EXPERIENCE 217 | Community, Support, and Continuous Improvement with Wade Keith, Partner & Brand Manager of Breeze Thru Car Wash

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Wade Keith grew up in Alabama and came to Colorado as a raft guide, but after he found love and wanted to start a family, he decided to pursue a professional career.

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This journey included stops at Enterprise Rent-A-Car, odells, tap Room, OtterBox, and now approaching 15 years working at the car wash, but not just any car Wash Breeze Through Car Wash.

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The Dominant Membership Car Wash Club in Northern Colorado.

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Wade is now a partner in the business and serves as the brand manager and is also a community ambassador of sorts, and he is a very insightful guy.

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This episode digs into the business of washing cars, the capital investment, the recycling of water, the continuous finding, and developing of entry level employees and the heart of Wade's.

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Why in finding joy in this journey?

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Wade's journey was heavily impacted by a health scare.

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Early in his relationship with his wife in which an infection nearly severed his spine and left him unable still to do some of the things he loves.

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But he finds joy in his work and in his music and in his family, and you'll hear about all of those things and more.

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So please join me in enjoying my conversation with Wade Keith.

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Welcome to the Low-Code Experience Podcast.

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I'm here today with Wade Keith, and Wade is the brand manager and partner at Breeze Through Car Wash.

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Thanks for having me, Kurt.

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Appreciate it.

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Thanks for being here, Wade.

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Um, so let's start with those boots.

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Actually, uh, Durango Boots is not a sponsor of this show, but you were gonna give them a ringing endorsement for me.

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Oh yeah.

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I mean, I've, I've had so many different pairs of boots over the years and then, but every single one of'em hurt.

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So I finally found a pair where I can wear'em all day.

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I mean, I, I mean, I literally live in these things.

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They got tread on the bottom too.

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They got like a rubber sole, so it's.

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Different than a lot of cowboy boots are kind of smooth.

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So almost replaceable.

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Are those not replaceable?

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Oh, I don't, I, I'm not real sure, but haven't worn'em out yet.

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Yeah, I think, I think, and I think that's why they're so comfortable is, uh, because of the, the, the bottom of this.

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I mean, all the other boots that I've had are just, they're hard and they hurt.

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Yeah.

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But these work, these work, these are good.

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I will always buy these forever and always.

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Okay.

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Well I dig it.

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Plus you get a nice little, like one and a quarter inch lift there.

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Oh yeah.

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I mean, I'm just trying to get taller every day.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, I guess let's just, uh, start with the, uh, basic question.

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What does a brand manager do?

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I don't think I know that many brand managers.

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Oh man.

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Well this is so funny'cause we had this conversation earlier today, like, uh, a brand manager that I know and, and, and I think about my buddy, uh, Chris Cox here in town.

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He's, uh, he's one of my best friends.

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It sounds like he made, he's been on the podcast actually.

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Oh, has he?

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I believe the, the, the CBD store and No, no, no.

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This is a different guy.

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This is the, this is the guy that's a singer in our band.

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Okay.

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Uh, he's a real good friend of mine and, uh, and he's, I mean, he's a like a traditional brand manager.

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So like he, when somebody starts a business.

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They have to build out the brand, first of all.

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So, um, I've taken a lot of notes from him, but, uh, I kind of think of a brand manager more of his role.

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So he, he, he puts together all the graphics, builds out the brand standards guides.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This is the fonts, this is what it's supposed to look like, the colors.

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Yeah.

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We've done a little bit of that with local over.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And you've got very good branding.

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I love your logos.

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It props to you guys.

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Uh, and I think of a brand manager more of that, and, um, in his, you know, the role he does, I, I mean I'm always bouncing ideas off of him, but builds out the brand, what it's supposed to look like, what it's supposed to feel like, strategy behind it.

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Um, that's kinda like your traditional brand manager.

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Yeah.

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And then they, those types of brand managers turn that over to, uh, marketing and advertising.

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So they give the assets to somebody else and then they do the advertising.

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Right.

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Um, but in like my role, I'm kind of responsible for all of it.

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I'm responsible for, you know, coming up with, is that your logo?

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Yeah.

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And, and this is something that was developed before me.

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Uh, my role now is I just kind of, every couple years I enhance it a little bit.

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But we build out the brand, what it's supposed to look like, how consistent it's supposed to be.

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But in my role, we're also responsible for the advertising piece of it as well.

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Okay.

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So, uh, it really kinda depends on you, uh, uh, who you ask, but in my mind, like a brand manager's more builds out the brands for other people and then turns the, the turns that over to somebody to do advertising.

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We kind of do a combo package.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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In my role specifically.

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Well, and I know that you're also pretty involved with the team and internal comms and things like that as well, so that sounds more an expansion still on the brand, or is that part of completing the brand?

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Well, I, I think it's unique to like, small business.

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Right?

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Right.

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You know, I mean, in small business you have to wear multiple different hats, uh, you know, for a while, you know, and so it, you know, I'm part of, I do the advertising, the community involvement.

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Our department's also responsible for the back end of the membership program that we offer.

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Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, but I'm also on the leadership team as well and we, we develop a lot of strategy and, you know, planning and that sort of thing.

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Let's, uh, let's set the stage a little bit with breeze through car wash because it's become like over the last.

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15 ish years, maybe less than that, but has really grown a lot to become kind of the dominant, like the only regional brand I would say in a lot of ways in the car wash industry, Northern Colorado and maybe beyond.

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Yeah.

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We're, we're, we're in, uh, Cheyenne.

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Okay.

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As well as here.

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We have, um, we're gonna be expanding.

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Okay.

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I can't, can't let everything out the bag yet until the building's built, but, uh, we will be expanding, but it's been a, been a good deal for me.

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Um, never in my life did I think I'd be working in the car wash industry.

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What, and did you sing it a lot when you like first got going and stuff?

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I, that is the theme song of the industry.

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It's kinda like, it's kinda like, uh, playing sweet home Alabama.

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When you're from Alabama.

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It's like you play it so much.

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Right.

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So when you go to the car wash stuff, it's, you almost don't hear it.

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Yeah.

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But something that's unique about the car wash industry, and I've heard this a lot over the years, is like, you don't find the car wash industry.

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The car wash industry finds you.

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And that's exactly what happened to me when I moved out here.

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Um, I had actually, I was a, I was a RAF guide, um, canyon City, um Okay.

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On the Arkansas River.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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Met my wife.

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I was like, wow, you're cool.

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And she was, I wish I made enough money to keep you.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, she, she had a good, stable job.

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And I'm sitting here just scrounging.

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I was living the dirt bag, RAF guide life, you know, I was voluntarily homeless for like seven months living outta the back of my truck, you know?

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And that's, and then wasn't the skiing in the off season?

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I, from rafting?

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No, I didn't do that piece.

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I, I didn't do that piece.

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I went back home.

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But, uh, I met her and she was moving to Fort Collins.

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I never even heard of Fort Collins.

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Uh, all the other raft guides were talking about Fort Collins is Fort Collins at, so I had to check it out.

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Helped her move up here at the end of the season, uh, fell in love with her, fell in love with the area.

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And then, um, it, I'd already graduated college and so I got a job at, uh, enterprise Rent a car.

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And I worked there for a while.

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Okay.

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And I.

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And um, and then I moved a, another local brewery in town and that kind of stuff.

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But because I was working there, they were building a car wash down the street and developed a relationship with majority owners at that time.

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Oh.

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And they had always been wanting me to come work for'em and I was always like, I don't, I don't wanna work at the wash.

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They just thought you were a charming guy, like getting bar at the brewery or whatever you was that, what were you doing for the brewery?

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Um, I was working public facing.

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Yeah.

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I was working in the tap room.

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Right.

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I had, uh, I was kind of done with enterprise, worked over at Odell Brewery, which Yep.

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Yep.

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And, uh, worked over there in the tap room for a while and, uh, he, he came knocking and, you know, said, we want you to come work for us.

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And I said, okay, I'll come work at a car wash.

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And it is been just like, why?

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'cause they were offering you more money than working at the, or just upward advancement opportunity.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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More of that being wanted.

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Yeah.

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Being wanted.

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I actually, I actually was like, yeah, I'll try this out.

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Yeah.

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See what's happening, you know, and, and so I did.

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And uh, and did you have a marketing degree or?

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I, I did have a marketing degree.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And what's what's interesting about that is like, I got it a long time ago and then, and I mean it, and I didn't You use my you it for 10 years?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I did all these other things where I didn't do anything with marketing or advertising.

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And it's funny, like all this stuff you see today was not even developed when I had my marketing degree.

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Sure.

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So, I mean, I kinda had to relearn how to do all that stuff.

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So I spent.

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About two years.

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Really.

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Like, really like, like hammering home, relearning how to do advertising, marketing.

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And when was this?

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Can you circle me?

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Oh, geez.

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Um, let's see, 2000, oh, 15 years ago.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Ish.

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2010.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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There you go.

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Ishish.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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2010.

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Fair.

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Okay.

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But, uh, I mean, I started off at the, in the car wash.

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I was just directing people in, being a customer service attendant.

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Okay.

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And then, and then one of the majority owners decided to retire, and I was like, Hey, uh, I have a degree.

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And I'm also a pretty creative guy.

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Yeah.

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And that's, that's when I moved into that position.

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And did you buy in right away?

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Like they let you Um, not right away.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it took a little bit of time.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know, you, we, we like to, you know, promote from within and then be established before that offer.

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And how big was the company at this time?

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About four locations.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And was ground level.

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Yeah.

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We're at 15 now, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So what were those four locations?

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Do you remember?

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Um, or, or two flag.

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I always say two flagships, but, uh, the one on Mulberry for Cols.

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Sure.

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That's one I all go to.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's right down the street from here.

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Yep.

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Uh, Cheyenne Del Range.

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Uh, we had one in Longmont, it still do, it's Camp Pratt.

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Okay.

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And then our Greeley location.

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Oh, so you had like a big widespread and then started filling in to.

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Be more kind of between those spots from there.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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We like to offer the additional value of having locations close to one another so you can use your pass at any of the locations.

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Yeah.

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It's, it's a, it's a pretty good benefit that we offer.

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Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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I, I should actually do a, a, a breeze through tour sometime and just go see how Is the flagship still the flagship or are there some nicer ones?

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Uh, I mean if Mulberry's always gonna be It, that was the first one.

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You know, our second one came not too long after that in Dell Range and Cheyenne, but I'd love to give you a tour.

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We had, uh, the Fort Collins Running Club come out the other day'cause we're a sponsor of the, uh, horse tooth half marathon.

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Yeah.

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We did a practice run and, and one of the guys, Chris was there.

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He, uh, he was really into seeing the back, back end of everything.

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So I, I gave him a tour of the site and he, and he was really in interested in the equipment, that kind of stuff.

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Yeah.

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And it was, it was pretty cool, man.

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He was, was really excited about, he's got car wash business too.

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Yeah.

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He might even be looking at it right now.

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But yeah, we gave him a tour and he loved it.

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It's interesting.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That is really an interesting benefit.

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Like, and it's a funny thing because it's part of like, obviously I'm, I'm a shopper of convenience, you know, and so if another car wash moved even closer from my office to breeze through, I would consider it.

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But that's about the only thing I would consider.

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But I do find value in the fact that you're a regional brand and I can go to any of those breeze throughs and I never ever do it.

00:11:59.698 --> 00:12:00.089
Well, yeah.

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What, what is your, do you have data on that?

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Like when people do you, do you track that at all?

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Like, do we track who do you know when somebody that usually goes to Mulberry goes to Harmony or to Longmont and gets their car wash?

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We do track it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, we do track it.

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We, we see some statistics.

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It says this is your home site.

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Yep.

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And these are the other sites that you visit.

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Some people are probably all over.

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They're like real estate agents in the region and they just go to the breeze through whenever they see one, almost.

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So they always get a fresh car.

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Well, it's a, it's interesting you say that'cause I always think about a persona of like a real estate agent who their, their reflection of their own personal brand as the way that their car looks.

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Totally.

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They're putting people in a car all the time.

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Or you think about Uber or Lyft, we were just talking about it a minute ago.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you know, you, you, oh for sure your, your reflection of your brand.

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You should charge those guys more and mean less.

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'cause I'm like a once every 10 days to two weeks, if I remember You said it, not me.

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Well, you know, it, it was interesting.

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Some car wash companies don't allow ride shares to, to be a part of their program.

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I mean, they probably do now because the car wash industry's become so competitive.

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People are building all over the place.

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Mm-hmm.

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We actually have a lot of outstate competition coming in right now too.

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Oh, is that right?

00:13:08.578 --> 00:13:09.269
Too interesting.

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And it's like big corporates.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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A lot of places outta Arizona and Texas and, well, my favorite stories are of the, the local brand, uh, beating off the big corporates when they try to come in.

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I just had Zach George on and Yeah.

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And uh, you know, valley Crest just tried to come in.

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A few times, which is a big national, but between Lindgren and, and Zach, they're kind of just too strong.

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Yeah.

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You know, they haven't had enough market share.

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Well, there, there is a pretty good benefit of being the local guy.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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I mean, for instance, you and I were at the Realities for Children event Saturday night.

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Totally.

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You know, and then I think I maybe at the Rotary Club, I believe.

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Right.

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And then, which you should come again, by the way.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I thought you were gonna come on board maybe.

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Yeah.

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You shoot me an invite.

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Yeah, we should.

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But it was funny, I mean, there was, I think last summer, there was like two weeks there where we saw each other like four times, stretch in two weeks.

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And I looked at you and I said, should we just start carpooling all this stuff right together?

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And it was, it was pretty funny.

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But, but the town gets smaller and smaller as you live here more and more years.

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Yeah.

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And you're not gonna, you know, if you got some out-of-state competitors coming in, they're, they're not gonna care about the communities the way we do.

00:14:15.298 --> 00:14:16.168
Oh, a hundred percent.

00:14:16.168 --> 00:14:19.229
I, I turned into a Antiaz Amazon guy.

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Yeah.

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Um, during Covid Nation, actually, when I bought a, a Blackstone Grill at Man Weiler's Hardware, Uhhuh$199 for a 18 inch griddle and an 18 inch, uh, grill with a pop boiler that you can, you know, take that off.

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I was like, that's sweet.

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Like I should buy that.

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And so I looked up the reviews and of course Amazon pops up 2 99 for the same thing.

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Yeah.

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And like, man, Weiler's is probably paying 130 bucks for that thing and selling it to me for 1 99.

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Yeah.

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And donating to the football team in Windsor.

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And meanwhile, Amazon's paying$64 from the.

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Manufacturer direct probably and selling it for 300.

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Yeah.

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I You said the bitches.

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Yeah.

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I, I'm not gonna give you any more money.

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Uh, and I like, I like the same thing.

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I like to support the local businesses.

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I mean, because people support us, you know?

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Yeah.

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And it's, and it, and it helps bring up the community instead of buying something somewhere else and having it ship to you.

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Yeah.

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I mean, sometimes you have to do that.

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Sure.

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But when I can, yeah.

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There's times I have either my wife or Alma here at Loco buy me something from Amazon that I can't really get easily otherwise, but Yeah.

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Uh, personally I still never buy anything from Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Sorry, Jeff Bezos.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But you can still come on the podcast if you want me to.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Convince me.

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Yeah, invite me.

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I wanna sit in the back room here and watch you guys talk.

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It'd be pretty interesting.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That'd be fun.

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Yeah.

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Um, so, so pretty small operation at that time.

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And, and so when you got promoted to kind of.

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Not maybe your current role, but some portion of your current role.

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Was that a few years in?

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Yeah, it was a few years in, I think it was probably about three years in, we, we developed our unlimited wash pass program.

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Okay.

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And, um, I, I, I put that together, not, not a hundred percent side by myself.

00:16:02.339 --> 00:16:02.399
Yeah.

00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:05.938
We put it together, charge, but majority of the work You the charge, you were the project manager.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Majority of the work.

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Um, I, you know, I, I, I did and then, and then, uh, we went to.

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We flew around the nation.

00:16:15.364 --> 00:16:20.313
Um, breeze through Car Wash is a very, uh, established car wash chain Oh.

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It is?

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In, in our whole entire industry.

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And so we Oh, I didn't know that.

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I thought this was a local brand.

00:16:24.903 --> 00:16:28.504
It is a local brand, but I'm just talking about our reputation Yes.

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Within the whole industry.

00:16:30.183 --> 00:16:30.634
Yeah.

00:16:30.634 --> 00:16:30.844
Yeah.

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I mean a lot of, and we, and we're really good about building relationships with even our competitors and other people.

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Um, but we've established relationships all across the nation.

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So I flew around a lot of different places, saw how they run their program and took notes and we built it out.

00:16:46.114 --> 00:16:46.173
Yeah.

00:16:46.203 --> 00:16:52.504
And, um, nice job of slowly ramping up that, uh, monthly membership dues without making it feel too expensive.

00:16:52.594 --> 00:16:53.254
Right, right.

00:16:54.033 --> 00:16:55.533
It felt really cheap when I first signed up.

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It was Oh man was like, yeah, I know.

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And it's come a long way.

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It's like, but I'm sure costs are up a lot.

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Right?

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Like, labor's up probably 40% since you first started that program.

00:17:03.903 --> 00:17:04.354
It is.

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A lot of costs are up soap, I mean all, just all kinds of stuff.

00:17:07.653 --> 00:17:09.124
And water's going up too, right?

00:17:09.124 --> 00:17:09.364
Yep.

00:17:09.394 --> 00:17:09.784
Yep.

00:17:09.784 --> 00:17:11.854
And, and, and do you guys get like a special pass?

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So you recycle a lot of water, right?

00:17:13.503 --> 00:17:13.953
Yes.

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Spin it back through.

00:17:14.913 --> 00:17:15.124
Yeah.

00:17:15.124 --> 00:17:17.763
So really, and thank you for asking this question.

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This is something I'm super passionate about and I didn't even know the answer by the way.

00:17:21.003 --> 00:17:21.933
I was curious guy.

00:17:22.294 --> 00:17:25.054
Well, the, it's interesting way it works.

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So the water that goes underneath the conveyor, a lot of that is reclaimed, like 50% of the water is reclaimed.

00:17:30.784 --> 00:17:31.114
Okay.

00:17:31.473 --> 00:17:35.644
So on average it takes about 50 gallons to wash a vehicle.

00:17:35.644 --> 00:17:35.673
Okay.

00:17:35.703 --> 00:17:40.923
So 25% of it's reclaimed, but the, the, the, the soap and that kinda stuff that needs to be on fresh water.

00:17:40.953 --> 00:17:42.634
'cause you can't do the reclaimed water over that.

00:17:42.784 --> 00:17:43.174
Gotcha, gotcha.

00:17:43.318 --> 00:17:49.713
And so, so the reclaimed is more of the rinse part kind of, uh, not, uh, not necessarily the rinse, but the high pressure applications.

00:17:49.713 --> 00:17:50.284
Oh, sure.

00:17:50.493 --> 00:17:50.733
Right.

00:17:50.733 --> 00:17:51.784
You're asking good questions.

00:17:51.784 --> 00:17:53.284
We need to get you an application here.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But like, like when you go through and you see the high pressure that comes home, you got it bust, you got a guitar in here, we'll bust it out.

00:18:01.473 --> 00:18:06.153
Um, but like the high pressure applications, getting the big stuff off that, that's reclaim.

00:18:06.364 --> 00:18:11.433
But realistically, you know, I was, I was talking to other people about it, like it's all recycled.

00:18:11.433 --> 00:18:11.703
Right.

00:18:11.703 --> 00:18:14.818
It all gets, goes down the drain, it gets, it goes down to, yeah.

00:18:14.943 --> 00:18:26.044
The plant out here near the Environmental Learning Center, it's treated it's re-released, goes into Falls Creek, uh, reservoir, then it's re-released into the Pooter between, um, um, Tim and Windsor.

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Right, right.

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Yeah.

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So it's, they drink it in Greeley.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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There you go.

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Car wash water in Greeley.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, I mean, that's pretty cool.

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You know, I mean, it's, it's, it's a better option.

00:18:35.884 --> 00:18:36.059
Oh, for sure.

00:18:36.153 --> 00:18:38.673
Well, I mean, if you think about the Colorado River Yeah.

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You know, like virtually every drop of that has gone through like a few different phases on its way down.

00:18:44.523 --> 00:18:45.003
Oh man.

00:18:45.003 --> 00:18:45.604
It's these days.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's just a trickle when it gets to the.

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To the border.

00:18:49.153 --> 00:18:49.364
Yeah.

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I mean, it doesn't even hit, hit the ocean.

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Is it done at all anymore?

00:18:52.273 --> 00:18:54.239
No, I knew it was kind of virtually used up.

00:18:54.433 --> 00:18:57.913
I know a couple years ago they released some stuff and it finally went back, flush it out a little bit.

00:18:57.973 --> 00:19:06.013
But in't that, in't that crazy, like, think about this like the, the Colorado River, and it goes through all these different states and doesn't even reach the ocean.

00:19:06.013 --> 00:19:06.284
Right.

00:19:06.284 --> 00:19:14.804
But the water from the Colorado River comes down to Adams Tunnel and fills up, uh, like Carter Lake Horse, tooth Reservoir or Boulder Reservoir.

00:19:14.804 --> 00:19:14.894
Mm-hmm.

00:19:15.163 --> 00:19:24.943
So we've got water in this town that is from the Colorado River, and potentially some of that water might even reach the Gulf of America now.

00:19:25.003 --> 00:19:25.453
Right.

00:19:25.844 --> 00:19:26.503
You know what I mean?

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So, yeah.

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I mean, it it's not supposed to flow east.

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Yeah, that's an interesting thing.

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Huh.

00:19:31.038 --> 00:19:32.953
But, but water from the Colorado River does flow east.

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And we get it first.

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We get it first, like everybody else drinks it after it's already been kind of through the thing.

00:19:37.394 --> 00:19:37.483
Yeah.

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But we get it right out of the tap just about.

00:19:39.284 --> 00:19:39.703
Oh yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm a, I'm a big, I'm a big river guy.

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That's why I moved out here.

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I was a raft guide.

00:19:44.354 --> 00:19:46.963
And that's, that's, that's Were you a raft guide in Alabama?

00:19:47.923 --> 00:19:52.094
Um, not commercially, but I've, I'll take a raft down in all those rivers any day.

00:19:52.153 --> 00:19:52.183
Okay.

00:19:52.183 --> 00:19:53.713
But, but that's not where I started.

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I started, I started, started here and that's what brought me to Colorado, so.

00:19:57.433 --> 00:19:57.794
Gotcha.

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Yeah.

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That desire, well, you were like.

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Uh, how, how old are you?

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I am 45.

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45?

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Mm-hmm.

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So the internet existed when you were getting outta high school and researching what to do with yourself a little bit and stuff.

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It really didn't for me.

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Yeah.

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Like I came out here without the benefit of being able to look up what Fort Collins was like.

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Barely.

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Except for like at the library.

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Right.

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And, uh, so how did you get interested in rafting?

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Like, it seems like, I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.

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I've never been down to the southeast, but it doesn't feel like, you know, it feels more like in an, you know, slow rafts down the river than to a cookout.

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I love the fact that you just busted out the air banjo.

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That is so awesome.

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And you were in tune too.

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Good job.

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Yeah.

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Um, for me it was, I don't, okay, so this is what I always joke about, right?

00:20:45.088 --> 00:20:46.409
We could talk a lot more about Alabama.

00:20:46.409 --> 00:20:47.878
We will, but Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I could chat about it all day.

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Uh.

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I always joke that my name, you know, my name's Wade.

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Wade for reason'cause of double, double first name, right?

00:20:54.659 --> 00:20:55.048
Yeah.

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That is total Alabama thing.

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Wade Keith, right?

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Waiting.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Wade Keith.

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You know, it must be an Alabama thing.

00:21:01.318 --> 00:21:02.638
Like Ricky Bobby, you know.

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What's your middle name?

00:21:03.808 --> 00:21:04.979
Uh, my middle name's Wade.

00:21:05.939 --> 00:21:07.138
Oh, okay.

00:21:07.138 --> 00:21:08.788
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:08.818 --> 00:21:11.788
My first name's Douglas, but uh, so you got three first names?

00:21:11.818 --> 00:21:12.179
Yeah.

00:21:12.269 --> 00:21:12.659
Douglas Wade.

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It's a hundred percent an Alabama thing, right?

00:21:14.788 --> 00:21:21.118
There's, there's all kinds of people running around with two first names, two last names in Alabama, but, uh Oh, okay.

00:21:21.118 --> 00:21:21.838
This is so funny.

00:21:21.838 --> 00:21:28.679
But, uh, so I was, I always joke that, uh, you know, my name's Wade and I was put on this earth to walk through the water.

00:21:29.009 --> 00:21:29.219
Okay.

00:21:29.219 --> 00:21:29.489
Right.

00:21:29.489 --> 00:21:32.009
Because that's what Wade is, is walking through the water.

00:21:32.489 --> 00:21:36.808
I don't know, I've just always been a, a fan of, uh, of rivers and lakes.

00:21:36.808 --> 00:21:41.759
We have a, a lake house in Alabama, and, uh, I've just always been a, a fan of doing that.

00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:50.489
And for me, uh, I've just always kind of had a bit of an extreme part of my personality that I needed to cater to.

00:21:51.088 --> 00:21:52.888
Uh, used to rock climb a lot.

00:21:52.949 --> 00:21:57.328
Uh, you probably know this, I have, I had a bad injury years ago where I, I had to get my neck fused.

00:21:57.328 --> 00:21:59.848
I can't, uh, I can't climb anymore.

00:22:00.419 --> 00:22:03.328
Um, but I really wanted to do it when I was in college.

00:22:03.419 --> 00:22:12.568
Um, they had a kayaking class and I took it and I, I went to like six sessions and then on the sixth sessions at the very end, I finally learned how to roll a kayak up.

00:22:12.598 --> 00:22:13.019
Okay.

00:22:13.499 --> 00:22:16.199
Um, and then I didn't do it for a while.

00:22:16.528 --> 00:22:19.378
Originally I was, I had a job, uh.

00:22:19.739 --> 00:22:21.568
Rafting in Tennessee.

00:22:22.229 --> 00:22:22.528
Okay.

00:22:22.588 --> 00:22:23.489
Only a Cohi river.

00:22:23.489 --> 00:22:26.548
But then I, I was like, you know, I've been in the south my whole life.

00:22:26.548 --> 00:22:29.278
Let me go venture out and see what else is out there.

00:22:29.278 --> 00:22:31.769
So I decided to take a job out here and that's what brought me out here.

00:22:31.769 --> 00:22:32.189
Okay.

00:22:32.548 --> 00:22:36.659
And those companies are always looking for smart young men that wanna be raft guides, I imagine, right?

00:22:36.749 --> 00:22:37.319
Yeah, I can.

00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:38.788
I mean, it's hard work long hours.

00:22:39.269 --> 00:22:41.219
It is, it really builds a lot of character.

00:22:41.219 --> 00:22:53.608
I mean, I was terrified of, uh, of rafting, but, um, during training we had to jump out and swim through all the rapids and, you know, doing that two months straight every day.

00:22:53.909 --> 00:22:54.209
Yeah.

00:22:54.209 --> 00:22:54.898
For a while.

00:22:54.898 --> 00:22:57.148
Really burnt, burnt that outta me to be scared of it.

00:22:57.148 --> 00:22:57.269
Yeah.

00:22:57.298 --> 00:22:59.878
And now, I mean, we, we do all kinds of stuff.

00:22:59.878 --> 00:23:04.528
I mean, we, we have a goal to, to, to do a new stretch of river every year.

00:23:04.588 --> 00:23:06.419
Last year I got four new stretches in.

00:23:06.419 --> 00:23:06.538
Oh, cool.

00:23:06.689 --> 00:23:08.969
And, um, the year before that, it was a couple of stretches.

00:23:08.969 --> 00:23:10.588
So your injuries don't happen for you in that space.

00:23:11.084 --> 00:23:23.114
Um, they do, but the, the, the, the Kay kayaking piece I've had to kind of step back from, um, when we had small children, I didn't kayak as much, uh, because we had to bring kids down the river.

00:23:23.114 --> 00:23:27.824
And so the, i, I kind of traded in a kayak for a fly fishing rod.

00:23:28.153 --> 00:23:28.544
Okay.

00:23:28.604 --> 00:23:34.753
And so, and now, and now I wade through the water and, and fly fish a ton.

00:23:34.753 --> 00:23:40.183
So that's, I got, I got too many hobbies, but that was anything involved in the river is my home.

00:23:40.304 --> 00:23:44.354
I, uh, you know, the title of this podcast is the Lo the Loco Experience.

00:23:44.354 --> 00:23:48.523
And I was just remembering one of my own that I might as well share here.

00:23:49.034 --> 00:23:55.814
Um, when Jill and I were first dating, I don't know if I've, I don't think I've shared this on the podcast before.

00:23:56.098 --> 00:23:56.519
Uh oh.

00:23:56.778 --> 00:24:01.243
So, so we, uh, we went up the Pooter to, to float down the river.

00:24:01.243 --> 00:24:05.413
Of course, like everybody does, I'm sure you probably have, or, uh, probably a hundreds people of times people.

00:24:05.413 --> 00:24:05.564
Yeah.

00:24:05.594 --> 00:24:12.584
So, um, but I didn't, I was broke, uh, and I, I wanted to be with Jill, my new girlfriend, right?

00:24:12.644 --> 00:24:20.054
And so I bought like a double raft from Walmart, like for$40 or something, this crappy little plastic thing.

00:24:20.054 --> 00:24:24.554
Instead of just buying us each a$25 inner tube or something,$20 inner tube.

00:24:25.183 --> 00:24:29.384
Um, and as we're going down the river, it's starting to lose air.

00:24:29.384 --> 00:24:30.314
It's starting to lose air.

00:24:30.673 --> 00:24:37.693
And, um, so we're sitting on the edges so that we don't hit our butts on the bottom too bad during the low spots.

00:24:38.054 --> 00:24:39.253
And then Jill gets boop out.

00:24:40.183 --> 00:24:44.923
Like by a big rock and she's four foot 11 and not a strong swimmer.

00:24:45.493 --> 00:24:47.233
And she was definitely very freaked out.

00:24:48.044 --> 00:24:58.003
And I like waited for a little bit, jumped out, got into position to catch her, like she's literally tumbling down the river.

00:24:58.003 --> 00:25:06.104
Somehow I was able to get my footing and when I jumped out and stuff and I possession myself and I catch her and she tumbles me off my feet.

00:25:06.193 --> 00:25:12.644
And we both are bobbing for a while and like for her it's really serious.

00:25:12.644 --> 00:25:14.473
She's frantic, she's like freaking out.

00:25:15.134 --> 00:25:26.804
And somehow through probably massive amounts of adrenaline, I was able to catch her and get my footing in like up to my groin water running really fast.

00:25:27.104 --> 00:25:39.044
So I can't really even re, I don't know how I did it, but I did and I caught her and I got us over to shore, which turned out to be an island, which after she settled down a little bit, we had to cross, but it was only like knee deep.

00:25:39.584 --> 00:25:43.213
And uh, then I bought some inner tubes for floating down the river.

00:25:43.423 --> 00:25:44.624
And she got a life jacket.

00:25:44.834 --> 00:25:45.163
Yeah.

00:25:45.374 --> 00:25:47.834
And she only always wears a life jacket anymore.

00:25:47.864 --> 00:25:49.243
So you weren't wearing a life jacket?

00:25:49.243 --> 00:25:49.723
Neither of us.

00:25:49.723 --> 00:25:49.993
No.

00:25:50.023 --> 00:25:50.263
Yeah.

00:25:50.263 --> 00:25:51.673
Or were you wearing shoes?

00:25:51.973 --> 00:25:52.544
Uh, no.

00:25:52.753 --> 00:25:53.144
Okay.

00:25:53.144 --> 00:25:53.384
Yeah.

00:25:53.384 --> 00:25:56.173
And we had probably two beers each, already, three maybe.

00:25:56.534 --> 00:25:56.713
You know?

00:25:56.713 --> 00:26:03.673
Well, the good thing is, uh, the people who are trained, uh, the RAF guys are trained, are, are, are trained to recognize stuff like that and talk to you about it.

00:26:03.673 --> 00:26:08.653
But, but, but, but you know, if I would've seen you out, there've been like, Hey, life jacket, shoes.

00:26:09.284 --> 00:26:09.614
Yeah.

00:26:10.064 --> 00:26:11.894
Well, I mean, the river's pretty humbling, you know?

00:26:11.894 --> 00:26:15.584
I mean there's, it totally was like, I was, you know, a North Dakota kid.

00:26:15.973 --> 00:26:16.689
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

00:26:16.723 --> 00:26:18.943
I didn't have any respect for that level of water power.

00:26:19.124 --> 00:26:19.364
Yeah.

00:26:19.364 --> 00:26:20.173
And it's cold too.

00:26:20.173 --> 00:26:21.134
I mean, this stuff's coming.

00:26:21.193 --> 00:26:24.013
This, this is coming straight out of Rocky Mountain National Park.

00:26:24.013 --> 00:26:27.344
It's not like the stuff in the south where, you know, it's, it's pretty warm.

00:26:27.348 --> 00:26:28.199
Right, right.

00:26:28.199 --> 00:26:28.574
Yeah.

00:26:28.753 --> 00:26:28.933
Yeah.

00:26:28.933 --> 00:26:30.884
But the river's, river's taught me a lot.

00:26:30.884 --> 00:26:31.064
Yeah.

00:26:31.064 --> 00:26:33.763
Have you had a, well, you'll have a local experience later.

00:26:33.763 --> 00:26:36.104
Maybe that'll be related to your injury.

00:26:36.584 --> 00:26:37.993
Yeah, we can talk about that later now.

00:26:37.993 --> 00:26:42.913
But, but tell me about, maybe while we're talking about rafting, tell me about like, rafting close calls.

00:26:43.183 --> 00:26:45.884
'cause they probably won't make your Okay.

00:26:46.364 --> 00:26:52.183
I mean, I've had, I've had quite a bit, uh, the, the, and we'll get back to, to the car wash.

00:26:52.213 --> 00:26:52.663
Oh yeah, yeah.

00:26:52.663 --> 00:26:53.114
You're good.

00:26:53.114 --> 00:26:53.503
You're good.

00:26:53.503 --> 00:26:56.384
I, I mean, you've, you've hit a really soft spot for me here.

00:26:56.384 --> 00:26:59.084
Or, or, not a soft spot, but like, something I'm really passionate about.

00:26:59.653 --> 00:27:10.963
So the, the closest call or the most, uh, exciting, I'm gonna say exciting, but it was scary at the time was when I met my wife.

00:27:10.993 --> 00:27:11.023
Okay.

00:27:11.054 --> 00:27:18.253
So I met this beautiful woman that, that was super smart, very kind still is, all of those things.

00:27:18.314 --> 00:27:21.884
And I was like, I am really trying to impress this, this lady.

00:27:22.394 --> 00:27:34.334
And so we were at a, uh, she worked at a different rafting company than me and so and so, but I was trying my best to always try to hang out at that rafting company somehow after work.

00:27:34.334 --> 00:27:35.923
And so 4th of July.

00:27:36.479 --> 00:27:41.608
Um, long time ago, uh, probably 2005 or six.

00:27:42.148 --> 00:27:44.338
Um, everybody's down there hanging out, partying.

00:27:44.338 --> 00:27:47.683
It's 4th of July and we're, this is done in Kansas City?

00:27:47.818 --> 00:27:48.659
Kansas City, yeah.

00:27:49.169 --> 00:27:51.239
And, uh, a truck full of guys pulled up.

00:27:51.239 --> 00:27:54.388
It's probably about, at this point, it's probably like 10 o'clock at night.

00:27:54.509 --> 00:27:54.778
Okay.

00:27:54.778 --> 00:27:58.288
And they're like, we're running the gorge, the roll gorge is what we're talking about.

00:27:58.709 --> 00:28:00.719
And I'm sitting there, I'm like, oh, you guys are crazy.

00:28:00.719 --> 00:28:05.128
You guys are gonna go out like after we've been partying and you're gonna go down the gorge.

00:28:05.278 --> 00:28:10.169
And then I look over and this girl I'm trying to press is, is sitting there.

00:28:10.169 --> 00:28:11.848
She's like, well, yeah, we're going.

00:28:11.848 --> 00:28:15.568
And I'm like, well, of course I'm gonna go.

00:28:15.568 --> 00:28:15.959
Right.

00:28:15.963 --> 00:28:16.163
Right.

00:28:16.223 --> 00:28:21.328
So I, I rallied my buddy, uh, Chad and Mark, still great friends of mine.

00:28:21.808 --> 00:28:24.058
Um, and I'm like, Hey, let's go down the river.

00:28:24.118 --> 00:28:34.679
And she's going and uh, and so they said, okay, well we're gonna pick you up'cause you have to go up this big hill to, and then you have to dip down to the put in for the gorge.

00:28:34.679 --> 00:28:34.798
Right.

00:28:34.798 --> 00:28:35.189
I imagine.

00:28:35.189 --> 00:28:35.489
Yeah.

00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:35.729
Yeah.

00:28:35.729 --> 00:28:41.759
And so we go up to the top of the hill, we get all of her stuff, um, we get ready and they come by to pick us up.

00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:43.229
And I'm like, oh, okay, cool.

00:28:43.229 --> 00:28:43.769
Where's the girl?

00:28:43.769 --> 00:28:45.179
They were like, oh, she's in the other car.

00:28:45.179 --> 00:28:45.838
And I was like, okay, cool.

00:28:45.838 --> 00:28:47.669
So we get her stuff and we get down to the put in.

00:28:48.284 --> 00:28:51.854
When we get down to the Putin, um, I'm looking around, I'm like, where's the girl?

00:28:51.854 --> 00:28:52.574
Where's the girl?

00:28:52.663 --> 00:28:53.894
And they're like, oh, she didn't make it.

00:28:53.894 --> 00:28:55.933
The owner of that company came out and started yelling at him.

00:28:55.933 --> 00:28:56.834
So she bailed out.

00:28:57.253 --> 00:29:03.284
And so the whole reason that I'm doing this that I am pretty intimidated about going is for the girl.

00:29:03.403 --> 00:29:04.933
You knew it was dumb, but Yeah.

00:29:04.933 --> 00:29:05.203
Yeah.

00:29:05.203 --> 00:29:06.763
It for the girl.

00:29:06.854 --> 00:29:08.114
And she didn't show up.

00:29:08.114 --> 00:29:09.854
And I was like, well, okay, well we're gonna go down.

00:29:09.854 --> 00:29:15.044
And so by this time it's probably 12 30, 1 o'clock in the morning.

00:29:15.074 --> 00:29:15.344
Okay.

00:29:15.614 --> 00:29:16.814
And we're going down the royal gorge.

00:29:16.874 --> 00:29:18.253
Is there a moonlight?

00:29:18.374 --> 00:29:18.703
Yeah.

00:29:18.703 --> 00:29:20.144
I, I, I don't remember.

00:29:20.144 --> 00:29:21.284
I mean, maybe, I don't know.

00:29:21.288 --> 00:29:23.443
Well, it seems like it'd be dark as heck otherwise.

00:29:23.443 --> 00:29:27.044
And I don't know if you've been down the world gorge, but it's world class whitewater.

00:29:27.253 --> 00:29:29.743
Haven't four class fours, high water.

00:29:30.013 --> 00:29:31.423
You know, it could get to class five.

00:29:32.144 --> 00:29:35.653
So we're going down and we get in this rapid called sledgehammer.

00:29:36.344 --> 00:29:36.614
Okay.

00:29:36.644 --> 00:29:37.064
Right.

00:29:37.064 --> 00:29:37.423
Right.

00:29:37.423 --> 00:29:40.273
Mean they don't ever give rapids, you know, you know.

00:29:40.364 --> 00:29:40.903
Nice.

00:29:40.903 --> 00:29:41.144
Nice.

00:29:41.144 --> 00:29:43.903
Until sledgehammer, until somebody dies.

00:29:43.903 --> 00:29:44.534
Double death.

00:29:44.534 --> 00:29:45.943
Falls.

00:29:45.943 --> 00:29:45.944
Falls.

00:29:45.950 --> 00:29:48.074
I mean, there's one on the Pooter called Killer Bridge.

00:29:48.078 --> 00:29:48.463
Right, right.

00:29:48.463 --> 00:29:52.124
You know, it's, it's not Death by Decapitation is another one on the Pooter.

00:29:52.124 --> 00:29:52.723
That's way up.

00:29:53.894 --> 00:29:57.523
And he was going down and he goes, uh, he goes, oh, there's a rock.

00:29:57.523 --> 00:30:00.824
And we parked on top of the rock and he goes, oh man, this isn't a good place for us to be.

00:30:01.634 --> 00:30:06.463
And then we all flipped and then we ended up floating downstream, and it's in the middle of the night.

00:30:07.273 --> 00:30:09.163
And I mean, I ended up swimming out.

00:30:09.314 --> 00:30:11.233
This is just you and your buddies or with some other people?

00:30:11.233 --> 00:30:12.523
These were people I didn't even know.

00:30:12.528 --> 00:30:13.124
Right, right.

00:30:13.124 --> 00:30:15.463
Because I was going for, you know, to press the girl.

00:30:15.463 --> 00:30:15.765
Right, right.

00:30:15.824 --> 00:30:19.003
Well, and there's one boat or two, there's like four of us.

00:30:19.003 --> 00:30:19.273
Okay.

00:30:19.273 --> 00:30:19.874
Four boats.

00:30:19.903 --> 00:30:20.384
Okay.

00:30:20.384 --> 00:30:24.223
And, but we flip, I ended up swimming out at, at the very top.

00:30:24.223 --> 00:30:26.054
Everybody else ended up swimming way down.

00:30:26.054 --> 00:30:28.453
And they couldn't find me for a while, so they thought I'd drowned.

00:30:28.483 --> 00:30:28.933
Oh shit.

00:30:28.963 --> 00:30:31.933
There was another girl, and it's called Recirculation.

00:30:31.933 --> 00:30:33.223
If they get in a big hole.

00:30:33.223 --> 00:30:33.314
Sure.

00:30:33.314 --> 00:30:36.463
Like you, you get down, it's like an undertone and it keeps pulling back and back.

00:30:36.523 --> 00:30:36.644
Yep.

00:30:36.644 --> 00:30:36.644
Yep.

00:30:36.733 --> 00:30:38.804
So this girl got recirculated multiple times.

00:30:38.804 --> 00:30:41.354
They got her out, she threw up and all this kind of stuff.

00:30:41.564 --> 00:30:41.953
Okay.

00:30:42.104 --> 00:30:44.683
But it was, it was, it was chaotic.

00:30:44.683 --> 00:30:46.513
It sucked the contacts outta my eyes.

00:30:46.513 --> 00:30:47.683
I couldn't see the rest of the trip.

00:30:47.713 --> 00:30:49.963
But we ended up finally getting all of her stuff together.

00:30:49.963 --> 00:30:52.874
By this time it's like 2 30, 3 o'clock in the morning.

00:30:52.963 --> 00:30:53.173
Right.

00:30:53.864 --> 00:31:01.784
And then we get back in the boat and we, then we end up, we, we get all the way through the gorge, we take out, and then we end up going home.

00:31:01.933 --> 00:31:08.503
And then three hours later I had to wake up and do two raft trips the next morning with customers.

00:31:08.503 --> 00:31:09.163
Afternoon session.

00:31:09.523 --> 00:31:09.973
But.

00:31:10.784 --> 00:31:13.693
You know, I, I mean, we, it was a great story.

00:31:13.693 --> 00:31:14.864
My buddies laugh about it.

00:31:14.864 --> 00:31:16.183
My buddy Chad was with me.

00:31:16.183 --> 00:31:22.423
He's the drummer that plays with us, uh, in our bands and, and, uh, we, we still talk about it to this day.

00:31:22.453 --> 00:31:23.294
And you know what?

00:31:24.074 --> 00:31:25.183
I impressed the girl enough.

00:31:25.723 --> 00:31:27.314
She married and we, we got two kids.

00:31:27.433 --> 00:31:29.983
We live in Fort Collins, so it worked out.

00:31:30.074 --> 00:31:30.554
Yeah.

00:31:30.554 --> 00:31:30.555
Yeah.

00:31:30.673 --> 00:31:33.703
Was she impressed by it or did she say like, that was dumb?

00:31:34.423 --> 00:31:37.903
I she had to been impressed by it because it showed some commitment.

00:31:37.933 --> 00:31:38.713
You know what I mean?

00:31:38.713 --> 00:31:40.753
I I'm gonna ask her that question tonight.

00:31:40.784 --> 00:31:41.054
Yeah.

00:31:41.114 --> 00:31:41.773
You know what I mean?

00:31:41.834 --> 00:31:44.203
I wonder, I wonder you caught her attention anyway.

00:31:44.263 --> 00:31:45.763
I've, I sure did talk her about that.

00:31:45.854 --> 00:31:46.183
Yeah.

00:31:46.243 --> 00:31:46.588
Yeah.

00:31:46.588 --> 00:31:48.554
So, so let's go back to car washes.

00:31:48.614 --> 00:31:48.913
Sure.

00:31:49.003 --> 00:31:51.374
Let's talk about the car wash business a little bit.

00:31:51.374 --> 00:32:02.683
Like, um, as one of those customers that only uses it once in a while and stuff, it's like, wow, I get this really nice service, these friendly people waving me to the right place and stuff.

00:32:03.223 --> 00:32:06.163
But like, what's the, what's the dynamic of it?

00:32:06.253 --> 00:32:10.124
Like, how do you find enough people?

00:32:10.124 --> 00:32:12.284
How do you choose your pricing?

00:32:12.284 --> 00:32:14.653
Like, what are the margins, what are the costs?

00:32:14.653 --> 00:32:17.894
A little bit, if you wanna talk about big, big numbers, you don't have to get into the details.

00:32:18.284 --> 00:32:20.173
Well, you have, um, yeah.

00:32:20.233 --> 00:32:21.763
I mean, it's, it is an interesting business, right?

00:32:21.763 --> 00:32:22.064
Like.

00:32:22.439 --> 00:32:23.578
It's an interesting business.

00:32:23.578 --> 00:32:24.959
There's a lot of moving parts, right?

00:32:24.959 --> 00:32:25.138
Yeah.

00:32:25.138 --> 00:32:30.989
You've got, and, and it is, if you ever go to, if you ever get a chance, or if anybody that's listening to this, it's interesting.

00:32:30.989 --> 00:32:33.838
Go to the International Car Wash Association trade shows.

00:32:33.868 --> 00:32:34.558
I mean, you Okay.

00:32:34.739 --> 00:32:39.269
It's, it's either like the second or third biggest trade show that ever happens in Vegas every year.

00:32:39.269 --> 00:32:39.388
Really?

00:32:39.388 --> 00:32:39.628
Yeah.

00:32:39.628 --> 00:32:40.108
It's huge.

00:32:40.528 --> 00:32:42.179
You walk in, there's equipment everywhere.

00:32:42.778 --> 00:32:51.724
I mean, you have to, you've got, uh, and I'm not much of the maintenance guy, but it's, um, but you kind of know what you're rocking as far as gear.

00:32:51.730 --> 00:32:51.929
Yeah.

00:32:51.929 --> 00:32:52.108
Yeah.

00:32:52.108 --> 00:32:54.778
I mean, you have to get, did you use the same gear in all your car washes?

00:32:54.959 --> 00:32:57.479
We try to, um, we try to.

00:32:57.538 --> 00:32:59.848
Um, and sometimes there's supply chain stuff going on.

00:32:59.878 --> 00:33:00.328
Yeah.

00:33:00.328 --> 00:33:01.108
And that kind of stuff.

00:33:01.108 --> 00:33:06.659
We have had to deal with that over the years, but we try to make it consistent among every location.

00:33:06.663 --> 00:33:06.868
Yep, yep.

00:33:06.898 --> 00:33:07.199
Right.

00:33:07.199 --> 00:33:11.969
Like even right here or a product, a convenient, consistent, friendly car wash experience.

00:33:11.969 --> 00:33:13.919
So we try to make things as consistent as possible.

00:33:13.949 --> 00:33:14.009
Yeah.

00:33:14.009 --> 00:33:18.239
So when you go to this one and this one, it's hard to make everything super consistent.

00:33:18.239 --> 00:33:18.479
Sure.

00:33:18.778 --> 00:33:22.888
But you've got the cost of the, um, you've got the cost of the equipment.

00:33:22.919 --> 00:33:24.269
You've got, which is what.

00:33:24.854 --> 00:33:30.554
Oh, I mean like$5 million, 2 million, 2 million, something like that.

00:33:30.554 --> 00:33:30.913
Yeah.

00:33:30.919 --> 00:33:32.534
For the, for just the equipment, not the building.

00:33:32.804 --> 00:33:33.403
Right, right.

00:33:33.409 --> 00:33:37.933
But just the sprayer and the spinners and the pumps and the whatever it used to cost 4 million to build'em ground up.

00:33:37.933 --> 00:33:38.473
Now it's eight.

00:33:38.534 --> 00:33:39.013
Now it's eight.

00:33:39.044 --> 00:33:39.493
Okay.

00:33:39.614 --> 00:33:40.124
Okay.

00:33:40.723 --> 00:33:41.953
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:41.953 --> 00:33:44.653
So I mean, I mean, it's So the big capital investment.

00:33:44.713 --> 00:33:45.074
Yeah.

00:33:45.104 --> 00:33:45.463
Yeah.

00:33:46.273 --> 00:33:50.564
Um, I could have a bucket and a sponge, and I could be a car wash.

00:33:50.743 --> 00:33:54.253
You could, you know, with a hose, but how much would it take me to wash my car at home?

00:33:54.854 --> 00:33:55.574
How many gallons?

00:33:55.844 --> 00:33:56.653
Uh, 150.

00:33:56.864 --> 00:33:57.284
Really?

00:33:57.403 --> 00:34:02.384
That's on average what it takes the amount of water that somebody uses, and that goes straight down to the storms.

00:34:02.653 --> 00:34:02.953
Sure.

00:34:03.284 --> 00:34:03.584
Right.

00:34:03.794 --> 00:34:06.644
And if you're ever wash it at home, research it.

00:34:06.644 --> 00:34:06.884
Right.

00:34:06.884 --> 00:34:09.284
'cause a lot of people don't wash their car correctly.

00:34:09.284 --> 00:34:15.313
They use one or two buckets, and then they're just wiping stuff right back into their, their vehicle.

00:34:15.463 --> 00:34:15.643
Okay.

00:34:15.643 --> 00:34:17.864
It's good to use a four to six bucket technique.

00:34:17.954 --> 00:34:18.673
Oh, wow.

00:34:18.733 --> 00:34:18.974
Yeah.

00:34:18.974 --> 00:34:19.184
Yeah.

00:34:19.184 --> 00:34:21.614
So reach, if you're gonna do it at home, just research it.

00:34:21.704 --> 00:34:22.213
Oh, dang.

00:34:22.213 --> 00:34:23.384
Research it pretty good.

00:34:23.384 --> 00:34:32.054
Because most, most people, I, and if I, I don't know the percentage, but if I had to put a percentage on it, like 95% of people don't wash their cars correctly at all.

00:34:32.054 --> 00:34:34.873
Well, I just wash my motorcycles mostly by hand.

00:34:34.994 --> 00:34:35.443
Oh yeah.

00:34:35.443 --> 00:34:40.304
Um, but I only use a one bucket method basically, you know, but it's pretty dirty by the end.

00:34:40.423 --> 00:34:44.233
Well, you can always hit up that University of YouTube and learn why, but I always watched the.

00:34:44.653 --> 00:34:46.634
The, the shiny spots first.

00:34:46.813 --> 00:34:47.204
Yeah.

00:34:47.233 --> 00:34:55.903
So I hit the windshield, the tank, the the side covers the pipes, you know, the, the, the stuff that's cleaner and shinier Yeah.

00:34:56.173 --> 00:34:57.523
With the, with the fresh soap.

00:34:57.523 --> 00:35:01.304
And then I get into the break areas and the wheels Yeah.

00:35:01.304 --> 00:35:02.173
And the yucky stuff.

00:35:02.384 --> 00:35:02.563
Yeah.

00:35:02.563 --> 00:35:04.753
When you get in the break areas that you got the brake dust.

00:35:04.753 --> 00:35:04.844
Right.

00:35:04.844 --> 00:35:08.085
And that's really gonna, you know, some people wipe off that, never.

00:35:08.090 --> 00:35:08.409
Never.

00:35:08.409 --> 00:35:09.768
And then put it right back on their clear code.

00:35:09.918 --> 00:35:13.304
I've never, ever, uh, washed the tank after I've washed the wheels.

00:35:13.333 --> 00:35:14.264
Yeah, yeah.

00:35:14.563 --> 00:35:17.329
But the, the car wash, I mean there's, so anyway, yeah.

00:35:17.333 --> 00:35:18.403
There's a lot of moving points.

00:35:18.403 --> 00:35:20.923
'cause you got so big capital investment.

00:35:20.954 --> 00:35:21.224
Yeah.

00:35:21.224 --> 00:35:24.523
You gotta replace that stuff every 10 years or something.

00:35:24.614 --> 00:35:25.184
Oh.

00:35:25.574 --> 00:35:27.164
Um, something like that.

00:35:27.168 --> 00:35:27.289
Yeah.

00:35:27.293 --> 00:35:28.003
Yeah.

00:35:28.003 --> 00:35:34.963
I mean, I know we upgraded some, some of our conveyors to this like flat conveyor and that was a big investment.

00:35:34.963 --> 00:35:34.965
Mm-hmm.

00:35:35.028 --> 00:35:39.164
Um, it's a little bit better for the customer experience'cause you're not going into like a trough.

00:35:39.168 --> 00:35:39.373
Yeah, yeah.

00:35:39.373 --> 00:35:40.994
You know, instead of it's flat.

00:35:41.023 --> 00:35:41.114
Yeah.

00:35:41.114 --> 00:35:42.103
You don't like drop in.

00:35:42.224 --> 00:35:42.704
Yeah.

00:35:42.704 --> 00:35:55.574
But, but there's a lot mean, there's, there's the point of sale systems that you have to deal with and then you have all the equipment and then you have employees and paying them a good wage.

00:35:55.574 --> 00:35:55.634
Yeah.

00:35:55.753 --> 00:35:59.684
I mean, right now at this time, we start our employees at$17 an hour.

00:35:59.684 --> 00:35:59.773
Mm-hmm.

00:35:59.773 --> 00:36:00.974
Just at the base level.

00:36:01.063 --> 00:36:01.393
Okay.

00:36:01.543 --> 00:36:04.963
Um, down in, down in Boulder County it's a little bit more, it's 18.

00:36:04.994 --> 00:36:05.449
Right, right.

00:36:05.454 --> 00:36:05.773
Yeah.

00:36:05.833 --> 00:36:08.264
But, uh, but there's all that.

00:36:08.264 --> 00:36:10.514
Then there's the training and the systems.

00:36:10.514 --> 00:36:10.873
Right.

00:36:10.873 --> 00:36:11.264
And then it.

00:36:12.054 --> 00:36:13.378
The, the hard, how much is the training?

00:36:13.768 --> 00:36:14.068
What's that?

00:36:14.068 --> 00:36:16.018
Uh, how much training on the front end?

00:36:16.648 --> 00:36:17.009
Oh.

00:36:17.009 --> 00:36:20.668
Um, it seems likely a lot like hours and hours.

00:36:20.699 --> 00:36:21.208
Yes.

00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:21.778
Yes.

00:36:21.838 --> 00:36:24.028
Uh, before they get to be around people, kinda, yeah.

00:36:24.034 --> 00:36:29.338
And I, and I may be quoting this incorrectly'cause training's not what I oversee.

00:36:29.338 --> 00:36:29.818
I Sure.

00:36:29.878 --> 00:36:31.409
I'm trying to, I'm trying not to.

00:36:31.588 --> 00:36:31.798
Yeah.

00:36:31.829 --> 00:36:33.179
Try to do everything.

00:36:33.179 --> 00:36:34.139
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:36:34.139 --> 00:36:34.193
I get it.

00:36:34.349 --> 00:36:39.418
But, uh, we do a couple of, uh, a couple of days of training in, at our headquarters.

00:36:39.418 --> 00:36:41.278
Now our headquarters is here in Fort Collins.

00:36:41.309 --> 00:36:41.369
Yeah.

00:36:41.369 --> 00:36:47.099
But we do a couple days of training, then they go out into the field, and then they do field work, and then they come back for some additional training.

00:36:47.128 --> 00:36:47.518
Right, right.

00:36:47.518 --> 00:36:48.719
But it's nonstop training.

00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:50.969
We, you can go through different levels of training.

00:36:51.179 --> 00:36:51.208
Mm.

00:36:51.329 --> 00:36:53.039
And then it makes you more promotable.

00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:55.889
But it's, it, it really is, it's nonstop training.

00:36:55.978 --> 00:36:56.188
Mm.

00:36:56.278 --> 00:36:59.969
And not a lot of people think car wash is, oh, you gotta train and do all that much.

00:36:59.969 --> 00:37:00.179
Yeah.

00:37:00.179 --> 00:37:05.248
I mean, there's equipment, there's the soft skills that you have to teach the employees.

00:37:05.248 --> 00:37:06.208
You do the best, honestly.

00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:06.298
Yeah.

00:37:06.298 --> 00:37:07.168
Like your employees.

00:37:07.949 --> 00:37:11.699
I've hardly ever had a negative interaction with, I don't think I have.

00:37:11.938 --> 00:37:12.268
Yeah.

00:37:12.268 --> 00:37:18.148
Had a negative interaction, you know, at, at least it was like, well, that was an, an inspiring thumbs up on the Right.

00:37:18.148 --> 00:37:18.298
Right.

00:37:18.298 --> 00:37:21.298
You know, and that's, and that's what we really pride ourselves on.

00:37:21.329 --> 00:37:21.568
Yeah.

00:37:21.568 --> 00:37:27.088
Is, I mean, you may even see some, um, some billboards around the area that say friendly faces ahead.

00:37:27.208 --> 00:37:27.298
Mm-hmm.

00:37:27.539 --> 00:37:27.989
You know what I mean?

00:37:27.989 --> 00:37:31.318
Because that's, we know that's a pretty good competitive advantage of ours.

00:37:31.708 --> 00:37:41.068
Sometimes you go to a car wash and you see somebody that's directing you in that has a look on their face, like they're a serial killer and you're like, wait a minute, I don't know if I trust this.

00:37:41.458 --> 00:37:42.059
You know what I mean?

00:37:42.208 --> 00:37:42.509
Right.

00:37:42.509 --> 00:37:50.309
But our employees, we do, um, we do hire, uh, professional and friendly is, is that's our values.

00:37:50.309 --> 00:37:52.559
So professional, you want take me through some of this.

00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:52.619
Yeah.

00:37:52.739 --> 00:37:54.719
You said you just freshened up a little bit of the phrasing here.

00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:54.778
Yeah.

00:37:54.778 --> 00:38:08.099
We, we, we switch this up, uh, and we do this probably once every, uh, year and a half to two years, but, uh, our values are professional and friendly, so we, um, we define professional just two.

00:38:08.398 --> 00:38:08.998
Yeah, yeah.

00:38:09.028 --> 00:38:12.434
But after we had define it and you'd be like, yeah, there's like eight.

00:38:12.838 --> 00:38:13.108
Yeah.

00:38:13.349 --> 00:38:18.748
So, but we define professional as people who are respectful, responsible, honest, and hardworking.

00:38:18.869 --> 00:38:19.199
Okay.

00:38:19.648 --> 00:38:25.139
Um, and somebody that's friendly, uh, needs to have a smile on their face and a positive attitude.

00:38:25.378 --> 00:38:25.498
Mm-hmm.

00:38:25.844 --> 00:38:35.923
Because sometimes, you know, the whole smile positive attitude, sometimes the only interaction they have with our employees is, is, is nonverbal.

00:38:36.043 --> 00:38:36.284
Yeah.

00:38:36.403 --> 00:38:36.853
Right.

00:38:36.974 --> 00:38:49.514
And so when we go into our, our, our training and our, our hiring, I mean our hiring, I mean, what we really do is we look for people that can fit within that and within those parameters.

00:38:49.514 --> 00:38:50.713
And that's the people we hire.

00:38:51.523 --> 00:38:51.974
I like it.

00:38:51.974 --> 00:38:54.103
I think that's, uh, it's so simple.

00:38:54.403 --> 00:38:54.733
Yeah.

00:38:54.824 --> 00:38:55.153
Right.

00:38:55.153 --> 00:38:58.934
Like anybody can understand what the expectations are.

00:38:59.264 --> 00:38:59.534
Yeah.

00:38:59.594 --> 00:39:00.164
A little bit.

00:39:00.434 --> 00:39:04.063
Like we have all have an idea about what being responsible is.

00:39:04.454 --> 00:39:04.753
Yeah.

00:39:05.684 --> 00:39:06.614
So I did that.

00:39:06.643 --> 00:39:13.333
I think, I don't know, I, I feel like a lot of times we get too complicated with value statements and this and that.

00:39:13.333 --> 00:39:14.804
We're like, here's this big list.

00:39:14.804 --> 00:39:15.704
Do all these things.

00:39:16.034 --> 00:39:16.423
Yeah.

00:39:16.514 --> 00:39:17.503
And it's overwhelming.

00:39:17.563 --> 00:39:17.833
Yeah.

00:39:17.864 --> 00:39:18.164
Right.

00:39:18.164 --> 00:39:21.434
And a lot of times people define this stuff and it just sits on a wall somewhere.

00:39:21.554 --> 00:39:21.764
Sure.

00:39:22.123 --> 00:39:34.123
You know, and people never reference it or they don't build their training and their systems and their advertising plans and that kind of stuff around what they're, the, the, to me, this is what we call the quality policy.

00:39:34.184 --> 00:39:34.603
Right.

00:39:34.934 --> 00:39:43.244
This is, you know, this is what, this is what we do and we need to, we need to breathe it, live it, you know, in everything we do.

00:39:43.634 --> 00:39:47.833
There was a company I worked for one time, um, and it, there was a.

00:39:48.208 --> 00:39:48.268
Yeah.

00:39:49.259 --> 00:39:53.159
There was some attention from when I hired because they said all this stuff.

00:39:53.219 --> 00:39:56.969
They said, Hey, we're gonna hire you and this is what we represent and this is what we do.

00:39:57.418 --> 00:39:59.333
But then when we got into the company mm-hmm.

00:39:59.489 --> 00:40:01.108
It was completely opposite.

00:40:01.409 --> 00:40:01.679
Yeah.

00:40:01.739 --> 00:40:06.628
And a catchphrase I use all the time is like, does the inside match the outside?

00:40:06.628 --> 00:40:06.778
Yeah.

00:40:06.778 --> 00:40:11.608
'cause with that company I had it said, well, the outside said this, but the inside said something different.

00:40:11.608 --> 00:40:12.809
Right, right, right.

00:40:12.809 --> 00:40:20.219
And so for, for us, you know, our value is integrity as far as our customers think, but really we'll rip them off every chance we get.

00:40:20.224 --> 00:40:20.849
Right, right.

00:40:20.849 --> 00:40:25.469
And so for, for us, it's like, Hey, this is what we say we do.

00:40:26.188 --> 00:40:33.418
Let's make sure that both the customer and the employee experience match what we say we do.

00:40:33.809 --> 00:40:37.199
So what's it take to, to, to bring that, to be?

00:40:37.289 --> 00:40:47.893
Because it seems like that's kind of your passion to some extent, is to, to walk the walk that you talk a little bit and even in your community engagements, like how do you make it f how do you fulfill it?

00:40:47.893 --> 00:40:47.894
Yeah.

00:40:47.894 --> 00:40:57.989
Like, to me that seems So I guess just by way of relevance, like with local think tank, we've got, you know, we got really nice inspiring mission, vision values.

00:40:57.989 --> 00:40:59.969
They're fairly simple, easy to explain.

00:41:00.869 --> 00:41:11.849
And aside from like telling them I feel like I do a really poor job of like, giving examples of living them and kind of being real about that.

00:41:11.849 --> 00:41:17.039
Or like, how, how do you, like, what, what's the effort level necessary to actually, I.

00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:18.583
Put that into action.

00:41:18.974 --> 00:41:22.903
I'm smiling because Kurt, you're asking some good questions that I'm passionate about.

00:41:22.903 --> 00:41:23.923
So thank you for that.

00:41:24.403 --> 00:41:26.594
Um, employee experience, right?

00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:26.659
Yeah.

00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:28.153
You, you survey'em, right?

00:41:28.153 --> 00:41:33.313
You, you, you one, you wanna map out the employee's experience.

00:41:33.318 --> 00:41:33.389
Mm-hmm.

00:41:33.434 --> 00:41:33.914
Right?

00:41:33.914 --> 00:41:36.884
So you say, Hey, I'm bringing an employee in, right?

00:41:36.914 --> 00:41:42.463
This is, so before you bring'em in, it's like, what kind of advertisement do we have that's bringing'em in?

00:41:42.733 --> 00:41:44.204
What does it say?

00:41:44.414 --> 00:41:45.914
What are the words that we use?

00:41:45.914 --> 00:41:46.244
Sure.

00:41:46.634 --> 00:41:49.244
Can we get some people to self eliminate so we don't get a right.

00:41:49.244 --> 00:41:50.594
So many damn people.

00:41:50.713 --> 00:41:55.634
And then two, you, what's the first thing that happens when you bring in employee in, you bring'em into orientation.

00:41:55.753 --> 00:41:55.963
Yep.

00:41:56.384 --> 00:41:56.773
Right?

00:41:57.043 --> 00:42:08.804
So it's important in orientation that, uh, you mention the things that are the most important and you use the same verbiage that they saw in the advertisement.

00:42:08.804 --> 00:42:10.813
And you use examples of how they do that, right?

00:42:11.324 --> 00:42:16.364
I think about, you know, have you ever heard somebody say, Hey, when I was brought into the company.

00:42:16.978 --> 00:42:20.518
We did things this way and now we do'em a different way and stuff like that.

00:42:20.518 --> 00:42:20.849
Right?

00:42:21.179 --> 00:42:28.858
Like if you bring'em in, in on day one, like let's say if like sales or something like that, I'm just using an example.

00:42:28.949 --> 00:42:29.068
Sure.

00:42:29.369 --> 00:42:31.259
Is super important to you.

00:42:31.259 --> 00:42:34.559
Well, on day one you need to be talking about it, right?

00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:38.219
So for us, like customer service, no, professionalism is a, yeah.

00:42:38.219 --> 00:42:39.628
Is a huge thing.

00:42:39.628 --> 00:42:39.869
Yeah.

00:42:39.869 --> 00:42:40.798
Professionalism, right?

00:42:40.798 --> 00:42:44.219
We are using that, that verbiage and we're using examples of how to do that.

00:42:44.219 --> 00:42:52.349
So we kind of keep nurturing that because in orientation is when you're going to remember that's the stuff you remember the most, right?

00:42:52.349 --> 00:42:56.759
This is the most important stuff that I have to remember throughout my whole entire employment.

00:42:56.759 --> 00:43:02.789
So as long as you're, you're hitting on these things and you're at orientation right?

00:43:02.969 --> 00:43:06.838
When they got onboarded, that's how you kind of keep reiterating it as well.

00:43:06.838 --> 00:43:07.108
Yeah.

00:43:07.108 --> 00:43:07.378
Yeah.

00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:15.103
And then I mean, if you look at your employee, your employee experience, it would be mapped out different from ours and than any of these businesses right there.

00:43:15.103 --> 00:43:15.628
Well, yeah.

00:43:15.628 --> 00:43:18.719
Well I was just thinking my employer experience is so much different too.

00:43:18.724 --> 00:43:19.048
Yeah, yeah.

00:43:19.048 --> 00:43:21.599
Like how many employees do you have in your 15 locations?

00:43:21.929 --> 00:43:22.588
Uh, 200.

00:43:22.588 --> 00:43:23.998
Around 250, right?

00:43:24.268 --> 00:43:24.568
Yeah.

00:43:24.628 --> 00:43:27.568
You know, and I've got Ava out here running the podcast.

00:43:27.568 --> 00:43:29.429
She's been with me since August and Sure.

00:43:29.458 --> 00:43:31.259
Almost been here for four years.

00:43:31.259 --> 00:43:41.009
And so I haven't had to kind of develop that systematic, but I can see how like, even with different roles that I hire, like affirming what's the most important thing.

00:43:42.284 --> 00:43:43.213
For your spot.

00:43:43.393 --> 00:43:43.634
Yeah.

00:43:43.634 --> 00:43:44.684
You know, right up front.

00:43:44.818 --> 00:43:45.108
Yeah.

00:43:45.114 --> 00:43:45.463
Yeah.

00:43:45.494 --> 00:43:47.983
I mean, and, and I think that, and it goes through different stages, right?

00:43:47.983 --> 00:43:52.003
You've got, here's the hiring phase, here's the orientation phase.

00:43:52.009 --> 00:43:52.068
Mm-hmm.

00:43:52.153 --> 00:44:05.233
Here's the, you know, middle employment stage or the, you know, when you, when you're in the field stage, middle employment, uh, kind of towards the end of the employment, um, um, the exit interviews, and then what happens afterwards, right?

00:44:05.264 --> 00:44:05.353
Yeah.

00:44:05.358 --> 00:44:05.429
Yeah.

00:44:05.434 --> 00:44:10.153
I mean, a, a zen moment for us is when we have an employee that worked for us for a long time.

00:44:11.023 --> 00:44:18.614
They move on to a different business and they can always come back and say, Hey, I developed my chops at Breeze through car wash.

00:44:18.614 --> 00:44:18.878
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:18.884 --> 00:44:20.623
That is a super win for us.

00:44:20.653 --> 00:44:24.074
Well,'cause not everybody can graduate to be part of the, the management team.

00:44:24.253 --> 00:44:24.554
Right.

00:44:24.614 --> 00:44:24.764
Right.

00:44:24.764 --> 00:44:25.483
Eventually or whatever.

00:44:25.483 --> 00:44:27.224
Like, you just, you might not grow that fast.

00:44:27.253 --> 00:44:27.403
Yeah.

00:44:27.403 --> 00:44:29.293
Might not have room nor need.

00:44:29.384 --> 00:44:29.773
Yeah.

00:44:29.833 --> 00:44:35.143
And some, some people may wanna just wipe down cars for 5, 5, 6 years and then be done, you know what I mean?

00:44:35.204 --> 00:44:38.893
So what is your, uh, average kind of duration of employee?

00:44:39.974 --> 00:44:41.054
Do you know that kind of numbers?

00:44:41.173 --> 00:44:42.974
Oh, that's more than the hr.

00:44:43.213 --> 00:44:44.534
It's more on the hr.

00:44:44.534 --> 00:44:46.423
I mean, I, but it's not super fast turnover.

00:44:46.423 --> 00:44:51.974
It feels like when I, when I go through the car wash,'cause I do every month at least twice to make sure you're not making too much money on me.

00:44:52.364 --> 00:44:52.786
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:53.023 --> 00:44:55.034
You see, you see, you see the same employees.

00:44:55.063 --> 00:44:55.364
Yeah.

00:44:55.423 --> 00:45:09.884
I, you know, I don't, I don't know, like again, you know, I, I try to dip my head in all the different departments and understand it, but, you know, over the last year or so, I'm like trying to be laser being focused on what I'm responsible for and what I can control.

00:45:09.914 --> 00:45:10.213
Okay.

00:45:10.483 --> 00:45:12.853
Um, and that's the brand and the community engagement mostly.

00:45:12.853 --> 00:45:14.054
Brand community.

00:45:14.054 --> 00:45:18.014
And then what happens on the backend experience of the unlimited Wash Pass program.

00:45:18.014 --> 00:45:18.403
I dig it.

00:45:18.554 --> 00:45:18.884
Yeah.

00:45:18.889 --> 00:45:19.079
Yeah.

00:45:19.393 --> 00:45:25.034
But, uh, I mean, we've had a lot of site managers that have been around for a long time.

00:45:25.034 --> 00:45:29.684
There's a lot of people that are, I mean, their career will be with Breeze through car wash.

00:45:29.684 --> 00:45:29.925
Yeah, yeah.

00:45:29.929 --> 00:45:30.079
Yeah.

00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:30.798
And I, and that's me.

00:45:30.804 --> 00:45:31.963
That's probably a pretty decent job.

00:45:32.594 --> 00:45:32.954
Yeah.

00:45:32.983 --> 00:45:33.284
Yeah.

00:45:33.284 --> 00:45:33.373
Right.

00:45:33.403 --> 00:45:34.514
Like, like manage.

00:45:34.574 --> 00:45:36.224
When you see a site manager that's like.

00:45:36.733 --> 00:45:40.903
Kind of generally the operations manager of the, that whole location Yeah.

00:45:40.909 --> 00:45:41.358
Kind of thing.

00:45:41.358 --> 00:45:41.599
Yeah.

00:45:41.603 --> 00:45:47.623
We've got site manager, uh, regional managers, and then, um, we've got a training department.

00:45:47.623 --> 00:45:49.063
We have a whole maintenance department.

00:45:49.063 --> 00:45:49.753
Sure, sure.

00:45:49.963 --> 00:45:50.293
Yeah.

00:45:51.074 --> 00:45:51.224
Yeah.

00:45:51.224 --> 00:45:53.173
We've got a lot of different things going.

00:45:53.173 --> 00:45:55.693
But when you're the boss at that location, that's the site manager.

00:45:55.753 --> 00:45:56.849
That's the site manager, yeah.

00:45:56.858 --> 00:46:00.943
And then a regional manager might manage three or four or five sites or something like that.

00:46:00.974 --> 00:46:01.213
Yeah.

00:46:01.244 --> 00:46:04.693
We've got, at this time we have three regional managers.

00:46:04.724 --> 00:46:11.023
Um, you know, some of'em take the north region then, then we have a west region, then we have kind of a south region.

00:46:11.503 --> 00:46:11.954
Yeah.

00:46:12.074 --> 00:46:12.313
Yeah.

00:46:12.403 --> 00:46:17.623
And they're kind of a sounding board and obstacle remover for their site managers.

00:46:17.983 --> 00:46:18.793
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:18.793 --> 00:46:22.364
Somebody that can bring the real problems from the front lines up to headquarters, kind of.

00:46:22.543 --> 00:46:22.903
Yeah.

00:46:22.963 --> 00:46:23.353
Yeah.

00:46:23.358 --> 00:46:23.369
Yeah.

00:46:23.503 --> 00:46:24.103
To some extent.

00:46:24.224 --> 00:46:24.523
Yeah.

00:46:24.554 --> 00:46:25.063
Yeah.

00:46:25.364 --> 00:46:32.864
It's, it's, it's been a very good deal for me and all the other people that have worked for our company's, I'm sure.

00:46:32.893 --> 00:46:33.043
Yeah.

00:46:33.043 --> 00:46:36.398
It's, it, it, and it, again, it's so surprising'cause it good.

00:46:36.398 --> 00:46:37.318
Never even think about it.

00:46:37.318 --> 00:46:37.559
Well, it's good people.

00:46:37.565 --> 00:46:38.324
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:38.353 --> 00:46:38.684
Right.

00:46:38.684 --> 00:46:45.614
Like it was, you know, spray ones and$9 a shot for your car wash for a long time.

00:46:45.614 --> 00:46:54.824
Even when people, my, my, my best friend growing up actually worked at JetStream Car Wash, which was the only automated car wash in Jamestown, North Dakota.

00:46:55.483 --> 00:46:56.653
And it was expensive.

00:46:56.684 --> 00:46:59.954
Like I, he, he started working where it was 3 35 an hour.

00:47:00.958 --> 00:47:01.949
And it was a rough job.

00:47:01.949 --> 00:47:05.548
You got wet every day, all day, and it was wiping stuff down a lot.

00:47:05.548 --> 00:47:13.259
There was a certain manual element, but it was already like six bucks a shot to wash your car way back then.

00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:14.309
Yeah.

00:47:14.309 --> 00:47:19.829
And so for you guys for 18 bucks a month or whatever it is now, even though it was 12 a few years ago.

00:47:19.858 --> 00:47:20.369
Oh yeah.

00:47:20.373 --> 00:47:20.543
Yeah.

00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:24.599
Uh, but you know that it's, it's a pretty good value proposition.

00:47:24.898 --> 00:47:25.829
It is, yeah.

00:47:25.829 --> 00:47:39.568
And we always, um, we always position it where, you know, if you buy two washes within a month, um, the, the wash passes is less than if you bought two washes per month without having the wash pass.

00:47:39.568 --> 00:47:40.289
That makes sense.

00:47:40.318 --> 00:47:40.528
Yeah.

00:47:40.528 --> 00:47:42.329
Like, I mean, it, it makes it easy.

00:47:43.139 --> 00:47:43.409
Yeah.

00:47:43.438 --> 00:47:44.608
For the value buyer.

00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:45.268
Yeah.

00:47:45.298 --> 00:47:49.289
Uh, even if you only wash your car once a month, which is true for me sometimes.

00:47:49.619 --> 00:47:49.739
Yeah.

00:47:49.739 --> 00:47:51.148
It still feels like the right value.

00:47:51.449 --> 00:47:56.608
And there's, and there's, uh, there's a lot of different type of business models when it comes to washe.

00:47:56.608 --> 00:47:56.699
Sure.

00:47:56.699 --> 00:47:59.849
You've got the self serves where you kind of go in, you do it yourself.

00:47:59.938 --> 00:48:02.128
I have to do that for my annual camper.

00:48:02.188 --> 00:48:02.489
Yeah.

00:48:02.489 --> 00:48:02.789
Yeah.

00:48:02.789 --> 00:48:03.628
It's a little too tall.

00:48:03.628 --> 00:48:05.759
It actually, it would be pretty fun to show up there sometime.

00:48:05.878 --> 00:48:06.059
Yeah.

00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:08.159
I didn't, I didn't know you owned that when you pulled up.

00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:10.289
I was like, Ooh, I wanna go look in that and see what's going on in there.

00:48:10.324 --> 00:48:11.219
Oh, we can check it out after this.

00:48:11.969 --> 00:48:16.108
But you've got the, what's called self-serve or, um, sorry.

00:48:16.108 --> 00:48:18.659
In bay automatics, which is kinda like your gas stations.

00:48:18.659 --> 00:48:20.489
You pull in and you sit and it goes around your car.

00:48:20.489 --> 00:48:22.048
It's more of your touchless option.

00:48:22.378 --> 00:48:22.500
Yep, yep.

00:48:22.918 --> 00:48:24.599
Ours is what you call, we have.

00:48:24.958 --> 00:48:27.148
We have two of the other business models.

00:48:27.179 --> 00:48:29.878
It's, it's, um, an express exterior.

00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:30.509
Okay.

00:48:30.748 --> 00:48:36.298
Um, where you go through on a conveyorized, uh, wash, and then you get free vacuums afterwards.

00:48:36.329 --> 00:48:36.509
Sure.

00:48:36.509 --> 00:48:37.978
And then there's a flex model.

00:48:38.099 --> 00:48:38.278
Oh.

00:48:38.849 --> 00:48:49.048
And a flex model is, uh, you can get, you can get the exterior done or you can pull around to get, um, express interior services.

00:48:49.139 --> 00:48:49.889
Oh, right.

00:48:49.889 --> 00:48:51.358
So we do the interior.

00:48:51.358 --> 00:48:52.559
It's not a detail.

00:48:52.588 --> 00:48:52.889
Yeah.

00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:54.733
It's not a detail, but quick vac wipe down.

00:48:54.733 --> 00:48:55.318
But it's Quick Vac.

00:48:55.318 --> 00:48:55.829
Quick vac.

00:48:55.914 --> 00:48:57.418
And we, and that's included in the membership.

00:48:57.719 --> 00:48:59.099
We have a membership for that.

00:48:59.103 --> 00:48:59.534
Oh, I see.

00:48:59.534 --> 00:48:59.534
Yeah.

00:48:59.818 --> 00:49:00.148
Yep.

00:49:00.148 --> 00:49:03.179
And that's, um, and a handful of locations offer that.

00:49:03.208 --> 00:49:03.478
Yeah.

00:49:03.509 --> 00:49:04.708
Maybe even Mulberry too.

00:49:04.918 --> 00:49:05.608
Not Mulberry.

00:49:05.608 --> 00:49:09.179
No, it's only in, it's only in Greeley and also in Longmont.

00:49:09.208 --> 00:49:09.599
Okay.

00:49:09.628 --> 00:49:15.148
And then we also have something that's a little bit, uh, it's more like the Casey's car wash experience from back in the day.

00:49:15.148 --> 00:49:15.449
Yeah.

00:49:15.449 --> 00:49:15.509
Yeah.

00:49:15.509 --> 00:49:17.009
And, and, um, or maybe still.

00:49:17.099 --> 00:49:17.278
Yeah.

00:49:17.278 --> 00:49:17.548
Yeah.

00:49:17.548 --> 00:49:17.789
Yeah.

00:49:17.789 --> 00:49:25.168
And, and, and Jeremy over at Casey's does a fabulous job, uh, and, um, that's more of a full service.

00:49:25.173 --> 00:49:25.559
Right, right.

00:49:25.559 --> 00:49:32.188
Where you can go in, you can get a detail, you drop your car off a proper detail, but they, they also offer some of the similar services we do as well.

00:49:32.458 --> 00:49:32.759
Okay.

00:49:32.759 --> 00:49:32.760
Gotcha.

00:49:32.818 --> 00:49:41.128
And so you copied them and, you know, and, and I'm friends with Jeremy and, and man, I, I love what he's doing.

00:49:41.128 --> 00:49:43.889
I love how he's participating in the community like we do.

00:49:43.893 --> 00:49:44.134
Yeah.

00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:44.338
Yeah.

00:49:44.458 --> 00:49:45.688
I'm, I'm a big fan of them.

00:49:46.018 --> 00:49:46.259
Fair.

00:49:46.829 --> 00:49:46.918
Yeah.

00:49:46.918 --> 00:49:46.922
I like that.

00:49:47.009 --> 00:49:48.208
I love that kind of, uh.

00:49:48.974 --> 00:49:50.443
Cooperation, I suppose.

00:49:50.489 --> 00:49:51.943
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:52.063 --> 00:49:52.543
I dig it.

00:49:52.873 --> 00:50:05.623
Um, and so yeah, that model of having that, that membership pass, do you some, are some car wash locations like way busier than others in terms of like the percentage of people that wash regularly?

00:50:05.864 --> 00:50:06.974
Um, yeah.

00:50:06.974 --> 00:50:10.423
I mean, in our markets, uh, yeah.

00:50:10.543 --> 00:50:15.193
I mean, you know, over in Greeley we, we get a lot of volume over in Greeley.

00:50:15.284 --> 00:50:15.403
Gotcha.

00:50:15.403 --> 00:50:15.523
Yeah.

00:50:15.523 --> 00:50:17.233
There's a lot of folks washing cars over there.

00:50:17.264 --> 00:50:17.594
Yeah.

00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:17.619
Yeah.

00:50:18.014 --> 00:50:23.474
Um, well, and it's, the thing I think is cool is that it actually defends value, right?

00:50:23.474 --> 00:50:32.804
Like, cars depreciate slower if they're kept clean, they, they absorb less heat energy from our Colorado sun when they're clean and therefore fade slower.

00:50:33.344 --> 00:50:33.614
Yeah.

00:50:33.614 --> 00:50:43.543
I mean, we're all, that we're a mile, you know, we're a mile high here, so the, the sun is pretty brutal on, on, on vehicles, but it is a, you know, you bring up, uh, something pretty interesting.

00:50:43.543 --> 00:50:49.603
It, it is maintenance, you know, during, you know, during all the, the, the covid shutdowns and all that kind of stuff.

00:50:49.603 --> 00:50:55.304
You know, one of the essential businesses, uh, to stay open was maintenance shops.

00:50:55.304 --> 00:50:55.664
Sure, sure.

00:50:55.934 --> 00:50:57.134
We were a maintenance shop.

00:50:57.193 --> 00:50:57.898
Right, right, right.

00:50:57.903 --> 00:51:00.224
You're, you're, you're maintaining your vehicle, right?

00:51:00.253 --> 00:51:01.364
Well, I bet you were pretty slow.

00:51:01.364 --> 00:51:04.603
Um, and everybody had a membership, so it didn't really matter that much.

00:51:04.603 --> 00:51:08.114
We, yeah, we were, we were slower for a few months.

00:51:08.114 --> 00:51:09.523
I mean, nobody drove around, right.

00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:11.264
That, that was a gaunt man.

00:51:11.264 --> 00:51:13.724
I had to, I I, I am looking back at it.

00:51:13.753 --> 00:51:17.384
I mean, I've worked every day for like, three months straight.

00:51:17.534 --> 00:51:17.804
Really?

00:51:18.074 --> 00:51:18.344
Right.

00:51:18.344 --> 00:51:24.974
Because it was just kinda interesting'cause it's like, you know, we're competing with other people, but we're, we're, we're friends with'em.

00:51:25.034 --> 00:51:35.443
Um, so, you know what we all got together as, uh, as, uh, competitors and said, you know, if you're gonna do something special to combat this covid stuff, we will too.

00:51:35.443 --> 00:51:40.753
So one, one of our competitors said, Hey, we we're gonna shut down the vacuums'cause of the spacing thing.

00:51:40.753 --> 00:51:53.893
And it wasn't really something we wanted to do, but we wanted to, you know, you know, we wanted to make sure that, you know, we're not keeping ours open to have a competitive advantage over this guy during this kind of period that was of not knowing.

00:51:53.893 --> 00:51:58.454
So we, we, we all got together and we, we did kind of the same thing at the same time.

00:51:59.173 --> 00:52:01.809
Um, and, um, but then what they call that collusion?

00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:05.893
Yeah, no, like I couldn't get vacuums anywhere now just, well, yeah.

00:52:05.949 --> 00:52:06.329
I'm teasing.

00:52:06.614 --> 00:52:07.003
Yeah.

00:52:07.003 --> 00:52:07.393
Oh yeah, yeah.

00:52:07.398 --> 00:52:07.728
But no, I get it.

00:52:07.733 --> 00:52:11.114
I know you are, but it was, but you know, it was like, Hey, I'm, we're wanting to do this.

00:52:11.114 --> 00:52:12.014
Will you do it too?

00:52:12.014 --> 00:52:13.304
And then we came together and.

00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:21.239
I mean, that was, you know, everybody was super stressed at that time, but I Oh, for sure mean in, in our department too, we handle a lot of the backend support.

00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:25.168
So it was nonstop me having to answer questions.

00:52:25.409 --> 00:52:25.498
Mm-hmm.

00:52:25.739 --> 00:52:30.509
And people, you know, I'm not getting the same value and I'm like, this is, yeah, you probably get, this is a weird time.

00:52:30.509 --> 00:52:31.259
Right, right.

00:52:31.259 --> 00:52:33.659
We're doing the same thing our competitors are doing.

00:52:33.688 --> 00:52:35.369
And that was the fair thing to do.

00:52:35.369 --> 00:52:37.438
And I, that, that's one thing I love about this company.

00:52:37.438 --> 00:52:43.079
It's, you know, we really look at that ethically and we, you know, and especially during that weird time.

00:52:43.139 --> 00:52:43.710
Yeah, yeah.

00:52:43.858 --> 00:52:47.128
You know, we, we, we did the same thing everybody else did.

00:52:47.188 --> 00:52:49.318
Do you wanna talk about the, the leadership team at all?

00:52:49.318 --> 00:52:55.739
Do you wanna give some kudos or, uh, shout outs at all to the rest of your partners that are in the head office?

00:52:55.768 --> 00:52:56.159
Oh, yeah.

00:52:56.164 --> 00:52:57.929
Is that within your purview you allowed?

00:52:58.228 --> 00:53:04.123
Yeah, I mean, we've got, uh, I mean, our president, uh, y'all, y'all probably know Justin Salisbury for sure.

00:53:04.128 --> 00:53:04.228
Yeah.

00:53:04.259 --> 00:53:05.219
Um, great.

00:53:05.219 --> 00:53:18.028
He, one thing I really respect about Justin Salisbury is he's, he's really big into, uh, leadership and he actually runs an organization within the car wash industry called Leadership Worth Following.

00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:18.719
Oh, cool.

00:53:18.809 --> 00:53:24.028
And what that does is it's, it's, I saw him talk about that a little bit at a chamber event or something like that.

00:53:24.028 --> 00:53:24.362
Yeah, you probably did.

00:53:24.362 --> 00:53:24.362
Yeah.

00:53:24.733 --> 00:53:30.853
And I think that's really cool because it's, what it's doing is it's not just bringing up people from our team.

00:53:31.483 --> 00:53:34.393
Um, it's bringing up the car wash industry.

00:53:34.454 --> 00:53:34.724
Yeah.

00:53:34.784 --> 00:53:35.023
Right.

00:53:35.023 --> 00:53:39.463
Because for the longest time, and I think we're real, the car wash industry's breaking out of the stigma.

00:53:40.123 --> 00:53:44.534
Um, but it was like, oh, car wash is, yeah, it's a Oh yeah, it's a cover coverup for Draw.

00:53:44.563 --> 00:53:46.034
Can't get a job at McDonald's.

00:53:46.034 --> 00:53:47.143
Yeah, yeah.

00:53:47.143 --> 00:53:48.943
Oh, they're professional.

00:53:48.943 --> 00:53:49.304
Right.

00:53:49.304 --> 00:53:51.974
You know, it's like Breaking Bad hasn't helped us out at all.

00:53:51.974 --> 00:53:52.304
Right.

00:53:52.304 --> 00:53:58.664
I mean, there was literally one point where we had to go in and make a video about what you're gonna be doing at the car wash.

00:53:58.724 --> 00:54:00.373
'cause it ain't breaking bad.

00:54:00.434 --> 00:54:00.974
You know what I mean?

00:54:00.974 --> 00:54:01.483
Forgot about that.

00:54:01.724 --> 00:54:02.173
Yeah.

00:54:02.233 --> 00:54:06.614
But I, you know, I really respect Justin, uh, and, and, and.

00:54:07.184 --> 00:54:08.233
All areas.

00:54:08.324 --> 00:54:10.784
Um, you know, he is a good friend of mine.

00:54:10.784 --> 00:54:16.423
He really, you know, we hold each other super accountable and we, we kind of manage each other up a lot.

00:54:16.574 --> 00:54:16.784
Cool.

00:54:17.023 --> 00:54:26.773
Um, but I really respect the fact that he's super into leadership and he's not only bringing, you know, our company up as far as leadership, but he's bringing the whole industry up.

00:54:26.833 --> 00:54:27.043
Yeah.

00:54:27.224 --> 00:54:32.804
You know, um, the majority owners, John, Janice, Andrea, tons of respect for all of'em.

00:54:33.014 --> 00:54:33.284
Okay.

00:54:33.554 --> 00:54:39.884
Um, I mean, I, I think of John and like I always call him John was who recruited you in originally?

00:54:39.884 --> 00:54:41.773
Yeah, he was one when, when I first met.

00:54:42.313 --> 00:54:46.123
Um, you know, I always, John and Janice, they're, they're married.

00:54:46.603 --> 00:54:46.634
Okay.

00:54:46.664 --> 00:54:48.224
And then Andrea is John's sister.

00:54:48.224 --> 00:54:55.273
But, uh, I always, always think it's funny because it's like, I consider them my Colorado mom and dad because Oh, wow.

00:54:55.304 --> 00:55:05.983
You know, even though they're not that much older than me, but I mean, I can go to John about investment, uh, advice, you know, looking at profit loss statements, marriage discussions.

00:55:06.043 --> 00:55:08.744
Oh, oh, yes, yes.

00:55:08.923 --> 00:55:10.063
Tons of, I mean.

00:55:10.483 --> 00:55:13.393
If Yeah, tons of marriage discussions.

00:55:13.969 --> 00:55:18.253
I, I, I really respect, uh, all of them tremendously.

00:55:18.313 --> 00:55:25.963
I mean, there's been times too where, you know, I've really needed something, uh, really for my, my own, um, mental health.

00:55:26.054 --> 00:55:26.204
Yeah.

00:55:26.208 --> 00:55:28.454
And, and John's been there for me.

00:55:28.454 --> 00:55:29.954
John Angen, both.

00:55:30.224 --> 00:55:38.684
So is the leadership team largely you and Justin Elsewise, like, uh, we've got, and then seven of us, all those site managers, I guess.

00:55:38.923 --> 00:55:39.253
Okay.

00:55:39.434 --> 00:55:39.583
Yeah.

00:55:39.583 --> 00:55:43.753
We've got, uh, um, uh, well, the regional managers.

00:55:43.934 --> 00:55:44.648
The regional managers, right.

00:55:44.653 --> 00:55:45.344
The three region managers.

00:55:45.373 --> 00:55:45.523
Yeah.

00:55:45.568 --> 00:55:50.563
They, they, Justin, yeah, they kind of, they come in, um, uh, every other meeting.

00:55:50.713 --> 00:55:51.043
I see.

00:55:51.074 --> 00:55:55.514
But for the most part, it's, um, a majority of the, the owners Yeah.

00:55:55.518 --> 00:55:55.528
Yeah.

00:55:55.574 --> 00:55:56.893
That are in that as well.

00:55:56.893 --> 00:56:07.213
But, uh, yeah, we've, we've got, uh, president, CEO, VP of administration, administration, assistant hr, director of maintenance, brand manager.

00:56:07.364 --> 00:56:07.664
Okay.

00:56:07.664 --> 00:56:07.724
Yeah.

00:56:07.753 --> 00:56:09.193
Uh, and director of training.

00:56:09.193 --> 00:56:09.494
Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:56:09.494 --> 00:56:11.414
Director of maintenance is a big, big job.

00:56:11.623 --> 00:56:12.434
It's a huge job.

00:56:12.434 --> 00:56:13.873
HR director, probably a big job.

00:56:13.934 --> 00:56:20.833
And, and Kenny Harmon is our head of, of maintenance and does an outstanding job, right?

00:56:20.864 --> 00:56:20.923
Yeah.

00:56:20.923 --> 00:56:28.423
He is, you know, you know out, I forget which, uh, what, what the program's called, but you know, where he was like, this person's a talker.

00:56:28.423 --> 00:56:30.043
This person's a supporter, this person.

00:56:30.043 --> 00:56:31.724
I mean, he is, he is Enneagram, maybe.

00:56:31.813 --> 00:56:32.293
What's that?

00:56:32.594 --> 00:56:33.673
Enneagram or a different one?

00:56:33.673 --> 00:56:39.344
Yeah, I, I forget what it's called, but he is a doer and he is also, he gets a doer, a super supporter.

00:56:39.344 --> 00:56:39.373
Oh.

00:56:39.614 --> 00:56:40.034
And.

00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:40.918
Yeah.

00:56:40.918 --> 00:56:44.579
But we, we've, we've got a really, really great team.

00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:44.728
Cool.

00:56:44.728 --> 00:56:45.509
I am, I am.

00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:48.119
Uh, I mean, I can't say anything negative about any of them.

00:56:48.389 --> 00:56:48.778
I like it.

00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:54.028
And the professionalism piece that happens in our meetings, right.

00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.389
It just is, stands out above everything.

00:56:57.389 --> 00:56:57.838
That's cool.

00:56:58.108 --> 00:57:02.068
It's really neat to be part of a company that you invested in fully.

00:57:02.338 --> 00:57:02.668
Yeah.

00:57:02.668 --> 00:57:12.929
And, uh, you know, I don't bring a lot of non-owners on and, but I really enjoyed, you know, getting acquainted with your story and your brand and, and, uh, and your personal journey.

00:57:12.929 --> 00:57:16.768
And so we're gonna come back from a break and go back to Alabama.

00:57:17.188 --> 00:57:17.728
Rock and roll.

00:57:17.789 --> 00:57:18.268
Okay.

00:57:18.509 --> 00:57:18.809
Alright.

00:58:11.498 --> 00:58:12.759
And we're back.

00:58:13.478 --> 00:58:16.449
So, um, I thought when we, when I.

00:58:16.869 --> 00:58:19.119
Was taking a break just now that we should talk about music.

00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:19.958
Love it.

00:58:20.048 --> 00:58:21.699
I know that's a big part of your life as well.

00:58:21.969 --> 00:58:22.298
Yeah.

00:58:22.838 --> 00:58:26.708
Um, are you actively in a music thing now?

00:58:27.219 --> 00:58:28.778
I've got a couple of things going on.

00:58:28.838 --> 00:58:29.378
Um, okay.

00:58:29.409 --> 00:58:31.958
You know, right now we have a, a dad band going on.

00:58:31.989 --> 00:58:32.498
Okay.

00:58:33.009 --> 00:58:37.083
Uh, we're called the, uh, the dfs, the ds?

00:58:37.273 --> 00:58:39.009
Yeah, the DITs, like the dad.

00:58:39.009 --> 00:58:41.318
I, no, no, no, no.

00:58:41.318 --> 00:58:42.099
Somebody told me it.

00:58:42.309 --> 00:58:44.804
Somebody told me that it's your name.

00:58:44.994 --> 00:58:46.179
Well, no, it doesn't stand for that.

00:58:46.179 --> 00:58:48.548
It stands for the devoted involved Loving Fathers.

00:58:48.608 --> 00:58:49.329
Oh, yeah.

00:58:49.329 --> 00:58:51.369
Somebody told me it stood for something different.

00:58:51.369 --> 00:58:55.778
So I, I've been, uh, yeah, I've been, uh, called a bil before.

00:58:55.929 --> 00:58:56.228
Oh, okay.

00:58:56.228 --> 00:58:56.528
Gotcha.

00:58:56.528 --> 00:58:57.068
Uh, it's a beard.

00:58:57.068 --> 00:58:58.059
I'd love to fondle.

00:58:58.179 --> 00:58:58.778
Oh, okay.

00:58:58.838 --> 00:59:02.259
Uh, which my wife wasn't impressed when I told her that story, but, uh, yeah.

00:59:02.318 --> 00:59:03.128
DFS is nice.

00:59:03.134 --> 00:59:05.588
Devoted, devoted, devoted, involved, loving fathers.

00:59:05.588 --> 00:59:06.398
Oh, that's pretty nice.

00:59:06.398 --> 00:59:11.588
I don't, it, it, it's, it's kind of a dead thing that we're doing with our friends right now, so it's kind of a jam, a practice.

00:59:11.588 --> 00:59:12.278
We just have fun.

00:59:12.278 --> 00:59:13.059
You've been in public yet?

00:59:13.463 --> 00:59:14.994
Um, no, not yet.

00:59:14.994 --> 00:59:17.634
Yeah, I mean it's Who are the other Ds in your life?

00:59:17.634 --> 00:59:21.414
Oh, my buddy Chad that a raft guy with.

00:59:21.414 --> 00:59:21.563
Sure.

00:59:21.563 --> 00:59:23.813
My buddy Jeff, he's a firefighter.

00:59:23.844 --> 00:59:27.893
Um, I, my, uh, John who's a regional manager with us.

00:59:27.893 --> 00:59:32.123
And then, uh, my buddy Chris, the brand manager I was talking about earlier today.

00:59:32.184 --> 00:59:32.664
Nice.

00:59:32.753 --> 00:59:35.123
Amazing, amazing graphic designer guy.

00:59:35.393 --> 00:59:37.494
So I kind of messed around with that a little bit.

00:59:37.494 --> 00:59:38.693
I have another thing going on.

00:59:38.693 --> 00:59:39.115
And what do you do?

00:59:39.121 --> 00:59:40.853
What's your, what's your instrument?

00:59:40.974 --> 00:59:43.463
Oh, uh, guitar in that right now.

00:59:43.494 --> 00:59:43.764
Yeah.

00:59:43.764 --> 00:59:46.313
I played bass for a long time in town.

00:59:46.313 --> 00:59:46.315
Okay.

00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:54.893
I was in, and then, um, after I took about a 10 year break, um, I, uh, started concentrating on guitar, so I'm working on that.

00:59:54.923 --> 00:59:59.844
It's like come, it's been coming soon for like two years, but, uh, yeah, we'll be doing something.

01:00:00.173 --> 01:00:00.563
Okay.

01:00:00.773 --> 01:00:00.983
Alright.

01:00:00.983 --> 01:00:06.173
Before too long, maybe you would play for like super cheap for a local think tank social or something like that sometime.

01:00:06.204 --> 01:00:10.704
Yeah, we could, yeah, we could, you could have a very big budget for the band, but we always like live music.

01:00:10.733 --> 01:00:11.003
Yeah.

01:00:11.003 --> 01:00:13.074
We just, we just need somebody to give us a shot.

01:00:13.074 --> 01:00:18.744
But, uh, I played with another guy named, uh, uh, Chris Mu in town and we played down at Lucky Joe's.

01:00:18.963 --> 01:00:19.324
Okay.

01:00:19.594 --> 01:00:19.864
Yeah.

01:00:19.864 --> 01:00:21.188
That Do the things you play or?

01:00:21.193 --> 01:00:22.469
Yeah, we both, we both play play.

01:00:22.469 --> 01:00:23.525
You both play and, yeah.

01:00:23.530 --> 01:00:24.034
Do you sing too?

01:00:24.454 --> 01:00:25.083
I don't sing.

01:00:25.083 --> 01:00:25.503
No.

01:00:25.503 --> 01:00:25.804
No.

01:00:25.804 --> 01:00:27.664
Working towards it, but, okay.

01:00:27.994 --> 01:00:36.003
But then, um, then I play with, uh, and I have kind of a house jam that we do a couple Sundays outta the month with a local musician.

01:00:36.003 --> 01:00:37.773
His name's, uh, Carlton Pride.

01:00:38.014 --> 01:00:38.403
Oh, yeah.

01:00:38.434 --> 01:00:38.853
Yeah.

01:00:38.914 --> 01:00:41.434
So I, yeah, I've been told I need to go see Carls and Pride.

01:00:41.554 --> 01:00:42.213
It's, uh, yeah.

01:00:42.304 --> 01:00:42.873
What's his name?

01:00:42.873 --> 01:00:44.193
Charlie Pride's kid.

01:00:44.344 --> 01:00:44.764
Yeah.

01:00:44.793 --> 01:00:45.333
Yeah.

01:00:45.423 --> 01:00:45.664
Yeah.

01:00:45.664 --> 01:00:49.054
He's, uh, he's been a mentor to me for a long time.

01:00:49.054 --> 01:00:49.143
Oh, wow.

01:00:49.173 --> 01:00:50.614
He was my neighbor and it was fun.

01:00:50.614 --> 01:00:52.293
I got to meet Charlie one time.

01:00:52.353 --> 01:00:52.474
Oh.

01:00:52.474 --> 01:00:54.543
Uh, when my, when my daughter was super young.

01:00:54.664 --> 01:00:55.114
Oh, wow.

01:00:55.353 --> 01:00:56.583
Uh, she was, uh.

01:00:58.043 --> 01:01:01.704
Uh, Carl or Charlie was over at Carlton's house and asked me if I wanted to come over.

01:01:01.704 --> 01:01:02.454
I was like, oh, heck yeah.

01:01:02.454 --> 01:01:03.833
I wanna hang out with Charlie Pride.

01:01:04.164 --> 01:01:12.324
So we actually sat on a couch together like this for about three hours and we watched, uh, Texas Rangers baseball and then, um Oh wow.

01:01:12.324 --> 01:01:18.083
And also Judge Judy, they were, him and his wife were a big fan of Judge Judy and we watched, it was fun.

01:01:18.179 --> 01:01:18.398
Fun.

01:01:18.534 --> 01:01:23.244
But I, I regret it'cause it's like he was holding my daughter when she was a little baby and stuff.

01:01:23.244 --> 01:01:23.273
Oh.

01:01:23.273 --> 01:01:25.134
I was like, I should have got a picture of Right.

01:01:25.193 --> 01:01:25.853
You know, that.

01:01:25.853 --> 01:01:27.474
But Charlie was super cool.

01:01:27.563 --> 01:01:28.103
I'm sure.

01:01:28.134 --> 01:01:28.284
Yeah.

01:01:28.289 --> 01:01:31.733
I mean, he, he passed away a couple years ago, but super cool man.

01:01:31.733 --> 01:01:36.023
That was Carlton a full-time musician and just does this kind of jam thing from time to time.

01:01:36.148 --> 01:01:36.438
Yeah.

01:01:36.563 --> 01:01:36.833
Yeah.

01:01:36.833 --> 01:01:37.673
It's, you know, we do.

01:01:37.673 --> 01:01:38.543
He lives here though.

01:01:38.603 --> 01:01:39.599
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:39.603 --> 01:01:39.744
Okay.

01:01:39.744 --> 01:01:40.224
He does.

01:01:40.224 --> 01:01:44.784
And um, we knew him'cause we were neighbors and he should be on my podcast at some point.

01:01:44.784 --> 01:01:49.284
Yeah, he would be an interesting, I'm sure he's got some really, really cool stories.

01:01:49.313 --> 01:01:52.434
Well, in deep Roots in Old Nashville Right.

01:01:52.434 --> 01:01:52.639
Or whatever.

01:01:53.153 --> 01:01:53.963
He was in Dallas.

01:01:53.963 --> 01:01:54.114
Yeah.

01:01:54.114 --> 01:01:54.443
Dallas.

01:01:54.443 --> 01:01:54.773
Okay.

01:01:54.773 --> 01:01:54.983
Yeah.

01:01:54.989 --> 01:01:57.954
Oh, so that's, uh, Texas based is where Charlie Pride was from.

01:01:58.014 --> 01:01:58.373
Yep.

01:01:58.434 --> 01:01:58.673
Yep.

01:01:58.704 --> 01:01:58.914
Okay.

01:01:58.914 --> 01:02:00.264
Yeah, if he's, yeah.

01:02:00.264 --> 01:02:00.503
Yeah.

01:02:00.503 --> 01:02:01.403
And presumably, yeah.

01:02:01.494 --> 01:02:02.304
Yeah.

01:02:02.753 --> 01:02:09.414
Well, um, but he's got, he's got a lot of stories of, with interactions with a lot of famous musicians.

01:02:09.414 --> 01:02:09.414
Yeah.

01:02:09.420 --> 01:02:09.503
Yeah.

01:02:09.503 --> 01:02:11.634
He'd be an interesting one to bring on the show sometime.

01:02:11.634 --> 01:02:11.784
For sure.

01:02:11.784 --> 01:02:14.963
Well, if you're listening to this, uh, Carlton on I'm open.

01:02:15.114 --> 01:02:15.563
Yeah.

01:02:15.563 --> 01:02:15.893
Yeah.

01:02:15.983 --> 01:02:16.884
I'll share'em the link.

01:02:17.273 --> 01:02:17.784
Fair enough.

01:02:17.963 --> 01:02:18.173
Yeah.

01:02:18.204 --> 01:02:20.994
So, um, so you dabble here and there.

01:02:20.994 --> 01:02:21.983
Do you like.

01:02:22.778 --> 01:02:24.398
Do you ever take money for it?

01:02:24.458 --> 01:02:30.009
Sometimes not, not much When we, when were in, never with the expectation of profit.

01:02:30.128 --> 01:02:30.579
Right.

01:02:30.579 --> 01:02:30.818
Right.

01:02:30.818 --> 01:02:39.338
That's kind of the, but um, back in the day when we played a lot, but like right now,'cause I'm getting back into it, I had to take a break for like 10 years.

01:02:39.338 --> 01:02:39.340
Mm-hmm.

01:02:39.429 --> 01:02:42.849
I mean, the business needs were taken over.

01:02:42.849 --> 01:02:51.188
We had a second child and I had to, there was a time when we were down at the swing station and I saw my buddies driving up to the river with their kayaks on top of the car.

01:02:51.188 --> 01:02:52.838
And I'm like, I'm playing a gig right now.

01:02:52.838 --> 01:02:55.329
It's two o'clock in the afternoon, they're going boating.

01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:56.949
It's like I gotta eliminate something.

01:02:56.949 --> 01:02:59.949
So I eliminated something and it's been about 10 years, so I'm trying to get back into it.

01:02:59.978 --> 01:03:00.489
Okay, cool.

01:03:00.849 --> 01:03:07.208
And because of the fusion, holding a 13 pound base over my shoulder for hours at a time Yeah.

01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:08.108
Started to hurt me.

01:03:08.108 --> 01:03:08.858
So that's why.

01:03:09.248 --> 01:03:09.579
Interesting.

01:03:09.579 --> 01:03:12.998
That's one of another reasons why I transitioned trying to transition over to guitar.

01:03:12.998 --> 01:03:14.318
But yeah.

01:03:14.318 --> 01:03:15.909
We'll be doing something soon.

01:03:15.938 --> 01:03:22.208
It was funny, I was telling, I was at, earlier today, I was down at KRFC'cause I, we, we do a lot with KRFC Oh.

01:03:22.329 --> 01:03:30.278
And we're, um, and so I was, uh, down there talking with them and there was this meme, you know how they do the memes on of the Halloween costumes and stuff.

01:03:30.278 --> 01:03:30.489
Sure.

01:03:30.518 --> 01:03:39.728
And it's like, you know, you know, it's like mid middle age musician and they, there's these couple of bullet points and one of the bullet points was like, coming soon.

01:03:39.728 --> 01:03:41.619
I was like, yeah, I've been saying that for like two years.

01:03:42.128 --> 01:03:42.548
Yeah.

01:03:42.608 --> 01:03:46.989
You know, one thing though, I, I love the old guy bands around here.

01:03:47.438 --> 01:03:47.498
Yeah.

01:03:47.498 --> 01:03:47.708
Like, there's.

01:03:48.384 --> 01:03:53.228
Kind of a, a, a number of different kind of groups that are kind of garage bandy things, but yeah.

01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:55.719
The, those guys do great work.

01:03:55.989 --> 01:03:56.289
Yeah.

01:03:56.349 --> 01:04:00.489
You know, it's not the same as that, that 24-year-old angst kind of thing.

01:04:00.489 --> 01:04:13.809
But it, it has a, what, you know, when I went golfing years ago, there was these guys that were like, well, you, you've had a, have a golf coach to teach you how to golf, but we'll teach you how to score.

01:04:14.139 --> 01:04:14.498
Yeah.

01:04:15.009 --> 01:04:17.199
Uh, and it's different than knowing how to golf.

01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:20.858
It's like not making big mistakes, figuring out how the crowd works.

01:04:20.858 --> 01:04:23.409
A little bit like some of those old guy tricks just really worked good.

01:04:23.889 --> 01:04:31.509
Well, if it's interesting, um, a good friend of mine is, uh, Lance Ruby, which you may know Lance, he plays in a lot of the Bagram Good.

01:04:31.509 --> 01:04:31.989
And the painters.

01:04:32.108 --> 01:04:32.228
Sure.

01:04:32.679 --> 01:04:34.119
I know Grandma Sugar Britches.

01:04:34.208 --> 01:04:34.509
Oh, sure.

01:04:34.628 --> 01:04:35.498
I've seen both of those.

01:04:35.588 --> 01:04:38.588
Um, musketeer Grip Weed, he's the guitar player of all those.

01:04:38.588 --> 01:04:38.708
Oh, yeah.

01:04:38.708 --> 01:04:39.639
You know, all these bands, right?

01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:40.148
Yeah, for sure.

01:04:40.148 --> 01:04:40.389
Yeah.

01:04:40.389 --> 01:04:42.128
I've known Ben from Musketeer Forever.

01:04:42.188 --> 01:04:42.639
Oh yeah.

01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:43.028
Yeah.

01:04:43.028 --> 01:04:50.889
And so we were, we went to a, um, nuggets game last, uh, Friday night, and I was kind of, I was telling him about me podcasting.

01:04:50.889 --> 01:04:50.994
Oh, okay.

01:04:50.994 --> 01:04:56.079
So I was, I was kinda asking him a bunch of questions just to see if I can kind of like carry on an interview kinda like this.

01:04:56.079 --> 01:05:00.369
And, uh, one thing he was talking about was like, when he was younger, he, uh.

01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:05.978
He said when he really started to develop his chops is when he started playing with people twice his age.

01:05:06.068 --> 01:05:06.188
Hmm.

01:05:06.219 --> 01:05:06.579
Right.

01:05:06.583 --> 01:05:06.704
Mm-hmm.

01:05:06.789 --> 01:05:08.048
And it's kinda like what you're talking about.

01:05:08.048 --> 01:05:08.108
Yeah.

01:05:08.108 --> 01:05:09.579
It's like the golfers how to score.

01:05:09.579 --> 01:05:09.938
Right.

01:05:09.938 --> 01:05:10.103
You know?

01:05:10.193 --> 01:05:10.543
Right.

01:05:10.543 --> 01:05:12.489
You learn how to play a note, but how do you Yeah.

01:05:12.489 --> 01:05:13.623
Like how do you, how do you do intention?

01:05:13.623 --> 01:05:15.009
And, and there's a lot of things, right?

01:05:15.009 --> 01:05:21.699
Like there's the band dynamic, um, which is, you know, you gotta have people in there that, that can jive together.

01:05:21.699 --> 01:05:21.789
Mm-hmm.

01:05:22.103 --> 01:05:27.969
You know, one of these terms that you hear sometimes is like, lead singers that have LSD, which stands for lead singers disease.

01:05:27.969 --> 01:05:29.559
You know, you wanna kind of avoid that.

01:05:29.588 --> 01:05:30.849
Kinda like Napoleon syndrome.

01:05:30.938 --> 01:05:31.539
It's different.

01:05:31.543 --> 01:05:31.583
Yeah.

01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:31.989
Yeah.

01:05:31.994 --> 01:05:40.778
And he, he also talked about, uh, you know, it, it's good to, you know, uh, have band members that have multiple talents, like, and I was like, oh, interesting.

01:05:40.778 --> 01:05:41.139
Like what?

01:05:41.139 --> 01:05:45.909
He's like, you know, somebody that can do social media as long and also play an instrument, that kind of stuff.

01:05:45.914 --> 01:05:46.023
Mm-hmm.

01:05:46.329 --> 01:05:52.778
And the other thing, it was like, you know, play with a lot of different people so you can build a bench and also see different styles.

01:05:53.168 --> 01:05:53.259
Mm-hmm.

01:05:53.260 --> 01:05:57.278
And you know, a lot of musicians, I know they have like three different projects going at once.

01:05:57.548 --> 01:05:57.699
Right.

01:05:57.744 --> 01:06:01.704
'cause you never know when one's gonna end and then another one's gonna start and that kind of stuff.

01:06:01.744 --> 01:06:03.398
I don't know how you guys make room for it.

01:06:03.398 --> 01:06:13.179
Like, I'm actually a, a, like, humbly when, when I'm singing at church, I'm one of the top 10 male voices in the room.

01:06:13.208 --> 01:06:13.358
Right.

01:06:13.358 --> 01:06:16.809
Like, I got a pretty good singing voice, but I've never learned how to play guitar.

01:06:16.989 --> 01:06:17.318
Yeah.

01:06:17.378 --> 01:06:19.028
And so I'm a little jealous.

01:06:19.358 --> 01:06:22.329
Um, and like, where am I gonna fit it?

01:06:23.304 --> 01:06:24.474
Like, what, what do I cut?

01:06:24.474 --> 01:06:28.313
What things do I cut out to spend eight hours a week playing guitar?

01:06:28.673 --> 01:06:29.213
Right.

01:06:29.454 --> 01:06:32.454
Well, it's you, you kinda have to like make a decision, right?

01:06:32.454 --> 01:06:32.693
Yeah.

01:06:32.693 --> 01:06:38.393
And, and like, like with the, with the dead band, you know, it's kinda like we're all, you know, we're all priority.

01:06:38.398 --> 01:06:39.143
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:39.293 --> 01:06:40.554
The vote involved, loving father.

01:06:40.554 --> 01:06:41.784
Just wanna make sure that sticks.

01:06:42.293 --> 01:06:46.824
Uh, but I heard a laugh come from the other room when we said it earlier.

01:06:46.824 --> 01:06:47.603
That's pretty funny.

01:06:48.023 --> 01:06:48.384
Yeah.

01:06:48.813 --> 01:06:51.813
Well we we're, we, you know, we all have, we're all dead.

01:06:51.813 --> 01:06:51.873
Yeah.

01:06:51.873 --> 01:06:52.204
Real time.

01:06:52.204 --> 01:06:52.353
Right.

01:06:52.353 --> 01:06:54.333
If you're devoted, blah loving father.

01:06:54.333 --> 01:06:54.724
Right.

01:06:54.724 --> 01:06:57.333
You need to prioritize family first.

01:06:57.333 --> 01:06:57.423
Yep.

01:06:57.844 --> 01:06:58.353
Right.

01:06:58.353 --> 01:06:58.878
You know, that kind of stuff.

01:06:58.878 --> 01:07:00.244
That probably a real job too.

01:07:00.273 --> 01:07:00.693
Right.

01:07:00.693 --> 01:07:00.695
Right.

01:07:00.724 --> 01:07:02.164
But it is gotta be a mindset.

01:07:02.164 --> 01:07:03.903
It's like, you know, this is what I focus on.

01:07:03.903 --> 01:07:04.438
You know what I mean?

01:07:04.438 --> 01:07:04.639
Yeah.

01:07:04.653 --> 01:07:05.434
This is what I focus on.

01:07:05.434 --> 01:07:08.853
So I, I I go home and I play basically every single night.

01:07:08.884 --> 01:07:09.184
Really?

01:07:09.184 --> 01:07:11.193
'cause I, I feel like I'm making up for lost time.

01:07:11.224 --> 01:07:11.643
Yeah.

01:07:11.704 --> 01:07:11.914
Yeah.

01:07:11.914 --> 01:07:12.483
You know what I mean?

01:07:12.483 --> 01:07:16.534
So is that kind of your, like, for me, honestly, that's cooking dinner.

01:07:16.983 --> 01:07:17.554
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:26.373
Like I'm, that's where I express my creativity a lot is just figuring out what to, I made John Alaya last night, you know, on a Monday, uh, and it was delicious.

01:07:26.809 --> 01:07:27.949
Oh, nice.

01:07:27.949 --> 01:07:30.259
You know, so for me that has been my creative outlet.

01:07:30.259 --> 01:07:34.849
A little bit question, do you ever use AI to come up with recipes?

01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:35.929
No.

01:07:36.289 --> 01:07:47.659
It is funny, my buddy Chris that I've, I've talked about Yeah, the brand manager guy, he, he talked about, he was like, I go home and he is like, I look, I, it goes, I look in the, I look in my pantry and I was like, okay, I've got this and this and this and this.

01:07:47.764 --> 01:07:48.054
Yeah.

01:07:48.259 --> 01:07:51.139
And he drops an AI and it spits out a recipe for him.

01:07:51.228 --> 01:07:55.219
And he is like, and then that way I don't have to like, like, like research something.

01:07:55.219 --> 01:07:56.358
Go to the, or think, yeah.

01:07:56.389 --> 01:07:56.568
Yeah.

01:07:56.568 --> 01:07:59.059
He goes, I don't have, I just use what I have at home.

01:07:59.059 --> 01:08:00.438
I plug it into ai.

01:08:00.469 --> 01:08:01.219
Oh, that sucks.

01:08:01.309 --> 01:08:04.668
And then, because I consider that to be one of my strongest talents Yeah.

01:08:04.668 --> 01:08:11.688
Is like looking at what I've got left in the fridge from, you know, whatever, shopping on Sunday, but now it's Friday.

01:08:11.809 --> 01:08:12.139
Yeah.

01:08:12.349 --> 01:08:13.728
Because I don't really plan meals.

01:08:13.728 --> 01:08:18.798
I, I buy based on sales and what looks nice and, and whatever.

01:08:18.798 --> 01:08:21.378
And then the meals come together from my brain.

01:08:21.469 --> 01:08:21.948
Nice.

01:08:22.158 --> 01:08:27.979
Uh, but if like, if AI could do it better and use up also that other thing.

01:08:28.368 --> 01:08:28.729
Yeah.

01:08:28.729 --> 01:08:29.088
I don't know.

01:08:29.088 --> 01:08:29.628
That's interesting.

01:08:29.658 --> 01:08:30.408
I might have to try it.

01:08:30.529 --> 01:08:33.979
Just plug in what you got the AI and it'll spit out a recipe, huh?

01:08:34.368 --> 01:08:37.668
That is uh, yep.

01:08:38.149 --> 01:08:39.769
None of us are gonna have jobs here.

01:08:39.828 --> 01:08:40.519
Right, right.

01:08:40.519 --> 01:08:41.779
Well, the car wash will have a few.

01:08:42.019 --> 01:08:46.543
Well it's, it's interesting'cause like AI is in the car wash industry, you know, I'm sure.

01:08:46.583 --> 01:08:49.668
I mean that's, that's a lot of the conversation that's going on right now.

01:08:50.118 --> 01:08:54.979
I mean, one thing that's interesting is like a call center.

01:08:55.594 --> 01:08:56.703
AI service now.

01:08:56.734 --> 01:08:57.363
Right.

01:08:57.543 --> 01:08:58.203
Oh, wow.

01:08:58.264 --> 01:09:02.344
And it, and the AI can learn all your stuff really fast.

01:09:02.404 --> 01:09:02.823
Right?

01:09:02.823 --> 01:09:03.123
Right.

01:09:03.123 --> 01:09:05.159
And see one thing that, you know, oh dang, we, yeah.

01:09:05.283 --> 01:09:10.083
So call centers are probably really suffering, or at least will be in five years if they're not already.

01:09:10.144 --> 01:09:10.564
Right?

01:09:10.564 --> 01:09:10.984
Right.

01:09:10.984 --> 01:09:11.434
Yeah.

01:09:11.524 --> 01:09:18.064
I mean, because you gotta train that Filipino person a lot before they, because a lot of'em work for like four or five different companies.

01:09:18.064 --> 01:09:18.274
Right.

01:09:18.274 --> 01:09:19.684
They gotta learn all these things.

01:09:20.134 --> 01:09:21.604
It support stuff like that.

01:09:21.663 --> 01:09:22.113
Yeah.

01:09:22.144 --> 01:09:22.413
Yeah.

01:09:22.413 --> 01:09:23.583
It's very interesting.

01:09:23.644 --> 01:09:32.073
And it's, I mean, like, and even the ai, the, the system that we're vetting out, you could call other companies that are using it right now.

01:09:32.073 --> 01:09:36.213
And you don't even know that you're talking to an AI person.

01:09:36.453 --> 01:09:37.743
I won't mine to sound like Joe Rogan.

01:09:37.948 --> 01:09:39.694
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:09:39.694 --> 01:09:41.253
You've called Loco Think tank.

01:09:41.434 --> 01:09:42.213
Yeah, no, just kidding.

01:09:42.243 --> 01:09:43.953
Might would be Gilbert Godfrey, right?

01:09:44.014 --> 01:09:44.344
Yeah.

01:09:44.344 --> 01:09:44.559
No, no.

01:09:44.564 --> 01:09:47.194
That might have an opposite effect on the customer experience.

01:09:47.194 --> 01:09:48.333
How do enhance trust?

01:09:48.338 --> 01:09:48.439
Yeah.

01:09:48.444 --> 01:09:48.904
Yeah.

01:09:48.904 --> 01:10:00.453
I think maybe, uh, what, oh, what was that guy That, and now the rest of the story, I don't know, from way back when it was a radio show and now you know the rest of the story.

01:10:00.453 --> 01:10:00.814
Oh, yeah.

01:10:00.993 --> 01:10:01.878
I don't know who it is.

01:10:01.878 --> 01:10:02.644
Anyway, I digress.

01:10:02.823 --> 01:10:03.123
Yeah.

01:10:03.184 --> 01:10:04.083
Paul Harvey.

01:10:04.203 --> 01:10:04.743
Paul Harvey.

01:10:04.743 --> 01:10:05.163
Okay.

01:10:05.163 --> 01:10:06.274
I know who you're talking about.

01:10:06.274 --> 01:10:06.845
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:07.354 --> 01:10:08.373
Anyway, I would trust him.

01:10:08.493 --> 01:10:11.613
But it's interesting because it, uh, it could fill a gap too, right?

01:10:11.613 --> 01:10:14.644
Because we're not, you know, we're not answering the phones twenty four seven.

01:10:14.644 --> 01:10:15.198
Oh, right, right.

01:10:15.203 --> 01:10:18.184
But now we have something that can, well, and probably answer.

01:10:19.309 --> 01:10:21.679
90% of the questions that people call in about.

01:10:21.918 --> 01:10:22.309
Right?

01:10:22.309 --> 01:10:22.759
Yeah.

01:10:22.819 --> 01:10:23.088
Yeah.

01:10:23.088 --> 01:10:32.149
And, and what we learned is like, you know, frequently asked questions, you put as much of that stuff on your website as you possibly can because that's where AI's pulling from.

01:10:32.163 --> 01:10:32.583
Oh, sure.

01:10:33.043 --> 01:10:34.759
And so that, oh wow.

01:10:34.788 --> 01:10:35.088
Yeah.

01:10:35.088 --> 01:10:37.788
Something maybe a little nugget for you to take away from this.

01:10:37.793 --> 01:10:38.104
Right.

01:10:38.109 --> 01:10:38.118
Yeah.

01:10:38.179 --> 01:10:43.698
I haven't updated my frequently asked questions since Rory was my employee, like in 20 19, 20 20.

01:10:43.788 --> 01:10:44.359
There you go.

01:10:44.359 --> 01:10:44.748
Right.

01:10:44.748 --> 01:10:45.259
Yeah.

01:10:45.259 --> 01:10:46.488
And it's intriguing, huh?

01:10:46.519 --> 01:10:46.668
Yeah.

01:10:46.668 --> 01:10:56.384
And so anytime we have somebody that asks a question, we document it, and if it happens more than once mm-hmm Then we put it on the website and then now AI can look at that and say and ask question.

01:10:56.463 --> 01:10:56.663
Oh, I know.

01:10:56.663 --> 01:10:57.503
Question the answer to that question.

01:10:57.679 --> 01:10:58.038
Yeah.

01:10:58.099 --> 01:10:59.029
Oh, so crazy.

01:10:59.029 --> 01:11:00.979
It probably learns in its off time.

01:11:00.979 --> 01:11:05.179
It doesn't have to like go learn in the moment'cause it's already fed itself.

01:11:05.418 --> 01:11:06.979
Like Alma has already kind of fed.

01:11:07.309 --> 01:11:11.059
Chat, GPT, like all the local think tank stuff.

01:11:11.328 --> 01:11:11.599
Yeah.

01:11:11.658 --> 01:11:13.429
Like, you know, as much as you can about us.

01:11:13.488 --> 01:11:16.429
Like be thoughtful of that when you create stuff for us.

01:11:16.488 --> 01:11:16.908
Yeah.

01:11:17.088 --> 01:11:17.628
Same for you.

01:11:17.628 --> 01:11:18.139
Probably.

01:11:18.139 --> 01:11:21.259
Or maybe you're not using it as intentionally or differently.

01:11:21.498 --> 01:11:25.399
Um, I'm not using as much, but my marketing communications coordinator.

01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:27.649
Yeah, that's, I mean, he, he, his name's Steve.

01:11:27.649 --> 01:11:30.708
He's a, he's a, he's a whiz at all this stuff, man.

01:11:30.708 --> 01:11:33.529
It's like, it's, it's funny'cause now I'm becoming my parents.

01:11:33.529 --> 01:11:36.259
It's like, like technology, you kids?

01:11:36.259 --> 01:11:36.498
Yeah.

01:11:36.498 --> 01:11:38.328
Like, like can you make it, do that thing?

01:11:38.328 --> 01:11:38.509
Yeah.

01:11:38.509 --> 01:11:38.809
Yeah.

01:11:39.048 --> 01:11:44.838
Like talent, technology wise, I'm like, I feel like I'm falling behind, but like, he's so good at it, you know?

01:11:44.838 --> 01:11:52.759
But, uh, but it's interesting, like the AI stuff, like even, even when the car wash industry, like there's a, a system, there's a camera system.

01:11:52.759 --> 01:12:07.128
So like if you're going down, like through the car wash and somebody hits their brakes and they start to, you know, go backwards or something, there's technology that actually stops our whole entire system because it shows a box around a car, right.

01:12:07.128 --> 01:12:12.859
And if you go outside of that box, it says, oh, this person's out of, right out of the area and it'll stop the whole conveyor.

01:12:12.918 --> 01:12:13.519
That's interesting.

01:12:13.519 --> 01:12:15.288
So it's, it's very interesting.

01:12:15.288 --> 01:12:17.014
All the AI stuff that's coming down the pipeline.

01:12:17.014 --> 01:12:17.359
Oh, I'm sure.

01:12:17.748 --> 01:12:26.208
I just changed yesterday morning or, or actually Sunday night, my furnace quit working and I screwed around, did this and that.

01:12:26.208 --> 01:12:30.498
And then I ended up like taking out the flame sensor and sanding it off.

01:12:31.069 --> 01:12:33.559
And what the flame sensor does is like.

01:12:34.533 --> 01:12:42.213
The flame goes off, but then there isn't a flame, then it stops it from pumping natural gas into your house while the furnace is not running.

01:12:42.844 --> 01:12:43.203
Okay.

01:12:43.564 --> 01:12:44.283
Same kind of thing.

01:12:44.314 --> 01:12:46.203
Like, but that was old school.

01:12:46.564 --> 01:12:52.713
Like, it's this little sensor thing that, um, detects this one thing.

01:12:53.043 --> 01:12:53.283
Right.

01:12:53.283 --> 01:12:56.404
With your systems you can detect so many different things.

01:12:56.823 --> 01:12:57.184
Yeah.

01:12:57.213 --> 01:13:00.844
You know, even when the station is unoccupied or all Yeah.

01:13:00.844 --> 01:13:01.413
So much.

01:13:02.014 --> 01:13:03.543
But it's all about safety ultimately.

01:13:03.694 --> 01:13:04.083
Right.

01:13:04.173 --> 01:13:05.703
For your people and your customers.

01:13:05.703 --> 01:13:05.944
Really.

01:13:05.974 --> 01:13:10.564
There's, I mean, we, our safety program is so extensive.

01:13:10.564 --> 01:13:15.934
It's like we, and now you, and we do it just because we're responsible.

01:13:15.934 --> 01:13:16.354
Sure.

01:13:16.654 --> 01:13:21.094
But you know, at the same time, you know, you have to put all these things in place.

01:13:21.123 --> 01:13:22.594
Well, and those manufacturers of.

01:13:22.878 --> 01:13:26.779
Those equipments and things like that are probably got a very rigid protocol too.

01:13:26.958 --> 01:13:27.319
Yeah.

01:13:27.408 --> 01:13:32.088
Um, I wanna, before we go into some of our closing segments, I wanna go back to Alabama.

01:13:32.509 --> 01:13:32.958
Okay.

01:13:33.078 --> 01:13:38.149
Uh, when you were wa through different, the locust for River Different Lakes, the Locust Fort River.

01:13:38.179 --> 01:13:38.509
Yeah.

01:13:38.569 --> 01:13:41.328
So, so CME and Alabama, so Alabama's.

01:13:41.673 --> 01:13:47.344
So there's Mississippi by Louisiana, Alabama's adjacent to Georgia and above a little part of Florida.

01:13:48.243 --> 01:13:48.604
All right.

01:13:48.604 --> 01:13:50.043
And where are you in that state?

01:13:50.944 --> 01:13:53.043
Uh, the north part North.

01:13:53.073 --> 01:13:53.373
Okay.

01:13:53.373 --> 01:13:55.144
So that's just south of Tennessee?

01:13:55.503 --> 01:13:55.774
Yeah.

01:13:55.833 --> 01:13:56.163
Yeah.

01:13:56.163 --> 01:13:59.913
I mean, it, it was, it was probably two and a half hours to Chattanooga.

01:13:59.944 --> 01:14:00.363
Okay.

01:14:00.484 --> 01:14:00.904
Okay.

01:14:01.293 --> 01:14:01.413
Mm-hmm.

01:14:01.420 --> 01:14:04.923
Um, and like, what kind of a background were your parents?

01:14:04.923 --> 01:14:06.423
Uh, what were they up to?

01:14:06.423 --> 01:14:08.314
Did you have, you said you had one sibling?

01:14:08.944 --> 01:14:10.654
Yeah, I have, I have one sibling.

01:14:10.684 --> 01:14:10.804
Okay.

01:14:10.804 --> 01:14:12.604
We, we are from a small town.

01:14:12.634 --> 01:14:12.814
Okay.

01:14:12.844 --> 01:14:15.154
Um, you mean, uh, like a thousand?

01:14:15.514 --> 01:14:20.644
Well, what's interesting, so this is,'cause I heard you say you graduated with a class of six.

01:14:21.333 --> 01:14:21.783
Five.

01:14:21.783 --> 01:14:22.203
Five.

01:14:22.444 --> 01:14:24.873
So my graduating class was 66 people.

01:14:24.963 --> 01:14:24.993
Okay.

01:14:24.993 --> 01:14:26.613
And we were the biggest school in our county.

01:14:26.703 --> 01:14:27.184
Oh, wow.

01:14:27.189 --> 01:14:27.378
Okay.

01:14:27.423 --> 01:14:32.524
And it, and I looked at some, some statistics recently about the population.

01:14:33.003 --> 01:14:33.034
Oh, wow.

01:14:33.034 --> 01:14:34.173
And it, so it was all little towns.

01:14:34.203 --> 01:14:34.474
Yeah.

01:14:34.474 --> 01:14:34.743
Yeah.

01:14:34.743 --> 01:14:36.243
And it hadn't, hadn't grown that much.

01:14:36.274 --> 01:14:36.604
Yeah.

01:14:36.814 --> 01:14:40.173
I mean, we were, we were a dry county forever and then Oh wow.

01:14:40.173 --> 01:14:44.253
And then they finally released it, I don't know, I'd have to say probably 10 years ago, maybe.

01:14:44.314 --> 01:14:45.274
It's been a little bit longer than that.

01:14:45.274 --> 01:14:47.283
Oh, so when you were growing up, you grew up in a dry county?

01:14:47.373 --> 01:14:47.613
Yeah.

01:14:47.613 --> 01:14:47.884
Yeah.

01:14:47.884 --> 01:14:49.833
And all the, a lot of the counties around me were dry.

01:14:49.863 --> 01:14:50.314
Okay.

01:14:50.524 --> 01:14:50.884
Yeah.

01:14:50.944 --> 01:14:52.684
So is that, that's pretty normal.

01:14:52.684 --> 01:14:53.554
And did the kids.

01:14:53.958 --> 01:14:54.828
Not drink then?

01:14:55.038 --> 01:14:55.279
No.

01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:59.328
They have to drive to the county next to'em and go by their alcohol.

01:14:59.333 --> 01:15:02.779
They're two counties over if they have to, and then they have to drive back.

01:15:02.958 --> 01:15:04.368
I was like, that's not so safe.

01:15:04.368 --> 01:15:05.298
Consider they're already drunk.

01:15:05.298 --> 01:15:06.618
By the time they get back to our county.

01:15:06.623 --> 01:15:15.649
If you, if you do a BWE double RUN beer run and you gotta go over, you know, to the next county and you know, and everybody's, it's like it wasn't the safest thing.

01:15:15.828 --> 01:15:18.828
And then the counties next to us were the ones that were getting the revenue right.

01:15:18.948 --> 01:15:19.519
You know?

01:15:19.519 --> 01:15:25.158
And so, but uh, yeah, that's kind of one of those fixed it, but actually fucks it up more.

01:15:25.309 --> 01:15:26.149
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:26.149 --> 01:15:26.958
Kind of things, right?

01:15:26.958 --> 01:15:30.048
You don't, all you do is cost your county a bunch of tax revenue.

01:15:30.198 --> 01:15:30.469
Yeah.

01:15:30.469 --> 01:15:30.769
Yeah.

01:15:30.828 --> 01:15:33.048
And make your kids burn more gas.

01:15:33.288 --> 01:15:33.708
Yeah.

01:15:33.979 --> 01:15:36.769
And be more unsafe by driving over and get their booze.

01:15:36.889 --> 01:15:39.588
Although it probably did decrease the prevalence some or not.

01:15:39.588 --> 01:15:39.918
Yeah.

01:15:40.458 --> 01:15:41.118
I'm not, I'm not sure at all.

01:15:41.118 --> 01:15:41.913
Not for your, everything.

01:15:41.913 --> 01:15:42.274
Everything.

01:15:42.274 --> 01:15:47.238
All, all the decisions that made enhancements happened after I left, so not fair enough.

01:15:47.328 --> 01:15:47.658
Yeah.

01:15:47.719 --> 01:15:50.269
So, so you're in this kind of small town environment.

01:15:50.269 --> 01:15:52.158
What, were you a good student?

01:15:52.189 --> 01:15:53.448
Were you an athlete?

01:15:53.509 --> 01:15:54.889
Were you an adventurer?

01:15:54.948 --> 01:15:57.408
Like, oh man, how much do I disclose here?

01:15:57.408 --> 01:15:58.338
So, lets see here.

01:15:58.338 --> 01:15:59.298
So, yeah.

01:16:00.738 --> 01:16:04.609
Um, so I was in, I played basketball my whole entire life.

01:16:04.609 --> 01:16:04.668
Hmm.

01:16:04.788 --> 01:16:09.559
Uh, well, you know, until I graduated when and when I was in college, I just played rec stuff.

01:16:09.559 --> 01:16:12.048
But same ba basketball was a big thing for me.

01:16:12.078 --> 01:16:12.349
Okay.

01:16:12.859 --> 01:16:14.809
Um, music was always a big thing for me.

01:16:14.809 --> 01:16:15.769
I was in the band.

01:16:15.769 --> 01:16:15.770
Okay.

01:16:15.774 --> 01:16:18.408
I was, um, I was in the band.

01:16:18.408 --> 01:16:19.729
I was very passionate about that.

01:16:19.729 --> 01:16:20.833
I played the trombone in the maritime.

01:16:20.953 --> 01:16:22.788
Actually, my next door neighbor has a lot of Alabama.

01:16:23.314 --> 01:16:24.934
Uh, history there too.

01:16:25.144 --> 01:16:25.533
Oh really?

01:16:25.533 --> 01:16:25.594
Yeah.

01:16:25.594 --> 01:16:26.524
They, they're from Alabama.

01:16:26.583 --> 01:16:27.753
Yeah, he's from Alabama too.

01:16:27.814 --> 01:16:28.024
Oh.

01:16:28.024 --> 01:16:29.073
I might be related to him.

01:16:29.073 --> 01:16:29.344
Maybe.

01:16:29.554 --> 01:16:37.474
Um, so there was a band out here that played downtown on, on Mountain there at the, what's Pat Stryker's place?

01:16:37.474 --> 01:16:38.073
The Armory.

01:16:38.373 --> 01:16:38.764
Okay.

01:16:38.764 --> 01:16:41.854
That was from Alabama, uh, last fall.

01:16:42.423 --> 01:16:43.083
Oh man.

01:16:43.384 --> 01:16:44.854
Oh, I know who you're talking about.

01:16:44.854 --> 01:16:46.804
Because all my buddies were sending it to me.

01:16:47.194 --> 01:16:48.934
That was his neighbor that was like his neighbor for a long time.

01:16:48.934 --> 01:16:51.003
And he used, one of his kids used to play for that band.

01:16:51.094 --> 01:16:51.423
Yeah.

01:16:51.423 --> 01:16:53.194
And that, that's interesting.

01:16:53.224 --> 01:16:55.144
'cause all my friends were like, you gotta check them out.

01:16:55.144 --> 01:16:59.043
I'm like, I'm at a cheer competition and I can't do this, you know?

01:16:59.613 --> 01:17:00.573
Anyway, but yeah.

01:17:00.573 --> 01:17:02.134
So that is, I lied to you earlier.

01:17:02.134 --> 01:17:05.884
I don't that, that's my other Alabama connection basically with my next door neighbor.

01:17:06.033 --> 01:17:07.024
Okay, gotcha.

01:17:07.083 --> 01:17:10.684
Yeah, so it's, uh, so I was always passionate about band.

01:17:10.833 --> 01:17:12.904
Um, and, and it is good that I did that.

01:17:12.904 --> 01:17:18.694
'cause I still, you know, I went on to put down the trombone, played bass for 10 years in a blues band around here.

01:17:18.694 --> 01:17:20.493
And uh, so that was, that was cool.

01:17:20.493 --> 01:17:21.154
Which, which blues band.

01:17:21.448 --> 01:17:22.948
It's called the Deja Blues Band.

01:17:23.099 --> 01:17:23.488
Okay.

01:17:23.609 --> 01:17:23.939
Yeah.

01:17:24.029 --> 01:17:24.149
Yeah.

01:17:24.149 --> 01:17:24.838
I've seen you before.

01:17:25.109 --> 01:17:26.878
Oh yeah, I have, I have.

01:17:26.969 --> 01:17:27.779
Okay, gotcha.

01:17:27.783 --> 01:17:37.708
We, we will have some side conversations after this, but I played bass in that band for a while, but that was cool because I took that experience and I was able to tra you know, still do those types of things these days.

01:17:38.038 --> 01:17:39.569
I wasn't much of a football person.

01:17:39.719 --> 01:17:43.918
Uh, football in the South, as you know, it's, it's practically a religion.

01:17:44.128 --> 01:17:44.429
Yeah.

01:17:44.609 --> 01:17:49.198
Uh, you know, it's, it was funny'cause people, if you move me and you aren't really built for football so much.

01:17:49.613 --> 01:17:50.654
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:17:51.298 --> 01:17:52.109
Uh, yeah.

01:17:52.109 --> 01:17:52.979
We're kind of scrawny.

01:17:52.979 --> 01:17:53.654
Right, right.

01:17:53.684 --> 01:17:54.238
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:17:54.238 --> 01:17:55.349
We get hurt too easy.

01:17:55.349 --> 01:17:55.649
Yeah.

01:17:55.649 --> 01:17:56.548
We got a tape worm.

01:17:56.548 --> 01:17:57.059
Yeah, I get it.

01:17:57.059 --> 01:17:58.078
Well, we don't run fast enough.

01:17:58.078 --> 01:17:58.229
Yeah.

01:17:58.529 --> 01:17:58.798
Yeah.

01:17:59.399 --> 01:18:01.769
For the skinny guys, we run too slow for the big guys.

01:18:01.769 --> 01:18:02.609
We're just not big enough.

01:18:02.729 --> 01:18:05.038
But, uh, yeah, I mean, so that was a big thing.

01:18:05.038 --> 01:18:13.798
It was, I always joke about it'cause it's kind of funny, everybody Saturday was watching Alabama football, uh, Alabama or Auburn.

01:18:13.798 --> 01:18:13.859
Yeah.

01:18:13.918 --> 01:18:22.408
If you ever moved to Alabama from a different state, you have to choose a side because people are gonna start asking you, are you an Alabama Auburn fan?

01:18:23.009 --> 01:18:29.578
But I mean, everybody would be sitting in there watching a national championship and I'd be in there like, like fixing up my skateboard or something.

01:18:29.578 --> 01:18:33.359
I never was interested in it, but when I went to college, it was a big deal.

01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:34.288
So I, uh.

01:18:35.139 --> 01:18:37.059
My logo here, my original logo.

01:18:37.179 --> 01:18:37.569
Yeah.

01:18:37.689 --> 01:18:44.229
Uh, this cost me$175 from a Clemson tiger, uh, attendee.

01:18:44.229 --> 01:18:48.698
At the time, my co-founder's daughter was attending Clemson and drew me that up.

01:18:48.998 --> 01:18:49.628
Oh, cool.

01:18:50.229 --> 01:18:51.248
Which I thought was pretty good.

01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:51.998
Yeah, yeah.

01:18:51.998 --> 01:18:52.000
Yeah.

01:18:52.005 --> 01:18:52.719
She did a great job.

01:18:52.868 --> 01:18:55.118
Well, it's, it lasted us like eight years or something.

01:18:55.208 --> 01:18:59.078
Well, what's cool is you can do a lot with, uh, you know, with the, with the logos too.

01:18:59.109 --> 01:19:01.628
You can just do a lot with just straight up text.

01:19:01.689 --> 01:19:01.899
Yeah.

01:19:02.408 --> 01:19:02.948
You know?

01:19:03.009 --> 01:19:04.059
Um, yeah.

01:19:04.179 --> 01:19:05.229
Uh, what's the guy's name?

01:19:05.229 --> 01:19:06.969
Stanley Kubeck or what?

01:19:07.179 --> 01:19:07.838
AK Riak.

01:19:07.868 --> 01:19:08.350
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:08.769 --> 01:19:11.859
Um, my buddy Chris, I've been telling you about the brand manager guy.

01:19:11.859 --> 01:19:15.578
He did a whole series of posters and it was just in text.

01:19:15.583 --> 01:19:15.984
Oh, oh, fun.

01:19:15.988 --> 01:19:19.658
And they loved it and it just used a specific text and that kinda stuff.

01:19:20.288 --> 01:19:21.939
Um, pretty interesting guy.

01:19:21.939 --> 01:19:26.498
So, anyway, that's my, you know, I don't like Clemson is where my logo came from.

01:19:26.498 --> 01:19:26.649
Yeah.

01:19:26.649 --> 01:19:27.248
It's close.

01:19:27.338 --> 01:19:30.939
South Carolina, that's almost, it's right above Georgia, right?

01:19:30.998 --> 01:19:31.418
Yeah.

01:19:31.418 --> 01:19:32.529
It's a couple states over.

01:19:32.588 --> 01:19:33.578
Yeah.

01:19:33.578 --> 01:19:33.579
Yeah.

01:19:33.579 --> 01:19:33.581
Yeah.

01:19:33.819 --> 01:19:36.788
So tell me about Alabama, like your community, what was it driven by?

01:19:36.788 --> 01:19:37.509
Was it like.

01:19:38.298 --> 01:19:40.368
Little farms and stuff around there.

01:19:40.368 --> 01:19:41.599
Were they raising crops?

01:19:41.599 --> 01:19:42.979
Was it, yeah.

01:19:42.979 --> 01:19:46.309
Tell me about like the, maybe if you know the atmosphere Yeah.

01:19:46.309 --> 01:19:47.509
The atmosphere, the scene.

01:19:47.658 --> 01:19:48.198
Yeah.

01:19:48.198 --> 01:19:53.658
Um, in my experience, it would, where I'm from was always pretty boring.

01:19:53.929 --> 01:19:54.259
Okay.

01:19:54.288 --> 01:19:57.859
Right now, I mean, I, the same as where I'm from, I, I love where I'm from.

01:19:57.889 --> 01:20:04.759
Like, it's funny now, now, now at the age I am with how busy everything is around here.

01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:08.899
I love going back home and sitting on a front porch, right.

01:20:08.899 --> 01:20:13.279
And playing guitar and band and banjo and all that kind of stuff.

01:20:13.609 --> 01:20:14.748
I absolutely love it.

01:20:14.748 --> 01:20:26.029
But like, growing up, I would, believe it or not, I was a pretty social guy, so I needed to, I wanted to be out in the city scene and all that kind of stuff and be, you know, talking to people, which is what, what was that for you?

01:20:26.029 --> 01:20:27.229
What was the closest city?

01:20:27.229 --> 01:20:29.988
Bi Birmingham, which was our north.

01:20:30.288 --> 01:20:30.649
Okay.

01:20:30.828 --> 01:20:31.099
Yeah.

01:20:31.519 --> 01:20:32.569
And then Tuscaloosa.

01:20:32.569 --> 01:20:33.649
And that was a pretty big city, right?

01:20:33.918 --> 01:20:34.488
Yeah.

01:20:34.759 --> 01:20:35.748
Half million or more.

01:20:35.809 --> 01:20:36.168
Yeah.

01:20:36.408 --> 01:20:42.378
I haven't looked at the, the, but a big city population in a while, but I would say it's probably about the size of Colorado Springs.

01:20:42.469 --> 01:20:42.798
Okay.

01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:43.698
Yeah.

01:20:43.998 --> 01:20:48.139
Um, Tuscaloosa's, Tuscaloosa smaller, but that was closer.

01:20:48.229 --> 01:20:48.498
Yeah.

01:20:48.498 --> 01:20:55.009
And I actually think CSU now, don't quote me on this, but I think CSU is bigger than Tuscaloosa.

01:20:55.248 --> 01:20:55.849
Oh, really?

01:20:55.998 --> 01:20:56.359
Yeah.

01:20:56.363 --> 01:20:56.484
Yeah.

01:20:56.599 --> 01:20:58.698
Well, that's, I mean, I mean, that's where I grew up too.

01:20:58.729 --> 01:21:00.948
Like Jamestown was 20,000 people.

01:21:01.639 --> 01:21:05.599
40 years ago and 20 years ago and now and 60 years ago.

01:21:05.899 --> 01:21:06.168
Yeah.

01:21:06.168 --> 01:21:06.679
Yeah.

01:21:06.769 --> 01:21:08.029
It is about the same though.

01:21:08.029 --> 01:21:08.599
About the same.

01:21:08.599 --> 01:21:09.168
Yeah.

01:21:09.168 --> 01:21:09.170
Yeah.

01:21:09.618 --> 01:21:17.149
But I, um, so, um, it, there a lot of people have a lot of land around there and that kinda stuff.

01:21:17.149 --> 01:21:19.639
It's not like out here, like, it is hard to get land.

01:21:19.819 --> 01:21:20.179
Sure.

01:21:20.208 --> 01:21:28.819
So, um, I, I enjoyed where I, I enjoyed where I lived more when I got to discover more of the things that I, I appreciated.

01:21:28.819 --> 01:21:43.609
So I was into rock climbing, I was into kayaking, and when I've figured out how to do those things, I appreciated where I was from more often because a lot of the, a lot of rock climbing spots in Alabama are in, in my hometown as well as the, is water, rivers.

01:21:43.639 --> 01:21:44.088
Okay.

01:21:44.208 --> 01:21:44.628
Okay.

01:21:44.748 --> 01:21:44.988
Yeah.

01:21:45.024 --> 01:21:49.609
So that was part of what plugged you into kind of the outdoor sports scene in some ways, I suppose.

01:21:49.613 --> 01:21:50.298
Yeah, yeah.

01:21:50.298 --> 01:21:50.628
Yeah.

01:21:50.628 --> 01:21:55.698
And so I, uh, the older I got the more appreciated because I got to branch out more.

01:21:55.759 --> 01:21:55.939
Yeah.

01:21:55.969 --> 01:22:06.168
But, uh, but where I went to high school was 25 minutes away from, um, where I lived at, and so Oh wow.

01:22:06.229 --> 01:22:06.498
Yeah.

01:22:06.498 --> 01:22:13.939
And so, like, until I got my driver's license, you know, I was the last person in my class to get the driver's license.

01:22:14.809 --> 01:22:17.238
I kind of was just stuck at home all the time.

01:22:17.328 --> 01:22:17.719
Oh really?

01:22:17.719 --> 01:22:18.229
You know what I mean?

01:22:18.229 --> 01:22:22.458
And so that, that was always kind of boring for me, but it was, it was a good thing.

01:22:22.458 --> 01:22:26.179
Did, did you come from a, like a faith oriented background or something?

01:22:26.179 --> 01:22:26.838
Um, yes.

01:22:26.838 --> 01:22:27.078
Right.

01:22:27.078 --> 01:22:28.038
Like, I assume that's kind of.

01:22:28.474 --> 01:22:30.064
Bible built headquarters almost.

01:22:30.123 --> 01:22:30.814
It is, yeah.

01:22:30.814 --> 01:22:31.083
Yeah.

01:22:31.083 --> 01:22:31.323
Okay.

01:22:31.384 --> 01:22:31.863
Yeah.

01:22:31.953 --> 01:22:33.423
Um, it is.

01:22:33.634 --> 01:22:36.003
And um, but yeah, it's What were your folks doing?

01:22:36.694 --> 01:22:41.823
My, uh, my folks, so my mom, um, she was a bookkeeper Okay.

01:22:42.094 --> 01:22:44.224
For, for HVAC company.

01:22:44.253 --> 01:22:44.583
Okay.

01:22:45.094 --> 01:22:46.564
Um, my dad worked for the phone company.

01:22:47.043 --> 01:22:47.404
Okay.

01:22:47.583 --> 01:22:47.944
Yeah.

01:22:48.543 --> 01:22:51.123
Like fixing the telephone wires or whatever.

01:22:51.184 --> 01:22:51.694
Yeah.

01:22:51.694 --> 01:22:53.373
Climbing, climbing poles.

01:22:53.404 --> 01:22:53.764
Yeah.

01:22:53.764 --> 01:22:53.765
Yeah.

01:22:53.765 --> 01:22:54.238
And that kind of stuff.

01:22:54.309 --> 01:22:54.599
Yeah.

01:22:55.024 --> 01:22:58.054
There's a lot of times where my dad would just wake up in the middle of the night and go to work.

01:22:58.054 --> 01:22:58.444
Right.

01:22:58.804 --> 01:23:00.634
To put me and my sister through college.

01:23:00.663 --> 01:23:01.054
Yeah.

01:23:01.054 --> 01:23:01.055
Yeah.

01:23:01.083 --> 01:23:01.533
Thanks.

01:23:01.654 --> 01:23:02.253
Thanks dad.

01:23:02.373 --> 01:23:02.793
Yeah.

01:23:02.793 --> 01:23:02.795
Yeah.

01:23:03.064 --> 01:23:03.394
Yeah.

01:23:03.514 --> 01:23:14.493
So it was very much a middle class family environment, like they were probably doing better than a lot of your compatriots around you or, yeah, we were doing pretty good.

01:23:14.554 --> 01:23:14.854
Yeah.

01:23:14.884 --> 01:23:15.783
We were doing pretty good.

01:23:15.783 --> 01:23:18.154
You, you were almost upper middle class in that region.

01:23:18.158 --> 01:23:18.279
Yeah.

01:23:18.283 --> 01:23:18.333
Yeah.

01:23:18.333 --> 01:23:21.123
I mean, there was definitely, both mom and dad had a pretty decent job.

01:23:21.423 --> 01:23:21.783
Yeah.

01:23:21.783 --> 01:23:21.784
Yeah.

01:23:22.413 --> 01:23:22.833
Comparably.

01:23:23.043 --> 01:23:23.224
Yeah.

01:23:23.224 --> 01:23:25.953
We weren't balling, but we weren't, we were in trouble.

01:23:26.194 --> 01:23:26.703
Right, right.

01:23:26.703 --> 01:23:27.003
You know?

01:23:27.033 --> 01:23:27.304
Yeah.

01:23:27.484 --> 01:23:31.083
So, I'm sorry to just get a kind of a gauge of that environment, like Yeah.

01:23:31.083 --> 01:23:37.713
I mean, for me it was, uh, I, I absolutely love my, where I'm, uh, I'm, I'm from, right.

01:23:37.713 --> 01:23:37.804
Yeah.

01:23:37.804 --> 01:23:40.804
And, um, but when I was, when I was younger, I got bored a lot.

01:23:40.804 --> 01:23:45.639
And so that's, that's why the guitar thing into play first came to Colorado and this and that.

01:23:45.668 --> 01:23:45.958
Yeah.

01:23:46.109 --> 01:23:46.399
Yeah.

01:23:46.503 --> 01:23:46.713
Yeah.

01:23:46.713 --> 01:23:49.323
And so, and that's, and did you go to college out there?

01:23:49.413 --> 01:23:49.863
I did.

01:23:49.984 --> 01:23:50.283
Okay.

01:23:50.283 --> 01:23:50.434
Yeah.

01:23:50.434 --> 01:23:52.234
I went to the University of Alabama.

01:23:53.569 --> 01:23:54.319
Which is Birmingham?

01:23:54.559 --> 01:23:55.488
No, that's Tuscaloosa.

01:23:55.488 --> 01:23:55.969
Tuscaloosa.

01:23:55.969 --> 01:23:56.269
Okay.

01:23:56.328 --> 01:23:56.418
Yeah.

01:23:56.418 --> 01:23:57.319
Oh, so that was right there too.

01:23:57.319 --> 01:23:58.158
That's Roll Tide.

01:23:58.908 --> 01:23:59.628
Okay, gotcha.

01:23:59.658 --> 01:24:00.199
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:24:00.234 --> 01:24:01.759
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:24:01.819 --> 01:24:06.769
Um, but I did, I did go to school, uh, at the University of Alabama at Birmingham for a little bit.

01:24:06.889 --> 01:24:07.248
Okay.

01:24:07.279 --> 01:24:09.948
But, but ultimately I ended up in Tuscaloosa.

01:24:10.189 --> 01:24:12.889
And then what, like, talk to me about that season.

01:24:12.918 --> 01:24:15.078
Did you said you had finished college.

01:24:15.078 --> 01:24:17.149
Did you finish it before you moved to Colorado?

01:24:17.418 --> 01:24:17.809
I did.

01:24:17.809 --> 01:24:19.609
I graduated and then I took off.

01:24:19.668 --> 01:24:27.979
And then you took off and like, you didn't think about trying to get like a real job for five years and then it took a couple more years to actually do it.

01:24:28.399 --> 01:24:31.399
Well, I wanted to play around before I got a real job.

01:24:31.429 --> 01:24:31.639
Yeah.

01:24:31.639 --> 01:24:34.969
And, and because I graduated, there was always this thing in the back of my head.

01:24:34.969 --> 01:24:36.738
I was like, I gotta get, I gotta get a career.

01:24:36.738 --> 01:24:37.759
I gotta get a career.

01:24:37.788 --> 01:24:40.488
And so that's why I only did the RAF guide thing for two years.

01:24:40.668 --> 01:24:40.878
Oh, okay.

01:24:40.878 --> 01:24:46.533
Looking back at it, I, I think everything fell into place just perfectly for me, but looking back Oh, for only two years?

01:24:46.998 --> 01:24:47.208
Yeah.

01:24:47.208 --> 01:24:47.838
Only two years.

01:24:47.899 --> 01:24:49.189
Oh, I thought you did it longer.

01:24:49.309 --> 01:24:49.578
I'm sorry.

01:24:49.578 --> 01:24:53.059
No, I did it for two years, but I've always been a private guide.

01:24:53.118 --> 01:24:55.533
Like I'll go guide all my buddies and do all that stuff.

01:24:55.533 --> 01:24:55.814
Oh, gotcha.

01:24:56.134 --> 01:24:57.229
I did it for two years.

01:24:57.288 --> 01:25:05.149
And, um, the reason I only did it for two years is because I, I did, my parents put me through college and that it was time for me to say, Hey, thank you for this.

01:25:05.179 --> 01:25:05.958
Here's my career.

01:25:05.958 --> 01:25:07.969
Let me, let me get off your finances.

01:25:08.298 --> 01:25:09.921
I see your dependency for I see, I see.

01:25:09.926 --> 01:25:10.698
You know, a certain level.

01:25:10.729 --> 01:25:15.588
And that was kind of your, your outlet to being independent from Yeah.

01:25:15.798 --> 01:25:16.759
That obligation.

01:25:16.819 --> 01:25:17.059
Yep.

01:25:17.059 --> 01:25:17.298
Yep.

01:25:17.599 --> 01:25:20.029
Do you, uh, do you take private raft.

01:25:20.524 --> 01:25:23.434
Tours now I'll bring all my buddies down.

01:25:23.554 --> 01:25:23.944
Yeah.

01:25:24.213 --> 01:25:24.423
Yeah.

01:25:24.423 --> 01:25:27.484
Do you have a, when do you, when, when does the Pooter become raft bull?

01:25:28.354 --> 01:25:30.573
Um, well, lemme see.

01:25:30.573 --> 01:25:31.054
Ish.

01:25:31.083 --> 01:25:31.474
Yeah.

01:25:31.474 --> 01:25:33.604
I mean, not until June really, right?

01:25:33.993 --> 01:25:34.354
Yeah.

01:25:34.354 --> 01:25:35.734
Well, may Really?

01:25:35.793 --> 01:25:36.184
Yeah.

01:25:36.243 --> 01:25:36.543
May.

01:25:36.543 --> 01:25:41.163
And, and I've seen, I've seen the, I've been up on it in April before.

01:25:41.194 --> 01:25:41.644
Okay.

01:25:41.734 --> 01:25:42.003
Yeah.

01:25:42.003 --> 01:25:44.524
Like the end of April, but may, it starts to kick up.

01:25:44.524 --> 01:25:44.554
Okay.

01:25:44.613 --> 01:25:54.423
It kind of always depends, like, there's been years where it's been like mid-May before I even, it starts running, but like last couple years, it seems like it starts running in April.

01:25:54.573 --> 01:25:54.753
Hmm.

01:25:54.753 --> 01:25:54.783
Okay.

01:25:55.144 --> 01:25:58.503
I mean, it's low water, but it is super cold and you get stuck on rocks.

01:25:58.503 --> 01:25:59.493
Well, yeah.

01:25:59.913 --> 01:26:05.283
I've got an exchange student right now that came to, he's from Finland where there are no rivers.

01:26:05.283 --> 01:26:06.243
It's just flat.

01:26:06.844 --> 01:26:07.384
Really?

01:26:07.654 --> 01:26:08.884
Pretty much, yeah.

01:26:08.884 --> 01:26:08.885
Yeah.

01:26:08.974 --> 01:26:09.573
Uh, it's right.

01:26:09.573 --> 01:26:14.854
We're adjacent to Russia and stuff, but he is leaving like May 10th or something like that.

01:26:14.854 --> 01:26:16.413
And so we were bummed out the other day.

01:26:16.413 --> 01:26:23.524
We were like, well, you kind of came in August after the rivers are too little and you're leaving before they get big enough.

01:26:23.524 --> 01:26:23.913
So.

01:26:24.708 --> 01:26:27.918
Sorry, you'll have to go rafting in Spain or something.

01:26:27.918 --> 01:26:29.118
Like, we can't help you.

01:26:29.298 --> 01:26:31.024
I've got, I've got some suggestions for you.

01:26:31.024 --> 01:26:31.304
Okay.

01:26:31.309 --> 01:26:33.319
After this of where he, y'all you can bring him?

01:26:33.378 --> 01:26:33.498
Yeah.

01:26:33.498 --> 01:26:34.759
Alright, let's, let's talk about it.

01:26:34.783 --> 01:26:34.984
Yeah.

01:26:35.208 --> 01:26:35.389
Yeah.

01:26:35.418 --> 01:26:41.599
Uh, we've got at least one or two weekends still left to try to figure something out or we, he's very willing to skip school.

01:26:42.253 --> 01:26:42.543
Okay.

01:26:43.248 --> 01:26:43.578
Yeah.

01:26:43.578 --> 01:26:44.088
So.

01:26:44.179 --> 01:26:44.479
All right.

01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:46.158
I would be too, if I got, you got to go.

01:26:46.158 --> 01:26:46.640
Right, right.

01:26:46.729 --> 01:26:52.578
Plus he doesn't get any credit for, like, his school here doesn't count toward his school in Finland, so.

01:26:52.729 --> 01:26:53.088
Sure.

01:26:53.238 --> 01:26:53.658
Whatever.

01:26:53.809 --> 01:26:54.139
Yeah.

01:26:54.139 --> 01:26:55.939
As long as you get C's we're fine.

01:26:55.939 --> 01:26:57.588
Like, as you tried a little bit.

01:26:57.889 --> 01:26:58.219
Yeah.

01:26:59.389 --> 01:27:01.639
I have a, uh, a bucket here.

01:27:02.088 --> 01:27:02.569
Alright.

01:27:02.658 --> 01:27:03.944
Oh, I don't know what this is.

01:27:03.944 --> 01:27:05.658
The, uh, I think I know what that is.

01:27:05.658 --> 01:27:06.828
Random or outlandish.

01:27:06.979 --> 01:27:13.279
Oh, by the way, we didn't ask, but do you, do you want to give a gift away from Breeze through car wash as the prize here?

01:27:13.698 --> 01:27:16.429
Uh, I can, I can, yes.

01:27:16.429 --> 01:27:17.599
I can supply you with a gift.

01:27:17.599 --> 01:27:20.838
We can do something, something, whatever,$25 gift card I got you.

01:27:20.988 --> 01:27:23.448
Three months membership or something like that.

01:27:23.509 --> 01:27:23.988
Yeah.

01:27:24.048 --> 01:27:26.389
I mean, do I need to commit to it now or tell you afterwards?

01:27:26.389 --> 01:27:35.088
Well, the, the, the, the winner is claimed by responding to affirm that the, listen to your answer of one of these questions.

01:27:35.764 --> 01:27:36.184
Okay.

01:27:36.243 --> 01:27:37.234
That's how we do it.

01:27:37.354 --> 01:27:41.554
Okay, I will do, I will do a three month wash pass.

01:27:41.613 --> 01:27:42.003
Okay.

01:27:42.304 --> 01:27:42.663
All right.

01:27:42.663 --> 01:27:44.134
Three month wash pass.

01:27:44.373 --> 01:27:48.753
And then we'll decide as these questions unfold, like which question is the right one?

01:27:49.054 --> 01:27:49.323
Okay.

01:27:49.354 --> 01:27:51.844
But basically we're trying to get people to like listen all the way through.

01:27:51.873 --> 01:27:54.573
'cause it gets kind of tiring after an hour and a half.

01:27:54.604 --> 01:27:54.694
Sure.

01:27:54.694 --> 01:27:56.404
And Amy was sitting here, she's like, Hmm.

01:27:56.974 --> 01:27:59.854
Um, so not really, but, but it's a podcast.

01:27:59.854 --> 01:28:00.753
It's a long form podcast.

01:28:00.753 --> 01:28:01.413
So, okay.

01:28:01.413 --> 01:28:03.243
Grab three numbers out of there.

01:28:04.953 --> 01:28:09.453
Each of those three numbers is attached to a question on this list.

01:28:10.054 --> 01:28:15.753
And then after your answers I'll declare which one is the winning answer.

01:28:16.564 --> 01:28:17.734
So I know, yeah.

01:28:18.033 --> 01:28:23.043
Anyway, we didn't talk about this before, but we did talk about it in the email that I sent you, but you didn't read it.

01:28:23.043 --> 01:28:23.463
That's okay.

01:28:23.524 --> 01:28:23.854
No.

01:28:25.894 --> 01:28:26.884
Which numbers do you have?

01:28:27.573 --> 01:28:30.123
Um, I think this is, that's a six, right?

01:28:30.604 --> 01:28:31.234
Looks nine.

01:28:31.234 --> 01:28:31.833
A six.

01:28:31.984 --> 01:28:33.604
Oh, no, it's'cause the line underneath it.

01:28:33.604 --> 01:28:34.894
So that means the six.

01:28:36.363 --> 01:28:36.573
Ooh.

01:28:36.573 --> 01:28:37.234
I like this one.

01:28:37.833 --> 01:28:39.783
I've only asked this question once before.

01:28:40.264 --> 01:28:40.413
Uhoh.

01:28:41.613 --> 01:28:47.373
If you could only eat one color of food for the rest of your life, what color would you choose?

01:28:56.168 --> 01:28:59.014
I would, I would probably say green because it's the healthiest.

01:28:59.463 --> 01:28:59.703
Yeah.

01:29:00.573 --> 01:29:00.934
Alright.

01:29:01.113 --> 01:29:04.774
But I, I, did you eat a lot like avocados, lettuce, right?

01:29:04.863 --> 01:29:05.283
Yeah.

01:29:05.373 --> 01:29:05.673
Yeah.

01:29:05.673 --> 01:29:09.753
And, and I'm now at the age where I really have to think about what I eat.

01:29:09.759 --> 01:29:10.623
Right, right.

01:29:10.623 --> 01:29:13.654
It is never happened before, but now I'm like, oh, if I eat that, it's weird.

01:29:13.654 --> 01:29:15.844
I'd like to have chocolate pudding, but Yeah.

01:29:15.934 --> 01:29:16.144
Yeah.

01:29:16.144 --> 01:29:20.073
So, so, so I would have to say green'cause it's the healthiest option.

01:29:20.224 --> 01:29:20.404
Yeah.

01:29:20.823 --> 01:29:21.094
Yeah.

01:29:21.099 --> 01:29:22.774
I think that's reasonable.

01:29:22.833 --> 01:29:23.194
Yeah.

01:29:23.224 --> 01:29:23.463
Cool.

01:29:23.463 --> 01:29:23.793
All right.

01:29:23.974 --> 01:29:24.274
Alright.

01:29:24.274 --> 01:29:25.623
What's your, what's your second number?

01:29:26.913 --> 01:29:27.514
Seven.

01:29:28.833 --> 01:29:29.583
Seven.

01:29:31.113 --> 01:29:33.844
How do you define happiness?

01:29:35.029 --> 01:29:37.774
I, how do I define happiness?

01:29:41.104 --> 01:29:41.764
Oh, man.

01:29:42.003 --> 01:29:45.033
Um, so dedicated, uh, what was it?

01:29:45.663 --> 01:29:48.783
Dedicated intentional dads.

01:29:48.873 --> 01:29:50.644
Oh, devoted involved loving fathers.

01:29:50.793 --> 01:29:51.213
Yes.

01:29:51.274 --> 01:29:51.573
Okay.

01:29:51.573 --> 01:29:51.873
Yeah.

01:29:52.354 --> 01:29:55.444
Uh, that seems like part of the beast.

01:29:55.594 --> 01:29:58.743
So, so what makes me happy?

01:29:59.043 --> 01:30:10.594
What makes me like the happiest is when I can assist other people with reaching memorable moments.

01:30:11.283 --> 01:30:11.463
Hmm.

01:30:11.823 --> 01:30:22.953
So that's my motto in life, is like, I want to be able to provide my services to other people so it rises them up.

01:30:22.953 --> 01:30:23.014
Yeah.

01:30:24.184 --> 01:30:37.863
And, um, so I, I mean, an example is one thing that I do, and it's the most purposeful thing that I do every year, is I, is I help prepare the speaker for our employee appreciation dinner.

01:30:37.863 --> 01:30:39.243
Do their speech.

01:30:39.573 --> 01:30:39.844
Yeah.

01:30:40.684 --> 01:30:41.734
And wow.

01:30:41.764 --> 01:30:50.524
It's a, it's a long process and you're taking somebody that's never done public speaking and you're asking them to stand in front of a room of 400 people to speak.

01:30:51.423 --> 01:31:00.123
And when they deliver that speech and they get to the end and I see them like, like really elevate their theirselves.

01:31:00.304 --> 01:31:00.604
Yeah.

01:31:00.634 --> 01:31:02.229
Because public speaking, you changed their whole life.

01:31:02.253 --> 01:31:03.514
I mean, you do public speaking.

01:31:03.514 --> 01:31:23.194
I do it, you know, I mean, it's one of the, the hardest things to do when I see, when it gets to that moment, when it gets to the, you know, when they get done and everybody goes to them with standing ovation, that is the happiest moment that I achieve in it throughout the whole entire year.

01:31:25.144 --> 01:31:25.623
That's cool.

01:31:25.774 --> 01:31:26.073
Yep.

01:31:26.344 --> 01:31:31.684
I like that, that, that lifting up of somebody and, yeah.

01:31:32.134 --> 01:31:32.493
Right.

01:31:32.583 --> 01:31:33.753
Can't, can't argue.

01:31:33.783 --> 01:31:34.024
Right.

01:31:34.024 --> 01:31:34.533
Can't add.

01:31:34.713 --> 01:31:35.793
You feel that right?

01:31:35.884 --> 01:31:36.873
Because you've shown it too.

01:31:36.963 --> 01:31:37.654
Oh, for sure.

01:31:37.713 --> 01:31:37.953
Yeah.

01:31:37.953 --> 01:31:38.314
Whatever.

01:31:38.314 --> 01:31:38.913
I see.

01:31:39.333 --> 01:31:46.083
You know, whether it's staff or a member or whatever, just somebody get beyond where they thought they were gonna be.

01:31:46.684 --> 01:31:47.104
Yeah.

01:31:47.194 --> 01:31:52.804
You know, whether it's a year or three years or whatever timeframe or six weeks ago.

01:31:53.134 --> 01:31:53.493
Yeah.

01:31:53.613 --> 01:31:53.884
So.

01:31:53.884 --> 01:31:54.213
Awesome.

01:31:54.423 --> 01:31:55.234
That's the zen moment.

01:31:55.654 --> 01:31:56.613
That is the zen moment.

01:31:56.673 --> 01:31:56.974
Yep.

01:31:57.033 --> 01:31:57.844
What's your last number?

01:31:58.923 --> 01:32:01.923
Um, it's a one.

01:32:03.783 --> 01:32:03.904
Hmm.

01:32:04.323 --> 01:32:04.894
Uh oh.

01:32:05.583 --> 01:32:07.953
Your favorite childhood memory?

01:32:10.293 --> 01:32:11.344
My favorite childhood?

01:32:11.344 --> 01:32:14.554
Or earliest or notable?

01:32:14.764 --> 01:32:15.514
Memorable.

01:32:16.234 --> 01:32:18.844
Well, I don't know.

01:32:19.144 --> 01:32:20.913
So I'm gonna go with earliest.

01:32:21.064 --> 01:32:21.274
Okay.

01:32:21.604 --> 01:32:25.054
Because, and it's not, it's not my favorite.

01:32:25.054 --> 01:32:26.913
And it definitely was not my mom's favorite.

01:32:27.184 --> 01:32:27.543
Okay.

01:32:27.934 --> 01:32:30.243
But it was like the first thing I ever remembered.

01:32:30.274 --> 01:32:30.873
Yeah.

01:32:30.873 --> 01:32:30.875
Yeah.

01:32:31.474 --> 01:32:37.234
Um, we had a, if my mom listens to this, she'll, she'll recognize this.

01:32:37.234 --> 01:32:37.713
I love you, mama.

01:32:37.923 --> 01:32:38.134
Yeah.

01:32:38.134 --> 01:32:38.703
I love mom.

01:32:39.064 --> 01:32:41.703
Uh, love all my parents.

01:32:41.854 --> 01:32:42.514
All my family.

01:32:43.024 --> 01:32:54.064
Um, there was a, uh, we had a little doghouse, a little handmade doghouse that kind of set off to the corner of our property.

01:32:55.413 --> 01:33:03.243
And, um, one time I just went down and I hid in it for hours.

01:33:03.849 --> 01:33:04.139
Okay.

01:33:04.998 --> 01:33:11.554
And my mom did not know where I was and she panicked and freaked out.

01:33:11.703 --> 01:33:13.083
And we had.

01:33:14.673 --> 01:33:18.814
We had, we had like, all the neighbors were over by the time it was over.

01:33:18.844 --> 01:33:19.833
Right, right.

01:33:19.833 --> 01:33:21.064
Like everybody was there.

01:33:21.064 --> 01:33:23.194
And I'm just hanging out in there just being quiet.

01:33:23.194 --> 01:33:25.804
I think I fell asleep right at one point.

01:33:26.493 --> 01:33:29.224
I woke up because, I mean, I was there for hours, you know?

01:33:29.253 --> 01:33:42.484
And I remember like, uh, you know, walking out of it and like there was all these people, my mom come running up and like crying and just freaking out'cause she thought I'd went missing.

01:33:42.573 --> 01:33:43.024
Yeah.

01:33:43.384 --> 01:33:47.434
Um, but that was literally the first memory I ever had in my life.

01:33:47.434 --> 01:33:48.484
And it's interesting.

01:33:48.484 --> 01:33:48.663
It is.

01:33:48.663 --> 01:33:50.194
Like, why was that my first memory?

01:33:50.253 --> 01:33:54.003
Maybe because it was, it was shocking to people for sure.

01:33:54.064 --> 01:34:04.833
You know, and, and the only, and my mom and I were talking about it last time I was at home and she, she would remember, uh, she was just talking about how like, like she just freaked out about it.

01:34:05.314 --> 01:34:11.029
But that definitely wasn't my favorite memory as a kid, but it was my earliest memory as a kid.

01:34:11.029 --> 01:34:11.229
Yeah.

01:34:11.229 --> 01:34:13.384
And I think I was around like four or five.

01:34:13.564 --> 01:34:13.743
Hmm.

01:34:14.194 --> 01:34:14.524
Yeah.

01:34:14.524 --> 01:34:14.854
That's cool.

01:34:15.274 --> 01:34:15.993
I's need to remember that.

01:34:16.054 --> 01:34:16.474
Yeah.

01:34:16.474 --> 01:34:22.444
And, um, maybe I just remembered it'cause it was, you know, it was just like, like, well, traumatic.

01:34:22.503 --> 01:34:23.644
It was traumatic, right?

01:34:23.644 --> 01:34:23.795
Yeah, yeah.

01:34:23.823 --> 01:34:27.873
But your mom was all freaked out, but also you were just Yeah.

01:34:27.904 --> 01:34:29.644
You impacted all these people's day.

01:34:29.764 --> 01:34:30.514
Yeah.

01:34:30.573 --> 01:34:30.904
Yeah.

01:34:30.904 --> 01:34:33.184
And I was like, I am never gonna do that again.

01:34:33.904 --> 01:34:40.774
But as far as like, favorite memories, you know, I, I think of a, a lot of times when I was at our, our lake, right?

01:34:40.779 --> 01:34:40.828
Mm-hmm.

01:34:40.913 --> 01:34:41.913
That's, that's, you know.

01:34:42.873 --> 01:34:53.373
Going to the lake and being at this property that we've owned, our homes, our life, um, the memories that we built there, and just the solitude of being there Yeah.

01:34:53.434 --> 01:34:54.873
Is very impactful.

01:34:54.873 --> 01:35:01.024
Is that something that like you want your kids to own someday or be part owners of or whatever with their a hundred percent, that kind of thing?

01:35:01.354 --> 01:35:02.253
Yeah, a hundred percent.

01:35:02.253 --> 01:35:09.423
It, it, it, it's just so far away, but, you know, we need to put plans in place to make sure we we're there a lot.

01:35:09.453 --> 01:35:15.543
But let's talk about your wife because you've, you've kind of talked about her a little bit without really naming her.

01:35:15.844 --> 01:35:16.234
Oh.

01:35:16.283 --> 01:35:20.783
And so I'm gonna take from those questions, I'm gonna say your definition of happiness.

01:35:21.173 --> 01:35:23.033
Made the most fun win.

01:35:23.453 --> 01:35:35.514
So the first person to contact us on either the Instagram or the LinkedIn accounts and share a synopsis of Wade's description of how you define happiness.

01:35:35.543 --> 01:35:37.344
We'll win a three month wash pass.

01:35:37.613 --> 01:35:38.033
There you go.

01:35:38.123 --> 01:35:39.203
So email it in.

01:35:39.713 --> 01:35:41.993
Um, so we started talking about your wife.

01:35:42.503 --> 01:35:42.833
Okay.

01:35:43.073 --> 01:35:50.213
And I think we should talk more about her because she's obviously been probably the most impactful thing in a lot of ways in your life.

01:35:50.243 --> 01:35:58.734
I feel like, uh, you know, from our conversation I feel like we heard a lot of, uh, like appreciation of her influence in your life.

01:35:59.274 --> 01:35:59.694
Yeah.

01:35:59.694 --> 01:36:06.698
Um, I mean, I'm a, I'm a, I'm pretty, you know, an outgoing person and I Yeah.

01:36:06.698 --> 01:36:12.984
You know, kind of overly sometimes I've been, I've been, I've been, uh, accused of, yeah.

01:36:12.984 --> 01:36:13.944
Accused of being a.

01:36:14.514 --> 01:36:15.984
Overly extroverted.

01:36:15.984 --> 01:36:18.743
And she's, you know, she's kind of the opposite.

01:36:18.743 --> 01:36:23.213
So she, she, she keeps me really kind of balanced in that sort of thing.

01:36:23.993 --> 01:36:25.404
Um, what's her name?

01:36:25.644 --> 01:36:26.184
Gretchen.

01:36:26.423 --> 01:36:26.904
Hi, Gretchen.

01:36:26.908 --> 01:36:27.128
Yeah.

01:36:27.128 --> 01:36:27.488
Hi Gretchen.

01:36:27.493 --> 01:36:28.344
You'll probably listen to this.

01:36:28.373 --> 01:36:28.734
Yeah.

01:36:28.734 --> 01:36:29.963
You'll probably take a listen to it.

01:36:31.073 --> 01:36:36.173
I, you know, I, there was a defining moment where I knew that she was absolutely the one.

01:36:36.953 --> 01:36:43.823
Um, so when I first moved to Fort Collins, I moved up here and I, we just kinda met, we've been dating for two summers.

01:36:43.884 --> 01:36:44.243
Okay.

01:36:44.349 --> 01:36:46.854
And, and is this the same girl that you went down the river for?

01:36:47.033 --> 01:36:47.484
Yes.

01:36:47.514 --> 01:36:47.634
Okay.

01:36:47.634 --> 01:36:48.024
Same girl.

01:36:48.024 --> 01:36:48.384
She making sure.

01:36:48.384 --> 01:36:49.163
Yeah, absolutely.

01:36:49.314 --> 01:36:49.703
Yeah.

01:36:49.764 --> 01:36:50.094
Yeah.

01:36:50.394 --> 01:36:52.554
Well, when I met her I was like, this is the one, right.

01:36:52.793 --> 01:36:52.884
Yeah.

01:36:52.884 --> 01:37:00.113
But I, I had met her at the end of the summer, went back home to Alabama for a couple months, and then I came back for a second summer.

01:37:00.113 --> 01:37:06.863
She was wanting to come up here and because she had just moved here from Canyon, been there basically her whole life Yeah.

01:37:06.863 --> 01:37:07.823
And was ready to get out.

01:37:08.753 --> 01:37:12.623
And, uh, so I actually convinced her to come back a final season.

01:37:12.623 --> 01:37:15.774
She didn't really want to because she just moved up here and she came back.

01:37:15.774 --> 01:37:20.724
We hung out for a couple, couple months and then she came back up here and I moved out here.

01:37:20.724 --> 01:37:28.944
But shortly after I moved here, I, um, I developed an infection on my spine.

01:37:29.394 --> 01:37:29.663
Yeah.

01:37:29.934 --> 01:37:30.444
Um.

01:37:30.788 --> 01:37:32.798
And it was a, an abscess.

01:37:32.859 --> 01:37:36.639
And in this abscess, so this is before you guys were like a thing all the way.

01:37:36.668 --> 01:37:38.048
We were, we were dating.

01:37:38.054 --> 01:37:38.243
Yeah.

01:37:38.248 --> 01:37:38.439
Yeah.

01:37:38.439 --> 01:37:43.208
You know, but we weren't, you know, we weren't married, we weren't engaged.

01:37:43.208 --> 01:37:45.338
I was still kind of boyfriend status.

01:37:45.338 --> 01:37:46.043
She had no obligation to you.

01:37:46.253 --> 01:37:46.604
Right.

01:37:46.604 --> 01:37:46.804
Right.

01:37:47.139 --> 01:37:50.168
She could have, could easily said, I'm going this direction.

01:37:50.168 --> 01:37:53.828
And, you know, and I, you know, it wasn't like solidified.

01:37:53.828 --> 01:37:54.099
Sure.

01:37:54.099 --> 01:37:56.259
You know, but she loved you.

01:37:56.344 --> 01:37:56.764
You loved her.

01:37:56.764 --> 01:37:57.128
Yeah, she did.

01:37:57.128 --> 01:38:00.548
And I, she clearly, she, she, she loved me and I loved her.

01:38:00.548 --> 01:38:04.118
And um, but like shortly after that, I developed this infection on my spine.

01:38:04.118 --> 01:38:05.948
I weighed the bones in my neck.

01:38:06.158 --> 01:38:10.298
Um, and this infection actually almost severed my spinal cord.

01:38:10.418 --> 01:38:10.748
Yeah.

01:38:10.988 --> 01:38:12.729
Um, from the neck down.

01:38:12.908 --> 01:38:16.088
I could have easily been, was this from a previous injury or something?

01:38:16.088 --> 01:38:22.569
Or how My friend's dog knocked me down the steps, uh, and it broke my toe and I don't, I have a high tolerance for pain.

01:38:22.573 --> 01:38:27.189
I, I, I don't know where bacteria got in there, but bacteria traveled up my blood screen.

01:38:27.189 --> 01:38:27.923
So how on your plan?

01:38:27.923 --> 01:38:31.988
A column and ate ended up in my neck and it was eating away the bones of my neck.

01:38:31.993 --> 01:38:32.003
Wow.

01:38:32.104 --> 01:38:34.088
And then this happened like basically overnight.

01:38:35.019 --> 01:38:40.538
And so, um, I went through this major medical scare, at least the symptoms for it.

01:38:40.599 --> 01:38:41.019
Yeah.

01:38:41.019 --> 01:38:41.529
Happened, right.

01:38:41.529 --> 01:38:45.458
It probably took a while to develop, but all of a sudden you're like, I mean, I can't do anything.

01:38:45.519 --> 01:38:54.158
I just woke up one morning and it hurt, you know, and it was shortly after that injury happened and, um, and so.

01:38:54.474 --> 01:39:01.884
She's dating this, this guy that she met from Alabama who was hanging out, living with her at the time.

01:39:01.884 --> 01:39:09.594
And, um, and now I'm going through this major medical scare where I may possibly never walk again.

01:39:09.684 --> 01:39:09.923
Yeah.

01:39:09.923 --> 01:39:14.963
You know, if they wouldn't have caught it when they did, it could have severed my spinal cord and I'd have been paralyzed from the neck down.

01:39:14.963 --> 01:39:15.024
Wow.

01:39:15.804 --> 01:39:25.884
And it was a very scary moment for her, especially because she was ready to, you know, start a family, meet someone and move, you know, that direction.

01:39:25.884 --> 01:39:28.554
And now she's having to deal with somebody that Right.

01:39:28.673 --> 01:39:32.724
Might have to be dealing with, you know, a possible disability rest of their life.

01:39:32.724 --> 01:39:36.298
I can have no kids and a dude with a wheelchair to take care of for the rest of my life.

01:39:36.304 --> 01:39:36.354
Right.

01:39:36.354 --> 01:39:36.774
Right.

01:39:36.774 --> 01:39:45.564
And I, and you know, and if, if the worst case scenario would've happened, and if the worst case scenario would've happened, I would've said, move on.

01:39:45.743 --> 01:39:51.323
I'll, I'll, you know, I'll, I have parents that can take care of me, but you go enjoy your life.

01:39:51.743 --> 01:39:55.884
Um, but she stuck with me through the whole entire thing.

01:39:55.884 --> 01:39:58.703
I mean, we, we, we talk about it that these days.

01:39:58.703 --> 01:40:01.404
She's like, yeah, I was waking up in the middle of the night having to be a sponge bath.

01:40:01.404 --> 01:40:03.413
Was this like after your second summer together kind of thing?

01:40:03.623 --> 01:40:04.524
Almost, yeah.

01:40:04.524 --> 01:40:04.524
Yeah.

01:40:04.703 --> 01:40:05.064
Okay.

01:40:05.123 --> 01:40:05.394
Yeah.

01:40:05.394 --> 01:40:09.533
And so all these, and I had, I had somebody at work one time.

01:40:09.533 --> 01:40:22.404
She goes, you know, if she gave me some advice, she said, you know, if you're going the right person in your life, that's going to, you need to be with is somebody if you go through a major obstacle together.

01:40:22.823 --> 01:40:23.963
Well, we went through that.

01:40:24.729 --> 01:40:26.109
I was the one that was hurt.

01:40:26.229 --> 01:40:30.788
She wasn't, she stuck with me and, uh, we got through it.

01:40:30.849 --> 01:40:31.868
I'm here today.

01:40:31.868 --> 01:40:33.128
I'm here to able to talk about this.

01:40:33.128 --> 01:40:41.588
We've got a good career, but it could have easily went a different direction, and I'm very appreciative for her, her kindness.

01:40:41.948 --> 01:40:42.309
Yeah.

01:40:42.578 --> 01:40:46.328
Um, honestly, just her heart, she's, well, there's a lot of selflessness right there.

01:40:46.328 --> 01:40:46.658
Right.

01:40:46.658 --> 01:40:49.234
A wonderful per person in that area.

01:40:49.359 --> 01:40:53.618
A lot of young people today and always have always been selfish.

01:40:54.309 --> 01:40:54.399
Right.

01:40:54.399 --> 01:40:56.109
And so that's a really interesting indicator.

01:40:56.198 --> 01:40:56.559
Yeah.

01:40:56.559 --> 01:41:01.764
And so, I mean, we, we, we jived great before that.

01:41:01.764 --> 01:41:03.488
We jive even better now.

01:41:03.519 --> 01:41:06.788
Um, you know, every, all relationships have their ups and downs.

01:41:06.819 --> 01:41:06.878
Yeah.

01:41:06.878 --> 01:41:09.759
We've had a few where it's been down, but not a, not a whole lot.

01:41:09.908 --> 01:41:10.059
Yeah.

01:41:10.658 --> 01:41:14.618
Um, and I, and she's very patient, uh, with me.

01:41:14.618 --> 01:41:18.698
She's very, she, you know, she's just a wonderful person altogether.

01:41:18.698 --> 01:41:24.069
And I, I think, God, that, you know, that, that, that she's in my life.

01:41:24.099 --> 01:41:24.338
Yeah.

01:41:24.458 --> 01:41:26.679
And so, um, very meaningful.

01:41:27.128 --> 01:41:28.208
Well, thanks Christian.

01:41:28.448 --> 01:41:28.658
Yeah.

01:41:28.658 --> 01:41:29.229
For taking by.

01:41:29.498 --> 01:41:29.859
Yeah.

01:41:30.069 --> 01:41:30.488
Oh yeah.

01:41:30.488 --> 01:41:31.208
A hundred percent.

01:41:31.538 --> 01:41:31.689
Yeah.

01:41:31.719 --> 01:41:34.899
Um, you've got a couple of kiddos.

01:41:35.559 --> 01:41:35.708
Yeah.

01:41:35.708 --> 01:41:36.429
We've got two.

01:41:36.458 --> 01:41:37.179
We play a game.

01:41:37.179 --> 01:41:38.889
Uh, uh, one word description.

01:41:38.889 --> 01:41:39.939
Would you like to try that game?

01:41:40.448 --> 01:41:41.649
One word description?

01:41:41.679 --> 01:41:41.979
Yeah.

01:41:41.979 --> 01:41:42.219
All right.

01:41:42.219 --> 01:41:42.819
The kids.

01:41:42.908 --> 01:41:43.029
Yeah.

01:41:43.029 --> 01:41:44.769
This was in the, this was in the email too.

01:41:44.979 --> 01:41:45.309
Yeah.

01:41:45.309 --> 01:41:45.310
Yeah.

01:41:46.059 --> 01:41:46.569
I read that.

01:41:48.038 --> 01:41:48.639
It's hard.

01:41:48.759 --> 01:41:48.819
Yeah.

01:41:48.819 --> 01:41:50.618
Like it's just one word, but you can expand.

01:41:50.979 --> 01:41:51.939
Uh, who's the older.

01:41:52.599 --> 01:41:54.128
Uh, Campbell is okay.

01:41:54.338 --> 01:41:54.639
Yeah.

01:41:54.644 --> 01:41:55.838
He, do you have a word for her?

01:41:56.019 --> 01:41:57.309
Uh, him, yeah.

01:41:57.458 --> 01:41:59.948
Um, Campbell's a hard name, right?

01:42:00.038 --> 01:42:00.488
Yeah.

01:42:00.519 --> 01:42:00.698
Yeah.

01:42:00.698 --> 01:42:02.498
We named him after Wayne Campbell party.

01:42:02.498 --> 01:42:04.238
On, right, on party on Wayne.

01:42:04.298 --> 01:42:04.599
Yeah.

01:42:04.599 --> 01:42:10.958
Actually, it's funny, my, one of my best friends, he's a musician as well, his name is, uh, Robert Klein, but his middle name is Campbell.

01:42:11.529 --> 01:42:11.918
Yeah.

01:42:11.918 --> 01:42:13.418
So that's where we got it from.

01:42:13.538 --> 01:42:16.719
But I always say Wayne Campbell party on Wayne party on Wade.

01:42:17.588 --> 01:42:25.269
Um, I, he is, uh, one word description, hardworking.

01:42:25.658 --> 01:42:26.889
Oh, yeah.

01:42:27.099 --> 01:42:33.368
He's, he's really, um, he's, it, he's really into golf right now.

01:42:33.488 --> 01:42:33.849
Okay.

01:42:34.208 --> 01:42:36.458
And like, like he's decided that's his sport.

01:42:36.458 --> 01:42:37.389
He's gonna be a golf pro.

01:42:37.448 --> 01:42:37.809
Yeah.

01:42:37.809 --> 01:42:40.088
And I am, I am not a golfer.

01:42:40.088 --> 01:42:41.319
I've never been a golfer.

01:42:41.588 --> 01:42:41.889
Yeah.

01:42:41.948 --> 01:42:51.609
You know, um, but he is, he is working real hard every day to figure out how he can get money where he can support himself and his own support.

01:42:51.724 --> 01:42:52.014
Yeah.

01:42:52.019 --> 01:42:52.179
Yeah.

01:42:52.238 --> 01:42:54.939
And I'm like, I'm like, go buddy.

01:42:54.969 --> 01:42:55.328
Right.

01:42:55.359 --> 01:42:56.319
Go, go.

01:42:56.319 --> 01:42:57.128
You do your thing.

01:42:57.134 --> 01:42:57.333
Yeah.

01:42:57.333 --> 01:42:57.573
Yeah.

01:42:57.759 --> 01:42:58.208
Yeah.

01:42:58.208 --> 01:43:00.759
And so that's a pretty thinker as well, sounds like.

01:43:00.788 --> 01:43:03.578
Yeah, I'm, I'm very appreciative of him.

01:43:03.698 --> 01:43:07.344
I'm doing that because I, I saw a little bit of myself in that like Yeah, yeah.

01:43:07.509 --> 01:43:11.469
Started, well, nobody from Alabama went to Colorado to bra guide.

01:43:12.474 --> 01:43:12.894
Yeah.

01:43:12.953 --> 01:43:13.283
Right.

01:43:13.283 --> 01:43:14.573
Like nobody that you grew up with.

01:43:14.663 --> 01:43:15.323
No, no.

01:43:15.323 --> 01:43:16.014
Left hardly.

01:43:16.014 --> 01:43:16.253
No.

01:43:16.253 --> 01:43:16.493
No.

01:43:16.493 --> 01:43:16.884
Yeah, yeah.

01:43:16.884 --> 01:43:17.753
You're exactly right.

01:43:17.753 --> 01:43:23.663
Like a lot of people, you know, they, they go to college, they get crazy, then they move back and that's what they do the rest of their life.

01:43:23.694 --> 01:43:23.873
Yeah.

01:43:23.873 --> 01:43:25.944
I'm like one of the few that, or they move to Birmingham.

01:43:26.274 --> 01:43:26.634
Yeah.

01:43:26.634 --> 01:43:26.635
Yeah.

01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:26.948
Or something.

01:43:27.113 --> 01:43:30.234
But they don't go to Colorado or they don't really go to New York, you know?

01:43:30.234 --> 01:43:30.534
No, no.

01:43:30.564 --> 01:43:32.904
I don't know anybody I from, I mean, right.

01:43:32.904 --> 01:43:33.863
Seattle, whatever.

01:43:33.899 --> 01:43:35.123
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:43:35.123 --> 01:43:36.323
It's same from North Dakota.

01:43:36.323 --> 01:43:42.923
I mean, we're like, even though we're far different, like North Dakota's as cold as shit, and Alabama's as hot as you can get.

01:43:42.984 --> 01:43:43.463
Right.

01:43:43.493 --> 01:43:50.573
But we're the same in terms of like culture of like exploration isn't really part of, part of the do.

01:43:50.904 --> 01:43:50.993
Right.

01:43:51.354 --> 01:43:51.623
Yeah.

01:43:51.623 --> 01:43:54.144
You do your thing and then you come back home kinda.

01:43:54.354 --> 01:43:54.894
Yeah.

01:43:54.923 --> 01:43:56.573
But, uh, so anyway, yeah.

01:43:56.573 --> 01:43:57.054
Oh, no, no.

01:43:57.054 --> 01:43:58.854
I mean, I a hundred percent agree with you.

01:43:58.913 --> 01:43:59.484
I always joke about that.

01:43:59.489 --> 01:44:01.463
Good for Campbell that he is got that explorer's Gene too.

01:44:01.554 --> 01:44:01.854
Yeah.

01:44:01.854 --> 01:44:03.264
He's, he's just hardworking.

01:44:03.264 --> 01:44:05.484
Like, he, he, he's like, I need money for this.

01:44:05.484 --> 01:44:08.243
And he goes and finds, like, he walks around the neighborhood.

01:44:08.274 --> 01:44:15.804
He's, he's shy, but when it comes to that kind of thing, he, he is, um, he, he's very, uh, he's very good at it.

01:44:16.283 --> 01:44:18.863
And, uh, the next can Candace?

01:44:18.894 --> 01:44:19.764
Candace, yeah.

01:44:19.764 --> 01:44:20.873
She's three years younger.

01:44:20.873 --> 01:44:20.993
Okay.

01:44:20.993 --> 01:44:25.104
She's, um, I would say that she is.

01:44:25.599 --> 01:44:26.798
Outgoing like her dad.

01:44:26.859 --> 01:44:27.248
Okay.

01:44:27.309 --> 01:44:28.088
So outgoing.

01:44:28.088 --> 01:44:32.078
You said your, your son was a little more like your mom personally was Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:44:32.078 --> 01:44:35.378
A little more reserved, but Candace not so much.

01:44:35.469 --> 01:44:35.889
Yeah, right.

01:44:35.889 --> 01:44:43.809
Like even at the event that we were at this last weekend, she was standing on the chair and she was waving, you know, Hey, there's a bit over here at the point appreciation dinner.

01:44:43.809 --> 01:44:49.658
I brought her up on stage so she can announce one of the winners, and she's standing on stage talking to microphone in front of 400 people.

01:44:49.684 --> 01:44:49.974
Yeah.

01:44:50.198 --> 01:44:50.408
Yeah.

01:44:50.408 --> 01:44:52.899
So she's, she's got more, I wasn't ready for that at 10.

01:44:53.019 --> 01:44:53.588
Yeah, yeah.

01:44:53.588 --> 01:44:54.639
But she's all about it.

01:44:54.698 --> 01:44:55.179
Right.

01:44:55.179 --> 01:45:03.338
And, um, I mean, I know we said one word, but she's pretty motivated as, as well as, especially with her sports and that kind of stuff.

01:45:03.878 --> 01:45:04.118
Yeah.

01:45:04.118 --> 01:45:07.958
So, I mean, they're both hardworking, which I appreciate.

01:45:07.958 --> 01:45:15.698
It's not something, you know, we keep hearing these things about today's generation where it's like, Hey, get off the couch and go get a cute job.

01:45:16.479 --> 01:45:16.542
You left the video games.

01:45:16.542 --> 01:45:19.479
I don't, I have zero concerns with those two about doing kind of thing.

01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:24.878
So do you have a, a spot of advice maybe for the next generation?

01:45:25.628 --> 01:45:45.219
Uh, I kinda shifted gears on you here, but like, if you're thinking about you when you were, you know, anywhere from 22 to 25 when you were kind of getting your career going, but you were still kind of goofing around like, what's, what's real in today's world and relevant, what's real in today's world?

01:45:45.219 --> 01:45:48.713
Like, like what would I give, um, my kids advice?

01:45:48.713 --> 01:45:48.913
Yeah.

01:45:48.918 --> 01:45:51.279
Somebody in a, well, not just your kids, but somebody in a.

01:45:51.729 --> 01:45:59.679
Maybe a more similar spot to you were when you were starting your real career path, put yourself in uncomfortable situations.

01:45:59.769 --> 01:46:00.009
Yeah.

01:46:00.519 --> 01:46:00.998
Right.

01:46:00.998 --> 01:46:12.338
I, I think about the most growth, the biggest growth moments that I've ever had in my life is I forced myself to do something that was uncomfortable to me.

01:46:12.519 --> 01:46:12.729
Yeah.

01:46:12.734 --> 01:46:12.743
Yeah.

01:46:12.939 --> 01:46:26.859
I think about the example we used earlier about, you know, the rafting where I was terrified to swim rapids, but I ended up committing and agreeing to throwing myself out of the boat on purpose to swim through rapids for three months straight to get past that.

01:46:26.918 --> 01:46:27.009
Yep.

01:46:27.009 --> 01:46:27.099
Yep.

01:46:28.029 --> 01:46:33.488
Um, you, we talked a little bit about the, um, the employee appreciation dinner and the speaker.

01:46:33.668 --> 01:46:34.059
Sure.

01:46:34.238 --> 01:46:34.658
Right.

01:46:35.288 --> 01:46:38.469
Um, I had a bucket list item to get a standing ovation.

01:46:38.859 --> 01:46:44.738
And so what we used to do is we used to bring in a speaker from the outside to come in and speak to the employees.

01:46:44.889 --> 01:46:44.979
Sure.

01:46:45.548 --> 01:46:58.389
And one year I was sitting there thinking, I was like, well, this person just spoke, but the only person that's gathering any value out of this is the CEO of our company because this is, this was the, the president of the manufacturer.

01:46:58.389 --> 01:46:58.748
Right.

01:46:59.498 --> 01:47:02.859
And so I, I committed, I said, Hey, I'm doing the speech next year.

01:47:03.189 --> 01:47:10.809
I have a story to tell and I work toward it and we're leading up to it and.

01:47:11.439 --> 01:47:12.338
I almost bailed out.

01:47:12.548 --> 01:47:16.269
And thank goodness Justin Salisbury called me and said, dude, don't do this.

01:47:16.269 --> 01:47:17.469
You commit this.

01:47:17.469 --> 01:47:17.470
Commit, commit.

01:47:17.859 --> 01:47:19.838
Thank goodness he, he taught me off that cliff.

01:47:20.378 --> 01:47:23.439
And I went in and I, and I was so nervous.

01:47:23.618 --> 01:47:26.078
I was, I was so intimidated about doing this.

01:47:26.078 --> 01:47:29.350
It's an uncomfortable situation, but I ended up being very vulnerable too.

01:47:29.354 --> 01:47:29.594
Right?

01:47:29.663 --> 01:47:29.953
Yeah.

01:47:30.189 --> 01:47:37.269
And I gave, and I gave a 20 minute speech and everybody stood up and he, the CEO of the company, John, came over and goes, man, you nailed it.

01:47:37.988 --> 01:47:39.849
And I was like, thank you, John.

01:47:39.878 --> 01:47:44.498
I mean, John doesn't give us a lot of advice like you did good a whole lot.

01:47:44.498 --> 01:47:48.128
But hearing that from, yeah, I was like, that's amazing.

01:47:48.849 --> 01:47:53.259
Those were two extremely uncomfortable situations that I had to throw myself into.

01:47:53.259 --> 01:47:54.488
But they were the biggest.

01:47:54.833 --> 01:47:55.764
Growth moments.

01:47:55.793 --> 01:47:56.123
Yeah.

01:47:56.128 --> 01:47:56.378
Yeah.

01:47:56.384 --> 01:48:01.283
So, and uh, when I hear people say, no, I don't wanna do it, I'm scared.

01:48:01.283 --> 01:48:02.059
I'm like, mm-hmm.

01:48:02.144 --> 01:48:02.394
Okay.

01:48:02.453 --> 01:48:05.304
Well prepare and then just move forward.

01:48:05.543 --> 01:48:08.634
You may, you may, you know, it's like going through a rapid, right?

01:48:08.663 --> 01:48:12.684
You may be scared about going through the rapid, but let's coach you up.

01:48:12.774 --> 01:48:13.644
Here's the line.

01:48:13.644 --> 01:48:13.738
Yeah, yeah.

01:48:13.764 --> 01:48:19.134
You go this line, if you end up flipping upside down your kayak and end up swimming, guess what?

01:48:19.163 --> 01:48:20.963
I'm gonna be at the bottom and I'm gonna save you.

01:48:20.963 --> 01:48:25.314
We're gonna pull, pull you out, but we're gonna keep telling you to do it until you get through it.

01:48:25.314 --> 01:48:27.354
And then when you get through it, it's like muscle memory, right?

01:48:27.503 --> 01:48:28.554
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:48:28.554 --> 01:48:37.524
So that's, so I would say put yourself in uncomfortable situations and work through it, because that is gonna be your biggest growth moments in your life.

01:48:37.823 --> 01:48:38.064
Yep.

01:48:38.123 --> 01:48:47.934
I, you know, reflecting, like, I felt totally underqualified to be on a nonprofit board the first time I was, and that was a huge season of growth.

01:48:48.564 --> 01:49:00.173
And also, ironically, yesterday my blog came out and the, the picture was a person standing in their comfort zone, a circle, and then over here is where growth occurs.

01:49:01.463 --> 01:49:01.793
Yeah.

01:49:01.854 --> 01:49:03.984
And it's basically exactly what you just said.

01:49:03.984 --> 01:49:06.413
Like, I've been resonating on that same thought, right?

01:49:06.418 --> 01:49:06.458
Yeah.

01:49:06.698 --> 01:49:07.859
I mean, yeah.

01:49:08.099 --> 01:49:10.434
I mean, it's, you wanna grow.

01:49:10.569 --> 01:49:11.604
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:49:11.873 --> 01:49:12.863
Put yourself out there.

01:49:13.104 --> 01:49:13.493
I dig it.

01:49:13.944 --> 01:49:17.654
Um, so this, the, the closing segment is our loco experience.

01:49:17.654 --> 01:49:17.713
Yeah.

01:49:17.713 --> 01:49:19.243
Your craziest experience.

01:50:03.119 --> 01:50:08.880
Like is it that, that infection thing, or is there another experience that you wanted to, to share?

01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:15.210
The craziest experience that I've ever done in my life, I mean, the, the, the infection piece.

01:50:15.210 --> 01:50:15.510
Sure.

01:50:16.260 --> 01:50:18.095
That's, that was pretty crazy thing that happened to me.

01:50:18.095 --> 01:50:21.750
But that was like a slow rolling kind of thing in some ways and whatever.

01:50:22.170 --> 01:50:22.680
Okay.

01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:31.050
So the craziest thing I've ever done in my life is I spent 17 days rowing a raft down the Grand Canyon.

01:50:31.529 --> 01:50:32.069
Oh, fun.

01:50:32.279 --> 01:50:32.670
Yeah.

01:50:33.329 --> 01:50:37.079
And you know, if, if you're in the whitewater world Yeah.

01:50:37.079 --> 01:50:42.060
You know, there's this, there's a saying, it says, are you, which side of lava falls are you on?

01:50:42.600 --> 01:50:49.680
And what that means is, um, lava falls is the biggest rapid in the Grand Canyon.

01:50:49.710 --> 01:50:50.100
Okay.

01:50:51.300 --> 01:51:02.399
And, um, if you're on this, the, the opposite side of it means you've never done the Grand Canyon, but if you're on the north side of it, it means you've done the Grand Canyon.

01:51:03.149 --> 01:51:05.069
Um, this trip.

01:51:05.564 --> 01:51:13.095
We spent 17 days in 2017 with 17 people going down and, and going down the river.

01:51:13.095 --> 01:51:15.734
Were you being paid or you were before I was the guide.

01:51:15.734 --> 01:51:15.765
Okay.

01:51:15.795 --> 01:51:18.375
I was, I was the guide, so I was rowing a raft.

01:51:18.435 --> 01:51:18.734
Okay.

01:51:18.795 --> 01:51:23.055
Now the rapids in the Grand Canyon, they're on a scale of one to 10.

01:51:23.744 --> 01:51:23.954
Oh.

01:51:23.954 --> 01:51:25.215
Instead of the five that we have.

01:51:25.244 --> 01:51:25.994
Right, right.

01:51:25.994 --> 01:51:28.604
And so, but the biggest one is Lava Falls.

01:51:29.265 --> 01:51:40.515
And so going into this trip, it was extremely, um, it was extremely nerve wracking for me because I am dealing with something, an issue in my neck.

01:51:40.545 --> 01:51:40.845
Yeah.

01:51:40.845 --> 01:51:44.835
If something goes wrong, then I could get severely hurt.

01:51:44.835 --> 01:51:49.274
So this is like after you've recovered something from your situation?

01:51:49.545 --> 01:51:49.784
Yeah.

01:51:49.784 --> 01:51:51.164
This is after years after.

01:51:51.194 --> 01:51:51.404
Yeah.

01:51:51.404 --> 01:51:52.305
This is years after.

01:51:52.305 --> 01:51:55.694
So, so I had to prepare for it.

01:51:55.699 --> 01:51:55.979
Mm-hmm.

01:51:56.064 --> 01:51:57.824
And I had to condition myself to do it.

01:51:58.574 --> 01:52:01.154
And the rapids in there were crazy nuts.

01:52:01.154 --> 01:52:01.604
Big.

01:52:01.664 --> 01:52:02.145
Right.

01:52:02.145 --> 01:52:02.954
It was nuts.

01:52:02.954 --> 01:52:11.414
But I, in the back of my head, I was always very intimidated about it because I had an issue that I had to deal with.

01:52:11.420 --> 01:52:11.579
Mm-hmm.

01:52:11.689 --> 01:52:14.385
That if something went wrong, I could easily get hurt.

01:52:15.779 --> 01:52:19.739
And, um, the trip ended up being beautiful.

01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:21.989
None of none of the rafts flipped.

01:52:22.170 --> 01:52:23.850
We had two people that swam the whole time.

01:52:23.850 --> 01:52:25.800
It was two kayakers, but that was it.

01:52:25.979 --> 01:52:26.010
Okay.

01:52:26.039 --> 01:52:28.529
So for the most part, it was a successful trip.

01:52:29.310 --> 01:52:33.960
The beauty about this trip is like a lot of us didn't know each other, but we ended up being a tribe.

01:52:33.960 --> 01:52:37.920
Like as we went down the river, we got tighter and tighter and tighter and tighter and tighter.

01:52:37.920 --> 01:52:44.189
And every single day we woke up and, um, you know, there was a brand new adventure.

01:52:44.189 --> 01:52:46.350
Like even the last day I was like, this is the last day.

01:52:46.350 --> 01:52:47.819
There's nothing cool gonna happen.

01:52:47.819 --> 01:52:54.600
Well, I ended up falling asleep and I woke up in the, in the middle of the night and there was a ring tail cat that was like sleeping next to me.

01:52:54.704 --> 01:52:55.770
And I was like, oh, what is it?

01:52:55.770 --> 01:52:57.239
Oh, alright, we'll hang out.

01:52:57.239 --> 01:52:57.689
That's cool.

01:52:57.720 --> 01:53:01.439
So I ended up, you know, you know, bunking with a ringtail cat the last night.

01:53:02.069 --> 01:53:05.220
But the most, it was a crazy trip.

01:53:05.220 --> 01:53:13.380
But the, the, the most important thing that happened to me on that trip was, I forget what day it was.

01:53:13.380 --> 01:53:17.159
It had to have been day nine or something.

01:53:18.510 --> 01:53:19.319
I had this.

01:53:19.935 --> 01:53:29.835
This feeling in the back of my head up until this point in my life, up until this defining point in my life that this, this neck injury that happened to me was like a, a disability.

01:53:29.954 --> 01:53:30.045
Right.

01:53:30.045 --> 01:53:30.585
So I tread it.

01:53:30.800 --> 01:53:32.564
I I treated it like a disability.

01:53:32.564 --> 01:53:32.960
Yeah, yeah.

01:53:33.555 --> 01:53:33.944
Right.

01:53:34.305 --> 01:53:37.215
I was like, okay, I'm, I can't do this, I can't do this, I can't do this.

01:53:37.244 --> 01:53:38.444
'cause this is a disability.

01:53:38.444 --> 01:53:39.765
And I was always concerned about it.

01:53:40.664 --> 01:53:50.835
So we got to this beach and we were unloading all of our stuff and we got set up camp and, um, my best friend Chad, was on the trip.

01:53:50.835 --> 01:53:52.725
He was the doctor on the trip, right?

01:53:52.814 --> 01:53:52.935
Yeah.

01:53:53.024 --> 01:53:55.364
And, uh,'cause he has a medical background.

01:53:55.784 --> 01:53:59.265
And I said, Hey man, where is this I'm looking for, for this?

01:53:59.414 --> 01:54:00.645
And we needed it for camp.

01:54:00.645 --> 01:54:02.805
And he said, well, it's in my rocket box next to my seat.

01:54:03.104 --> 01:54:14.954
So I walked over and I opened up the rocket box and there was a neck brace at the very top of the, uh, the rocket box.

01:54:14.960 --> 01:54:15.020
Mm-hmm.

01:54:15.375 --> 01:54:16.784
It was a neck brace right at the top.

01:54:18.645 --> 01:54:22.305
And I looked at it and it was like front and center, right?

01:54:22.364 --> 01:54:24.109
It was like, yeah, right there.

01:54:24.109 --> 01:54:25.755
This is the most important thing.

01:54:25.935 --> 01:54:30.975
And in Chad, he's like, you know, he's my best friend Wade.

01:54:31.005 --> 01:54:32.414
You know, I got him.

01:54:32.595 --> 01:54:34.574
This is a priority for me.

01:54:34.574 --> 01:54:35.715
If anything happens.

01:54:36.104 --> 01:54:38.925
I got him and I lost it.

01:54:39.284 --> 01:54:43.364
Like, I, I, I completely lost it.

01:54:43.364 --> 01:54:44.925
I, I ended up crying.

01:54:45.795 --> 01:54:47.385
I swear it had to been.

01:54:47.925 --> 01:54:49.064
An hour straight.

01:54:50.265 --> 01:54:55.904
And, and people were walking by and they were like, is weight okay?

01:54:55.904 --> 01:54:56.774
Is weight okay?

01:54:57.675 --> 01:55:14.145
And because I was just, I was just crying, and it was just years, and it was just years and years and years of buildup of this issue is like, why, you know, I always thought why did this random Yeah.

01:55:14.175 --> 01:55:21.045
Medical thing that could've easily like, you know, killed me or even, you know, severed my spinal cord?

01:55:21.284 --> 01:55:23.505
Why did it just randomly happen to me?

01:55:24.494 --> 01:55:30.194
And for years I had this mindset of it being like a disability and it was gonna pull me backwards.

01:55:30.194 --> 01:55:30.439
You know, this per kind of thing.

01:55:30.750 --> 01:55:32.000
This is pulling me backwards.

01:55:32.069 --> 01:55:33.079
It's pulling me backwards.

01:55:33.109 --> 01:55:34.159
It's pulling me backwards.

01:55:35.805 --> 01:55:43.005
And in that moment, I mean, I, I just let everything out for an hour, right?

01:55:43.484 --> 01:55:43.545
Yeah.

01:55:43.545 --> 01:55:50.715
And then, and then when I got done, I remember standing up thinking, I've got a people that care for me.

01:55:50.774 --> 01:55:52.095
I got other people that care for me.

01:55:52.095 --> 01:55:53.085
They're watching out for me.

01:55:53.085 --> 01:55:54.314
We're all doing this together.

01:55:54.314 --> 01:55:55.215
We're a tribe of people.

01:55:55.215 --> 01:55:56.265
We're going down the river.

01:55:57.314 --> 01:55:58.694
This is a safe environment.

01:55:58.725 --> 01:56:01.034
I have, I have a system.

01:56:01.395 --> 01:56:02.024
You know what I mean?

01:56:02.024 --> 01:56:02.984
We have, yeah.

01:56:02.984 --> 01:56:03.944
We know what we're doing.

01:56:04.005 --> 01:56:04.875
We know what we're doing.

01:56:04.875 --> 01:56:06.284
We've prepared for this.

01:56:07.274 --> 01:56:10.994
Everything's gonna be fine and it's gonna be fine for you for the rest of your life.

01:56:11.204 --> 01:56:11.324
Hmm.

01:56:11.385 --> 01:56:13.064
So quit thinking about.

01:56:13.545 --> 01:56:18.914
This major injury that happened to you as a disability, but think of it as an opportunity.

01:56:19.335 --> 01:56:19.484
Hmm.

01:56:20.534 --> 01:56:22.694
And to move past it.

01:56:23.145 --> 01:56:30.255
And it was that one defining moment that helped me get over all the things.

01:56:30.465 --> 01:56:30.795
Yeah.

01:56:30.795 --> 01:56:33.015
That had been pulling me backwards for so long.

01:56:33.015 --> 01:56:33.284
Yeah.

01:56:33.284 --> 01:56:33.286
Yeah.

01:56:33.369 --> 01:56:36.645
And it completely changed my mindset and my life.

01:56:37.694 --> 01:56:50.175
Did it, I'm just speculating here, but like, even though your wife stuck with you through those earliest seasons of that injury and stuff, it was, it was holding you back somehow anyway.

01:56:50.534 --> 01:56:53.114
And it let you guys get closer and stuff too.

01:56:53.595 --> 01:56:54.164
It is.

01:56:54.375 --> 01:56:54.795
It did.

01:56:54.795 --> 01:56:55.125
Yeah.

01:56:55.125 --> 01:56:57.404
I mean, yeah.

01:56:57.645 --> 01:57:17.055
I mean there's, even though it was such a sucky thing that happened, there's been so much positive things that's happened around me being able to look at what happened and confess the thing and think about it from a different, in a different lens.

01:57:17.114 --> 01:57:17.265
Yeah.

01:57:17.265 --> 01:57:17.265
Yeah.

01:57:17.270 --> 01:57:17.369
Yeah.

01:57:17.369 --> 01:57:19.725
You know, I can think about it being like, why me?

01:57:19.725 --> 01:57:20.175
Why me?

01:57:20.175 --> 01:57:20.654
Why me?

01:57:20.654 --> 01:57:22.095
Why me my whole entire life?

01:57:22.095 --> 01:57:24.284
Because I was always a very active guy, you know?

01:57:24.284 --> 01:57:24.614
Right, right.

01:57:24.614 --> 01:57:29.805
You know, and it, you know, because of the injury, it has prevented me from doing other things.

01:57:30.765 --> 01:57:37.994
But I mean, it happened, but now I have a different mindset and I can talk to other peoples about.

01:57:38.699 --> 01:57:42.600
My experience and you know, the things that I went through Yeah.

01:57:42.720 --> 01:57:46.439
You know, well, and whatever that thing is that's holding them back Right.

01:57:46.439 --> 01:57:48.630
Or makes them feel is unfair or whatever.

01:57:48.659 --> 01:57:48.989
Right.

01:57:48.989 --> 01:57:54.630
Because when I first moved out here, when that happened to me, I knew two people in town, me and Gretchen.

01:57:54.899 --> 01:57:55.260
Yeah.

01:57:55.770 --> 01:58:00.569
I, I, I moved to a new area away from everything I've ever been used to.

01:58:01.770 --> 01:58:05.939
And I, I've been implanted in this new town where I don't know anybody else.

01:58:05.939 --> 01:58:07.529
And then this major thing happens.

01:58:07.529 --> 01:58:12.000
I had no support system and I had to find the support system.

01:58:12.149 --> 01:58:19.529
What drives your community engagement and helping everybody want a place to, to connect Bingo if they need help.

01:58:19.590 --> 01:58:20.039
Right.

01:58:20.039 --> 01:58:30.750
And that's why I think because of that one situation that happened to me, I think that's why I care so much about providing for this community the way that I do.

01:58:30.779 --> 01:58:31.199
Yeah.

01:58:31.199 --> 01:58:31.260
Yeah.

01:58:31.439 --> 01:58:36.539
Well and each of, each of those employees could be just like you in some small way.

01:58:36.810 --> 01:58:37.109
Yeah.

01:58:37.560 --> 01:58:37.739
Yeah.

01:58:37.739 --> 01:58:41.189
Or each of those people, each of those nonprofit organizations.

01:58:41.340 --> 01:58:41.670
Yeah.

01:58:42.060 --> 01:58:42.390
Yeah.

01:58:42.449 --> 01:58:43.229
So that's really cool.

01:58:43.319 --> 01:58:45.930
Thanks for reflecting on that.

01:58:46.079 --> 01:58:46.229
Sure.

01:58:46.229 --> 01:58:47.819
Like that's a really neat thing.

01:58:48.060 --> 01:58:48.390
Yeah.

01:58:48.539 --> 01:58:56.189
Um, like everybody knows how to find breeze through car wash, but uh, just like breeze through car wash.com.

01:58:56.189 --> 01:58:56.279
Right.

01:58:56.279 --> 01:59:00.420
Breeze through car wash.com, follow some social, you'll see what we do for the community.

01:59:00.420 --> 01:59:02.489
Like should we find you on LinkedIn?

01:59:02.864 --> 01:59:06.340
Oh, so that we can find out when the old, the DPH band is no.

01:59:06.465 --> 01:59:08.145
Like, gonna actually have a proper show.

01:59:08.204 --> 01:59:10.994
I, so, so, or how, how do we find out?

01:59:10.994 --> 01:59:16.335
Like how do my listeners find out how to come to your show when you finally Yeah, I, I know, bring it outta the garage.

01:59:16.395 --> 01:59:16.935
Oh, man.

01:59:16.935 --> 01:59:18.914
I, I, I know Kurt will know.

01:59:18.914 --> 01:59:20.984
I don't know when that's gonna come to fruition.

01:59:21.015 --> 01:59:21.494
Right, right.

01:59:21.494 --> 01:59:24.435
It's one of these things, it's like we're just hanging out and we're having a good time.

01:59:24.435 --> 01:59:27.795
We'll play some shows every, again, well watch the Local Experience podcast, uh, yeah.

01:59:27.824 --> 01:59:31.574
Link Instagram station and we'll, we'll share that there for sure.

01:59:31.635 --> 01:59:31.904
Yeah.

01:59:31.904 --> 01:59:37.395
And by the way, I, I, uh, LinkedIn I don't do too much on, but I, I am on Instagram for sure.

01:59:37.395 --> 01:59:38.774
That's like, that's like my jam.

01:59:38.774 --> 01:59:42.345
I have to pick like one because it's part of my job.

01:59:42.345 --> 01:59:43.244
It's like, you know.

01:59:43.305 --> 01:59:44.296
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:59:44.595 --> 01:59:46.274
You got good pictures at Instagram anyway.

01:59:46.454 --> 01:59:47.295
Yeah, yeah, you do.

01:59:47.295 --> 01:59:47.685
Yeah.

01:59:47.715 --> 01:59:51.734
That's, you don't have a lot of people commenting, which is like, I'm like, I appreciate that.

01:59:52.305 --> 01:59:54.645
Do you have any questions of me before we wrap this up?

01:59:55.395 --> 01:59:56.564
Uh, by the way, thanks for being here.

01:59:56.564 --> 01:59:57.765
Thanks for sharing that story.

01:59:57.824 --> 01:59:58.545
You're welcome.

01:59:58.604 --> 01:59:59.085
Yeah.

01:59:59.085 --> 02:00:05.085
Um, um, I don't have any questions for you.

02:00:05.085 --> 02:00:05.354
Sorry.

02:00:05.420 --> 02:00:06.020
I have, that's good.

02:00:06.720 --> 02:00:07.460
You can ask me anything.

02:00:07.604 --> 02:00:10.274
I know, I, we'll edit it out if it doesn't make me appear to be smart.

02:00:10.364 --> 02:00:27.074
And, uh, uh, well, I mean, I've personally, I'm just, I'm just curious about like, the podcasting and, uh, but I, I think I might just ask you questions later on because that's like a full on like Yeah, it's a real thing for sure.

02:00:27.074 --> 02:00:28.154
You gotta love it.

02:00:28.545 --> 02:00:28.994
Yeah.

02:00:29.265 --> 02:00:29.505
But.

02:00:30.000 --> 02:00:30.270
Yeah.

02:00:30.425 --> 02:00:31.439
You, you might enjoy it.

02:00:31.619 --> 02:00:37.260
Well, I mean, I just hear, I hear a lot of people talking about podcasting these days and like how to make it a thing.

02:00:37.260 --> 02:00:42.930
My Steve, our um, marketing communications coordinator's been doing it for 16 years.

02:00:43.020 --> 02:00:43.350
Oh wow.

02:00:43.380 --> 02:00:45.420
And he's, he's very well versed in it.

02:00:45.750 --> 02:00:46.050
Okay.

02:00:46.109 --> 02:00:46.920
Even coming down here.

02:00:46.920 --> 02:00:47.760
Love to meet him with some time.

02:00:47.789 --> 02:00:48.119
Oh yeah.

02:00:48.119 --> 02:00:50.010
You, it would be good for you to meet him.

02:00:50.010 --> 02:00:51.840
He's, yeah, he's on geek cast up net.

02:00:51.840 --> 02:00:53.189
A real proper pro.

02:00:53.189 --> 02:00:55.619
Like I just kinda a winging it kind of guy.

02:00:55.649 --> 02:00:56.970
No, you're doing well right here.

02:00:56.970 --> 02:01:08.010
I but I, you know, I would love to pick your brain sometime about how, you know, how this all works and you know, and even if it's something I never do, I just still like to understand how everything works.

02:01:08.069 --> 02:01:08.340
Yeah.

02:01:08.430 --> 02:01:08.699
You know?

02:01:08.699 --> 02:01:09.000
For sure.

02:01:09.029 --> 02:01:11.324
But we'll, we'll, we'll connect at another time about that.

02:01:11.324 --> 02:01:13.500
You can buy me lunch and, uh Right, right.

02:01:13.505 --> 02:01:14.579
I'll give you the full tour.

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Right.

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I owe you'cause last time you program everything.

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Yeah.

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You, uh, you bought last time.

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I did.

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I did.

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Yeah.

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So, well, thanks for being here.

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Yeah.

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Appreciate it.

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Godspeed.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, Douglas Wade Keith.

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There you go.

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I'll see you next time.

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Yeah.

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Thanks man.

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Appreciate you.