:25.465
I'm like, I'm like, great that my energy is my superpower.

00:46:25.554 --> 00:46:25.764
Yeah.

00:46:25.974 --> 00:46:27.684
So how do I use that?

00:46:27.715 --> 00:46:33.655
And I'm like, so I now, with the show, I've been activating people.

00:46:33.715 --> 00:46:33.835
Hmm.

00:46:33.894 --> 00:46:38.065
So I'll have sales calls and I'll, I'll be like, oh yeah, da da da.

00:46:38.065 --> 00:46:39.235
And then like, oh my gosh, that's brilliant.

00:46:39.235 --> 00:46:42.295
I have, and they'll, they'll get activated and then they'll like, go do it.

00:46:42.355 --> 00:46:43.824
And I'm like, fantastic.

00:46:43.855 --> 00:46:44.275
And so,

00:46:44.364 --> 00:46:46.224
like, what do you mean you'll have sales calls?

00:46:46.224 --> 00:46:46.434
Like, like

00:46:46.434 --> 00:46:51.114
I'll just, any type of call or a sales call or something like that, and someone's like, oh my gosh, thank you.

00:46:51.114 --> 00:46:53.155
Just, oh, like being in the, like you leave them,

00:46:53.215 --> 00:46:55.045
uh, and they're like, and you found them?

00:46:55.045 --> 00:46:55.494
Yeah.

00:46:55.494 --> 00:46:56.605
And it's like, it's capacity.

00:46:56.605 --> 00:46:56.860
It's so funny.

00:46:56.860 --> 00:46:58.105
And I was like, oh my gosh, I love this.

00:46:58.105 --> 00:46:59.695
And so I'm like, how do I leverage that?

00:46:59.695 --> 00:47:03.235
And so that's how I feel like I can leverage Yeah.

00:47:03.565 --> 00:47:04.494
The activation.

00:47:04.494 --> 00:47:14.304
So last night we did a whole bunch of fun things, but it's like, you know, and one-on-one coaching, uh, which I, I will, I can, I will still do, um, here and there.

00:47:14.335 --> 00:47:14.664
Yeah.

00:47:14.724 --> 00:47:17.005
Um, but it's one person at a time.

00:47:17.010 --> 00:47:17.574
Right, right.

00:47:17.605 --> 00:47:20.244
And I wanna be able to help thousands of people.

00:47:20.244 --> 00:47:20.574
Yeah.

00:47:20.579 --> 00:47:20.590
Yeah.

00:47:20.934 --> 00:47:22.074
And so I'm like, how do we, if you can

00:47:22.074 --> 00:47:24.175
raise an eyebrow and move somebody, yes.

00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:24.500
I'm

00:47:24.500 --> 00:47:27.414
like, how do we, how do we activate within people?

00:47:27.414 --> 00:47:30.565
And right now energy's shift shifting significantly.

00:47:30.684 --> 00:47:34.795
And so I feel like people are becoming more aware and awake to what they're.

00:47:35.710 --> 00:47:36.730
God-given talents are.

00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:42.849
And so people are waking up to this like, Hey, I'm getting rid of this job because this JOB is no longer serving me.

00:47:42.849 --> 00:47:42.909
Yeah.

00:47:42.909 --> 00:47:47.710
And I hire like this higher knowing that I'm supposed to hear be here and do this.

00:47:47.710 --> 00:47:48.039
Right.

00:47:48.070 --> 00:47:51.789
And so there's massive people I've, I've experienced Yeah.

00:47:51.820 --> 00:47:53.739
Really questioning what they've been doing.

00:47:53.949 --> 00:47:54.429
Oh, sure.

00:47:54.579 --> 00:47:55.360
Or experiences like,

00:47:55.539 --> 00:47:56.860
like every Gen Z

00:47:57.070 --> 00:47:57.460
Yeah.

00:47:57.460 --> 00:47:57.969
Mean or just

00:47:57.969 --> 00:47:59.019
about or whatever it is.

00:47:59.025 --> 00:47:59.800
Is that the current one?

00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:00.219
No, that's millennials.

00:48:00.219 --> 00:48:00.610
Millennial?

00:48:01.300 --> 00:48:01.690
No.

00:48:01.690 --> 00:48:02.974
They, or no, gen Z is Z Gen.

00:48:02.974 --> 00:48:03.175
Yeah.

00:48:03.175 --> 00:48:03.255
Yeah.

00:48:03.655 --> 00:48:03.855
Millennial.

00:48:03.855 --> 00:48:04.094
Yeah.

00:48:04.375 --> 00:48:04.614
Millennials.

00:48:04.614 --> 00:48:05.494
And then Gen ZI think.

00:48:05.775 --> 00:48:06.159
I think, I

00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:12.369
mean they're like, they're kind of reprogramming what it means to be, um, a successful human.

00:48:12.429 --> 00:48:12.730
Yeah.

00:48:12.730 --> 00:48:13.570
In some ways.

00:48:13.630 --> 00:48:15.460
And I used to be, in all fairness.

00:48:15.550 --> 00:48:15.880
Okay.

00:48:16.269 --> 00:48:17.139
No haters, please.

00:48:17.170 --> 00:48:17.469
Okay.

00:48:17.769 --> 00:48:20.110
In the, in the beginning, I, I didn't really understand.

00:48:20.530 --> 00:48:22.000
And then I understand their gift now.

00:48:22.539 --> 00:48:25.480
Their gift was like, we are, no, we are balking the system.

00:48:25.570 --> 00:48:25.750
Yeah.

00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:30.880
We are not gonna work 50, 60, 70 hours a week and get paid for 50, you know, or 40.

00:48:30.969 --> 00:48:31.210
Right.

00:48:31.389 --> 00:48:34.239
And I really, at first when I was a business owner, I was like, wait, what?

00:48:34.300 --> 00:48:34.630
Right.

00:48:34.989 --> 00:48:42.070
Um, but now I can see the gift in it and I'm like, good on them for bringing about this new awareness that says maybe we can work smarter, not harder.

00:48:42.130 --> 00:48:42.280
Yeah.

00:48:42.550 --> 00:48:44.619
And what if we can do these things?

00:48:44.619 --> 00:48:47.650
And I just, I feel like this, I mean, it's all beautiful.

00:48:47.650 --> 00:48:47.769
Well, a

00:48:47.769 --> 00:48:50.650
lot of these boomers and Gen Xers have too big a houses anyway.

00:48:50.650 --> 00:48:53.650
They might as well have their kids move back in with them for 20 years.

00:48:53.650 --> 00:48:53.739
Right.

00:48:53.860 --> 00:48:54.489
Exactly.

00:48:54.489 --> 00:48:54.500
Exactly.

00:48:54.699 --> 00:48:55.000
Sorry.

00:48:55.090 --> 00:48:58.599
But I feel like there's like, there's like this new, um.

00:49:00.730 --> 00:49:04.809
It's this new energy that's coming in that's really helping us really get clear Yeah.

00:49:05.019 --> 00:49:10.945
On what is important and what are we, what have we, we been sacrificing, what have we Yeah.

00:49:10.989 --> 00:49:16.599
Been, um, kind of like selling our souls for, you know, I've said in the past,

00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:19.300
uh, my special talent is identifying special talent.

00:49:19.539 --> 00:49:19.809
Yeah.

00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:24.760
Um, and I don't know if that's necessarily true, although it definitely is something I I have an eye for talent.

00:49:24.820 --> 00:49:24.880
Yeah.

00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:25.239
Certainly.

00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:25.300
Yeah.

00:49:25.329 --> 00:49:27.579
And I'm not, I'm not that talented.

00:49:27.579 --> 00:49:28.989
So that's, that's my talent.

00:49:29.110 --> 00:49:41.409
And then also I think, and I was just reflecting as you, as you were chatting, that in some ways my superpower is a little bit like chat GPTs, like my Love it.

00:49:41.469 --> 00:49:44.739
Unending curiosity about every topic.

00:49:44.889 --> 00:49:44.980
Yes.

00:49:44.980 --> 00:49:46.840
And that's why I love the podcast.

00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:51.610
That's why I love business and research and travel and adventure.

00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:51.880
Love.

00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:53.619
It is, I just want to aggregate.

00:49:53.949 --> 00:49:54.579
Well, yes.

00:49:54.579 --> 00:49:58.840
And like, I cannot be nearly as good at it as chat.

00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:02.050
GPT Orrock is, you know, I'm just a human.

00:50:02.050 --> 00:50:09.610
And so I wonder, I've, I've, I was reflecting to myself if, if my superpower has been like superseded by the existence of these.

00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:11.949
Scouring enterprises never.

00:50:11.949 --> 00:50:13.809
But what they don't have is never is creativity.

00:50:13.809 --> 00:50:13.869
Yeah.

00:50:13.929 --> 00:50:18.639
I'm also a very creative person, I believe, and a pretty funny guy if I do say so myself.

00:50:18.730 --> 00:50:18.789
Yeah.

00:50:19.329 --> 00:50:20.559
Um, but yeah.

00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:28.809
Anyway, that was, that was my quick musing as, as we were chatting is, is my superpower, you know, still relevant, still useful in the world today?

00:50:29.324 --> 00:50:30.670
I, I believe so.

00:50:30.820 --> 00:50:37.539
And I, one of the things that, um, AI will never be able to take out is the human experience.

00:50:37.539 --> 00:50:37.900
Right?

00:50:37.905 --> 00:50:38.045
Sure.

00:50:38.500 --> 00:50:42.670
And, um, our ability to think the way that humans think, right.

00:50:43.150 --> 00:50:44.349
That's never gonna be replaced.

00:50:44.409 --> 00:50:44.559
Yeah.

00:50:44.650 --> 00:50:51.039
Um, I don't believe, and, um, like, and we know for sure that it can't replace a soul, right?

00:50:51.130 --> 00:50:54.190
It can't replace the soul that's, that's embodied in us.

00:50:54.190 --> 00:50:54.519
Right.

00:50:54.969 --> 00:50:59.889
And I think, I think here's my, where I live at, right?

00:50:59.889 --> 00:51:08.260
Like, I'm like, okay, AI is gonna come in, the robots are gonna take away all the human things that humans hate to do, and then we get to live in, it's like, you know,

00:51:08.344 --> 00:51:08.764
utopia,

00:51:08.769 --> 00:51:11.079
utopia with eating bomb bombs on beaches.

00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:11.284
Right, right, right.

00:51:11.289 --> 00:51:12.610
Like, that's, that's what I see.

00:51:12.610 --> 00:51:16.210
But, but I also think that, um, except for there's

00:51:16.210 --> 00:51:17.505
no tax base left, so I know Right.

00:51:17.644 --> 00:51:18.585
Shit's gonna hit the fan.

00:51:19.244 --> 00:51:19.465
Um,

00:51:20.380 --> 00:51:28.809
well, I, I started channeling about, um, well since March of this, this year, so however long that's been, and, um.

00:51:29.650 --> 00:51:30.255
And I, this is

00:51:30.255 --> 00:51:32.170
like psychic medium kind of stuff going on.

00:51:32.170 --> 00:51:33.820
Are we talking about when you say channeling?

00:51:33.820 --> 00:51:33.940
When

00:51:33.940 --> 00:51:35.980
I channel like you're channeling your higher self.

00:51:36.010 --> 00:51:36.400
Okay.

00:51:36.820 --> 00:51:51.010
And I'm telling you, like it was, I had such blocks about getting, you know, getting there and I had a good friend of mine and she's like, she's uber talented and channels and channels, galactic beings and all, all sorts of wild things.

00:51:51.010 --> 00:51:52.059
And I said, can you help?

00:51:52.150 --> 00:51:53.440
And like, I'm like, unblocked.

00:51:53.469 --> 00:51:55.510
So she came in and helped me, unblock me.

00:51:55.809 --> 00:51:56.050
Okay.

00:51:56.260 --> 00:51:58.000
And then I was, and she's like, okay, now we're gonna do this.

00:51:58.000 --> 00:51:59.199
And I'm like, Hmm, okay.

00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:01.179
So I start, I started doing automatic writing.

00:52:01.539 --> 00:52:03.400
And so automatic writing, I've heard of it a little

00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:03.610
bit.

00:52:03.730 --> 00:52:05.289
It's like you're channeling your higher self.

00:52:05.289 --> 00:52:09.460
So you do have to get yourself into the mindset and Yeah.

00:52:09.460 --> 00:52:10.510
Into the energy of it.

00:52:10.510 --> 00:52:10.719
And

00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:11.860
do you have to take mushrooms or anything?

00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:12.340
No.

00:52:12.340 --> 00:52:13.735
Like, oh, just curious.

00:52:14.295 --> 00:52:14.655
I dunno.

00:52:16.554 --> 00:52:17.170
You just get

00:52:17.170 --> 00:52:18.940
yourself, that meditation and stuff is really hard.

00:52:18.940 --> 00:52:20.135
Sometimes you can just hit the easy button.

00:52:20.304 --> 00:52:20.655
Right?

00:52:21.005 --> 00:52:21.775
Drop a Exactly.

00:52:22.750 --> 00:52:23.739
A handful of mushrooms.

00:52:23.739 --> 00:52:24.400
Exactly.

00:52:25.059 --> 00:52:25.630
I suppose.

00:52:25.630 --> 00:52:38.559
I mean, I don't know, like, I mean maybe, um, but anyway, you, you, you know, there's a process that I go through and I get into my, you know, get everything on, on, on, uh, on board as far as like my heart, my, my, all the things kind of aligned, if you will.

00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:41.530
And so there's like a five minute like exercise that I go through to get clear on that.

00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:44.170
And then I started to accessing the higher self.

00:52:44.260 --> 00:52:51.760
And I mean, it's gave me such clarity and I can tell it's not me because it's things I would never say.

00:52:51.789 --> 00:52:53.380
It's when I read it back.

00:52:53.380 --> 00:52:57.610
And so when you're, when I'm in the moment writing it, and at the beginning I had to like close my eyes.

00:52:57.610 --> 00:52:57.969
I couldn't.

00:52:58.690 --> 00:53:01.659
Because if I opened my eyes, I would disconnect from it.

00:53:01.659 --> 00:53:01.989
Yeah.

00:53:02.469 --> 00:53:05.230
And then over the time, and I was, I was like, oh my gosh.

00:53:05.230 --> 00:53:09.219
Like this is like your own personal Chad, GBT that knows everything about you.

00:53:09.219 --> 00:53:10.599
And it's like so juicy.

00:53:10.630 --> 00:53:11.559
And it was so amazing.

00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:18.460
And so I, I, I started and I started writing about all like the, the dark night of the soul, like getting quashed and like awareness to it.

00:53:18.460 --> 00:53:19.449
And I'm like, oh my gosh.

00:53:19.449 --> 00:53:24.579
Like, it was so helpful and, and like understanding why it happened and the way it did.

00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:27.849
And I was like, oh, I mean, like you can't make this stuff up.

00:53:27.849 --> 00:53:34.809
And I went, I have gone through probably seven journals, um, in this last, you know, nine months.

00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:34.900
Wow.

00:53:35.260 --> 00:53:38.170
And just getting clarity and it's, it's pretty wild.

00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:46.750
But I think as humans evolve, we're gonna go and figure out how to tap into that more often.

00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:51.579
And so not relying on chat GBT external ai.

00:53:51.699 --> 00:53:51.909
Yeah.

00:53:51.940 --> 00:53:55.269
Because as humans we still have this human experience.

00:53:55.329 --> 00:53:55.539
Yeah.

00:53:55.750 --> 00:54:03.610
And I think, um, I know that when I was doing my personal journey and my personal growth journey, I always looked for other people outside of me.

00:54:04.375 --> 00:54:05.275
For the answers.

00:54:05.304 --> 00:54:05.724
Right.

00:54:06.054 --> 00:54:13.914
I looked for this therapist, I looked for this, this person I looked in for, the LinkedIn person I looked in for this, I looked for this personal development coach over here.

00:54:13.914 --> 00:54:15.534
And this like looking for answers.

00:54:15.534 --> 00:54:15.625
Sure.

00:54:15.625 --> 00:54:23.605
Gurus and I and I, I pretty much have done, like, I've had my hand written, I, uh, read, I've had my, you know, chakras clear.

00:54:23.909 --> 00:54:24.199
Yeah.

00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:25.199
What are the lifelines checked?

00:54:25.405 --> 00:54:28.105
I, I've had like, I mean my birth chart, like all the things, right?

00:54:28.105 --> 00:54:28.974
Like I've done all it.

00:54:28.974 --> 00:54:32.574
'cause I'm just, I'm a curious person too, and I'm just like, I'm super curious about life.

00:54:32.574 --> 00:54:34.494
And I'm like, I'm like, I have like a 4-year-old brain.

00:54:34.494 --> 00:54:35.485
I'm like, why?

00:54:35.695 --> 00:54:35.934
Why?

00:54:36.744 --> 00:54:37.074
Tell me.

00:54:37.704 --> 00:54:37.974
Yeah.

00:54:38.065 --> 00:54:47.364
And so, um, but once I got into that place where I'm connecting with my higher self, I now know all the answers are within me.

00:54:47.664 --> 00:54:48.054
Right?

00:54:48.085 --> 00:54:48.235
Hmm.

00:54:48.534 --> 00:54:51.264
And I have, there's such clarity and peace.

00:54:51.565 --> 00:54:55.135
All the answers for you are within you or, or all the answers for ev of everything.

00:54:55.135 --> 00:54:55.164
Of, of me.

00:54:55.224 --> 00:54:56.215
Of you, of me, of you.

00:54:56.215 --> 00:54:56.250
Of me.

00:54:56.304 --> 00:54:56.635
Yeah.

00:54:56.635 --> 00:54:56.644
Yeah.

00:54:56.994 --> 00:54:58.369
I mean, I'm understanding yourself is within you.

00:54:58.559 --> 00:54:59.210
Yeah, exactly.

00:54:59.210 --> 00:54:59.449
Yeah.

00:54:59.449 --> 00:54:59.650
I get it.

00:54:59.650 --> 00:54:59.769
Okay.

00:54:59.789 --> 00:55:00.010
But

00:55:00.204 --> 00:55:02.994
I can now make choices in business.

00:55:02.994 --> 00:55:04.525
I can make choices in life.

00:55:04.525 --> 00:55:07.614
I can understand if something happened, like, I'll give you an example.

00:55:08.664 --> 00:55:11.034
I had this lady and we, we were friends, good friends.

00:55:11.094 --> 00:55:20.635
And then about six months ago, like, she just like, like cut the relationship in a very abrupt kind of like, I'm gonna say like I felt a little disrespectful way.

00:55:20.815 --> 00:55:20.994
Yeah.

00:55:21.445 --> 00:55:22.675
And I was kind of hurt about it.

00:55:22.795 --> 00:55:25.045
And I was like, but like, what happened?

00:55:26.184 --> 00:55:29.994
And so then I went back in and I started writing about it, channeling about it.

00:55:30.715 --> 00:55:35.005
It gave me such clarity as to why that had to happen the way it did.

00:55:35.155 --> 00:55:35.485
Okay.

00:55:35.994 --> 00:55:37.614
And I was like, oh my gosh.

00:55:37.614 --> 00:55:43.014
And so her and I reached up, we, we reached out back each, or talked to her, reconnected, whatever, reconnected just recently.

00:55:43.764 --> 00:55:46.195
And I told her, I was like, I wanna read this to you.

00:55:46.704 --> 00:55:48.505
I went back in, I was like, it was like months ago.

00:55:48.715 --> 00:55:51.114
And I went back and I read it to her and she's just like, wow.

00:55:51.114 --> 00:55:52.554
She's like, I'm so glad that you got it.

00:55:52.585 --> 00:55:56.304
'cause she's like, I knew I had to like do something really sudden.

00:55:56.394 --> 00:55:56.545
Hmm.

00:55:56.815 --> 00:56:04.375
So that, and I was like, because we had a good relationship, but I was also relying on her for also like my, also my spiritual development.

00:56:04.494 --> 00:56:04.704
Okay.

00:56:04.974 --> 00:56:07.074
And I was relying on her a little too much.

00:56:07.135 --> 00:56:07.284
Yeah.

00:56:07.405 --> 00:56:10.164
For insights instead of trusting myself.

00:56:10.224 --> 00:56:10.465
Yeah.

00:56:10.614 --> 00:56:12.670
Because I would, I would get something and I was like, well, is this true?

00:56:12.690 --> 00:56:13.190
So forced

00:56:13.190 --> 00:56:15.804
you kind of to, to examine for yourself.

00:56:15.804 --> 00:56:16.284
Oh my gosh.

00:56:16.284 --> 00:56:16.494
It was

00:56:16.494 --> 00:56:17.155
like, yes.

00:56:17.155 --> 00:56:20.574
And I, and I was like, oh my gosh, I have, I have got to start to trust.

00:56:20.844 --> 00:56:27.505
'cause what do I was doing was like, I would get something and I was like, and I'd run to her and I'd ask her, I'm like, well, is this, do you think, do you get a hit on this?

00:56:27.505 --> 00:56:28.465
Do you, do you read this?

00:56:28.465 --> 00:56:30.175
'cause I wasn't trusting myself.

00:56:30.179 --> 00:56:30.349
Yeah.

00:56:30.625 --> 00:56:32.454
And my understanding of myself.

00:56:32.454 --> 00:56:35.065
And so, and when that happened I was like, okay.

00:56:35.304 --> 00:56:39.184
And now it's such a beautiful thing because now I have this tool within me.

00:56:39.775 --> 00:56:42.385
That I can have such clarity for myself.

00:56:42.385 --> 00:56:46.255
And so if there's something that's going on wackadoo, I'm like, okay, let me just tune into this.

00:56:46.255 --> 00:56:46.315
Yeah.

00:56:46.405 --> 00:56:49.465
And understand it from a, a bigger level.

00:56:49.525 --> 00:56:49.614
Yeah.

00:56:49.614 --> 00:56:50.244
If that makes sense.

00:56:50.244 --> 00:56:50.394
I think

00:56:50.394 --> 00:56:50.605
so.

00:56:51.204 --> 00:56:54.954
And I'm new to this, so like some of you guys, there're still exploring.

00:56:54.954 --> 00:56:56.335
I'm still exploring, like, I'm like, I just got my baby.

00:56:56.335 --> 00:56:57.175
I got my little swimmers.

00:56:57.175 --> 00:56:57.355
That's, uh,

00:56:58.525 --> 00:57:11.664
so talk to me about, like, I hear you talking using words like, like soul and consciousness and different things, but, um, you're a Midwestern girl, so you were probably either a Lutheran or a Catholic back in the day or something.

00:57:11.664 --> 00:57:13.525
Do you have a, a, a faith background?

00:57:14.094 --> 00:57:18.744
Does you conception of the world conflict with that?

00:57:18.804 --> 00:57:20.364
Have you left that behind?

00:57:20.364 --> 00:57:20.454
Yeah.

00:57:20.454 --> 00:57:20.949
Talk to me about that.

00:57:21.170 --> 00:57:24.204
So I, when I grew up, my parents weren't huge into the church.

00:57:24.625 --> 00:57:24.744
Okay.

00:57:25.074 --> 00:57:31.195
I, my grandparents and my, my dad were more, they, we were Lutheran and then we went to, but nominal kind of,

00:57:31.465 --> 00:57:31.974
if you will.

00:57:32.304 --> 00:57:37.255
And then, um, and then over the years, like I, I think I became more spiritual.

00:57:37.434 --> 00:57:37.525
Mm-hmm.

00:57:37.914 --> 00:57:44.304
Um, and so, um, and then working with clients, I, I, I've seen clients from all sorts of backgrounds.

00:57:44.304 --> 00:57:44.394
Sure.

00:57:44.394 --> 00:57:48.114
And so I've, I'm inclusive in letting whoever, you know.

00:57:48.204 --> 00:57:48.625
Sure.

00:57:48.744 --> 00:57:51.445
Um, I do believe I'm Christian and I believe in God.

00:57:51.474 --> 00:57:53.724
And, um, so I bring that peace into it.

00:57:53.844 --> 00:57:53.934
Okay.

00:57:54.144 --> 00:57:59.664
Um, but I also bring into the energetics of it and like, you know, what serves, you know, all of us.

00:57:59.724 --> 00:57:59.815
Right.

00:57:59.815 --> 00:57:59.905
Right.

00:57:59.905 --> 00:58:01.465
And so, um.

00:58:01.989 --> 00:58:02.289
Yeah.

00:58:02.289 --> 00:58:02.739
I, I, yeah.

00:58:02.739 --> 00:58:04.175
Not to put you on the spot, I was No, no.

00:58:04.175 --> 00:58:05.739
I was just kind of curious how you Yeah.

00:58:05.739 --> 00:58:06.880
So IED it all reconcile

00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:16.030
that like, like, definitely like the Secret Book, for example, is something that's definitely in, in contention with, um, a fair bit of scripture Yeah.

00:58:16.030 --> 00:58:16.570
And stuff.

00:58:16.570 --> 00:58:19.480
And like, I was even gonna challenge you on that.

00:58:19.485 --> 00:58:19.494
Yeah.

00:58:19.869 --> 00:58:25.630
Like, everything I need to know about me is within me kind of, well, like, I think, but what I've

00:58:25.630 --> 00:58:27.099
been able to access, right.

00:58:27.105 --> 00:58:27.155
Fair.

00:58:27.190 --> 00:58:30.730
Like what have I've been able to access is instead of going outside

00:58:30.789 --> 00:58:31.059
Yeah.

00:58:31.420 --> 00:58:34.210
Of me, of going like, I need to go to this person.

00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:34.780
Right.

00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:38.715
I'm either going to God source and self.

00:58:38.715 --> 00:58:38.954
Yeah.

00:58:39.130 --> 00:58:39.460
Right.

00:58:39.460 --> 00:58:39.880
That's fair.

00:58:40.449 --> 00:58:42.195
And not going out to other people, and I should that.

00:58:42.195 --> 00:58:44.559
Well, I think those thoughts like the, the unexamined life,

00:58:44.559 --> 00:58:44.800
right?

00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:49.449
Like, if you examine yourself with intention, you'll discover much.

00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:49.929
Right.

00:58:49.929 --> 00:58:50.914
And even though it's not a, I think sometimes,

00:58:51.025 --> 00:58:57.610
like we were, I was, I was trained to be like, okay, well if I don't have the answers, I need to go outside myself for the answers.

00:58:57.610 --> 00:58:58.815
Find somebody that does Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:59.050 --> 00:59:03.429
And instead of going in, and there's still gonna be times that I, I still, I'm always gonna have a coach.

00:59:03.429 --> 00:59:04.900
I'm always gonna have a mentor.

00:59:04.900 --> 00:59:05.980
I'm always gonna have, right.

00:59:06.190 --> 00:59:06.369
Yeah.

00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:08.409
You know, that has walked the walk with me.

00:59:08.829 --> 00:59:20.139
But meaning like really getting to that place of just clarity within myself of like, you know, going within and you can, when I channel, I call in God spirit.

00:59:20.514 --> 00:59:22.525
Angels that are here to help support me

00:59:22.530 --> 00:59:22.730
Yeah.

00:59:23.155 --> 00:59:24.085
And guide me.

00:59:24.204 --> 00:59:24.625
Right.

00:59:24.630 --> 00:59:24.809
Fair.

00:59:25.110 --> 00:59:30.894
And so I only, I put a, I put a white light around me and let the, the vibration of love and light to come through.

00:59:31.255 --> 00:59:52.735
Well, I think that's where that element of, um, like, people resist people, whether they're fighting, working their way through trauma or trying to save their marriage, or not really trying to save their marriage, or like, they'll resist if they don't really want to, you know, people kind of do what they actually want to do.

00:59:53.364 --> 01:00:08.454
Um, and so if you can help them want to do the things that are good for them, or you want to do the things that are good for you, that are aligned with your, your energy that feed you, um, and believing that you can indeed do them.

01:00:09.085 --> 01:00:09.175
Yeah.

01:00:09.175 --> 01:00:09.355
Right.

01:00:09.355 --> 01:00:17.155
It's kind of that believing is a, is a bit of a combination of want and, and something beyond belief.

01:00:17.155 --> 01:00:18.210
Something different than belief.

01:00:18.389 --> 01:00:21.250
But, uh, I guess it is just ultimately belief, like mm-hmm.

01:00:21.329 --> 01:00:26.394
You gotta want it and believe it can be true in some ways to really pursue,

01:00:26.454 --> 01:00:26.784
yeah.

01:00:26.784 --> 01:00:29.244
And I always, I always looked for the evidence, right.

01:00:29.664 --> 01:00:34.164
So it, the, the staying, the saying is, you gotta believe it before you see it.

01:00:34.164 --> 01:00:34.644
Yeah.

01:00:35.304 --> 01:00:37.255
And I think we wanna see it before we believe it.

01:00:37.255 --> 01:00:37.644
Yeah.

01:00:38.215 --> 01:00:44.304
And so that's been a big one for me is like, we've gotta be like, you've, like, um, walking in faith.

01:00:44.784 --> 01:00:44.844
Yeah.

01:00:44.844 --> 01:00:48.474
There's a, there's a, there's a great, uh, uh.

01:00:48.894 --> 01:00:49.525
Oh my goodness.

01:00:49.554 --> 01:00:52.405
It's called, uh, upward.

01:00:52.735 --> 01:00:54.474
I think it was called Upward Bound Or Upward.

01:00:54.715 --> 01:00:55.375
It was a movie.

01:00:55.525 --> 01:00:55.554
Okay.

01:00:55.554 --> 01:00:56.635
It was character.

01:00:56.755 --> 01:00:58.164
And there's a scene in it.

01:00:58.914 --> 01:00:59.994
You guys can Google this.

01:01:00.219 --> 01:01:08.605
And, and it's, um, he's walking across Now, of course, he has a magic wand and he's like casting spells and stuff like that, but he, it's a, it's a cartoon.

01:01:08.605 --> 01:01:09.985
It's a pixel or movie or whatever.

01:01:10.375 --> 01:01:10.405
Okay.

01:01:10.405 --> 01:01:14.304
And so he is walking across this bridge, and when the bridge is, the Draw bridge is on the other side.

01:01:14.514 --> 01:01:14.545
Okay.

01:01:14.545 --> 01:01:16.675
And they can't get the broad draw bridge.

01:01:16.735 --> 01:01:17.304
It's open down.

01:01:17.309 --> 01:01:17.530
Yeah.

01:01:17.534 --> 01:01:17.635
Yeah.

01:01:17.635 --> 01:01:18.414
So it's open.

01:01:18.594 --> 01:01:26.155
And so he like casts a spell and he says, okay, now you can walk across this and you have to, but you just have to believe.

01:01:26.635 --> 01:01:27.324
You have to believe you.

01:01:27.449 --> 01:01:27.690
Sure.

01:01:27.789 --> 01:01:29.454
So he, at first he was like, there's no way.

01:01:29.454 --> 01:01:32.514
So he like, takes a step and he like, falls.

01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:32.650
Yeah.

01:01:32.655 --> 01:01:32.755
Yeah.

01:01:32.755 --> 01:01:33.925
And he like, catches himself.

01:01:33.925 --> 01:01:36.894
And then he's like, he's like, you gotta believe, you gotta believe.

01:01:36.894 --> 01:01:38.454
It's such a powerful little segment.

01:01:38.994 --> 01:01:40.855
And so then he's like, okay, so starts, well it's really

01:01:40.855 --> 01:01:42.324
Jesus and the disciples in the boat.

01:01:42.324 --> 01:01:42.625
Right.

01:01:42.684 --> 01:01:42.925
Right.

01:01:43.344 --> 01:01:49.675
And so he starts to walk, he starts to walk across, and he's like, at first, not sure, but he's believing that he can do it.

01:01:50.215 --> 01:01:52.045
And then he's walking successfully.

01:01:52.255 --> 01:01:56.155
Well, the rope around him starts to loosen and it falls off.

01:01:56.335 --> 01:01:58.585
And he yells back, you still got me right.

01:01:58.914 --> 01:02:00.985
And he's, and the friend's like, yep.

01:02:01.909 --> 01:02:03.594
As he's doing a whole rope in his

01:02:03.594 --> 01:02:03.925
hand.

01:02:04.014 --> 01:02:11.570
And then he starts to get a little cocky and he starts to like do, he's like doing these dance moves, you know, and then he gets to the very, very end.

01:02:12.610 --> 01:02:13.750
He looks back.

01:02:13.809 --> 01:02:14.019
Yeah.

01:02:14.025 --> 01:02:14.710
And he realizes like

01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:15.610
Wiley Coyote,

01:02:16.389 --> 01:02:17.110
there's no rope

01:02:17.170 --> 01:02:18.039
ran off the cliff.

01:02:18.219 --> 01:02:19.000
There's no rope.

01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:22.269
And there's like, and so he like, he's like, ah.

01:02:22.300 --> 01:02:23.559
And he like loses his faith.

01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:24.010
Yeah.

01:02:24.010 --> 01:02:24.940
He loses his belief.

01:02:24.969 --> 01:02:25.150
Yeah.

01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:29.739
And then, but thankfully he was close enough to the, to the, uh, cliff that he was able to reach on.

01:02:29.769 --> 01:02:30.070
Right.

01:02:30.369 --> 01:02:40.840
And I just, and I, for, I think there's a lot of people right now just that are walking this faith of this blind faith of, uh, of what is happening on the planet.

01:02:41.019 --> 01:02:41.260
Right.

01:02:41.260 --> 01:02:48.159
Because there's like, I, I've said this before that I think all systems have to come down in order for new growth to happen.

01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:48.849
Right.

01:02:48.849 --> 01:02:50.655
And so it feels very case, I mean,$37

01:02:50.655 --> 01:02:55.269
trillion debt ball is, uh, potentially sufficient to wreck a system.

01:02:56.050 --> 01:02:56.800
I mean, all of it.

01:02:56.800 --> 01:02:57.130
Right?

01:02:57.130 --> 01:02:57.139
Right.

01:02:57.139 --> 01:02:58.239
Not even just that like Right.

01:02:58.239 --> 01:02:58.914
Like all, all systems.

01:02:58.914 --> 01:02:59.559
Well, it wouldn't just be our

01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:00.550
systems that wrecked.

01:03:00.550 --> 01:03:00.789
Yeah.

01:03:00.789 --> 01:03:02.019
I would've wreck a lot of systems.

01:03:02.019 --> 01:03:02.710
All systems, right?

01:03:02.710 --> 01:03:02.769
Yeah.

01:03:02.769 --> 01:03:02.920
Yeah.

01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:03.159
Yeah.

01:03:03.550 --> 01:03:06.849
Thankfully we've got a lot of nice roads and houses and stuff to rebuild upon.

01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:07.179
Right.

01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:08.860
Not in Colorado so much.

01:03:09.159 --> 01:03:10.090
Uh, the roads part.

01:03:10.094 --> 01:03:10.594
I was, I was gonna say,

01:03:10.875 --> 01:03:11.835
I was gonna say, where are you at?

01:03:12.735 --> 01:03:14.409
We just came back from Orange County.

01:03:14.409 --> 01:03:15.954
We spent a few days in Oh my goodness.

01:03:15.954 --> 01:03:16.114
Yeah.

01:03:16.114 --> 01:03:17.440
In Cabo and then in Orange County.

01:03:17.980 --> 01:03:23.139
And the freaking highway system in California is so amazing.

01:03:23.139 --> 01:03:23.199
Yeah.

01:03:23.980 --> 01:03:24.429
Like.

01:03:25.090 --> 01:03:25.750
Even the,

01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:32.860
well, especially in Orange County, well, let's be real, but I mean, it's like, it's not all of California, like that racetrack between all these

01:03:32.860 --> 01:03:35.829
little towns, mission Viejo and San Clemente and stuff.

01:03:35.860 --> 01:03:40.690
But even in la the roads are in really good shape for being not far from the ocean.

01:03:40.690 --> 01:03:44.110
You know, there's seven lanes wide and mostly not too many potholes.

01:03:44.829 --> 01:03:46.599
Um, pretty remarkable.

01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:47.050
Yeah.

01:03:47.139 --> 01:03:52.599
Um, and then here we got, you know, a two and a half lane highway coming from our largest city to our third largest city.

01:03:53.409 --> 01:03:54.280
Uh, that's how it goes.

01:03:55.570 --> 01:03:55.840
That's how it is.

01:03:55.840 --> 01:04:02.590
But I do think that like the, as we are evolving, I do think the systems have to come down.

01:04:02.619 --> 01:04:04.389
And so that's what we're kind of witnessing.

01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:21.940
And as, as people are seeing this and experiencing this, like, I think that people are tapping back into their, like their infinite knowing and their infinite, um, connection to, um, their higher selves, their source, their, um, higher power in order for them to be like, okay, this is my path forward.

01:04:22.329 --> 01:04:24.519
What do you think we're evolving to become?

01:04:25.449 --> 01:04:28.074
I hope half ninja and half mermaids.

01:04:29.434 --> 01:04:31.809
I dunno where the mermaid utility would come in.

01:04:31.914 --> 01:04:32.434
I know, I'm just kidding.

01:04:33.010 --> 01:04:34.300
I joke that I'm always half mer.

01:04:34.514 --> 01:04:36.864
I, I always tell people, when people ask me like, what, who are you?

01:04:36.864 --> 01:04:37.269
What are you doing?

01:04:37.269 --> 01:04:40.659
And I'm like, I'm half ninja, half New Mermaid because I love the water.

01:04:40.690 --> 01:04:42.579
But, um, yeah, I don't know.

01:04:42.579 --> 01:04:44.500
Like, I think that, um.

01:04:44.980 --> 01:04:50.800
Some speculate that we're kind of birthing a, a digital or a hybrid species.

01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:56.739
I hope that's, that will be like integrated with computers so we can you wear newer links or be born with them or something.

01:04:56.769 --> 01:04:57.730
That terrifies me.

01:04:57.730 --> 01:04:58.360
Actually,

01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:02.500
I've also have you listened to, to the telepathy types.

01:05:02.739 --> 01:05:03.099
Huh?

01:05:03.909 --> 01:05:04.960
They're pretty fascinating.

01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:11.079
It's a podcast series that examines autistic children's ability to communicate.

01:05:11.230 --> 01:05:11.559
Oh yes.

01:05:11.590 --> 01:05:32.019
Not just in from one room to the other, but also like to go and meet on the hill with other autistic kids from Florida and Tennessee and Ohio and Montana and like, have a spiritual conscious conversational connection with other nonverbal artists or autistics.

01:05:32.025 --> 01:05:32.224
I, I,

01:05:32.230 --> 01:05:37.989
I, I've heard, I haven't watched that, but I've heard that like autistic children are coming in to teach us.

01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:41.320
They're like, um, there's so many gifts that they have to teach us.

01:05:41.380 --> 01:05:41.619
Yeah.

01:05:42.369 --> 01:05:45.099
Um, and I, I wouldn't like, I would agree with that 100%.

01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:45.429
Yeah.

01:05:45.460 --> 01:05:45.639
When

01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:48.130
you have a road trip sometime throw that series on.

01:05:48.130 --> 01:05:53.710
There's probably, there's like the, the first real juicy stuff is maybe 15, 30 minute episodes or something.

01:05:53.710 --> 01:05:57.250
So it's quite time consuming, but it's really investigative reporting.

01:05:57.489 --> 01:05:57.940
Love it.

01:05:58.030 --> 01:06:00.820
Of all these, like, can't believe this story.

01:06:00.820 --> 01:06:04.329
It, you can't really test for it properly, but here's the evidence that we.

01:06:04.929 --> 01:06:14.440
Found that this kid can literally read his mother's mind and mark the number that his mom is thinking about in the next room over, or other things.

01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:16.389
Much more complex than that.

01:06:16.394 --> 01:06:16.405
Yeah.

01:06:16.405 --> 01:06:27.969
And I wonder, is that a, is that a latent, um, consciousness that is reemerging in that population because of whatever factors?

01:06:27.969 --> 01:06:38.679
Or is that a, an evolutionary, like imagine if you and I didn't have to use our mouth flaps, I mean, to communicate, if we could just be like, I could tell you jokes and you'd be all of a sudden laughing for no reason.

01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:40.210
People are like, ah, why is she laughing?

01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:40.420
Oh.

01:06:40.420 --> 01:06:43.809
'cause he ized or made her laugh again.

01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:46.570
But we all have the capacity to do that now.

01:06:47.349 --> 01:06:47.559
Yeah.

01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:49.300
To do telepathy, right?

01:06:49.780 --> 01:06:49.960
I don't know.

01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:52.630
My daughter, my daughter was a, it was interesting, like a couple.

01:06:52.780 --> 01:07:00.369
So, um, years ago, my, um, my, well, my, I've had such amazing experiences with my daughter.

01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:05.650
Like I, she's here to train me and, and like open up to like, wow possibilities.

01:07:05.739 --> 01:07:10.510
And, uh, when she was younger, um, she would tell me the most interesting things.

01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:10.900
Okay.

01:07:10.960 --> 01:07:14.619
And, uh, she would wanna come over and hold me and rock me.

01:07:15.340 --> 01:07:31.960
And she would say, um, she would rock me and she'd say, I remember when, I remember when, and so, and further, like, you know, having people explain some stuff when I, so according to this lady that I was her mom in three lifetimes.

01:07:32.905 --> 01:07:35.635
I was her mom the first lifetime in this lifetime.

01:07:35.815 --> 01:07:44.094
And there's been some interesting stories when she was younger, like up until at age six, that she would say, and I would document them and write it down because like they're the craziest stories.

01:07:44.215 --> 01:07:44.335
Yeah.

01:07:44.724 --> 01:07:54.054
And so, um, for kids that are really, really closer to the source, you can just ask them, you know, open questions or especially when they start to doze off to sleeve.

01:07:54.085 --> 01:07:54.175
Yeah.

01:07:54.505 --> 01:07:55.585
Really fascinating stuff.

01:07:55.585 --> 01:08:03.114
But one time, um, she was, um, we, oh, uh, um, I remember what it was.

01:08:03.175 --> 01:08:05.860
Um, but I've, well I've had so many different experiences.

01:08:05.969 --> 01:08:06.260
Yeah.

01:08:06.260 --> 01:08:07.340
Maybe a personal life, different experiences.

01:08:08.244 --> 01:08:16.765
Um, one of the experiences I had was, um, with her, she, um, our dog had passed away like six months prior.

01:08:16.824 --> 01:08:17.095
Okay.

01:08:17.125 --> 01:08:19.045
And she was only two and a half when he passed.

01:08:19.074 --> 01:08:19.104
Okay.

01:08:19.524 --> 01:08:20.005
Or, sorry.

01:08:20.335 --> 01:08:20.515
Yeah.

01:08:20.515 --> 01:08:21.595
She was two and a half when he passed.

01:08:21.715 --> 01:08:23.034
She was three when this happened.

01:08:23.154 --> 01:08:23.244
Okay.

01:08:23.935 --> 01:08:24.460
And, um.

01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:26.770
She had a seizure.

01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:28.210
Um, she was down with me.

01:08:28.210 --> 01:08:33.430
She had a fever seizure, which is just from a fever, which apparently kids have'em all the time.

01:08:33.460 --> 01:08:33.760
Wow.

01:08:33.789 --> 01:08:34.960
But it's very scary.

01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:35.385
It's good to help a mom.

01:08:35.385 --> 01:08:35.664
Yeah.

01:08:35.670 --> 01:08:35.859
Yeah.

01:08:35.890 --> 01:08:37.060
Terrifying as a mom.

01:08:37.479 --> 01:08:41.470
And she was laying there having this seizure and I'm like, what is happening?

01:08:41.470 --> 01:08:41.800
Right.

01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:47.560
And then so we, we called the ambulance and they took her in and it was funny'cause like they showed up and they're like, well, what's going on?

01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:51.760
And I'm like, you know, she has a, she had a, she was sick and we had her on medicine.

01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:54.909
And, and uh, they're like, oh, this is, this is a fever seizure.

01:08:54.909 --> 01:08:56.020
And I'm like, oh, okay.

01:08:56.020 --> 01:08:59.109
Well it sounded like I was just calling'cause she like scraped her knee out.

01:08:59.114 --> 01:08:59.265
Yeah.

01:08:59.324 --> 01:08:59.824
It was terrifying.

01:08:59.824 --> 01:09:00.345
What do we do about it?

01:09:01.029 --> 01:09:01.239
Yeah.

01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:03.399
Anyway, so they just, it was fine.

01:09:03.430 --> 01:09:07.720
Um, but the next morning she woke up and she's like, um, she goes, where's Sophia?

01:09:07.720 --> 01:09:07.779
Hmm?

01:09:08.289 --> 01:09:09.399
And I said, what do you mean?

01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:13.390
And she said, well, Sophia was here and that was her dog's name.

01:09:13.420 --> 01:09:13.569
Mm-hmm.

01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:19.750
And so at two and a half, she doesn't have any like cellular, she has cellular memory, but she didn't actually have physical memory.

01:09:19.750 --> 01:09:21.579
Her memory didn't come in until one H three.

01:09:21.579 --> 01:09:23.170
And we, we know the day that it happened.

01:09:23.170 --> 01:09:24.609
'cause I was like, oh, she has memory.

01:09:25.060 --> 01:09:27.579
Um, but it was really fascinating.

01:09:27.609 --> 01:09:37.029
And she had, uh, so she had an experience that she goes, well, Sophia was on her chest and she wanted to, and she's like, well mom, she wanted me to tell you that she's okay.

01:09:37.899 --> 01:09:39.369
Because I was devastated when our dog died.

01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:41.050
Well,'cause all dogs go to heaven, so I know, right?

01:09:41.050 --> 01:09:41.500
Of course.

01:09:41.500 --> 01:09:44.125
And, uh, but she's like, she smiled and said she was okay.

01:09:44.305 --> 01:09:45.640
And I was like, oh my god.

01:09:46.300 --> 01:09:46.659
You know?

01:09:46.989 --> 01:09:48.340
Um, and she's three years old, right?

01:09:48.340 --> 01:09:50.439
And she had, um, some different experiences.

01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:58.810
We had another experience where she was having all these headaches and, um, I was seeing this energy doctor actually up in Greeley, and I said, well, I'm gonna go see the Synergy doctor.

01:09:58.810 --> 01:10:01.630
And I said, can you just tell me what your headaches are like so I can tell him?

01:10:01.810 --> 01:10:06.069
And she goes, ah, they're just, she's like, you talk too much on the phone.

01:10:06.699 --> 01:10:07.479
And I go, what do you mean?

01:10:07.479 --> 01:10:11.619
She goes, she was at school and she was hearing every one of my conversations.

01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:11.949
Oh.

01:10:12.579 --> 01:10:14.560
And so we're like 15 miles away from each other.

01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:14.710
She was

01:10:14.765 --> 01:10:18.130
like distracting her and annoying her ability to listen at school.

01:10:18.250 --> 01:10:18.970
And she says

01:10:18.970 --> 01:10:21.760
to me, she's like, mom, you talked to this person and you talk.

01:10:21.789 --> 01:10:23.500
And she knew the conversations.

01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:23.649
Huh.

01:10:23.649 --> 01:10:23.710
Wow.

01:10:23.710 --> 01:10:26.710
Even though we're like, and so the tele going back to the telepathy.

01:10:26.710 --> 01:10:27.925
Like, I've had some, that's why, you know,

01:10:27.930 --> 01:10:28.359
that's real.

01:10:28.630 --> 01:10:29.079
Yeah.

01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:31.810
And it was like, I was like, there's no, there's no way she could know it.

01:10:31.810 --> 01:10:37.300
She's in school, I'm in, you know, I'm 30, I'm 30 miles away, or 30 minutes away from her.

01:10:37.300 --> 01:10:38.045
So, anyways, it was really fast.

01:10:38.050 --> 01:10:38.229
I have

01:10:38.229 --> 01:10:40.840
to, uh, I have to tap out because I'm, I have to pee.

01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:42.699
So we're gonna take a short break.

01:11:32.470 --> 01:11:33.699
And we are back.

01:11:35.380 --> 01:11:38.800
We jumped off, uh, speculating about the evolution of humans.

01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:40.220
Uh, right.

01:11:40.645 --> 01:11:47.154
The opportunities to, it'll really decrease, um, probably would decrease social media a lot and stuff.

01:11:47.154 --> 01:11:50.215
If we could just tele empathize with everybody we wanted to.

01:11:50.220 --> 01:11:50.340
I,

01:11:50.425 --> 01:11:52.104
I think social media's gonna go away.

01:11:52.225 --> 01:11:52.699
You think so?

01:11:52.899 --> 01:11:53.039
I think so.

01:11:53.484 --> 01:11:53.814
How so?

01:11:54.145 --> 01:11:56.064
I just, I just don't think it's, it just won't be worthwhile

01:11:56.064 --> 01:11:56.994
in the long run.

01:11:57.534 --> 01:11:57.625
Mm-hmm.

01:11:57.864 --> 01:12:02.515
Well, it certainly hasn't, it's nefarious created a social Well, it's, I think, I

01:12:02.515 --> 01:12:04.824
feel like, um, have you ever watched that social experiment?

01:12:04.854 --> 01:12:08.484
Yeah, I think that like it talks about, oh, the social dilemma.

01:12:08.484 --> 01:12:08.604
Oh, the social dilemma, yeah.

01:12:08.619 --> 01:12:08.859
Yeah.

01:12:09.324 --> 01:12:23.784
Like, I do think it, like, has like, and you know, it's been interesting because over, you know, I was growing my social media and then about a year ago, maybe not quite a year ago, I got hacked and I lost, like all my accounts on Facebook.

01:12:23.784 --> 01:12:24.715
I had five accounts.

01:12:24.744 --> 01:12:25.015
Okay.

01:12:25.015 --> 01:12:26.604
So I had a two business.

01:12:27.715 --> 01:12:33.564
A personal and then two groups gone overnight, done, can't get'em back, really done.

01:12:33.925 --> 01:12:38.574
And I just, and I would've normally, I would've been devastated by that and I was like, almost like at peace.

01:12:38.604 --> 01:12:38.814
Yeah.

01:12:39.475 --> 01:12:41.100
Thank God I don't have to mess with that anymore.

01:12:41.359 --> 01:12:41.579
So

01:12:41.935 --> 01:12:44.755
I still have an account, but I think I have like maybe Interesting.

01:12:44.755 --> 01:12:45.055
Yeah.

01:12:45.114 --> 01:12:46.164
It's naturally grown.

01:12:46.170 --> 01:12:46.300
Yeah.

01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:49.060
But like, I don't, I'm not focusing on it just because I'm my, so if people

01:12:49.060 --> 01:12:51.864
wanna check out your stuff, do they go like to the YouTube?

01:12:51.864 --> 01:12:52.420
YouTube to YouTube or website?

01:12:52.420 --> 01:12:53.064
They can go to my website.

01:12:53.664 --> 01:12:54.085
To your website

01:12:54.085 --> 01:12:54.095
Website.

01:12:54.095 --> 01:12:54.125
Talking with Terry?

01:12:54.125 --> 01:12:54.220
Yeah.

01:12:54.225 --> 01:12:55.045
Talking with terry.com.

01:12:55.045 --> 01:12:56.755
That's TER i.com.

01:12:57.055 --> 01:12:58.225
Uh, they can go to my website.

01:12:58.225 --> 01:13:02.425
I do, I am on social, um, Instagram, YouTube.

01:13:02.545 --> 01:13:02.814
Yeah.

01:13:03.234 --> 01:13:05.604
Um, I am on Facebook with like my five friends.

01:13:06.204 --> 01:13:06.595
I'm just kidding.

01:13:06.595 --> 01:13:06.819
That's fair.

01:13:07.194 --> 01:13:08.425
But it's not, it's not a focus.

01:13:08.425 --> 01:13:09.835
It's not your driver anymore.

01:13:10.375 --> 01:13:10.734
Yeah.

01:13:10.734 --> 01:13:10.744
Yeah.

01:13:10.744 --> 01:13:11.060
That's fair.

01:13:11.119 --> 01:13:11.899
So yeah.

01:13:11.965 --> 01:13:12.625
Well, I hope so.

01:13:12.625 --> 01:13:26.244
I would say honestly, because it has like, until they start working on algorithms that allow people to hear stuff that doesn't, um, like make them crazier Yeah.

01:13:26.244 --> 01:13:27.685
And more isolated from each other.

01:13:27.774 --> 01:13:28.164
Yeah.

01:13:28.404 --> 01:13:35.185
Um, it's certainly been a observable fact that, you know, with the Charlie Kirk assassination is a good example.

01:13:35.185 --> 01:13:35.244
Yeah.

01:13:35.244 --> 01:13:42.295
Like people either thought he was a hero and a martyr, or they thought he was a right wing fascist.

01:13:42.354 --> 01:13:42.534
Racist.

01:13:43.194 --> 01:13:44.005
Very decisive.

01:13:44.034 --> 01:13:45.055
Yeah, very decisive.

01:13:45.055 --> 01:13:45.234
Right?

01:13:45.234 --> 01:13:47.274
Based on their algorithms for the most part.

01:13:47.274 --> 01:13:49.824
Yeah, it's absolutely, like, it's terrifying.

01:13:49.824 --> 01:13:56.274
Especially when it comes to like, you know, um, politics or like high, you know, like, it's just, it's amazing.

01:13:56.274 --> 01:13:59.755
Like what social media like directs you into or whatnot, or Totally.

01:13:59.755 --> 01:14:07.404
They were showing one time I was looking at this, um, um, one page and they said, if you're this party, you're gonna see it this way.

01:14:07.435 --> 01:14:08.994
And if you're this party, you're gonna see it this way.

01:14:08.994 --> 01:14:10.015
And I was like, wow.

01:14:10.164 --> 01:14:11.755
And as soon as I seen that, I was like, whoa.

01:14:11.784 --> 01:14:11.994
Yeah,

01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:13.060
no, that's, uh,

01:14:13.319 --> 01:14:14.784
but it directs you into one.

01:14:14.784 --> 01:14:15.864
Like, I don't know.

01:14:15.869 --> 01:14:16.020
Yeah.

01:14:16.255 --> 01:14:23.935
I just, I feel like if we could go back to no judgment, discernment, right.

01:14:23.935 --> 01:14:26.545
And love, like we could cure the planet.

01:14:27.145 --> 01:14:27.505
Yeah.

01:14:27.744 --> 01:14:30.354
I mean those, that would go quite a ways.

01:14:30.354 --> 01:14:32.215
I mean, discernment is the hard part, right?

01:14:32.215 --> 01:14:32.425
Like

01:14:32.425 --> 01:14:32.694
discernment.

01:14:32.694 --> 01:14:32.935
Yeah.

01:14:32.935 --> 01:14:35.005
Like,'cause what is so I,

01:14:35.185 --> 01:14:42.385
well, Solomon asked for discernment, uh, and then he still decided he needed a thousand or 300 wives and a thousand concubines.

01:14:42.390 --> 01:14:42.619
That's true.

01:14:42.625 --> 01:14:43.734
And he only had three kids.

01:14:43.795 --> 01:14:44.034
That's true.

01:14:44.034 --> 01:14:46.194
Like, that's the worst, that's the most pathetic.

01:14:46.194 --> 01:14:53.904
Uh, like if you got 300 wives and a thousand combines and con concubines and you only ended up with three, or maybe it was seven kids or something.

01:14:53.904 --> 01:14:54.385
Come on, dude.

01:14:54.414 --> 01:14:54.685
Yeah.

01:14:54.954 --> 01:14:55.524
Or maybe they shouldn't.

01:14:55.555 --> 01:14:55.914
I dunno.

01:14:55.914 --> 01:14:56.125
But I

01:14:56.125 --> 01:14:57.685
just think that I've, I don't know.

01:14:57.685 --> 01:15:07.465
I just, I think that, um, you know, in, in my company and what I've, I've, I've always kind of just like followed the energy in certain things.

01:15:07.465 --> 01:15:07.675
Yeah.

01:15:08.034 --> 01:15:08.574
And like.

01:15:09.085 --> 01:15:12.114
You know, getting to the place where you can say yes to what means yes and no to what means no.

01:15:12.114 --> 01:15:28.119
And just being kind and sending love and like, I don't know, I just, I think there's a, there's a place for, um, using discernment in this and like, you're receiving information and then without jumping to conclusions or outcomes of it, of just saying, okay.

01:15:28.125 --> 01:15:31.225
'cause I love to see, uh, plant seeds with people

01:15:31.524 --> 01:15:31.555
Okay.

01:15:31.734 --> 01:15:46.135
Of just like planting seeds of, you know, maybe they're in a, in a funk or just planting a seed and being like, oh, I'm cur and like coming from a place of curiosity of like, you know, what would this look like or what would this, and then like having them do their work right.

01:15:46.135 --> 01:15:48.595
And having their, do their research or whatever it is.

01:15:49.074 --> 01:15:52.824
Um, just even like switching a perspective right?

01:15:53.274 --> 01:15:55.255
And coming from a place of love and kindness.

01:15:55.375 --> 01:15:55.465
Mm-hmm.

01:15:56.215 --> 01:15:58.314
Uh, just'cause I just think there's so much like.

01:15:58.914 --> 01:16:05.395
Just hate, like unnecessary hate, just because we can't like be like, okay, you, you can have an opinion and I can have an opinion.

01:16:05.425 --> 01:16:07.470
And we don't have to agree with all those on those opinions.

01:16:07.675 --> 01:16:08.005
I'm sure

01:16:08.005 --> 01:16:10.074
we wouldn't on everything, you know, like just, but like,

01:16:10.104 --> 01:16:10.704
but like, okay.

01:16:10.704 --> 01:16:12.085
I, I value your opinion.

01:16:12.085 --> 01:16:13.060
'cause you have Yeah.

01:16:13.064 --> 01:16:24.055
You have, you have mad talent and you are a great human being and you're gonna see things as differently in my experience because we all have, like, I, I joke that we have all these, um, um, invisible goggles on

01:16:24.085 --> 01:16:24.385
Yeah.

01:16:24.564 --> 01:16:25.975
And your visible goggles.

01:16:25.975 --> 01:16:30.024
I can't see them and you can't see mine and mine are gonna say this and yours is gonna say that.

01:16:30.024 --> 01:16:30.324
Right?

01:16:30.329 --> 01:16:30.539
Yeah.

01:16:30.895 --> 01:16:33.925
And just being in a place of like love and kindness.

01:16:33.925 --> 01:16:38.215
And I think if we can come to the table and, I mean, you have a create, you created a think tank, right?

01:16:38.274 --> 01:16:44.664
And what you're doing, like the master behind, I mean the, the brilliance behind it is like you bringing all these people's different ideas in

01:16:44.755 --> 01:16:44.935
Yeah.

01:16:45.234 --> 01:16:50.845
And then deciphering to be like, oh, that makes sense, or that makes, or that's brilliant because you know more.

01:16:50.904 --> 01:16:51.085
Yeah.

01:16:51.085 --> 01:16:51.625
I'm not even the

01:16:51.625 --> 01:16:52.435
decider of that.

01:16:52.500 --> 01:16:54.715
I am just the, the talent spotter.

01:16:54.774 --> 01:16:55.194
Yeah.

01:16:55.284 --> 01:16:55.435
Really.

01:16:55.435 --> 01:16:55.795
Exactly.

01:16:55.854 --> 01:16:56.185
Right.

01:16:56.185 --> 01:16:56.664
And I think

01:16:56.664 --> 01:16:58.435
that's brilliant to like be able to brilliant.

01:16:58.494 --> 01:17:06.204
Bring in all these and like, and that's the brilliance of having different opinions and different experiences and different, and how do we leverage that?

01:17:06.234 --> 01:17:09.895
So I think that's your superpower is leveraging people's differences.

01:17:10.404 --> 01:17:15.835
But being in, in doing it in a way that out of all of that comes greater good.

01:17:15.835 --> 01:17:15.864
Mm.

01:17:16.255 --> 01:17:16.734
Right?

01:17:17.005 --> 01:17:17.814
Isn't that juicy?

01:17:17.814 --> 01:17:21.324
Like, that's like you're pulling, I mean there's into like, there's like, but like that's all.

01:17:21.939 --> 01:17:24.204
But that's a, that's building a community that's building, well,

01:17:24.204 --> 01:17:26.649
that's what like our government should be about.

01:17:26.739 --> 01:17:32.170
Like the, the, the parliamentary system that Great Britain kind of founded.

01:17:33.369 --> 01:17:41.199
There would be hours long actual debates where people would try to persuade each other over this issue or that.

01:17:41.229 --> 01:17:41.319
Yeah.

01:17:41.710 --> 01:17:56.050
And, you know, in our political system now it's like, you know, here's the, the Democratic platform and you best not deviate from it, or you won't be backed on the next reelection season and then you'll be out.

01:17:56.050 --> 01:17:59.020
And there really isn't any actual discussion.

01:17:59.024 --> 01:17:59.284
Mm-hmm.

01:17:59.739 --> 01:18:02.260
You know, there's pontificating and speeches and Yeah.

01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:09.430
Mostly looking for media clips to put out there on the social media and get your base even more hateful of the other side or whatever.

01:18:09.579 --> 01:18:11.050
And how much of that is real, right.

01:18:11.050 --> 01:18:13.164
Like, how much of that has been talked and how much of that been?

01:18:13.170 --> 01:18:14.800
Well even, you know, even this,

01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:24.909
uh, most recent, you know, the government shutdown and then the Democrats defecting, quote unquote defecting to get the, the shutdown finished.

01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:32.739
Well, really in, in my perception, it was we, we had our election issue that we wanted.

01:18:32.739 --> 01:18:35.199
We got the results that we wanted from the election.

01:18:35.229 --> 01:18:38.739
We don't have any leverage to actually force this.

01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:39.189
Yeah.

01:18:39.250 --> 01:18:43.029
Nor do the Republicans wanna set of precedence for giving the terrorists

01:18:43.300 --> 01:18:43.689
Yeah.

01:18:43.930 --> 01:18:45.489
Under a hostage situation.

01:18:45.670 --> 01:18:46.000
Right.

01:18:46.060 --> 01:18:49.569
And so, okay, now you can, Schumer was like, okay.

01:18:50.590 --> 01:18:53.680
You other nine senators, you can go ahead and vote.

01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:57.135
I'm gonna stay, you know, good with my base here and Yeah.

01:18:57.140 --> 01:19:02.380
And not, and really protest, but, you know, ultimately the party is saying it's time to move on.

01:19:02.649 --> 01:19:02.890
Yeah.

01:19:02.979 --> 01:19:04.060
At least that's my perception.

01:19:04.095 --> 01:19:04.454
I don't know.

01:19:04.454 --> 01:19:04.534
Yeah.

01:19:04.595 --> 01:19:08.500
You know, I did not get in the weeds of that one, and I was just like, you know what, I'm just gonna hold space over there.

01:19:08.614 --> 01:19:09.295
Like, I, I stopped.

01:19:09.295 --> 01:19:10.335
They're all fuckers for me.

01:19:10.475 --> 01:19:10.975
You, I,

01:19:11.755 --> 01:19:14.414
you know, I've not trying to make anybody seem like the good guys.

01:19:14.414 --> 01:19:14.890
I stopped watching.

01:19:14.890 --> 01:19:17.020
Uh, I, I stopped watching tv, gosh.

01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:19.119
Um, probably like 26 years ago.

01:19:19.149 --> 01:19:19.270
Oh, wow.

01:19:20.020 --> 01:19:21.100
Um, yeah.

01:19:21.100 --> 01:19:25.119
My husband and I, we had a TV in our bedroom and I was, we were getting ready to go to bed.

01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:25.630
No Netflix,

01:19:25.630 --> 01:19:26.500
no movies, nothing.

01:19:26.649 --> 01:19:28.300
Uh, we do have a TV in our room still.

01:19:28.300 --> 01:19:33.520
And we do, we, the intention, the, the compromise was to watch movies, but we still don't, we don't even watch movies.

01:19:33.609 --> 01:19:34.210
We don't even turn it on.

01:19:34.869 --> 01:19:36.880
So I was like, we should just like, take it down'cause we never use it.

01:19:37.239 --> 01:19:44.020
Um, but I was, it was years ago, and I, um, we would work with, in the counseling world, we would work with like high profile cases.

01:19:44.020 --> 01:19:48.710
We would work with either on the media or hyper profile individuals, da da.

01:19:48.729 --> 01:19:50.710
And sometimes these people would be on media.

01:19:51.489 --> 01:19:58.329
And, um, I was get, we were getting ready to bed, go to bed one night, and it's like 10 o'clock and he's watching the 10 o'clock news and all of a sudden my client comes on the, because I was like, ugh.

01:19:59.829 --> 01:20:01.449
I was like, oh my gosh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:20:01.659 --> 01:20:02.140
Can't watch this.

01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:04.899
And I was like, out, and so I just was like, no more news.

01:20:04.899 --> 01:20:06.609
So I stopped watching news then.

01:20:06.609 --> 01:20:10.569
And, you know, I, I, um, I, I lost 10 pounds of negativity too.

01:20:11.619 --> 01:20:11.640
That's good.

01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:12.069
That's good.

01:20:13.300 --> 01:20:18.039
What would you want people to know about like, without.

01:20:19.090 --> 01:20:25.539
Getting deep into study as you have and without, you know, hiring you as their coach or, or whatever.

01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:29.590
Um, what do you want people to know about like that energy element?

01:20:29.590 --> 01:20:33.399
And can they, can, can they help to harness their own energy?

01:20:33.699 --> 01:20:36.369
Do they, do they need to talk it through with people?

01:20:36.369 --> 01:20:43.329
Like what are the practical things that people can do to limit those limiting beliefs to, what were the other four?

01:20:43.539 --> 01:20:43.989
Yeah.

01:20:43.989 --> 01:20:45.274
Uh, self-sabotage was one.

01:20:45.274 --> 01:20:45.880
Self sabotage, the

01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:50.380
limiting beliefs, the, the fear, the doubt, the um, and then the imposter syndrome.

01:20:50.380 --> 01:20:54.369
And there's obviously other ones, but those are kind of the big, the big ones that I've worked with in the past.

01:20:54.369 --> 01:21:05.619
And, um, you know, so I would say this, like, I think if we just took some time to get quiet with ourselves mm-hmm.

01:21:05.621 --> 01:21:11.739
And just give ourselves some space, I think we would be able to have some more awareness around ourselves.

01:21:11.739 --> 01:21:16.914
But we have been so trained and ingrained to like be in the hustle and the bustle and do the data people of action.

01:21:17.164 --> 01:21:17.515
Right.

01:21:17.649 --> 01:21:20.590
And like, we are just like GSD, you know, get shit done.

01:21:20.590 --> 01:21:20.979
Right.

01:21:21.010 --> 01:21:23.289
And, and we don't even take time to like.

01:21:23.890 --> 01:21:25.180
Be present with ourselves.

01:21:25.270 --> 01:21:25.560
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:27.984
And if we could just go a hundred miles an hour, but I don't know where I'm going.

01:21:27.984 --> 01:21:29.319
If we could just create some space.

01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:29.590
Right.

01:21:29.590 --> 01:21:42.760
Like, um, if I don't get up in the morning and I, if I don't do my morning, my morning practice, which is like, I go out and I, you know, I, I, I, I put my feet in the earth and I, I sit and I meditate.

01:21:43.185 --> 01:21:47.470
I, I sit with my, and I get, I get me on track first.

01:21:47.470 --> 01:21:47.560
Mm-hmm.

01:21:48.189 --> 01:21:59.859
I can't do, I can't be, you know, a great employee or a great, a ninja mermaid mom or a ninja mermaid for crying out loud if I haven't taken time for me.

01:21:59.949 --> 01:22:00.279
Right.

01:22:00.430 --> 01:22:02.140
And just really getting centered on that.

01:22:02.140 --> 01:22:03.850
And so, and it doesn't have to take long.

01:22:03.850 --> 01:22:08.529
Like it can be five minutes, just give yourself five minutes to go into a place of quiet or, um.

01:22:09.369 --> 01:22:17.079
Tapping into that and just, I, I just love helping people, like putting their hand on their heart and then just asking the question, um, you know, what am I here to do?

01:22:17.140 --> 01:22:19.449
Like, what, and follow more of that.

01:22:19.454 --> 01:22:19.795
Mm-hmm.

01:22:19.880 --> 01:22:23.199
And also allowing ourselves to find more things that bring us joy.

01:22:23.409 --> 01:22:23.920
It's more about

01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:25.720
listening than talking to yourself in some ways.

01:22:25.720 --> 01:22:25.779
Yeah.

01:22:25.989 --> 01:22:26.170
And I

01:22:26.170 --> 01:22:27.010
think, yes.

01:22:27.069 --> 01:22:31.779
I mean, we're all our worst critic when it comes to like self-sabotage and the limiting beliefs and things like that.

01:22:31.784 --> 01:22:31.835
Sure.

01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:32.439
And so, yes.

01:22:32.739 --> 01:22:36.010
Do you need to have someone help you, support you to help you get back on the track?

01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:38.260
I love getting people like, on the track.

01:22:38.409 --> 01:22:38.470
Yeah.

01:22:38.470 --> 01:22:40.210
Because maybe they didn't even know that there was a track.

01:22:40.239 --> 01:22:41.529
And I was like, Hey, here's the track.

01:22:41.529 --> 01:22:44.439
And then once I get'em on the track, I tell'em, now you fire me.

01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:46.300
And now you get to go and do your own.

01:22:46.390 --> 01:22:46.510
Right.

01:22:46.510 --> 01:22:47.350
Find yourself off track again.

01:22:47.380 --> 01:22:47.949
Exactly.

01:22:47.979 --> 01:22:48.340
Let's talk.

01:22:48.340 --> 01:22:48.819
Exactly.

01:22:48.819 --> 01:22:49.180
Exactly.

01:22:49.180 --> 01:22:50.229
But finding people.

01:22:50.229 --> 01:22:54.250
And so I love helping people get onto the track and then it says, okay here, so.

01:22:54.904 --> 01:23:00.845
I do a lot of work with clearing the blocks that hold us back and then giving them the tools to do it themselves.

01:23:01.175 --> 01:23:06.305
So I always tell people, I hope I'm the last coach you ever have to use because I'm going to teach you the ninja secrets.

01:23:06.305 --> 01:23:10.564
I'm gonna teach you how to do it yourself so that you can do it from now on.

01:23:10.805 --> 01:23:10.984
Yeah.

01:23:11.045 --> 01:23:15.545
And so,'cause I'm like, I'm on this, I'm, I feel like I'm here to help raise a collective consciousness.

01:23:15.604 --> 01:23:19.234
And so if you are doing your zone of genius and you're like loving it Yeah.

01:23:19.234 --> 01:23:26.704
And you're like pouring into people and you're building community and you're doing this, and this person's doing this and this person, and we're all having this ripple effect.

01:23:26.795 --> 01:23:26.824
Oh,

01:23:27.060 --> 01:23:27.180
right.

01:23:27.364 --> 01:23:27.694
Right.

01:23:27.755 --> 01:23:29.324
Like, I wanna go activate the people.

01:23:29.500 --> 01:23:29.939
I mean, that's what

01:23:29.939 --> 01:23:30.875
the economy is.

01:23:31.024 --> 01:23:31.564
Yes.

01:23:31.625 --> 01:23:32.045
Right?

01:23:32.045 --> 01:23:32.795
Like the economy

01:23:32.795 --> 01:23:34.805
isn't like this big outside thing.

01:23:34.805 --> 01:23:38.164
It's the, the aggregated sum of all the stuff that people do.

01:23:38.164 --> 01:23:41.314
And so if you spend your time doing beneficial things for humanity,

01:23:41.944 --> 01:23:42.274
there you go.

01:23:42.305 --> 01:23:43.925
Even if you can't measure it on the gdp.

01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:44.220
Yes,

01:23:44.404 --> 01:23:44.795
yes.

01:23:44.854 --> 01:23:46.925
Uh, it will create a better world.

01:23:47.284 --> 01:23:59.045
And so if I can go help activate, you know, the ones that are ready to like, um, I love, um, in our, um, VIP days, I, I help people write their signature talks so that they can go and spread their message further faster.

01:23:59.135 --> 01:23:59.225
Mm-hmm.

01:23:59.524 --> 01:24:01.385
So that we can be in front of.

01:24:01.734 --> 01:24:05.154
50 people, 500 people, 5,000 people, 5 million people, whatever that looks like.

01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:05.319
Yeah.

01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:05.479
Yeah.

01:24:05.515 --> 01:24:10.199
And if I can help them tap into that and they know what they're called to do mm-hmm.

01:24:10.284 --> 01:24:15.904
And then they're aligned with that, and then they go and help other people and they go help other people, da da da da da.

01:24:15.925 --> 01:24:16.944
It doesn't take long

01:24:17.215 --> 01:24:17.274
Yeah.

01:24:17.335 --> 01:24:18.295
For that to really help.

01:24:18.324 --> 01:24:18.685
Right.

01:24:18.685 --> 01:24:23.904
And so I would love to have one-on-one clients forever and ever, but I know that I got, I got work to do.

01:24:23.935 --> 01:24:30.805
And so if I can help you and then you learn it, and then you can go teach people, I actually tell people, I want you to go teach this to someone tonight.

01:24:31.255 --> 01:24:32.574
'cause I come for that place of abundance.

01:24:32.574 --> 01:24:34.585
And I'm like, there's so much out there.

01:24:34.734 --> 01:24:38.154
And so, but if I have them teach it to somebody else, yeah.

01:24:38.185 --> 01:24:44.425
They will Now it, it rewires their brain because when you're teaching it, you have to embody it.

01:24:44.545 --> 01:24:49.824
And so if I have them go teach it, then they're like, they have to like fully brainwise embody it.

01:24:49.944 --> 01:24:51.715
And so then they can start creating that.

01:24:51.715 --> 01:25:03.545
So, um, I love like that place of like helping people get outta the scarcity because we've been, once the pandemic happened, like it was like almost like a, a blanket of fear went over our planet for many.

01:25:03.545 --> 01:25:03.640
Yeah.

01:25:03.685 --> 01:25:05.935
And a lot of people have not stepped out of that.

01:25:06.354 --> 01:25:06.744
Right.

01:25:06.835 --> 01:25:12.835
And so for sure it's like, you know, re-looking at how we are doing life and.

01:25:13.720 --> 01:25:15.819
It starts with like, what am I here to do?

01:25:15.819 --> 01:25:19.989
What am I, what brings me joy and doing more of that.

01:25:20.260 --> 01:25:24.130
And I'm really disrupting the way we've done work.

01:25:24.550 --> 01:25:28.930
And so for me, I love going and talking like I could talk forever, right?

01:25:29.289 --> 01:25:31.149
And so it's a, it's an activator for me, right?

01:25:31.210 --> 01:25:37.779
And so instead of going and like, um, I'll go sometimes to a coffee shop and just meet random people because it's an activated for me.

01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:38.079
Okay.

01:25:38.079 --> 01:25:43.090
And so then I will ask for my business to grow as I'm doing that.

01:25:43.390 --> 01:25:45.460
And then I will have people call me.

01:25:45.460 --> 01:25:50.409
I will have like, like I will pull in business in a different way

01:25:51.100 --> 01:25:51.279
Okay.

01:25:51.399 --> 01:25:52.750
Because I'm in a higher vibration.

01:25:52.810 --> 01:25:52.960
Mm.

01:25:53.140 --> 01:25:58.479
And so in a higher vibration, I can pull in opportunities that I wouldn't have been able to do, right?

01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:00.069
Like, does that make sense?

01:26:01.569 --> 01:26:02.770
So what you're doing?

01:26:02.949 --> 01:26:03.369
Yes.

01:26:03.369 --> 01:26:09.520
Like if you're in a high vibration, okay, if I'm in, so all of our emotions are on, um, I was

01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:13.659
trying to think through how does that fit in with free will a little bit.

01:26:13.664 --> 01:26:18.279
Like, like if I'm at a higher vibration, I'm gonna pull you in.

01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:21.130
But do you have to decide to be drawn in or, well,

01:26:21.130 --> 01:26:21.220
yeah.

01:26:21.220 --> 01:26:24.069
It's like you, but you would have to, it's like find people, like when you think about how

01:26:24.069 --> 01:26:25.569
does God move people too, right?

01:26:26.439 --> 01:26:29.199
But how do you, like, how do you connect with the people that.

01:26:29.725 --> 01:26:30.715
Ready, willing, able.

01:26:30.744 --> 01:26:30.925
Right.

01:26:30.925 --> 01:26:36.895
Like, so if I'm in my flow, okay, I'm gonna find people that are in the flow with me.

01:26:37.555 --> 01:26:37.585
Okay.

01:26:37.585 --> 01:26:39.954
That will connect with me versus people that are not.

01:26:40.135 --> 01:26:40.524
Right.

01:26:40.675 --> 01:26:42.864
And so, for example, but you're trying to

01:26:42.864 --> 01:26:43.345
fix people.

01:26:43.345 --> 01:26:45.744
So if they're in the flow, they probably don't need you.

01:26:45.744 --> 01:26:46.074
Right.

01:26:47.664 --> 01:26:48.354
As far as what,

01:26:48.520 --> 01:26:51.475
uh, as far as, uh, business success therapy,

01:26:52.164 --> 01:26:54.354
so I don't, I don't do any therapy anymore.

01:26:54.414 --> 01:26:54.715
Okay.

01:26:54.954 --> 01:26:58.345
Um, and, and so what I really most, oh, from

01:26:58.345 --> 01:26:59.215
the coaching side?

01:26:59.250 --> 01:26:59.845
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:26:59.845 --> 01:27:02.784
If I, if I need, if they need a support, if I need to support them or whatever.

01:27:02.814 --> 01:27:02.845
Okay.

01:27:03.324 --> 01:27:08.215
Um, but if I'm in that higher vibration, the p so I'll give you an example.

01:27:08.664 --> 01:27:17.664
Um, I was speaking at an event a few weeks ago and I was just, I was, my authentic self was like, like I was so in it.

01:27:17.755 --> 01:27:17.814
Yeah.

01:27:17.994 --> 01:27:18.864
Like I was so in it.

01:27:19.074 --> 01:27:24.864
And then the people that are ready, willing and able that to connect with me in whatever reasons or spaces.

01:27:24.895 --> 01:27:25.135
Right.

01:27:25.225 --> 01:27:26.814
And sometimes it's collaborations.

01:27:26.814 --> 01:27:31.060
I've been doing so much more collaborations with people that are just in the same, like Yeah.

01:27:31.090 --> 01:27:31.380
Just

01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:33.175
vibing on the same channels.

01:27:33.234 --> 01:27:33.984
Exactly.

01:27:34.015 --> 01:27:37.404
And it's like, but doing business differently in that sense.

01:27:37.404 --> 01:27:40.435
So it's, and the people that are not, are not gonna reach out to me.

01:27:40.435 --> 01:27:41.454
They're not gonna connect with me.

01:27:41.454 --> 01:27:42.324
They're not gonna, you know.

01:27:43.045 --> 01:27:43.104
Yeah.

01:27:43.164 --> 01:27:48.085
And I've, um, I've kind of evolved my company where I, I love helping people.

01:27:48.864 --> 01:27:52.854
Step into what they're meant to do and spread their message.

01:27:53.125 --> 01:28:00.175
So I've been doing a lot more like VAP days where it's a one in done, we collapse time, you're here for me, one, you know, this thing, we're doing this.

01:28:00.175 --> 01:28:00.505
Right.

01:28:00.895 --> 01:28:04.765
Um, and if they need to work on supporting, like getting them clear, like, we're doing this faster.

01:28:04.765 --> 01:28:09.265
Like, okay, instead of working with me for a year or six months, how about it's three months?

01:28:09.295 --> 01:28:10.015
How about it's two months?

01:28:10.015 --> 01:28:12.444
How about, how about, you know, a couple, a couple sessions?

01:28:12.625 --> 01:28:12.805
Yeah.

01:28:12.925 --> 01:28:15.805
Just to get people turned around and like ready to do it for themselves.

01:28:15.805 --> 01:28:16.104
Right.

01:28:16.270 --> 01:28:16.430
Interesting.

01:28:16.435 --> 01:28:21.984
And so, um, um, but it's, but it goes back to like tapping into like what they need.

01:28:22.164 --> 01:28:22.614
Right.

01:28:23.095 --> 01:28:29.965
And, and is that if there's intuition driven, I, I do teach people how to tap back into their intuition.

01:28:30.024 --> 01:28:30.414
Yeah.

01:28:30.774 --> 01:28:31.885
Um, I mean, from your part is

01:28:31.885 --> 01:28:32.545
what I'm thinking.

01:28:32.635 --> 01:28:39.430
Oh, for me, like to know which of you, you've kinda described a few different kind of kinds of techniques and practices that you've studied and mm-hmm.

01:28:39.805 --> 01:28:42.175
Like, which one of those is gonna be relevant for a person?

01:28:42.175 --> 01:28:42.545
Is that, so

01:28:42.654 --> 01:28:42.895
I

01:28:43.015 --> 01:28:46.555
symptomatic driven, like, uh, chat, GPT can learn it?

01:28:46.555 --> 01:28:48.175
Or is it intuition driven?

01:28:48.175 --> 01:28:51.310
Like based on what you're hearing, feeling, seeing mm-hmm.

01:28:52.435 --> 01:28:52.444
Energize.

01:28:52.444 --> 01:28:52.454
Mm-hmm.

01:28:52.795 --> 01:28:56.814
So there's some certain things that I'll pick up on unconscious, like when they're doing unconsciously.

01:28:56.814 --> 01:29:04.975
So if we're doing some work together and if I start noticing them, like, um, you know, closing their eyes when we're saying certain things or like they're ignoring it.

01:29:04.979 --> 01:29:05.069
Mm-hmm.

01:29:05.149 --> 01:29:09.324
Like there's a couple like physical cues that I can pick up on, but also just intuitive.

01:29:09.324 --> 01:29:10.404
Like when I tell people, you might be a

01:29:10.404 --> 01:29:11.545
good poker player.

01:29:12.175 --> 01:29:15.439
Maybe you start picking up on that energy stuff and you can tell when somebody's bluffing.

01:29:15.899 --> 01:29:17.560
Uh, you'll have to learn how to play poker first.

01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:19.194
Can always, I know play poker first, but like, you

01:29:19.194 --> 01:29:20.965
can always en energetically test everything.

01:29:21.024 --> 01:29:21.114
Right?

01:29:21.114 --> 01:29:21.204
Sure.

01:29:21.204 --> 01:29:27.145
Like, and so I always say like, you know, when we, um, when I make choices in my business, I don't work with everyone.

01:29:27.145 --> 01:29:29.034
I turn away more people than I work with people.

01:29:29.125 --> 01:29:29.395
Yeah.

01:29:29.454 --> 01:29:31.614
Um, because they have to be ready to Yeah.

01:29:31.645 --> 01:29:34.944
Um,'cause I'm like, I don't, I don't have time to be like, dilly dalian, let's go.

01:29:34.949 --> 01:29:35.039
Right?

01:29:35.064 --> 01:29:35.244
Right.

01:29:35.244 --> 01:29:36.654
Let's go so I can get you on track.

01:29:36.654 --> 01:29:38.154
Let's, and then you have the track.

01:29:38.154 --> 01:29:38.454
Right.

01:29:39.234 --> 01:29:48.835
Um, um, but what I, what I feel like I'm evolving to, and literally just had a conversation right before I got here and she goes, well, what, what does 2026 look like for you?

01:29:49.045 --> 01:29:54.685
And I'm like, I am going around and I'm like, gonna be, you know, doing more of the show and, and more speaking.

01:29:55.015 --> 01:30:01.824
But it's really to help activate people and activate people into their own, their own piece.

01:30:02.034 --> 01:30:03.414
And I am just loving that.

01:30:03.414 --> 01:30:03.970
And so, well, if you can

01:30:03.970 --> 01:30:07.145
do that, you'll gain a lot of, uh, energized followers as well.

01:30:07.145 --> 01:30:07.489
But it's

01:30:07.489 --> 01:30:14.755
just like, it's like I just, I, I just truly believe that we all know in our hearts of hearts Yeah.

01:30:15.024 --> 01:30:16.015
What we're here to do.

01:30:16.225 --> 01:30:17.784
And we've, we've forgotten it.

01:30:17.904 --> 01:30:19.475
We've become disconnected to it.

01:30:19.475 --> 01:30:19.670
So yeah.

01:30:19.670 --> 01:30:20.274
That's a, that sermon

01:30:20.274 --> 01:30:21.984
element, that's what I tell folks.

01:30:21.984 --> 01:30:30.114
We do, uh, we call it, uh, uh, the local collaborative process that we use in our peer advisory chapters.

01:30:30.114 --> 01:30:36.534
And it's, it's basically you put the question on the table and then you receive clarifying questions mm-hmm.

01:30:36.774 --> 01:30:39.954
From your fellow group before they're allowed to make any suggestions.

01:30:40.104 --> 01:30:40.194
Mm-hmm.

01:30:40.555 --> 01:30:41.140
And then you might get.

01:30:41.920 --> 01:30:44.710
15 or 20 suggestions from this group of 10.

01:30:45.369 --> 01:30:59.289
Um, but what I tell my, my members, or my prospective members especially, is out of that list of 15 suggestions, like one or two or three or four of'em are gonna hit you in the gut or hit you in the heart or hit you in the brain.

01:30:59.409 --> 01:30:59.680
Yeah.

01:30:59.710 --> 01:30:59.859
In

01:30:59.859 --> 01:31:04.569
a way that's different and you'll just kind of know that's the right answer.

01:31:04.600 --> 01:31:04.899
Yeah.

01:31:04.930 --> 01:31:06.609
Or at least part of the right answer.

01:31:06.609 --> 01:31:08.350
And, and just trust that

01:31:08.470 --> 01:31:08.770
Yeah.

01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:11.949
Kind of that intuition is activated.

01:31:11.949 --> 01:31:21.789
It's somehow, I guess it's your unconscious, discerning, this kind of combination of factors, the, the questions that led up to the clarifying answers that led up to it.

01:31:21.795 --> 01:31:21.984
Mm-hmm.

01:31:22.064 --> 01:31:30.904
This, the combination of suggestions and, and all of that is going into the, the rock Tumblr, and without your brain figuring it out, your, your heart.

01:31:31.885 --> 01:31:33.685
Your gut mostly does.

01:31:34.045 --> 01:31:34.524
Yeah.

01:31:34.645 --> 01:31:35.935
Or at least how it's perceived.

01:31:35.994 --> 01:31:36.414
Yeah.

01:31:36.475 --> 01:31:38.154
And it's like those little gut hits, like, right.

01:31:38.154 --> 01:31:38.814
Like, like that.

01:31:38.819 --> 01:31:38.970
Totally.

01:31:39.159 --> 01:31:40.854
Like that's, that's intuition.

01:31:40.854 --> 01:31:41.185
Right.

01:31:41.185 --> 01:31:41.515
Right.

01:31:42.204 --> 01:31:42.925
And yeah.

01:31:42.925 --> 01:31:44.904
If we can learn to use that more often.

01:31:44.965 --> 01:31:45.175
Yeah.

01:31:45.265 --> 01:31:46.255
It's, it's powerful.

01:31:46.255 --> 01:31:52.975
So I, I do teach people how to use muscle testing as a way of reconnecting to their, their, that intuition.

01:31:53.005 --> 01:31:54.984
So there's a bit of technology element to that as well.

01:31:54.984 --> 01:31:55.494
Is that right?

01:31:55.555 --> 01:31:55.914
Yeah.

01:31:55.944 --> 01:31:59.194
Well, I mean, I'll teach people, I dunno what muscle testing is.

01:31:59.194 --> 01:32:01.734
Muscle testing is, I'm imagining like testing your knee with a little hammer,

01:32:01.734 --> 01:32:02.604
but it's different probably.

01:32:03.145 --> 01:32:09.534
So you probably have seen people where they're like, usually on stages or whatever, if someone's doing muscle testing and they'll have someone with their arm out.

01:32:09.569 --> 01:32:09.850
Yeah.

01:32:09.949 --> 01:32:11.244
And then like Yeah.

01:32:11.244 --> 01:32:11.725
Resist.

01:32:11.725 --> 01:32:12.024
Right.

01:32:12.175 --> 01:32:13.435
Well that, that's one way.

01:32:13.435 --> 01:32:15.654
And then, but obviously you have to have another person to do that.

01:32:15.654 --> 01:32:19.824
And so there's probably nine or 10 different ways that you can use muscle testing.

01:32:19.854 --> 01:32:19.975
Okay.

01:32:20.364 --> 01:32:22.489
Um, you know, there's one that, and it's

01:32:22.489 --> 01:32:24.444
all ultimately about figuring out what the gut thinks.

01:32:24.654 --> 01:32:24.925
Yeah.

01:32:24.925 --> 01:32:24.970
About things.

01:32:25.149 --> 01:32:25.975
So the sway test,

01:32:25.975 --> 01:32:28.795
like the, I teach everyone the weight test at first'cause it's the fastest one.

01:32:29.244 --> 01:32:35.425
Um, so you stand up and you, um, put your feet shoulder length apart and then you say something like truth, like truth.

01:32:35.425 --> 01:32:36.595
I was born in November, excuse

01:32:36.595 --> 01:32:36.654
me,

01:32:36.835 --> 01:32:38.154
and then you sway.

01:32:38.154 --> 01:32:38.395
Okay.

01:32:39.055 --> 01:32:42.625
Um, and your truth will be forward and your falses will be backwards.

01:32:42.625 --> 01:32:44.784
So if I say truth, if I, we'll do this after this.

01:32:44.814 --> 01:32:45.114
Okay.

01:32:45.324 --> 01:32:46.435
And if, just remind me.

01:32:46.465 --> 01:32:47.185
Ava remind me.

01:32:47.189 --> 01:32:47.369
Yeah.

01:32:47.515 --> 01:32:49.975
And, uh, and then your falses will be backwards.

01:32:49.975 --> 01:32:53.454
So like, I'll say truth, I was born in February and then you'll sway backwards.

01:32:53.454 --> 01:32:53.850
So interesting.

01:32:54.395 --> 01:32:56.675
And if you're cross, meaning your energy is crossed.

01:32:56.704 --> 01:32:56.765
Yeah.

01:32:56.765 --> 01:32:58.685
There's a couple ways that you can clear yourself.

01:32:58.954 --> 01:33:00.814
Um, and you can just do the karate chop.

01:33:01.204 --> 01:33:07.564
Um, you can do the cross crawl, which is a, um, a whole, uh, a brain and gym exercise where you take your right hand to your left knee.

01:33:07.564 --> 01:33:13.414
I'm trying to tell us from people that are listening to the podcast and then your right knee to left, and so you're just kind of doing the cross crawl like this.

01:33:13.444 --> 01:33:13.625
Okay.

01:33:13.625 --> 01:33:17.854
You know, one at a time and that you can do that for a minute to help reset the brain.

01:33:18.149 --> 01:33:18.270
Interesting.

01:33:18.270 --> 01:33:19.744
Um, and then you'll get a true yes and true no.

01:33:19.805 --> 01:33:20.885
Um, there's the pendulum.

01:33:20.885 --> 01:33:22.864
There's, uh, people use tensors.

01:33:22.864 --> 01:33:27.215
I use, um, this process called sensing, and it took me eight months to master.

01:33:27.244 --> 01:33:27.274
Okay.

01:33:27.274 --> 01:33:28.715
But it took me forever.

01:33:28.715 --> 01:33:32.795
And you're supposed to get like a heaviness in your head.

01:33:33.095 --> 01:33:33.185
Okay.

01:33:33.274 --> 01:33:37.864
And a lightness for heaviness for nos, lightness for, uh, yeses.

01:33:37.925 --> 01:33:39.545
And I could not master it.

01:33:39.545 --> 01:33:41.555
And so finally I was like, okay.

01:33:42.850 --> 01:33:46.329
God spirit angel's like, just give me a true yes and a true no, just show it to me.

01:33:46.329 --> 01:33:54.880
And it was, I was driving and I had to download and I was like, oh, so my yeses are yawns and my nos are nothing.

01:33:55.449 --> 01:34:02.890
So I get a very clear, so if I'm testing something, I can just hold a piece of paper and I will teach people how to do it blind so that you take ego outta the way.

01:34:02.890 --> 01:34:02.979
Sure.

01:34:02.979 --> 01:34:07.210
Because it's your muscle testing you can make, you can force yourself to be like, I'm gonna make a force.

01:34:07.210 --> 01:34:07.539
Yes.

01:34:07.600 --> 01:34:07.779
Yeah.

01:34:07.989 --> 01:34:11.470
So if you take it into a blind, it takes ego out.

01:34:11.470 --> 01:34:15.250
It takes your, your human brain out of the equation.

01:34:15.310 --> 01:34:18.220
And so then you're really, truly testing that energy of it.

01:34:18.220 --> 01:34:23.229
And so you, um, I love it because then I can I test every client that I see?

01:34:23.319 --> 01:34:25.539
'cause maybe it's not a, maybe it's a timing issue.

01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:30.640
Maybe it's, I had a client one time, she wanted to work with me and she called me every month and I kept saying, no, it's, no, it's not.

01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:34.359
It took us 14 months before we worked together, but she was ready then, you know?

01:34:34.359 --> 01:34:37.510
And so, um, I'm really picky with who I work with.

01:34:37.539 --> 01:34:39.430
'cause I really want people to be successful.

01:34:39.430 --> 01:34:41.020
And so I'm invested in them.

01:34:41.350 --> 01:34:50.439
Um, I have an alternative motive, and that is that I do live events and when I have successful clients, I bring them up on stage and I want, so then I'm invested in their success.

01:34:50.500 --> 01:34:50.739
Right?

01:34:50.739 --> 01:34:50.829
Sure.

01:34:50.859 --> 01:34:57.699
And so, um, and so that's, um, so anyways, when you're starting to learn, you know, testing, it's really powerful.

01:34:57.699 --> 01:35:04.090
And, um, years ago, a couple years ago, I think it was in 2021, um, I had Oxygen Network.

01:35:04.180 --> 01:35:05.859
So I've done a lot of TV appearances.

01:35:05.890 --> 01:35:06.220
Okay.

01:35:06.430 --> 01:35:07.300
And, um.

01:35:08.020 --> 01:35:08.739
Oxygen network.

01:35:08.770 --> 01:35:08.859
Yeah.

01:35:08.859 --> 01:35:09.550
I've heard of it.

01:35:09.555 --> 01:35:09.935
I don't know if

01:35:09.939 --> 01:35:10.930
I watched it much, but reached

01:35:10.930 --> 01:35:13.539
out to me and they said they wanted to do a three hour show with me.

01:35:13.689 --> 01:35:13.720
Okay.

01:35:13.750 --> 01:35:14.770
Which is like huge.

01:35:14.800 --> 01:35:15.069
Okay.

01:35:15.069 --> 01:35:17.800
Like normally when you go on tv, it's like three minutes.

01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:18.430
Very right.

01:35:18.520 --> 01:35:19.210
Very beginning.

01:35:19.270 --> 01:35:22.239
And then they'll give you five minutes, and if you're really good, it's like six minutes.

01:35:22.239 --> 01:35:24.489
And then that's like, that's like the most, right.

01:35:24.494 --> 01:35:25.720
That's that's big time.

01:35:25.720 --> 01:35:25.960
Right.

01:35:26.500 --> 01:35:29.619
And so they, um, they said three hours.

01:35:29.619 --> 01:35:30.189
I'm like, wow.

01:35:30.220 --> 01:35:35.829
And so they picked me in Colorado and then they picked somebody in LA because that's where their studio's from.

01:35:36.250 --> 01:35:39.189
And I, um, I kept testing it the whole weekend.

01:35:39.189 --> 01:35:41.109
I talked to the producer probably three different times.

01:35:41.109 --> 01:35:44.470
And, and then at the end of the day, I had to give her an answer by Friday.

01:35:44.619 --> 01:35:47.890
And I, I kept getting, no, I never got a yes.

01:35:48.340 --> 01:35:52.659
And I'm so grateful that I said no, because they had their own little twist on the story.

01:35:53.229 --> 01:35:55.390
And it would've destroyed my reputation.

01:35:55.395 --> 01:35:57.520
It was, it would've probably destroyed my company.

01:35:57.520 --> 01:35:57.880
Interesting.

01:35:57.880 --> 01:35:59.649
'cause it was like, and I was like, oh my gosh.

01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:01.810
And it would've been just horrific.

01:36:02.170 --> 01:36:02.770
Horrific.

01:36:03.369 --> 01:36:04.449
Like, horrific pr.

01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:06.909
And I was like so grateful that I said no.

01:36:06.909 --> 01:36:07.689
And I was like, please.

01:36:07.689 --> 01:36:12.189
And I was like, uh, maybe just let the guy in LA do it because like, I, I don't want into it.

01:36:12.189 --> 01:36:12.550
Just don't feel it.

01:36:12.550 --> 01:36:12.640
Right.

01:36:12.729 --> 01:36:12.939
Yeah.

01:36:12.939 --> 01:36:12.949
Yeah.

01:36:13.119 --> 01:36:14.619
And, um, I'm so grateful it did.

01:36:14.619 --> 01:36:16.090
And when I said no to that,

01:36:16.125 --> 01:36:16.414
yeah.

01:36:16.630 --> 01:36:19.449
I had other opportunities show up for me that I could not make up.

01:36:19.449 --> 01:36:20.170
And I was like, oh my gosh.

01:36:20.170 --> 01:36:26.170
So being able to say no to that opened up these other yeses that were way more expansive for me in business.

01:36:26.175 --> 01:36:26.295
Yeah.

01:36:26.295 --> 01:36:26.854
Very interesting.

01:36:27.100 --> 01:36:32.175
Um, we like to spend a little time, um, jumping back to Little Terry.

01:36:32.795 --> 01:36:37.119
Little Terry, uh, we jump in the time machine and go back to you said the Midwest.

01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:41.470
Yeah, but where was, uh, where was three or 5-year-old little Terry?

01:36:41.859 --> 01:36:44.500
So I grew up in a town called Burdick, Kansas.

01:36:44.529 --> 01:36:46.420
Burdick Bur small town.

01:36:46.449 --> 01:36:46.750
Yeah.

01:36:46.779 --> 01:36:48.460
Central part of, uh, Kansas.

01:36:49.239 --> 01:36:50.590
So what's the s word there?

01:36:50.595 --> 01:36:51.310
Uh, Salina.

01:36:51.310 --> 01:36:52.000
Salina.

01:36:52.029 --> 01:36:53.414
So like, yeah, between south of that or something.

01:36:53.619 --> 01:36:56.079
So right in between like Salina, Topeka.

01:36:56.859 --> 01:36:58.840
Wichita was like an hour and 15 minutes away.

01:36:59.079 --> 01:37:00.340
Very central part of Kansas.

01:37:00.369 --> 01:37:00.609
Okay.

01:37:00.970 --> 01:37:03.399
Um, and then, um, grew up there.

01:37:03.399 --> 01:37:06.159
Burdick was a population of a hundred, including the countryside.

01:37:06.159 --> 01:37:06.250
My

01:37:06.250 --> 01:37:09.069
town was a hundred population too, that I grew up in, in North Dakota.

01:37:09.250 --> 01:37:09.975
Oh, North Dakota.

01:37:10.420 --> 01:37:10.510
Yeah.

01:37:10.510 --> 01:37:10.869
I graduated

01:37:10.869 --> 01:37:12.670
with a class of five high school class.

01:37:12.699 --> 01:37:13.420
Oh, you beat,

01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:15.909
you are like the first person to like beat me.

01:37:16.180 --> 01:37:17.619
I have 18 in my graduating class.

01:37:17.619 --> 01:37:17.710
Oh,

01:37:17.710 --> 01:37:18.670
that's a pretty good size.

01:37:18.675 --> 01:37:18.734
Yeah.

01:37:18.739 --> 01:37:18.970
Yeah.

01:37:18.970 --> 01:37:20.229
That was a big class for our school.

01:37:20.289 --> 01:37:20.710
I know.

01:37:21.340 --> 01:37:21.850
Five.

01:37:21.850 --> 01:37:22.449
Wow.

01:37:22.659 --> 01:37:25.750
Well that was two schools that merged when I was in second grade or something.

01:37:25.750 --> 01:37:26.529
So a couple towns.

01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:29.439
We had five towns that made up our one school.

01:37:29.444 --> 01:37:29.814
Oh yeah.

01:37:29.835 --> 01:37:30.494
So similar.

01:37:30.494 --> 01:37:31.095
We had eight in football.

01:37:31.095 --> 01:37:31.375
Yeah.

01:37:31.375 --> 01:37:33.850
If you just had two towns, you would've had a five person graduation.

01:37:33.850 --> 01:37:33.970
Yeah.

01:37:33.970 --> 01:37:34.899
We didn't have any football.

01:37:34.930 --> 01:37:36.039
We didn't have eight men.

01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:36.760
We didn't have 11 men.

01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:38.109
We had track and basketball.

01:37:38.109 --> 01:37:38.859
That was your options.

01:37:38.920 --> 01:37:39.130
Okay.

01:37:39.130 --> 01:37:41.319
We had, I think we had like the main ones.

01:37:41.319 --> 01:37:44.680
We had the basketball, volleyball, cheerleading.

01:37:44.859 --> 01:37:45.220
Oh yeah.

01:37:45.489 --> 01:37:48.100
And golf was at a different town.

01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:49.489
They had like five kids.

01:37:49.489 --> 01:37:49.725
Oh yeah.

01:37:49.750 --> 01:37:50.470
You were metro

01:37:50.529 --> 01:37:51.220
metropolitan.

01:37:51.220 --> 01:37:52.329
Almost big time.

01:37:52.329 --> 01:37:55.270
So, very agriculture driven town, I imagine.

01:37:55.270 --> 01:37:55.329
Yeah.

01:37:55.359 --> 01:37:57.460
Nobody moved there very often.

01:37:57.460 --> 01:37:58.029
It's fair.

01:37:58.029 --> 01:37:59.439
People moved away sometimes.

01:37:59.470 --> 01:38:00.340
Yeah, same.

01:38:00.340 --> 01:38:07.100
And like, um, there was a lot of, a lot of our, um, a lot of my high school friends would go off to college mm-hmm.

01:38:07.204 --> 01:38:08.604
And then get trained in whatever.

01:38:09.534 --> 01:38:11.364
And then they'd come back to farm.

01:38:11.604 --> 01:38:11.845
Yeah.

01:38:11.904 --> 01:38:13.590
And so, you know, like a technical

01:38:13.595 --> 01:38:15.534
school for agriculture or,

01:38:15.595 --> 01:38:24.354
uh, or like other things even they played a school for sports and they became like one of one of my friends, he became a pharmacist and they came back and became a town pharmacist and like Yeah.

01:38:24.685 --> 01:38:26.005
And farmed on the side too.

01:38:26.185 --> 01:38:26.784
You got it.

01:38:27.654 --> 01:38:28.145
You know, it like, you know it.

01:38:28.314 --> 01:38:28.675
Yeah.

01:38:28.675 --> 01:38:28.685
Yeah.

01:38:29.034 --> 01:38:35.395
So I think that, um, there's a lot of, I, there's a lot of things that I love about small town and, uh, growing up in a small town,

01:38:35.604 --> 01:38:35.664
yeah.

01:38:35.935 --> 01:38:37.015
There was a lot of great things.

01:38:37.045 --> 01:38:43.074
Like my favorite memories are just like, which again, like I can't, like, you know, you grew up there too, so you understand.

01:38:43.074 --> 01:38:45.534
Like, we would drive, we would ride our bikes as kids.

01:38:45.595 --> 01:38:45.954
Oh yeah.

01:38:46.375 --> 01:38:47.005
Into town.

01:38:47.005 --> 01:38:47.694
That was three miles.

01:38:47.694 --> 01:38:49.270
'cause we lived outside of town'cause we lived Sure.

01:38:49.270 --> 01:38:49.324
I lived

01:38:49.324 --> 01:38:52.314
in town, but we would ride our bikes five miles out of town too if we wanted to.

01:38:52.314 --> 01:38:53.305
And then, I mean, see friends, we were

01:38:53.305 --> 01:38:55.109
unsupervised for the entire summer.

01:38:55.109 --> 01:38:55.590
Totally.

01:38:55.590 --> 01:38:55.710
Yeah.

01:38:55.729 --> 01:38:56.484
The entire time.

01:38:56.484 --> 01:38:58.430
Like, you know, people were dark, you're like, oh my gosh.

01:38:58.439 --> 01:38:58.789
Right.

01:38:58.795 --> 01:38:58.854
Yeah.

01:38:58.854 --> 01:38:59.274
From 8:00

01:38:59.274 --> 01:39:00.984
AM until 8:00 PM you're just good.

01:39:01.225 --> 01:39:01.585
Yeah.

01:39:01.585 --> 01:39:03.925
But you know, I, I learned a lot of values from that.

01:39:03.925 --> 01:39:05.965
And there's a lot of, well, when I first Were your family

01:39:05.965 --> 01:39:07.435
farmers or what were they do in there?

01:39:07.675 --> 01:39:10.104
Mom was a stay-home mom and then dad worked.

01:39:10.135 --> 01:39:12.595
Um, he was, I I would say he was like an inventor.

01:39:12.895 --> 01:39:17.064
Oh, so he was a he did, um, he would invent things.

01:39:17.125 --> 01:39:17.395
Okay.

01:39:17.515 --> 01:39:23.725
And then he became, uh, was working, um, invented a machine that was actually designed to put.

01:39:24.850 --> 01:39:26.949
Like how they do roofs.

01:39:27.130 --> 01:39:27.220
Okay.

01:39:27.220 --> 01:39:32.470
And so he invented that and then he started working and, and, and creating, selling that product or whatever.

01:39:32.590 --> 01:39:34.085
And then he would also, and were they born

01:39:34.090 --> 01:39:34.659
and raised there?

01:39:34.659 --> 01:39:35.649
Did they move to there?

01:39:35.675 --> 01:39:37.329
They, they were both in Kansas.

01:39:37.390 --> 01:39:37.630
Yeah.

01:39:37.659 --> 01:39:38.319
But different place.

01:39:38.380 --> 01:39:38.470
Yeah.

01:39:38.470 --> 01:39:39.010
Different parts.

01:39:39.010 --> 01:39:47.260
And then, um, and then, uh, and then he would also, um, there obviously was lots of farming Sure.

01:39:47.260 --> 01:39:47.979
Um, communities.

01:39:47.979 --> 01:39:54.010
And so there was a lot of accidents and so people would like, get disabled because of like, I lost my arm because of this.

01:39:54.010 --> 01:39:54.939
I lost, you know?

01:39:55.000 --> 01:40:04.359
And so he would actually invent, um, ways to modify, um, vehicles, gates, things that, if there was, you know, so that's kind of cool.

01:40:04.420 --> 01:40:04.750
Interesting.

01:40:04.930 --> 01:40:09.279
Um, and then, um, so I have two older brothers and then a younger sister.

01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:09.789
Okay.

01:40:09.789 --> 01:40:15.279
And so there was four of us that grew up, but there's like, um, I just have some of my favorite memories came from like, just growing up in the Yeah.

01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:16.119
And creating our fun.

01:40:16.180 --> 01:40:17.050
Like we had creative fun.

01:40:17.050 --> 01:40:19.869
And I think that's why I'm so creative today, I'm sure, to be honest.

01:40:20.199 --> 01:40:33.850
Um, back in the day I was gonna go get my PhD and I was gonna study, um, kids that grew up on, in like that had no technology, um, and how their brains form compared to people that had access to technology.

01:40:33.850 --> 01:40:41.590
Man, I'm hearing from like, uh, there's some schools now or even classrooms that are banning phones in the classroom and stuff.

01:40:42.069 --> 01:40:42.729
And the.

01:40:43.569 --> 01:40:49.180
The pace of learning in those rooms is so much more extraordinary.

01:40:49.180 --> 01:40:52.149
It's almost like back to the old days where kids can actually learn.

01:40:52.149 --> 01:40:58.329
'cause they're not fucking around on their phone the whole time and playing Candy Crush or texting pictures to their friends on Snapchat.

01:40:59.020 --> 01:41:01.869
I just, I think they're like, there's something about the creative mind.

01:41:01.869 --> 01:41:03.039
Like we had to create our fun.

01:41:03.069 --> 01:41:03.130
Yeah.

01:41:03.130 --> 01:41:06.310
'cause we, we had four channels, technically two of them were the same channel.

01:41:06.550 --> 01:41:06.819
Right.

01:41:06.819 --> 01:41:08.619
So we had three channel.

01:41:08.619 --> 01:41:08.680
Yeah.

01:41:08.680 --> 01:41:08.829
We had

01:41:08.829 --> 01:41:09.430
channels, two radio stations.

01:41:09.435 --> 01:41:10.840
One was pop, one was country.

01:41:10.899 --> 01:41:11.529
There you go.

01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:12.279
Right.

01:41:12.699 --> 01:41:14.020
And we just had to go create our fun.

01:41:14.020 --> 01:41:19.630
And it's funny'cause like somebody last night, uh, was saying, we're gonna do a special episode in on December 9th.

01:41:19.630 --> 01:41:24.659
And, and she said, we're gonna have you bring back your a favorite toy when you were growing up and da da da.

01:41:24.670 --> 01:41:28.180
And I was like, and I was thinking about it today, this morning when I was up.

01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:30.640
I was like doing my meditation and I was thinking about it.

01:41:30.640 --> 01:41:31.630
I was like, what would I take?

01:41:31.630 --> 01:41:32.470
And I was like, you know what?

01:41:33.385 --> 01:41:36.385
I would take, um, you know, those like big scissors?

01:41:36.564 --> 01:41:37.345
They're like, yeah.

01:41:37.404 --> 01:41:38.784
They're like Edward, like for a chamber

01:41:38.784 --> 01:41:40.074
open house or something like that.

01:41:40.194 --> 01:41:41.125
Well, not, not like that.

01:41:41.125 --> 01:41:41.819
The the Clippers.

01:41:41.819 --> 01:41:42.354
Like the, oh,

01:41:42.414 --> 01:41:43.074
for hedge trimmer.

01:41:43.079 --> 01:41:43.579
Hedge trimmer.

01:41:43.579 --> 01:41:43.590
Yeah.

01:41:43.739 --> 01:41:43.899
Yeah.

01:41:44.034 --> 01:41:54.979
I was like, I think I would take that because like, that was one of my favorite things as a kid, because I was like, we were always creating and cutting like grass and we were cutting flowers and we were making, we were just cre always creating, yeah.

01:41:55.100 --> 01:41:55.859
Fighting some cardboard.

01:41:56.359 --> 01:42:05.395
Cut things out, cutting things out, making diorama or like, just like, um, like we were making like dandelion soup out in our, you know, um, in our forts.

01:42:05.395 --> 01:42:09.954
And we had like lots of different forts and we, we probably had like four different forts in our, in our house.

01:42:09.954 --> 01:42:12.055
And we had, we had a high ride, like two older

01:42:12.055 --> 01:42:12.444
brothers.

01:42:12.444 --> 01:42:12.774
Right.

01:42:12.774 --> 01:42:14.180
So, uh, yes, we, lots of things.

01:42:14.659 --> 01:42:15.100
Designers mostly.

01:42:15.159 --> 01:42:15.500
And we

01:42:15.500 --> 01:42:21.114
were like, and we had, you know, tree houses and we had, you know, like all these things we had, we had a cave, we had this like, cool little place.

01:42:21.145 --> 01:42:22.734
I mean, we just, we were constantly outside.

01:42:22.765 --> 01:42:23.180
Yeah, yeah.

01:42:23.545 --> 01:42:24.055
Playing and stuff.

01:42:24.055 --> 01:42:37.404
And then I thought that the other thing would be like a scarf, because when we were younger, my mom sewed a lot and she had this, um, and she, we found this cabinet one time and there's all these like gorgeous scarves and like a beautiful things.

01:42:37.404 --> 01:42:38.965
And we would make gowns.

01:42:39.055 --> 01:42:44.454
And so instead of like playing dress up, traditionally we would take and you could wrap these Yeah.

01:42:44.454 --> 01:42:46.704
And, and tie them and put it over.

01:42:46.704 --> 01:42:51.685
And then you'd have scarves for hair and we would just constantly be rapping and tying in.

01:42:52.510 --> 01:42:55.539
Safety pitting, but we would make these gorgeous gowns and we'd play.

01:42:55.539 --> 01:42:55.659
Oh, fun.

01:42:55.689 --> 01:42:56.619
I mean, it was just so much fun.

01:42:56.979 --> 01:43:01.989
Um, and, uh, one of our neighbors one time, um, when my daughter was younger, I did the same thing.

01:43:01.989 --> 01:43:05.590
I was like, I went and bought just a whole bunch of pieces of like gorgeous, like

01:43:05.649 --> 01:43:06.595
vivid fabric kind of stuff.

01:43:06.600 --> 01:43:07.479
Fabric of things,

01:43:07.479 --> 01:43:07.810
right.

01:43:07.840 --> 01:43:10.119
And then we would just, Dr that's how we played dress up.

01:43:10.149 --> 01:43:17.380
Well, she, um, was from, um, she was Ethiopian and I was like, come have the girls come over and play dress up.

01:43:17.380 --> 01:43:19.510
And she's like, oh, we don't, we don't dress up in costumes.

01:43:19.510 --> 01:43:22.779
Like we don't, that's that's against like our belief system.

01:43:22.869 --> 01:43:23.050
Yeah.

01:43:23.050 --> 01:43:24.670
And I'm like, well, this is what we do.

01:43:24.670 --> 01:43:26.770
And she goes, oh my gosh, I love it.

01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:28.060
She's, they're welcome to do that.

01:43:28.090 --> 01:43:28.960
And I was like, oh my gosh.

01:43:28.960 --> 01:43:32.529
And so,'cause they were just, they didn't, they didn't believe in costumes from a

01:43:32.590 --> 01:43:36.789
faith perspective probably of, uh, adornment kind of, uh,'cause that's.

01:43:36.880 --> 01:43:38.774
Like, it was just, I forget what they call the ETH opening.

01:43:38.774 --> 01:43:39.189
Like, because they didn't,

01:43:39.279 --> 01:43:40.960
because they don't, like, they don't believe in Halloween.

01:43:40.960 --> 01:43:41.979
They don't believe in, right, right.

01:43:42.010 --> 01:43:42.850
Which I totally get.

01:43:43.239 --> 01:43:44.649
Um, and all the things up, it starts with

01:43:44.649 --> 01:43:50.619
a CI think is their kind of branch of Christianity, but I can't quite recall it anyway, so she was like, oh my gosh.

01:43:50.619 --> 01:43:51.699
So we, it was just, it

01:43:51.699 --> 01:43:56.979
was, but some of our favorite memories are coming from like, just being cre like that again was like a creativity thing.

01:43:56.979 --> 01:43:57.039
So

01:43:57.039 --> 01:44:01.779
what was your, uh, like launch, like when you, or did you go all the way through high school there?

01:44:01.779 --> 01:44:03.100
You said a class of 18?

01:44:03.100 --> 01:44:03.159
Yeah.

01:44:03.159 --> 01:44:05.380
And then off to college right away, or mm-hmm.

01:44:05.380 --> 01:44:09.489
What was your, were you destined to depart that little town in Kansas?

01:44:09.789 --> 01:44:09.920
Oh my gosh.

01:44:09.920 --> 01:44:11.199
I had my bags packed two weeks prior.

01:44:12.069 --> 01:44:13.930
I'm not gonna lie, I was so excited.

01:44:13.930 --> 01:44:18.850
Like my mom always said that you were a city girl, stuck in tr and stuck in a country girl's life.

01:44:18.909 --> 01:44:20.859
Yeah, because I loved diversity.

01:44:20.859 --> 01:44:27.399
I loved ex, like we always had, um, kids that were foreign exchange students and it was very a white school, right?

01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:27.609
Sure.

01:44:27.670 --> 01:44:32.095
And then we'd have a foreign exchange student and I'd be like, I was like, I'll be your best friend.

01:44:32.095 --> 01:44:32.654
And I'm like, oh my gosh.

01:44:32.734 --> 01:44:37.000
I was like, and I just would gravitate and I just wanted to learn and soak up and just like, ugh.

01:44:37.149 --> 01:44:37.750
All the things

01:44:37.779 --> 01:44:44.680
we only knew had one exchange student that I remember from my high school years, and he was Swedish, so he was like even whiter than we were, but he talked funny.

01:44:44.680 --> 01:44:45.279
So that was cool.

01:44:45.939 --> 01:44:47.109
Just so I was always fascinated.

01:44:47.109 --> 01:44:52.630
And then, so then my husband and I, so when we went, I went, I went to um, Emporia State.

01:44:52.689 --> 01:44:53.079
Um.

01:44:53.470 --> 01:44:54.579
In for college.

01:44:55.029 --> 01:44:56.590
And I knew Is that Wichita or something?

01:44:56.590 --> 01:44:56.680
What?

01:44:56.680 --> 01:44:57.760
It was in Emporia.

01:44:58.359 --> 01:44:58.779
Oh, Emporia, Kansas.

01:44:58.810 --> 01:44:59.229
Oh yeah, por start.

01:44:59.444 --> 01:44:59.734
Okay.

01:45:00.310 --> 01:45:04.869
And so I went there'cause I was, I, you know, I was first generation college grad.

01:45:04.930 --> 01:45:05.199
Yeah.

01:45:05.409 --> 01:45:08.949
And so I just, I really didn't have the confidence to be honest.

01:45:08.949 --> 01:45:09.984
I was, you first didn't know

01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:14.199
anything about applying for a scholarships for other schools or things either.

01:45:14.199 --> 01:45:14.829
Just like mine.

01:45:14.835 --> 01:45:14.895
Exactly.

01:45:15.010 --> 01:45:15.399
Exactly.

01:45:15.399 --> 01:45:25.960
And so I was like, I was first generation college grad or college student and I just, I was really shy and I had just kind, kind of gotten over my shyness, but I was still really reserved.

01:45:25.960 --> 01:45:29.020
I was a really, um, and I was just like, I didn't have the confidence.

01:45:29.020 --> 01:45:37.539
Well I dunno about you, but I was, even though I was a, mostly a student in high school, I assumed that when I went to college that almost everybody was gonna be smarter than me.

01:45:37.630 --> 01:45:38.050
Yeah.

01:45:38.979 --> 01:45:39.250
You know?

01:45:39.250 --> 01:45:40.659
'cause I was this bumpkin kid.

01:45:40.989 --> 01:45:41.095
Yeah, definitely.

01:45:41.100 --> 01:45:47.470
You know, and I hadn't had pre precalc or calculus yet and I needed to go and study that to become an engineer like I thought I was supposed to do.

01:45:47.470 --> 01:45:47.529
Yeah.

01:45:48.369 --> 01:45:52.359
Um, and then, you know, I spent a year and a half acting that way.

01:45:52.420 --> 01:45:56.800
And then I realized you go, oh, it turns out I'm just as smart as these city kids.

01:45:57.699 --> 01:45:57.760
Yeah.

01:45:57.760 --> 01:45:57.770
Right.

01:45:57.770 --> 01:45:59.680
Uh, and so I might as well act like that instead.

01:45:59.680 --> 01:45:59.739
Yeah.

01:45:59.744 --> 01:46:00.215
Good for you.

01:46:00.364 --> 01:46:02.560
Well, you gotta, good for, you gotta believe it before you act that

01:46:02.560 --> 01:46:02.770
way.

01:46:02.770 --> 01:46:03.310
Yeah, exactly.

01:46:04.029 --> 01:46:04.569
Um, so did

01:46:04.569 --> 01:46:06.340
you finish up there, go all the way through or?

01:46:06.460 --> 01:46:11.199
So I, I, I was gonna go two years into Emporia and then I was gonna transfer to Washburn'cause I was gonna become a social worker.

01:46:11.470 --> 01:46:17.229
And then I met some amazing mentors along the way and they really just kind of guided me'cause I really just didn't have that direction.

01:46:17.229 --> 01:46:22.300
And I realized looking back, they were just like, like it was, they were just like divinely planted in my life.

01:46:22.359 --> 01:46:22.420
Yeah.

01:46:22.420 --> 01:46:25.000
And like, they just helped guide me to what I needed.

01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:26.710
And it was, it was, it was beautiful.

01:46:27.130 --> 01:46:36.250
And then my husband, my boyfriend at the time, him and I got married and then, uh, and then we were like, let's do our undergrad internships.

01:46:36.279 --> 01:46:38.859
'cause we had just graduated, we were doing our undergrad internships somewhere.

01:46:39.789 --> 01:46:42.100
And so we used to play darts to make decisions.

01:46:42.220 --> 01:46:42.460
Okay.

01:46:42.460 --> 01:46:43.869
So like, okay, who's cooking?

01:46:43.869 --> 01:46:47.319
Or, you know, are we going out to dinner or like, are we going to this restaurant or this restaurant, blah.

01:46:47.319 --> 01:46:49.060
And we would play darts to figure that out.

01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:51.850
And so we put up the United States map.

01:46:51.850 --> 01:46:55.479
He got a dart, I got a DART one landed in, uh, Colorado.

01:46:55.569 --> 01:46:55.750
Yep.

01:46:55.810 --> 01:46:57.220
And then one landed in Arizona.

01:46:57.220 --> 01:46:58.300
And I said, Ooh, Arizona.

01:46:58.300 --> 01:46:59.140
Hot sticky.

01:46:59.500 --> 01:47:04.810
Um, and then we are like, we'd come out here a couple times to ski and then I was like, oh, Colorado snowy.

01:47:04.869 --> 01:47:07.689
Like most, most people think because we come out here when it's snowing.

01:47:08.140 --> 01:47:10.720
And so I was like, uh, I said, well, here's a compromise.

01:47:10.720 --> 01:47:12.699
We'll move to Colorado for one year.

01:47:12.729 --> 01:47:14.500
If it sucks, we'll move to California.

01:47:14.739 --> 01:47:17.560
And then 20 some years later, you know, we are still here.

01:47:17.890 --> 01:47:18.220
Did you come

01:47:18.220 --> 01:47:18.534
straight to Denver?

01:47:19.524 --> 01:47:20.574
Or where did you land first?

01:47:20.574 --> 01:47:22.585
Yeah, how did you So we make the move.

01:47:22.585 --> 01:47:28.465
So I was doing an internship in Denver, like downtown Denver, and he was doing one in Lafayette.

01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:28.939
Oh.

01:47:29.034 --> 01:47:33.475
And so we drove from Denver to Lafayette and we're like, eh, this is about the middle ground.

01:47:33.475 --> 01:47:36.564
So we, we ended up in Westminster because that was about right.

01:47:36.564 --> 01:47:38.395
Halfway, halfway point between the two.

01:47:38.395 --> 01:47:42.055
And then we, you know, kind of popped around to different places.

01:47:42.055 --> 01:47:43.314
And then now we live in Parker.

01:47:43.345 --> 01:47:43.494
And you

01:47:43.494 --> 01:47:46.765
just kind of, uh, got into counseling shortly after, and then

01:47:47.125 --> 01:47:47.545
Yeah.

01:47:47.545 --> 01:47:48.385
Got sick, your boss

01:47:48.385 --> 01:47:51.085
and started the, the rest of the journey from there.

01:47:51.085 --> 01:47:51.175
Yeah.

01:47:51.175 --> 01:47:52.015
The rest of the journey.

01:47:52.015 --> 01:47:53.484
And, and yeah.

01:47:53.635 --> 01:47:55.824
That, that brings you, that brings you full circle.

01:47:55.885 --> 01:47:56.034
Yeah.

01:47:56.935 --> 01:48:00.114
Would you like to play our strange game?

01:48:00.295 --> 01:48:00.475
Yes.

01:48:00.715 --> 01:48:01.675
I wanna play strange games.

01:48:01.675 --> 01:48:02.604
Random question.

01:48:03.204 --> 01:48:03.984
Ping pong balls.

01:48:04.015 --> 01:48:04.045
Oh,

01:48:04.494 --> 01:48:05.454
I love this.

01:48:05.649 --> 01:48:05.939
Okay.

01:48:05.944 --> 01:48:09.385
So grab three of these out of here.

01:48:09.444 --> 01:48:09.505
Okay.

01:48:10.225 --> 01:48:15.114
And you can just grab all three and I'll take it back from you so we don't have this big ugly bucket on the table for too long.

01:48:16.854 --> 01:48:17.185
Okay.

01:48:17.545 --> 01:48:21.354
And each of those questions is tied to a question on this list.

01:48:21.354 --> 01:48:21.364
List.

01:48:22.345 --> 01:48:22.444
Oh my gosh.

01:48:22.444 --> 01:48:22.484
I'm a little nervous.

01:48:22.645 --> 01:48:23.125
Okay,

01:48:23.185 --> 01:48:25.135
man, two again, everybody draws me two.

01:48:25.135 --> 01:48:25.435
No, I,

01:48:25.435 --> 01:48:27.805
no, I got, I got 12, I got 29.

01:48:27.895 --> 01:48:28.645
Oh, that's not a two.

01:48:28.645 --> 01:48:29.095
Okay, good.

01:48:29.095 --> 01:48:30.295
21 and 10.

01:48:30.385 --> 01:48:30.805
Okay.

01:48:31.614 --> 01:48:33.175
Do you have a preference for where we start?

01:48:33.175 --> 01:48:33.185
You?

01:48:33.185 --> 01:48:33.699
You surprised me.

01:48:34.250 --> 01:48:34.914
What did you say?

01:48:34.914 --> 01:48:36.114
21, 29 and 10.

01:48:36.114 --> 01:48:36.385
Yep.

01:48:36.925 --> 01:48:37.375
Okay.

01:48:41.154 --> 01:48:42.805
It's pretty fun.

01:48:43.045 --> 01:48:43.645
I mean, yeah.

01:48:43.645 --> 01:48:44.395
Gimme a fun one.

01:48:44.395 --> 01:48:44.875
I'm a fun pusher.

01:48:44.875 --> 01:48:45.175
That one's

01:48:45.175 --> 01:48:46.194
pretty fun.

01:48:47.814 --> 01:48:48.444
I will start with, uh,

01:48:49.104 --> 01:48:49.854
if you wanna change it up, I would never know.

01:48:49.975 --> 01:48:50.545
Yeah, it's true.

01:48:50.545 --> 01:48:50.965
I would not.

01:48:52.585 --> 01:48:58.225
The, uh, what was the most surprising thing to you about building a business?

01:48:58.284 --> 01:49:11.064
Like from starting that sole proprietorship and then realizing you couldn't have a vacation unless you hired somebody, but as you were navigating, especially that growth from the two of you to four of you to 10 of you Yeah.

01:49:11.664 --> 01:49:17.725
And hiring an admin, office management and stuff, like, was there, was there anything that really surprised you about that journey?

01:49:19.795 --> 01:49:20.515
Oh, goodness.

01:49:20.725 --> 01:49:27.925
Um, gosh, I just, I think about just like the time, right?

01:49:27.925 --> 01:49:33.414
And just wearing so many hats, like nobody told you, like, Hey, you're gonna get into this.

01:49:33.414 --> 01:49:42.744
And instead of, instead of going and working and doing one role right, at one company Totally, you're gonna do all the roles and all the things and be all the things, right?

01:49:43.135 --> 01:49:47.515
Um, and I was one of those folks that, you know, if the light bulb needs change, I was gonna change it.

01:49:47.515 --> 01:49:49.164
Like I was the, I was active.

01:49:49.170 --> 01:49:49.350
Yeah.

01:49:49.350 --> 01:49:50.909
You were part of that servant, leader of the shop

01:49:50.909 --> 01:49:51.189
kind

01:49:51.189 --> 01:49:51.310
of,

01:49:51.385 --> 01:49:51.744
yeah.

01:49:51.805 --> 01:49:54.475
And, um, I, I just believed, if, you know, um.

01:49:55.645 --> 01:49:58.045
I can't expect someone else to do it if I'm not willing to do it.

01:49:58.164 --> 01:49:58.284
Yeah.

01:49:58.284 --> 01:50:03.505
Um, but I just think that like all the hats and all the things are just being pulled in so many different directions.

01:50:03.505 --> 01:50:03.625
Yeah.

01:50:03.630 --> 01:50:03.659
Yeah.

01:50:03.925 --> 01:50:07.104
Until I bought, until I, until I grew team.

01:50:07.284 --> 01:50:13.704
And so one of the things that I did do that was, um, that came outta that, and I read the book, the E Myth Revisited.

01:50:13.734 --> 01:50:13.824
Sure.

01:50:13.854 --> 01:50:23.845
And if you're not an entrepreneur, if you're an entrepreneur and have not read this, like, it's like, yeah, it's, and one of my hacks, I'm gonna spoil it for people, but I wrote out the, the company flow chart.

01:50:24.564 --> 01:50:29.694
So I put the CEO, that's me, and then I put the head widget maker, which is me, I was a therapist.

01:50:29.699 --> 01:50:29.710
Mm-hmm.

01:50:29.779 --> 01:50:31.494
And I was the supervisor.

01:50:31.704 --> 01:50:37.194
I was also the CPA, I was the bookkeeper, I was the admin, I was the sales, I was the marketing.

01:50:37.314 --> 01:50:39.324
And I put my name in every box.

01:50:39.534 --> 01:50:42.024
And then I put down like three to four roles.

01:50:42.550 --> 01:50:44.229
The major roles of each of those boxes.

01:50:44.260 --> 01:50:44.574
Yep, yep.

01:50:44.949 --> 01:50:46.720
And then I said, what do I hate the most?

01:50:46.779 --> 01:50:47.079
Yeah.

01:50:47.439 --> 01:50:50.140
And then, um, I went and filled that position.

01:50:50.140 --> 01:50:51.369
I'm like, how much more, how many more?

01:50:51.369 --> 01:50:51.880
Or do the most

01:50:51.880 --> 01:50:52.630
poorly anyway?

01:50:52.899 --> 01:50:53.140
Yeah.

01:50:53.140 --> 01:50:54.489
Or yeah, for me, like yeah, whatever.

01:50:54.494 --> 01:50:56.375
I mean, I guess we hate doing things poorly, so Yeah.

01:50:56.380 --> 01:50:56.439
Yeah.

01:50:56.439 --> 01:50:57.760
There's, trust me.

01:50:58.300 --> 01:50:59.229
And so then I was like, okay.

01:50:59.289 --> 01:51:00.760
And so I backfilled it.

01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:01.090
Yeah.

01:51:01.119 --> 01:51:02.619
Um, and I just kept backfilling it.

01:51:02.619 --> 01:51:05.859
So then I was like, okay, how many more clients do I need to see in order for this to happen?

01:51:05.859 --> 01:51:07.720
So I was like, okay, a bookkeeper is this much.

01:51:07.720 --> 01:51:08.289
Okay, perfect.

01:51:08.289 --> 01:51:10.060
I can see three more clients, more clients a month.

01:51:10.840 --> 01:51:13.029
And I just kept backfilling it and I totally backfilled it.

01:51:13.175 --> 01:51:13.335
Fascinating.

01:51:13.335 --> 01:51:13.614
You know?

01:51:13.619 --> 01:51:13.899
Yeah.

01:51:13.960 --> 01:51:17.140
That's an interesting, I could tell you're very, I like me in the kept me in the business person.

01:51:17.140 --> 01:51:19.750
It kept in the black, the whole, you just wouldn't allow that to not happen.

01:51:19.750 --> 01:51:21.939
Even if you weren't an MBA or anything like that.

01:51:21.939 --> 01:51:24.039
It was like, okay, this is how many we need.

01:51:24.100 --> 01:51:24.430
Yeah.

01:51:24.609 --> 01:51:24.789
Yeah.

01:51:24.789 --> 01:51:29.560
But I, I did feel like I got like a third and fourth degree in my car.

01:51:29.590 --> 01:51:36.220
'cause I was always driving around and the thing that I was always like listening to is business and understanding that, and then just applying it.

01:51:36.220 --> 01:51:36.229
Right.

01:51:36.229 --> 01:51:37.869
Like business books and different things.

01:51:37.869 --> 01:51:39.010
Business book, I mean podcast later.

01:51:40.029 --> 01:51:45.909
Like all the things I just constant, I'm constantly learning and I just, but the implement, you have to implement those things Right.

01:51:46.210 --> 01:51:47.350
In order for it to really Yeah.

01:51:47.350 --> 01:51:48.100
Simmering ideas.

01:51:48.100 --> 01:51:48.310
Just

01:51:48.310 --> 01:51:49.060
sit there and simmer.

01:51:49.090 --> 01:51:49.479
Yeah.

01:51:49.600 --> 01:52:00.970
One thing I've, uh, been I guess blessed by or observed here, you know, we're in Fort Collins and Loveland we're kind of the first non-California home of hp.

01:52:01.779 --> 01:52:01.810
Oh.

01:52:01.810 --> 01:52:06.850
And he, Hewlett Packard didn't have an Outof state shop until they did that original thing in Loveland.

01:52:06.850 --> 01:52:08.529
And then the big shop in Fort Collins.

01:52:08.560 --> 01:52:08.920
Okay.

01:52:09.369 --> 01:52:09.710
And over the.

01:52:10.435 --> 01:52:14.604
Last 25 years I've been here, they've laid off a bunch of people.

01:52:15.114 --> 01:52:15.145
Okay.

01:52:15.145 --> 01:52:15.864
Over time.

01:52:15.864 --> 01:52:23.515
And, uh, the number of laid off HP people that decided to buy a small business, because that would be really easy.

01:52:23.689 --> 01:52:25.670
Oh, they're so hosed.

01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:26.270
Right.

01:52:26.409 --> 01:52:28.704
And, and, and they, a lot of'em figure it out.

01:52:28.704 --> 01:52:38.814
But, but hp, you know, for a long time especially, they hired, you know, the best of the brightest and best and, and then they spend years telling them how much smarter than they are, than everybody else.

01:52:38.875 --> 01:52:39.204
Yeah.

01:52:39.354 --> 01:52:41.725
And then they go buy a small business and they're like, fish

01:52:42.895 --> 01:52:43.494
outta water.

01:52:43.500 --> 01:52:43.720
Fuck.

01:52:44.034 --> 01:52:45.444
I was a project manager.

01:52:45.444 --> 01:52:46.585
I had one job.

01:52:46.585 --> 01:52:50.814
And now even though I'm a pretty good project manager, how do I manage 14 jobs?

01:52:50.845 --> 01:52:51.055
Yeah.

01:52:51.085 --> 01:52:52.135
I'm struggling.

01:52:52.194 --> 01:52:52.614
Yeah.

01:52:52.854 --> 01:52:54.295
And, uh, anyway, I was just thinking it's

01:52:54.295 --> 01:52:55.345
not for the faint of heart.

01:52:55.345 --> 01:53:01.555
Like, and I think, here's the thing is if someone would've told me what it really entailed, I would've been like, uh, forget that.

01:53:01.914 --> 01:53:02.185
Right.

01:53:02.185 --> 01:53:03.725
Like, who would sign up for it?

01:53:03.725 --> 01:53:04.944
I'll just find a different place to work instead.

01:53:04.944 --> 01:53:05.760
Who would sign up for that?

01:53:05.829 --> 01:53:08.994
Like, I feel like entrepreneurs have to be somewhat crazy.

01:53:09.895 --> 01:53:10.194
Yeah.

01:53:10.225 --> 01:53:10.795
Or ignorant.

01:53:10.914 --> 01:53:11.095
Yeah.

01:53:11.095 --> 01:53:11.604
I mean, yeah.

01:53:11.635 --> 01:53:12.444
Or, or that too.

01:53:12.595 --> 01:53:12.805
Right.

01:53:14.454 --> 01:53:16.734
But we love'em and, and they're difference makers in the world.

01:53:17.364 --> 01:53:17.604
Exactly.

01:53:18.534 --> 01:53:22.555
What's a, uh, hobby or skill you've always wanted to pick up but never have?

01:53:22.975 --> 01:53:24.354
Oh, to play the ukulele?

01:53:24.359 --> 01:53:26.364
Oh, I have a ukulele.

01:53:26.364 --> 01:53:34.045
You're a second person to me that I have a, I have a ukulele and I was trying to teach myself, um, it over the pandemic, and I just, I don't know what it is.

01:53:34.045 --> 01:53:38.095
Like, I just don't, I don't have a musical, the muscle memory kind of stuff just doesn't really, it's just.

01:53:38.779 --> 01:53:39.685
I, I, I, are you

01:53:39.685 --> 01:53:40.104
sporty?

01:53:40.104 --> 01:53:40.914
Otherwise you Oh,

01:53:40.914 --> 01:53:41.244
yeah.

01:53:41.250 --> 01:53:41.260
Yeah.

01:53:41.395 --> 01:53:45.020
Uh, I did learn, um, during the pandemic, I, the skill that I did learn Yeah.

01:53:45.055 --> 01:53:46.045
Um, was skateboarding.

01:53:46.164 --> 01:53:46.435
Okay.

01:53:46.435 --> 01:53:47.335
So you're coordinated.

01:53:47.335 --> 01:53:47.515
And

01:53:47.515 --> 01:53:48.534
I, I, if you can

01:53:48.534 --> 01:53:50.699
skateboard as an older person, that's impressive.

01:53:50.739 --> 01:53:51.060
I, I've

01:53:51.060 --> 01:53:51.579
skateboarded in heels already.

01:53:51.579 --> 01:53:52.524
I'm not an older person,

01:53:52.560 --> 01:53:52.899
but yeah.

01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:53.220
And

01:53:53.220 --> 01:53:56.845
I have, um, I, and there was this big hill that I was like, I wanna work up to the big hill.

01:53:57.024 --> 01:53:57.414
I wanna work.

01:53:57.625 --> 01:54:01.734
So I've worked up to the Big Hill, and I actually did a Facebook Live while I was on Skateboarding Hill.

01:54:01.734 --> 01:54:02.694
Like, don't recommend this.

01:54:02.694 --> 01:54:03.234
I know folks.

01:54:03.265 --> 01:54:03.534
Okay.

01:54:04.074 --> 01:54:06.414
Um, and then I, I started learning like the little tricks.

01:54:06.414 --> 01:54:08.420
I can do a flip, like, you know what you really, yeah.

01:54:08.574 --> 01:54:08.935
What is it?

01:54:08.939 --> 01:54:10.060
You put the, well, you flip it

01:54:10.060 --> 01:54:10.779
over and you put

01:54:10.779 --> 01:54:13.255
the, uh, skateboard on top of your toes, and then you flip it.

01:54:13.260 --> 01:54:13.340
Yeah.

01:54:13.340 --> 01:54:14.274
And you flip onto it.

01:54:14.274 --> 01:54:14.425
Yeah.

01:54:14.425 --> 01:54:14.904
I can do that.

01:54:15.085 --> 01:54:15.564
That's cool.

01:54:15.835 --> 01:54:17.034
It's super weird with my kids.

01:54:17.095 --> 01:54:20.994
I'm scared to death, but I'm, I'm pretty tall with pointy elbows.

01:54:20.994 --> 01:54:21.835
You're just a little thing.

01:54:21.835 --> 01:54:23.454
You don't fall nearly as far as I would.

01:54:23.574 --> 01:54:24.234
Uh, yeah.

01:54:24.234 --> 01:54:25.164
But I, um, that's cool.

01:54:25.375 --> 01:54:25.555
Yeah.

01:54:25.555 --> 01:54:31.164
I'd say that ukulele, I love, I, I love watching people play the piano and I, I would just love to be able to play the piano.

01:54:31.734 --> 01:54:33.805
I mean, I kind have man hands, so I think I could do it.

01:54:33.805 --> 01:54:36.180
Well, fuck that.

01:54:37.854 --> 01:54:40.704
Well, if you can't, if you can't do a, was it a ukulele?

01:54:40.704 --> 01:54:41.725
Three strings or four?

01:54:41.965 --> 01:54:42.404
No, I know, I know.

01:54:42.404 --> 01:54:46.225
Maybe are you saying maybe not like a piano has a whole bunch of stuff going on there.

01:54:47.335 --> 01:54:48.234
Start with the ukulele.

01:54:48.234 --> 01:54:49.534
Maybe there's like,

01:54:50.020 --> 01:54:50.694
I know, right?

01:54:51.505 --> 01:54:53.335
Um, uh, oh, here's a fun one.

01:54:53.904 --> 01:54:55.975
What is your death row meal?

01:54:56.545 --> 01:54:57.744
They're gonna, oh my gosh.

01:54:57.744 --> 01:54:58.619
Whack at the, of the day.

01:54:58.779 --> 01:54:59.300
I got this planned out.

01:54:59.300 --> 01:54:59.699
Okay, sweet.

01:54:59.960 --> 01:55:00.819
I'm asking, I spent a lot

01:55:00.819 --> 01:55:01.420
of time thinking about that too.

01:55:01.435 --> 01:55:03.925
I'm asking for three months.

01:55:04.750 --> 01:55:05.260
Okay.

01:55:05.319 --> 01:55:05.409
I

01:55:05.409 --> 01:55:08.109
need three months because I have so many favorite meals.

01:55:08.109 --> 01:55:09.699
So I always will say this will be my last

01:55:09.729 --> 01:55:11.380
Oh, so you want 90 death row meals?

01:55:11.409 --> 01:55:11.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:55:12.130 --> 01:55:12.399
For sure.

01:55:12.640 --> 01:55:13.335
Or, or whatever.

01:55:13.630 --> 01:55:14.710
270 if it's three a day.

01:55:14.739 --> 01:55:14.829
Yes.

01:55:14.829 --> 01:55:15.369
Yeah, for sure.

01:55:15.399 --> 01:55:19.659
Like, I mean, I mean, so I have lots of meals that I love and so,

01:55:19.664 --> 01:55:25.960
but you get one No, in this case,'cause the prison doesn't have a budget to give you 90 death row meals or two 70.

01:55:25.960 --> 01:55:26.175
But I've asked

01:55:26.175 --> 01:55:26.710
for 90 days.

01:55:26.920 --> 01:55:27.699
I mean, 30 days.

01:55:27.699 --> 01:55:30.340
They don't care what you want because you killed a bunch of people.

01:55:30.340 --> 01:55:31.659
That's why you're on death row.

01:55:31.689 --> 01:55:31.989
Okay.

01:55:32.409 --> 01:55:36.460
They all took your, your business advice and then killed themselves and it didn't work.

01:55:36.939 --> 01:55:43.060
Saying like, I've, I have direct guidance to say like, I'm gonna have 30 days to like, eat up all the things, but Okay.

01:55:43.210 --> 01:55:44.979
I would probably start with,

01:55:45.069 --> 01:55:46.779
yeah, you could have as many courses as you want.

01:55:46.779 --> 01:55:48.295
I know that's, I'm like up to, up to 12, we'll say.

01:55:48.515 --> 01:55:48.734
Mm.

01:55:49.600 --> 01:55:55.270
I would say like, um, a burrito from this Mexican restaurant in our hometown that we go to on a regular basis.

01:55:55.359 --> 01:55:56.020
It's so delicious.

01:55:56.020 --> 01:55:56.470
Interesting.

01:55:56.619 --> 01:55:59.529
And then with, but just a small portion of it, I, because you don't wanna fill

01:55:59.529 --> 01:55:59.649
up,

01:56:00.220 --> 01:56:03.255
you whatever, like I'm going big, like I'm going out, like I'm pulling out, okay.

01:56:03.475 --> 01:56:05.380
I'm not gonna gain a lot of weight before they kill me.

01:56:05.380 --> 01:56:06.095
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:56:06.220 --> 01:56:08.140
And so a smother with extra green chill.

01:56:08.409 --> 01:56:08.739
Yummy.

01:56:08.770 --> 01:56:08.949
Yeah.

01:56:08.949 --> 01:56:10.989
And then I would go to like a lunch place.

01:56:10.989 --> 01:56:12.279
Like I would have probably sushi.

01:56:12.939 --> 01:56:15.250
Um, and then, oh my gosh.

01:56:16.239 --> 01:56:17.739
Well, you're not going, you're not getting out of present to go to this.

01:56:17.949 --> 01:56:19.029
They're gonna bring you the sushi.

01:56:19.090 --> 01:56:20.529
They're Uber Eats or something.

01:56:20.800 --> 01:56:20.859
Um,

01:56:21.850 --> 01:56:22.239
oh my gosh.

01:56:22.239 --> 01:56:24.729
Any particular kinds of soupy sushi or just a variety?

01:56:24.729 --> 01:56:25.329
The, uh, okay.

01:56:25.329 --> 01:56:26.050
This, this one.

01:56:26.109 --> 01:56:27.970
My favorite sushi is like un sushi.

01:56:28.149 --> 01:56:28.840
My husband's like that.

01:56:28.840 --> 01:56:31.479
It's not even sushi Terry, but so like, it's so delicious.

01:56:31.659 --> 01:56:32.500
Haa sushi.

01:56:32.649 --> 01:56:32.920
Okay.

01:56:32.920 --> 01:56:34.510
Has this orgasm roll.

01:56:34.600 --> 01:56:34.630
Okay.

01:56:35.470 --> 01:56:36.579
And it lives up to its name.

01:56:36.609 --> 01:56:36.850
Okay.

01:56:36.850 --> 01:56:38.229
I'm just saying it's so good.

01:56:38.229 --> 01:56:39.130
It's a baited roll.

01:56:39.220 --> 01:56:39.975
It's baked.

01:56:39.975 --> 01:56:40.255
Okay.

01:56:40.324 --> 01:56:41.170
It's warm.

01:56:41.890 --> 01:56:46.510
Oh, is it kinda like when they do the fish mix things in that white saucy kind of stuff?

01:56:46.510 --> 01:56:47.175
I don't know, but it's so delicious.

01:56:47.215 --> 01:56:47.534
I bet it is.

01:56:47.774 --> 01:56:49.095
I, I forget superhero.

01:56:49.314 --> 01:56:49.694
So delicious.

01:56:49.899 --> 01:56:54.399
Did that, um, it's like a little baked, almost cheesy feeling kind of thing.

01:56:54.399 --> 01:56:54.880
No, not that.

01:56:55.689 --> 01:56:55.899
It's just so delicious.

01:56:55.899 --> 01:56:55.909
Anyway.

01:56:55.909 --> 01:56:55.920
Okay.

01:56:55.920 --> 01:56:56.335
It's just so delicious.

01:56:56.435 --> 01:56:57.670
The orgasm roll from very, it's

01:56:57.670 --> 01:56:58.390
orgasmic.

01:56:58.420 --> 01:57:01.119
It's so, or orgasmic orga come

01:57:01.119 --> 01:57:01.989
with the white sauce.

01:57:02.350 --> 01:57:02.470
Oh,

01:57:07.300 --> 01:57:07.510
kidding.

01:57:08.444 --> 01:57:08.734
Okay.

01:57:08.994 --> 01:57:20.890
So, um, and then, um, oh, and then like, um, at Sushi Den they have this like, crispy, uh, tuna, um, scrump, like sushi, like a fancy roll kind of thing.

01:57:21.220 --> 01:57:23.260
Oh, it's, it's like an appetizer, but it's so, I mean it's Okay.

01:57:24.100 --> 01:57:24.699
So amazing.

01:57:24.729 --> 01:57:27.189
And then, um, Kona Grill.

01:57:27.779 --> 01:57:31.649
Um, they have these amazing, like, this, this would be like an, uh, for dinner.

01:57:31.859 --> 01:57:33.090
We would move into the dinner course.

01:57:33.090 --> 01:57:33.180
Sure.

01:57:33.180 --> 01:57:35.609
And they have these amazing avocado rolls.

01:57:35.729 --> 01:57:36.029
Okay.

01:57:36.029 --> 01:57:38.069
And the secret, so we're sticking heavy

01:57:38.069 --> 01:57:39.149
on the sushi here.

01:57:39.210 --> 01:57:39.449
Oh my gosh.

01:57:39.454 --> 01:57:42.449
After, after a Mexican entre or big starter.

01:57:43.109 --> 01:57:49.680
And then we would go into, and then they have this, they have this, uh, macadamian chicken meal.

01:57:49.979 --> 01:57:50.159
Okay.

01:57:50.159 --> 01:57:53.069
It has potatoes and like whatever their seasoned vegetables.

01:57:53.189 --> 01:57:56.850
Like, so heavenly, like, you wanna lick the plate.

01:57:57.119 --> 01:57:57.479
Okay.

01:57:57.720 --> 01:58:01.260
If you've not had this, I'm not like, you've got like the special, this is Kona still the sh Yeah.

01:58:01.319 --> 01:58:01.710
Kona.

01:58:02.039 --> 01:58:03.000
So that had this like Shwe.

01:58:03.675 --> 01:58:04.015
Is this

01:58:04.109 --> 01:58:04.770
in Denver?

01:58:04.770 --> 01:58:05.430
It's in Denver.

01:58:05.435 --> 01:58:05.494
Okay.

01:58:05.609 --> 01:58:05.760
It's

01:58:05.760 --> 01:58:08.460
in, it's actually in, uh, uh.

01:58:08.489 --> 01:58:09.210
You're writing it down.

01:58:09.210 --> 01:58:09.720
You should go.

01:58:09.720 --> 01:58:09.779
Yeah.

01:58:09.810 --> 01:58:10.590
It's amazing.

01:58:10.979 --> 01:58:13.350
Um, I hope all these people get kickbacks here.

01:58:13.409 --> 01:58:16.770
'cause I'm telling you like, um, not from me.

01:58:17.835 --> 01:58:18.840
So, so good.

01:58:18.869 --> 01:58:20.939
Um, I have this like, delicious sauce.

01:58:20.970 --> 01:58:21.149
Ugh.

01:58:21.149 --> 01:58:23.460
I then this have this like mango parmley.

01:58:23.489 --> 01:58:23.609
Ugh.

01:58:23.939 --> 01:58:24.390
So good.

01:58:24.869 --> 01:58:27.510
Um, and then for dessert, Hmm.

01:58:28.199 --> 01:58:29.310
What are we gonna do with dessert?

01:58:29.310 --> 01:58:29.369
Ugh.

01:58:30.689 --> 01:58:33.300
What is my, I would, I I love slushies.

01:58:33.300 --> 01:58:34.649
This is not, oh, really?

01:58:34.649 --> 01:58:35.489
This makes no sense.

01:58:35.489 --> 01:58:35.850
You're gonna take a

01:58:35.850 --> 01:58:38.609
slushie over like a lava cake or something like that?

01:58:38.609 --> 01:58:38.720
Yes, for sure.

01:58:38.720 --> 01:58:39.420
Like, gimme

01:58:39.420 --> 01:58:42.119
a slushie or gimme a, some give me Or a popsicle.

01:58:42.119 --> 01:58:42.840
Like a lemonade.

01:58:42.989 --> 01:58:43.649
Like a lime.

01:58:43.680 --> 01:58:44.654
Or like, not even real fruit.

01:58:44.654 --> 01:58:50.279
Just, yeah, no, like, I just, I mean, they have those like real, those like real fruit, like ones, uh, the lime or the lemon.

01:58:50.340 --> 01:58:51.390
Just gimme a slushie.

01:58:51.689 --> 01:58:52.800
Like lemon or lime.

01:58:52.805 --> 01:58:52.814
Ugh.

01:58:53.470 --> 01:58:53.890
Yum.

01:58:54.069 --> 01:58:54.399
Alright.

01:58:54.399 --> 01:58:54.670
Yum.

01:58:54.819 --> 01:58:55.210
I dig it.

01:58:56.920 --> 01:59:01.479
Do you wanna say something nice about your husband or your, do you have one daughter?

01:59:01.479 --> 01:59:02.350
We have a one daughter, yep.

01:59:02.380 --> 01:59:02.529
Okay.

01:59:02.979 --> 01:59:04.270
Um, let's talk about that a little bit.

01:59:04.270 --> 01:59:04.750
Your what?

01:59:05.079 --> 01:59:06.670
Tell me about the husband first.

01:59:06.699 --> 01:59:07.119
Uh,

01:59:07.180 --> 01:59:09.039
yeah, we met in college.

01:59:09.069 --> 01:59:09.279
Yep.

01:59:09.284 --> 01:59:11.079
In our, in the very first day.

01:59:11.229 --> 01:59:11.619
Okay.

01:59:11.625 --> 01:59:16.689
Uh, I met, um, in the marriage, uh, we were in, I, I'm taking this part of my degree, it's called the marriage.

01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:21.039
Uh, it was a marriage and family class, and then there was a lot of football players and athletes.

01:59:21.069 --> 01:59:21.310
Right.

01:59:21.310 --> 01:59:22.300
Trying to take the easy classes.

01:59:22.305 --> 01:59:23.260
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

01:59:23.289 --> 01:59:29.529
And like, they waited and he actually waited and then he didn't have choice in elective, and so they got thrown into this class.

01:59:29.920 --> 01:59:33.789
Anyhow, long story we, that we, I stalked him and he stalked me in.

01:59:34.149 --> 01:59:39.579
Uh, it's a long story anyhow, but, um, funny story along that process.

01:59:39.699 --> 01:59:45.130
And then that's, um, so we were the, and my college professor that day, and I had her in lots of classes.

01:59:45.189 --> 01:59:47.289
And so she's like, take a good look around.

01:59:47.289 --> 01:59:49.270
I've had 27 couples meet and marry this class.

01:59:49.720 --> 01:59:54.310
And my roommate Eric looked and like, there's like players maybe, right?

01:59:54.310 --> 01:59:55.449
We're like, there's no one right.

01:59:55.734 --> 02:00:03.354
Anyways, but long story short, we met in her class and um, uh, after our stalking stories fell in love.

02:00:03.354 --> 02:00:05.965
And then we were the 28th couple to meet and Mary my class.

02:00:05.970 --> 02:00:06.149
That's cool.

02:00:06.149 --> 02:00:09.265
And I actually stopped by her office one time and I said, Hey, come and join us.

02:00:09.444 --> 02:00:10.465
And she came to our wedding.

02:00:10.524 --> 02:00:10.585
Oh.

02:00:10.914 --> 02:00:14.574
And she, she, um, knitted an Afghan for us.

02:00:14.725 --> 02:00:15.715
We still have to this day.

02:00:15.774 --> 02:00:15.925
Wow.

02:00:15.984 --> 02:00:16.734
So it's really pretty.

02:00:16.739 --> 02:00:17.279
That's pretty cool.

02:00:17.279 --> 02:00:21.085
And then, um, we have a daughter who is, uh, she's a sophomore in high school.

02:00:21.414 --> 02:00:25.194
Uh, she's competitive in, uh, softball, or I'm sorry, softball.

02:00:25.885 --> 02:00:27.789
And, uh, yeah, so we've been traveling.

02:00:27.789 --> 02:00:28.069
What position?

02:00:28.585 --> 02:00:30.204
Uh, she plays outfield.

02:00:30.564 --> 02:00:32.784
Um, catch and, and third.

02:00:32.965 --> 02:00:33.295
Cool.

02:00:33.534 --> 02:00:33.685
Yeah.

02:00:33.685 --> 02:00:34.944
That's a pretty wide spectrum.

02:00:35.064 --> 02:00:35.454
Yeah.

02:00:35.545 --> 02:00:39.324
Usually the outfielders are there because they can't get down on a grounder.

02:00:39.505 --> 02:00:39.774
Yeah.

02:00:39.774 --> 02:00:39.895
First.

02:00:39.895 --> 02:00:41.784
But if she's playing third first she gets down on the grounder.

02:00:41.784 --> 02:00:41.875
I

02:00:41.875 --> 02:00:42.024
know.

02:00:42.024 --> 02:00:45.925
So she was first catcher and third and then during high school.

02:00:45.954 --> 02:00:46.194
Yeah.

02:00:46.255 --> 02:00:49.555
We knew that she wouldn't, that she was a freshman lettering.

02:00:49.560 --> 02:00:49.750
Right, right.

02:00:49.750 --> 02:00:51.505
And so we're like, we're she's not playing in field.

02:00:51.510 --> 02:00:51.744
Right, right.

02:00:51.744 --> 02:00:52.345
At that situation.

02:00:52.345 --> 02:00:57.145
And so she played in outfield and it was funny'cause like the day everyone's like, oh my gosh, we love your daughter.

02:00:57.295 --> 02:00:57.895
She's so good.

02:00:57.895 --> 02:00:59.425
Like, how long have you She's been playing outfield.

02:00:59.425 --> 02:01:00.564
I'm like, um, four days.

02:01:00.744 --> 02:01:00.835
Right.

02:01:01.435 --> 02:01:01.585
She's

02:01:01.585 --> 02:01:02.149
never done it before.

02:01:02.289 --> 02:01:02.510
But

02:01:02.515 --> 02:01:03.625
she's a, she's a great athlete.

02:01:03.625 --> 02:01:05.484
That's, she like picks things up and she's, she's great.

02:01:05.484 --> 02:01:06.024
So Awesome.

02:01:06.024 --> 02:01:14.635
But we've been, so we just, uh, our time is spent like, we either chasing her around the country, like seriously, like she does club and so, and someone goes like, when's the off season?

02:01:14.635 --> 02:01:15.145
Did it just end?

02:01:15.145 --> 02:01:16.824
I'm like, no, it just started like, we have like one month.

02:01:16.975 --> 02:01:17.664
December is off.

02:01:18.175 --> 02:01:18.534
That's it.

02:01:18.654 --> 02:01:18.925
So

02:01:18.939 --> 02:01:22.510
yeah, she optimistic to go to school and keep playing softball too.

02:01:22.510 --> 02:01:22.520
Yeah.

02:01:22.555 --> 02:01:23.454
She wants to play.

02:01:23.545 --> 02:01:23.784
She

02:01:23.784 --> 02:01:24.595
has a couple places.

02:01:24.595 --> 02:01:28.314
Like she has a, funny enough, Emporia is one of her like.

02:01:28.975 --> 02:01:31.164
It's not her top, but it's one of, because like they Yeah.

02:01:31.170 --> 02:01:31.420
That's pretty cool though.

02:01:31.479 --> 02:01:33.324
She has a, she wants to do sports medicine.

02:01:33.354 --> 02:01:33.414
Yeah.

02:01:33.414 --> 02:01:35.904
And they have like one of the best programs in there.

02:01:35.994 --> 02:01:38.515
Well, and what a neat thing it would be to be that close to her.

02:01:38.515 --> 02:01:40.585
The, the deeper roots Yeah.

02:01:40.585 --> 02:01:40.614
Kind of thing.

02:01:40.614 --> 02:01:40.635
For sure.

02:01:40.635 --> 02:01:42.324
You know, and experience that kind of lifestyle.

02:01:42.564 --> 02:01:42.835
Small.

02:01:43.135 --> 02:01:43.435
And we have lots of family like

02:01:43.914 --> 02:01:44.515
my brother-in-law.

02:01:44.515 --> 02:01:44.664
Yeah.

02:01:44.664 --> 02:01:45.055
And plus you

02:01:45.055 --> 02:01:49.314
got a place to eat all the time and wash your clothes if you need to, whatever.

02:01:49.520 --> 02:01:51.234
But it's, but it's not that far.

02:01:51.234 --> 02:01:53.395
But she's also looking at South Carolina too, so that's even farther.

02:01:53.425 --> 02:01:53.739
Yeah, I know.

02:01:53.739 --> 02:01:53.760
I know.

02:01:54.204 --> 02:01:55.225
But, we'll, we'll, we'll move.

02:01:55.225 --> 02:01:58.494
We're gonna, we're gonna be when she leaves, we'll we'll move with her by that

02:01:58.494 --> 02:01:58.914
time.

02:01:58.914 --> 02:01:59.215
Yeah.

02:01:59.335 --> 02:02:03.204
I mean, talking with Terry's gonna be nationwide syndication, so you can live wherever you want.

02:02:03.204 --> 02:02:04.074
Thank you for speaking life.

02:02:04.284 --> 02:02:05.725
Rent, super expensive studios.

02:02:05.725 --> 02:02:06.774
If you want whatever.

02:02:06.774 --> 02:02:07.345
Buy one love.

02:02:07.375 --> 02:02:10.675
Probably buy one former Nashville Sound Studio.

02:02:10.675 --> 02:02:15.354
You can just pick that up with a little bit of the royal royalties that are flowing in from all the, I love it.

02:02:15.984 --> 02:02:16.375
Amazing.

02:02:16.375 --> 02:02:17.545
Successful businesses.

02:02:18.114 --> 02:02:18.475
I love it.

02:02:18.475 --> 02:02:18.505
I love it.

02:02:18.744 --> 02:02:19.375
I'll take more of that

02:02:19.465 --> 02:02:21.385
last, uh, last question.

02:02:21.385 --> 02:02:28.704
The loco experience, the craziest experience of your lifetime that you're willing to share with our listeners.

02:03:12.940 --> 02:03:14.860
The craziest and crazy might be near death.

02:03:14.860 --> 02:03:20.261
It might be ironic, it might be God surprising or, I don't know.

02:03:20.650 --> 02:03:24.400
I'm an adventurist, so my first brain goes to like that.

02:03:24.430 --> 02:03:24.671
Okay.

02:03:25.091 --> 02:03:25.780
Um.

02:03:26.860 --> 02:03:28.961
Um, craziest experience.

02:03:29.501 --> 02:03:33.850
Um, so I, I just love adrenaline, so I, I try to test myself.

02:03:33.850 --> 02:03:35.320
So, um, hence the squirrel

02:03:35.320 --> 02:03:35.560
suit.

02:03:35.921 --> 02:03:36.190
Yeah.

02:03:36.190 --> 02:03:36.911
And you're like, hello?

02:03:37.001 --> 02:03:38.350
I do, I do actually wanna do that.

02:03:38.350 --> 02:03:39.100
That's in Germany.

02:03:39.761 --> 02:03:40.810
I, um, you can do the squirrel suit.

02:03:40.810 --> 02:03:41.020
Really?

02:03:41.020 --> 02:03:41.621
In Germany?

02:03:41.621 --> 02:03:42.041
Yeah.

02:03:42.341 --> 02:03:46.751
Like for real, like, you jump off buildings and you have a squirrel, like, not kidding you.

02:03:47.020 --> 02:03:49.570
Like, do they have like a, a safety feature?

02:03:49.570 --> 02:03:49.720
A

02:03:49.746 --> 02:03:50.105
I don't know.

02:03:50.105 --> 02:03:53.081
The one videos, the videos I've seen, is it, is it a tandem thing

02:03:53.081 --> 02:03:54.551
where they jump on airplanes, tandem?

02:03:54.551 --> 02:03:54.640
They're

02:03:54.640 --> 02:03:58.600
like, the ones I've seen are like people jumping off cliffs and doing it outside.

02:03:58.661 --> 02:04:01.841
I they have a big net just in case Keep your wings closed.

02:04:01.841 --> 02:04:01.985
I don't know.

02:04:01.985 --> 02:04:03.341
That's the, they just have some training for

02:04:03.761 --> 02:04:03.791
facilit.

02:04:03.791 --> 02:04:03.801
Yeah.

02:04:03.801 --> 02:04:03.810
Yeah.

02:04:03.850 --> 02:04:04.121
Like that.

02:04:04.150 --> 02:04:07.331
I enjoy watching those videos though, where people are like, okay, here we go.

02:04:07.961 --> 02:04:08.230
Yeah.

02:04:08.261 --> 02:04:17.470
So I've done, I've done skydiving, um, three times and the first one was really, I mean, it all had like unique things, but I've, I've done skydiving, I've driven race cars.

02:04:17.530 --> 02:04:17.801
Mm.

02:04:17.860 --> 02:04:28.506
Swam with dolphins, um, know hot air balloons, the jumped off the cliff and did, um, paragliding and parasailing and like, did you ever

02:04:28.506 --> 02:04:31.930
feel like your life was in danger at any of those experiences?

02:04:32.921 --> 02:04:33.520
No.

02:04:33.520 --> 02:04:37.270
I mean, it's, it's, the, the skydiving was, um, terrifying the very first time Okay.

02:04:37.270 --> 02:04:37.871
That I did it.

02:04:38.261 --> 02:04:41.320
Um, because I was like, you just didn't know what to expect.

02:04:41.381 --> 02:04:41.801
Right.

02:04:41.801 --> 02:04:41.860
Yeah.

02:04:42.011 --> 02:04:47.801
And, um, and it was just like, and I thought it was gonna be like all cute and getting on them be like, Hey, and this is me.

02:04:47.801 --> 02:04:49.121
Like I have the worst fear face.

02:04:49.150 --> 02:04:49.451
'cause I'm like.

02:04:51.280 --> 02:04:53.291
Like getting out and I'm like, all, oh my gosh.

02:04:53.291 --> 02:04:56.081
It was pretty funny, but I, I mean, it was, it was terrifying.

02:04:56.201 --> 02:05:01.211
That was, um, and then like I did it again with my husband and then we did it again with my mom.

02:05:01.301 --> 02:05:01.451
Oh, wow.

02:05:01.600 --> 02:05:06.730
Um, and the last time it was really fun because like they had to keep going up because the winds were too windy.

02:05:06.730 --> 02:05:06.761
Mm.

02:05:07.390 --> 02:05:07.945
Um, so you had to get

02:05:08.051 --> 02:05:09.131
above the windy part.

02:05:09.131 --> 02:05:09.341
Yeah.

02:05:09.341 --> 02:05:10.841
And so it kept going up and I'm like, yes.

02:05:11.185 --> 02:05:13.390
And I never, I never understood white knuckling.

02:05:13.390 --> 02:05:15.341
I never really understood that concept.

02:05:15.345 --> 02:05:15.546
Yeah.

02:05:15.551 --> 02:05:15.761
Yeah.

02:05:15.820 --> 02:05:19.091
Until I saw it in action, my mom was like, white knuckling it.

02:05:19.185 --> 02:05:20.770
I was like, Ooh, that's what that means.

02:05:21.100 --> 02:05:21.490
Oh my gosh.

02:05:21.490 --> 02:05:21.730
Yeah.

02:05:22.060 --> 02:05:31.180
I saw a short video clip yesterday on the internet somewhere, and it was somebody testing out their new, um, Chinese parachute off of Amazon.

02:05:31.331 --> 02:05:31.990
Oh dear.

02:05:32.376 --> 02:05:33.070
That I would do that.

02:05:33.070 --> 02:05:33.280
And it

02:05:33.280 --> 02:05:38.621
literally just had handles kind of like, oh, you know, the stretchy bands that you can work out with and stuff.

02:05:38.621 --> 02:05:38.980
Oh yeah.

02:05:39.011 --> 02:05:44.621
It had like a pair of those kind of handles and then the, the para glide material and stuff.

02:05:44.650 --> 02:05:44.810
And yeah.

02:05:45.251 --> 02:05:52.600
So he's got this video go, he is like, okay, I opened it and he is like holding onto with two hands and then one of the side snaps right away.

02:05:53.110 --> 02:05:53.261
Oh no.

02:05:53.740 --> 02:05:57.251
He was wearing a regular parachute too, under the assumption that the

02:05:57.701 --> 02:05:58.270
Oh dear Chinese

02:05:58.270 --> 02:06:04.001
parachute was, and then he is like trying to hold onto it so he can keep the evidence and it's like hanging up there.

02:06:04.001 --> 02:06:13.511
But he is got his main shoot out and he finally, anyway, it was a pretty cool video, just like hope nobody buys a parachute on Amazon thinking that they should use it.

02:06:13.511 --> 02:06:15.551
Hopefully nobody would buy a parachute that you can.

02:06:16.301 --> 02:06:19.480
You is holding onto That seems like an unsustainable.

02:06:19.661 --> 02:06:19.791
Yeah, sustain.

02:06:19.810 --> 02:06:22.180
Like, I could only hang onto a bar for like a minute, you know?

02:06:22.451 --> 02:06:24.220
I'm not gonna hang onto a parish for 10.

02:06:24.850 --> 02:06:25.451
Oh my goodness.

02:06:25.451 --> 02:06:25.930
Anyway, I

02:06:25.930 --> 02:06:26.411
digress.

02:06:26.591 --> 02:06:26.890
Yeah.

02:06:26.951 --> 02:06:28.871
So not one of those though, or No, I

02:06:28.871 --> 02:06:30.100
didn't have any near, like,

02:06:30.190 --> 02:06:30.640
nothing

02:06:31.001 --> 02:06:32.320
like a near death experience.

02:06:33.070 --> 02:06:33.640
Is that what you're asking?

02:06:33.640 --> 02:06:33.791
Yeah.

02:06:33.791 --> 02:06:34.390
Or whatever.

02:06:34.390 --> 02:06:37.541
When I, when I say what's a crazy experience that you've had in your lifetime.

02:06:37.541 --> 02:06:37.551
Yeah.

02:06:37.551 --> 02:06:37.570
A crazy

02:06:37.570 --> 02:06:37.886
experience.

02:06:37.930 --> 02:06:38.291
Yeah.

02:06:38.350 --> 02:06:38.890
Um,

02:06:40.150 --> 02:06:41.921
I mean, the whole shark alligators.

02:06:42.041 --> 02:06:42.940
I mean, that wasn't, yeah.

02:06:42.940 --> 02:06:44.110
That wasn't really real.

02:06:44.110 --> 02:06:45.280
Um, business betrayals.

02:06:45.310 --> 02:06:45.371
Yeah.

02:06:45.371 --> 02:06:45.381
Yeah.

02:06:45.430 --> 02:06:46.661
All of that kind of stuff.

02:06:46.666 --> 02:06:47.055
All that stuff.

02:06:47.060 --> 02:06:52.091
Um, yeah, like, um, yeah, I would just say like the adventures piece of it.

02:06:52.240 --> 02:06:56.051
Um, gosh.

02:06:56.051 --> 02:06:56.320
Yeah.

02:06:56.320 --> 02:07:05.831
I mean, I'm trying to think of like, I mean, I, I biffed it one time we were skateboarding and like, I like wiped myself out, jacked myself up real good.

02:07:06.190 --> 02:07:06.220
Okay.

02:07:06.220 --> 02:07:10.570
Ripped through the, you know, whipped through my pants and all that.

02:07:10.570 --> 02:07:11.320
And, you know,

02:07:11.381 --> 02:07:13.631
well, I think even learning how to skateboard as.

02:07:14.246 --> 02:07:16.555
Uh, however old of a person you are.

02:07:16.555 --> 02:07:16.565
Yes.

02:07:16.565 --> 02:07:17.480
And mother and life.

02:07:17.480 --> 02:07:17.490
Yes.

02:07:17.490 --> 02:07:17.636
I, I'm

02:07:17.636 --> 02:07:19.015
39 since you asked

02:07:19.015 --> 02:07:19.435
still.

02:07:21.926 --> 02:07:27.145
So last year I, I celebrated my 40th birthday and then I, I this, and then now you're going backwards.

02:07:27.206 --> 02:07:28.015
I'm just going backwards.

02:07:28.136 --> 02:07:31.496
So, last year, and my, and all my friends were like, you're turning 40.

02:07:31.555 --> 02:07:37.515
And like, they were so,'cause I, I just picked a number and, um, and so then I was like, well, this year I'm gonna be 39 and da da, da.

02:07:37.975 --> 02:07:39.265
I'm really not 40 either.

02:07:39.445 --> 02:07:40.496
I'm not gonna tell you that.

02:07:40.645 --> 02:07:43.076
Like, but I was like, but it just keeps them guessing, right?

02:07:43.105 --> 02:07:43.286
Yeah.

02:07:43.586 --> 02:07:44.036
41.

02:07:44.185 --> 02:07:44.515
Yeah.

02:07:44.756 --> 02:07:45.371
I'm 39,

02:07:45.371 --> 02:07:46.801
38 next year.

02:07:46.801 --> 02:07:47.201
38.

02:07:47.400 --> 02:07:47.720
I know, right?

02:07:49.195 --> 02:07:49.555
I will

02:07:49.555 --> 02:07:50.126
be, I'll be, thank you.

02:07:50.341 --> 02:07:50.560
See,

02:07:50.990 --> 02:07:52.881
well, I gave you kudos for, so I'll tell you this.

02:07:52.881 --> 02:07:53.996
Picking up that skateboard for sure.

02:07:53.996 --> 02:07:54.115
Yeah.

02:07:54.115 --> 02:07:54.265
Well,

02:07:54.265 --> 02:07:54.746
I'll tell you this.

02:07:54.746 --> 02:08:05.246
Like, um, my, um, one of my, my office manager, she was, she was se she was 70 and she looked, she, she looked 50 and she acted like she was 40.

02:08:05.251 --> 02:08:05.440
Yeah.

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And one of the things that I took away from her is just like, you know, life is too short to take it so seriously.

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And like, I just, um, I just, I, I said I, I'm going to embody that.

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Hmm.

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When you see those videos on those like 80, those like women, they're like 80 or 90 Sure.

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Doing all the things like that lady that was really so Sophia Lauren,

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I mean, just

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like when, whenever like, whenever they're doing like, I was like, I wanna be that person.

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Yeah.

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Like Revo McIntyre.

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Yeah.

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What is she doing?

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I

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don't know, but she's, she's just like, she looks great for 80 or whatever.

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She must be by now, 70.

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Like, you

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know what, let's go do this.

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Let's, let's go, let's go.

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And they do stuff.

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Yeah.

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Like, let's go do this.

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Like, so I, you know, I'm, I always with my daughter, I'm like, let's just go like, do this.

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And I'm always like the one who's pushing like the Yeah.

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The fun.

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And like, let's go do this and let's go try this and let's go.

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I have, I have a theory that like, worry is probably the fastest age accelerant.

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Yeah.

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Fear.

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Yeah.

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Fear and worry.

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For sure.

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The Bible says that more than it says anything else is fear not or worry not

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fill.

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I think there was like, it's like, it's like in there, like 300 or times.

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Yeah.

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I'm like at least numbers.

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Yeah.

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Fear not.

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And,

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and it's because I think, you know, it's, it's, well, it separates you from mm-hmm.

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God, that energy source, however your perception of spirituality is, I think fear is definitely a divider from that.

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Yeah.

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And, and, and ability.

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Yeah.

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Um, and

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the opposite of that is love.

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Right?

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And so going into the place of love.

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Right.

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So love.

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Yes.

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Fear not,

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that's right.

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No.

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Yeah.

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I just like, I think we can,

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and I guess Jesus said that effectively as well, right?

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Like, that's the two commandments.

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Love God with all your heart, mind, and strength and love your neighbor as yourself.

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So years ago, I, um, as, as a therapist, we learned that, you know, there's, we're only born with two fears.

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Okay.

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That's it.

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Do you know what they're

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snakes?

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No.

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And, uh, losing my mommy?

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No.

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Uh, they were born with two fears and that is the, the fear of loud noises.

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Okay.

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And the sensation of falling.

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Hmm.

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So, and I realized that I was like, I was so afraid of heights and I was like, okay, fair enough.

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That kind of goes in there.

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But I was like, my, I had so many friends that were not afraid of heights.

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So I started, um, going through like getting outta my comfort zone.

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And so when I was, you know, gosh, when we first moved out here, I was in my early twenties and I was like, you know what?

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I'm gonna do something every day to scare me and I'm gonna do something to get outta my comfort zone.

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Right.

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And so then it started with little things and then like big things.

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And it's like, you know, d different types of food and different types of ventures and dah, dah, dah, dah.

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And I just have always tried to push that envelope

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Yeah.

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Of like, you know,

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if it scares me, I'm gonna do it.

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I'm gonna do it.

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And so,

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and I'll be, and I'll be like, and what, where that has come up in business Yep.

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Is that like, I ran a marathon one time and I'm like, if I can run that, I can do this.

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And so I connect those.

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I'm like, I jumped out of a plane, I can do this.

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This is this, I can do this.

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And so it just expands that.

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And, and also when I die, I want to, on my gravestone, I want to be like laughed passionately, lived passionately, like, gave loved fully, passionately, like just all this like, did it passionately.

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And like when I am done, I am done.

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And I have tried everything.

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I've tasted everything.

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I've experienced everything.

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Yep.

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Because of that curiosity, I ran the race

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all the way.

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Yeah.

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And like,

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I, like I loved this life, you know, and did and I,

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I just thought of something you might fear.

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Um, size That bottle that are on the counter is our infinity bottle.

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Oh, okay.

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And it gets a, a half shot of every bottle that comes through the studio.

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So there's Oh dear.

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Rye whiskey, there's tequila, there's gin, there's bourbon in there.

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Um, okay.

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If you wanna do a quick toaster, the cool kids do it at the end of the show sometimes.

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I mean, I'll,

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I then let's

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do a half shot.

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Let's do it.

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Let's do it.

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I'm in fear not.

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Fear not.

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Let's do this.

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Um, it doesn't seem, uh, it doesn't seem that bad.

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No, I mean, it's not that bad.

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It's actually given the fact that it is a concoction of at least, oops, this one's got, so it's not gonna,

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so it's not gonna taste like, uh, uh Oh.

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What's the butter?

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The peanut butter one.

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Oh, the screwball

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the screw.

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It's not gonna taste like

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screwball.

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No, it's not gonna taste like screw ball.

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That's, that's just a little wee.

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We taste there for you.

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I'm

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just saying like, that would be, I, I, I should have brought some,

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it would be nice if it tasted like screwball.

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Um, but you'll, the biggest thing I, I, I taste the bourbon and the little tequila and then the gin.

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Yeah.

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I, I taste the floral tequila.

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Nature.

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The gin shines through the Right.

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Cheers my friend.

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Cheers.

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Thanks for being here.

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Yeah.

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Thanks for having me.

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Hmm.

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It's not, you're getting a little squi.

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Okay.

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I feel like a dragon now.

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A ninja mermaid dragon

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with a

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squirrel suit.

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Tell the, tell people.

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How do they find, uh, talking with Terry is, uh, do they go to the YouTube?

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Do they go to, your website is the best place.

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Go to website, go

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to the website.

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Everything's hosted there.

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Talking with Teri.

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That's TER i.com.

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Mm-hmm.

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And then foot, you can find me on all those socials.

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Cool.

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Would you like another, um, you what?

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I'm not sure what that was, but um, I will kindly respectfully pass.

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Okay.

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Well, we'll save some for future guests.

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I

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mean, I don't wanna be, I don't wanna be selfish.

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Thanks for being here.

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Thank you.

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Cut.

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Speed.