Oct. 1, 2025

BONUS EPSIODE - #2 Hot Nugs Conversation with Adam Eggleston For Mayor of the City of Fort Collins

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Season 5

Adam Eggleston is a candidate for Fort Collins Mayor, and joined me for the second of our Hot Nugs Conversations - a collaboration between LoCo Think Tank, Matador Mexican Grill, Old Town Spice Shop, and The LoCo Experience Podcast.  

Please visit www.adamegglestonformayor.com to learn more about his platform, and make sure to vote by or before November 4, 2025!

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Transcript
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Welcome back to the Loco Experience Podcast.

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My guest today is Adam Eggleston.

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For mayor, as his t-shirt says, I am.

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Thank you for having me.

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That's a, that's a pretty solid T-shirt.

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Did you make more than one?

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Uh, I have, I have four or five different designs I've made and, uh, but all

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solos you don't have like a crew of like volunteers, they'll get a t-shirt for Oh yeah.

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So Minions, I

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have this shirt and one other shirt that if anyone donates$25 or more to my campaign Oh.

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And requests a shirt, I will get a shirt to'em.

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Oh, nice.

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Typically within about two days.

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Okay.

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Uh, can do a whole bunch of different colors and so I, I do have a whole bunch of, uh, volunteers and friends.

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Do you have a

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screen printing business in your garage or something?

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Uh, no.

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I found a, like a single print, like on demand print.

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It's a little bit pricier than like, right.

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What would be, so you're paying

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like$26 for these$25 donations?

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No, I'm paying like 22.

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But they might get other donors may get, get other donors, you know, they start movement that way.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And I always, uh, like the worst part about.

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I, I suck at asking for money and whatnot and yeah.

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I'm just doing it.

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'cause you're like, Hey, buy a cool T-shirt.

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Yeah.

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And'cause I, and I'm really enjoying designing new t-shirts.

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I just designed two more yesterday.

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Sweet.

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So when I have downtime from the campaign, which isn't often, uh, I'm playing on Canva and designing new shirts and stuff of that

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nature.

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You're building new skills.

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Yeah.

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As you run for mayor.

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Trying to and have you, what's the, what's the new designs?

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Can I ask?

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Uh, yeah.

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So I have a kind of a rustic, um, black and white design with four Collins with horse tooth in the background.

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Okay.

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Uh, more classic.

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More classic for Collins, Colorado.

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Uh, and then I have a really nice, this is

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your Comic-Con shirt here.

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This is my

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Comic-Con.

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I wear this shirt when I door knock.

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Sure.

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'cause if they see a fat man walking up to a door wearing their shirt, they're like, you're not a normal canvasser.

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Right.

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And we should probably check to make sure you're okay.

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Right.

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Is this like person being like held without their permission or something like that here?

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Like,

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why is this guy like walking?

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He doesn't seem like he, does he need some food?

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Yeah, food or, I do get, I and I, I'm running exercise if like, people are seeing me out in the, the neighborhood like, hey, if you see me check to make sure I have sunscreen on and I'm doing okay, I'm not used to exercise and my head burns really easily and I've had people stop me.

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They're like, you got sunscreen on?

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I was like, yeah.

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I was like, thanks mask.

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It is for Collins, looking out for Fort Collins.

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And so it's a, it's a really fun way to play on, um, you know, the door knocking and, and being professional and having the suit and tie on.

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Yeah, the right forms and appropriate times.

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Pro, pro times.

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But, you know, tonight I figured eating hot sauces, having fun time talking about, you know, just creative stuff.

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Uh, it's a good place for to rock the, uh, ComicCon uh, the slight, um, overweight superhero.

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Um,

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he's looking good.

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Thank you.

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He's looking good.

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Well, and I hope you're prepared for me to take my shirt off tonight'cause we're doing a selection of much hotter sauces than we did in the Shirley Peel interview because she advised us ahead of time that she was a Antis Spice girl and she did the whole run, including a couple pretty bird ones.

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So.

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And I was sweaty.

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Like that was one of the last things she said to me in the interview was, my God, I can't believe how sweaty you are.

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So I,

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I completely anticipate, I didn't know shirts would be coming off.

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Um, your shirt may come off.

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Mine won't.

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Okay.

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Uh, if I do that, I'm not

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sure if my shirt will come off.

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I would

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lose instantly.

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Um.

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There'd be zero effort on me running for rest of the campaign.

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Uh, and I kind of figured this hot sauces might be a little bit hotter, um, just just with my friendship and my knowledge.

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Yeah.

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So, so

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yeah.

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Credit with due, um, this was a little bit your idea, so, yeah.

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Um, and we've excluded you from all the planning and stuff since the idea was.

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Seated with Sean and Paul, so exactly.

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This was a, I was sitting at crazy Carl's and I was like, Hey, I just got done watching a hot Ones episode, and I was like, this would be fun to do real, get real questions and answers from candidates.

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And I knew, uh, a lot of the, my peer candidates would probably be down for it.

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And I've known Sean forever.

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And so, uh, met him at Carl crazy.

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Carls was like, Hey.

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What about this?

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He's like, I'm in.

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Yeah.

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And then, and then I like messaged Paul.

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I was like, Hey Paul, do you wanna do this?

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He's like, I'm in.

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And then, uh, Sean turned me onto to you and he's like, I was like, Kurt, would you be in on this and you're in?

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And so it turned into just like a random Yeah.

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I was like, I'll have a

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coffee about it.

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I don't know if I'm in or not.

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But, and

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then, uh, and then it was like, oh, this is a thing now.

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Now by the way, we're still

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looking for sponsors to help cover the cost of producing this episode.

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Adam offered to pay us back later, especially if he gets elected Mayor.

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Or if I lose, I think if I lose, if I teasing that sounds ethically policy anyway.

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I don't know.

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We're doing it of our own free will and volition without sponsors and without any expectation of hookups.

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Although it would be nice if parking remained free.

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So,

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you know, I think that's maybe.

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Uh, a conversation we can have, and I do agree with that.

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So let's, uh, before we get too far into a normal loco experience episode, we've got a format today.

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Okay.

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And that format includes dipping a nugget into this first sauce, which is gonna be pretty modest, giving some tasting notes.

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And then once you're done chewing, oh, we need some napkins in here.

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Oh, um, would somebody be so kind as to bring us some napkins.

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Um, and then once we have offered tasting notes, then we shall, uh, ask you the first question.

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I like it.

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And by we, I mean me.

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Okay.

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I'm not trying to use like a plural.

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I mean, I could ask you questions as well.

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I know if that would Well, to some

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extent the community is asking you questions.

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Thanks, Eva.

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Thank you.

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Um, and because a couple of these questions were community sourced and, uh, so it is a we,

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so I, I like it, like, I, like I've uh, said before, there's not a question I won't answer.

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Um, there may be, uh, I may not have the answers to the questions.

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Sure.

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But at least I will tip to answering question,

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at least what you think anyway.

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Yeah, I dig it.

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So let's do the first, let's do the first nug.

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Perfect.

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So this is, oh, and actually as we go, if you, you can reach'em.

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So would you mind telling the audience what this one is?

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This is the Matador barbecue sauce.

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Yeah.

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So Matador, barbecue sauce, um, just kind of,

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they're straight up barbecue.

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Yeah.

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Just kind of you're running the mail.

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Oh.

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And

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Shirley and I decided if you switch it around, you can double dip, but you have to go to the non bitten end.

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No, that makes sense.

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cause neither of us wanted to like, not be able to double dip, but, you know, germs and all that.

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Hmm.

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Nice.

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Sweet.

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Mm-hmm.

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Good flavor.

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Nice on the tang, but not too, too tgy.

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Yeah.

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So just a good traditional, you wanna thin anybody?

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Yeah.

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Just a good traditional B or barbecue sauce.

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This is good.

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And I could rock this a lot.

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It seems to me like it would be especially good, like I'm thinking about like kind of burned on the edges on some chicken thighs on the grill and that kind of thing where it's been maybe drizzled a couple times.

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Mm-hmm.

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Even before you serve it.

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Oh yeah.

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You

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put, you throw this on, uh, a good like Brent Ends or, um, park Belly would be really good.

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So the first question from James Merkley, one of our co-collaborators here as well, story Path Creative, what's your fondest story to share about the people or the community of Fort Collins?

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You

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know, I've had

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a, a really fun and interesting career in life where I've lived here my whole life and there's been several times where I have seen the community come out to support me.

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Um, through different challenges, um, um, uh, medical issues, some car accidents and Oh, really?

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And I've really seen the, um, it's always been the community feel.

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Um, every time I've, I've gone out and one of my favorite parts about Fort Collins is no matter where I've gone, I, I run into people, you know, where I go and everyone's, everyone's very friendly.

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Um, I haven't, I don't know if there's been less, there's probably less than five interactions I've had in my entire life in Fort Collins, which has been pretty much my entire life Yeah.

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Without, are negative.

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Hmm.

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Um, and then I've also, in my, um, current position, um, as a community advocate, um, um, helping out those throughout the community is, I really have seen the interaction that our community members give to each other wherein someone's at their worst or they're struggling with a challenge or the just have gone through a traumatic experience.

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I, I've seen time and time again where our community members come out to support each other with no idea or concern about, um, like, uh, payment back or service back the next almost.

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And I've been in Yeah, think

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about like even like the Save the Lyric campaign.

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Yeah.

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Way back when it, it's, you know, before the new lyric location was established and stuff.

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Right?

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Oh yeah.

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And, and or things like that.

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And like going out to, and being a part of all these nonprofits where no one ever asks about what's your political background?

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No one ever asks about your social economic style, uh, or, or background.

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Our community really seems to come out to help each other when it's needed and when it's warranted.

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And so for me, the cumulation just living here and seeing the absolute positivity that a community has for each other is Absolutely, yeah.

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Um, like just immense and grateful.

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Um, even whenever you see the one outliers that's.

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Tries to start or cause issues.

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Sure, sure.

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The amount of people come out to kind of stop that is quite impressive and just endearing.

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Yeah.

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I I think that's probably one of the, when you and I had that coffee to talk about this the first time was just kind of a both of our notions of like the localization of your attention mm-hmm.

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And of your efforts.

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Yeah.

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It's, you know, the, I've always been hyper-focused on Fort Collins and, but it's easy to be, um, because of how many great individuals and people there are, uh, is easy to be focused on, uh, hyper-local and even with, with community members, I, I work with and, and talk with, and I've served on 1516.

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Meeting, uh, task force committee groups.

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Oh, wow.

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Uh, I'm kind of addicted to meetings.

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I may be that, uh, I've been told that's why I'm running for mayor.

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Oh my.

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'cause I'm addicted to meetings.

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Shoot.

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We know, and I absolutely love, uh, being meetings, but being there and seeing the diverse opinions and positions and everything that goes on.

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But even when we are disagreeing, we do it respectfully.

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Yeah.

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And truth be told, I have, I've had more, um, challenging debates and arguments over where we're gonna get drinks, uh, or like which brewery we're gonna go to than anything important.

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I don't know what that says about me or the community, but, uh, we'll have, uh, intense debates.

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But then the hardest part of the after art we debate and argue a parti, uh, position is are we gonna go to odells?

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Are we gonna go to Max Line?

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Well, or I have a question.

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Yes.

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Why would you go to Max Line over Rod's I like so the owners of Max Line are two amazing friends.

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That's one of the big reasons, and you're not.

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Old

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town.

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Yeah.

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Which is another good reason not old town.

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And so, and uh, I got stung on this question in 2018 when I ran, um, I was asked, uh, the question was we were at Prot and the question was, uh, what's the best beer in town?

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Oh, I gave this very long diatribe answer.

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I was like, based on the season.

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So like, sad pandas delicious.

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Why has the, um, you try to make everybody happy and not just everyone happy?

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I just like beer.

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Uh, I always say that Fort Collins shaped my mind, but also my body, uh, with a beer scene.

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And more the

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beers than the bikes.

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Exactly.

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Uh, I like, I think biking sounds fun in principle, but I also like beer more than biking.

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Um, and so yeah, it's just been fun.

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And so I gave this long diatribe answer and Julie, who I, who was my, uh, peer candidate, she had the best answer I've ever heard.

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She's like, whatever beer is in front of me.

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Yeah, I was like, oh, that's the right answer.

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My

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favorite beer is free beer.

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That was her follow up.

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And after that odells IPA is kind of my next favorite.

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Odell

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IPA is probably the best beer.

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I think we're ready for the honey sauce.

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Ava, are you ready to bring it for us?

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Thank you.

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So honey habanero sauce from Matador.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh, anytime, uh, any things that Paul makes, even as that says, honey, I know there's gonna be heat.

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There's a little heat, but usually things that say habanero are actually more hot than this one.

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That's fair.

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Um, so I think it's a very pleasant You, you, you won't, yeah.

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You won't be, you won't be sweating from this one.

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I think I might be baby.

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We were at, uh, high Hops the other day and they have a honey habanero.

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Beer actually, uh, in a can only habanero honey.

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Uh, H-U-N-N-Y is how they spell it.

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'cause they do a lot of weird stuff there.

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Um, but you would probably like that too, because it's beer.

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It's beer.

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This is really nice.

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It has a nice subtle heat, kind of the back of the throat.

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Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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But the honey help and I think the honey helps coat that.

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So it kind of goes down as you feel the heat going down.

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I agree.

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And so, good flavor, good.

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Easy thing.

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This would be nice on a hot wing.

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This would be a great entry.

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Like hot sauce for like kids.

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Oh

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yeah.

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Where it's, yeah, it's a hot sauce, but you're gonna love it'cause it's so full of honey that you can't help but love it.

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Yeah.

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Your brain's already been trained to love it.

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Your

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brain's been trained to live.

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I actually just saw, um, I saw a thing that a natural cure for, um, like if you have coughs at night, instead of taking like ny quilt, do like a small spoon of honey and that does.

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Has a thing.

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It's like taking eye quilt.

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Hmm.

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Interesting.

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Yeah.

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My grandpa did that.

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Um, but he put whiskey in it that would also help.

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And hot water, he called it a hot toddie.

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Um, but that was a children's cough remedy from my mom's dad.

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I mean, those old remedies, uh, I always say our parents, what it was a, it wasn't a ton of ton of booze.

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Maybe a tablespoon of booze or something.

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Right.

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But that would help keep everyone asleep, especially when, when you're three and you haven't had booze before that, that would help.

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The second question is from Paul.

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Okay.

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Owner of Matador.

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Um, what is your plan to help support small businesses to start and grow in Fort Collins?

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So, uh, I recently closed, I I was a small business owner.

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Okay.

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Um, I owned, uh, Oaked Coffee Co.

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And I recently closed it, uh, on June 30th.

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Um, just due to.

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Commodity commodity prices and tariffs and whatnot.

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Okay.

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Um, so being a small business owner, seeing on how many permitting and hoops you had to go through.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I understand.

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Like even to

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have a micro business virtually Yeah.

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Micro business and how many different regulations I had to go through just for just roasting coffee.

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I didn't ha I didn't have a, um, patrons.

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I was a wholesale coffee company and there was a lot of steps I had to go through and some things I know the city can't control.

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We can't control commodity prices, we can't control, um, outside influences, but we can control the permitting time and, and fee structure in order to make it easier to start businesses so there's less downtime.

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Yeah.

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And then going forward.

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I wanted to see if we can explore some type of way to stabilize rent.

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'cause I know that's one of the hardest things for small businesses.

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Okay.

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Uh, and as, uh, the rent increases in some cases are 25, 30, 40% every two years, where if you're a small business or a local business, you're not being able to budget for a 40% increase in rent every two, two years.

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And so what ends up happening is you're making a fine weight or income, or you're making Right, right.

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You're existing, you're doing okay for a while, but then all of a sudden you're having to raise expense prices by another, you know, 30% to match the 40% increase in, in rent.

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So,

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so why do you think the rent increased that much?

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And, and what would you do to stabilize, quote unquote the rent?

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So, part of, so we need to work with a county assessor.

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Um, I think there's, they, I think over the last, um.

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Five or eight years through the pandemic, we've really seen like, uh, values went up so much.

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Like fake values?

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Yeah.

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Fake news.

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Fake, fake or just a, a uh, inappropriate increase in value proposition Yeah.

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Or property values.

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Yeah.

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To a point

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where like a lot of, they can't

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pay the property taxes almost unless they increase their rent.

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Correct.

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Or they're not even that, where the value of the property isn't even what this being assessed for.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And so if you're, I experienced that I sent the city a appraisal on my residential property for 530,000 after they raised my tax assessor's value to 6 95.

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Wow.

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'cause I was trying to build a carriage house.

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I was like, here's my As is valuation.

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From last month and they were like, sorry, I can't hear you.

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We need your money.

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Yeah.

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Bye.

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And as a former realtor, like I would do, um, protests for all of my clients and anyone who asked, uh, and at some point we're seeing property values residentials go up 30, 40, 50% year over year.

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But we've seen that consistently with commercial.

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Yeah.

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Even though that the market's starting to stabilize and kind of correct a little bit.

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Yeah.

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So we're not seeing those values come down.

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So we're still seeing the property values go up 40% where if your property, or at least the

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cost of occupancy.

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Yeah.

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And so now the business owners that may not have the collateral to buy the$5 million building are having to be subject to those rent increases.

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Um, okay.

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So, so what would like.

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But don't those property owners need to get that level of rent to stay solvent?

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Or like would you have the city subsidize rent or something?

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That seems almost worse.

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So we can't subsidize rent.

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And what we, we can do is work with the county assessor to stabilize rent increases.

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So in like Or valuation increases?

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Yeah, valuation increases.

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That would be something I would

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agree with is that like property values shouldn't be able to go up 10 times.

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Or the rate of inflation.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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'cause inflation was supposed to be three or four or 5%.

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Yeah.

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Or even maybe more than double inflation.

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Like they can't jack that fast,

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so they have to have a better, because that

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creates kind of an inflationary

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Yeah.

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Like turbine almost.

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Where now the rent's higher.

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So I gotta charge more for my food than I'm selling to my customers.

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And now that everybody's paying more.

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And the smaller businesses have a harder time keeping up with that cost increase.

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Like if you're Starbucks because you're getting your coffee at 10 cents a pound,'cause you own the PR land where it's grown, the ships that it's shipped on.

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Yeah.

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The, the trucks you own, everything you can offer, you can find ways to stabilize that price increase.

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Um, if you're a small business owner, you may not be able to handle that rent going from 5,000 a month to 7,000 a month.

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Um, because now you're asking, uh, your customers to pay, well,

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maybe, maybe not.

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I would argue that like Starbucks left old town, partly because the rent was too high compared to the traffic allowed, you know, the parking.

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And so, so like in Old Town as a good example, I would think we should maybe convert Old Town into like an opportunity zone where we work the county assessor just not to increase the assessed value.

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Now the property values can go up.

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So if you're a property owner and you wanna sell it for 10 million, but stabilize it for, so they

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almost get a subsidized.

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Property tax situation because we want old time to continue to exist as a retail environment

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exist and to provide stability.

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So rather than every two, maybe another way to thinking about it, maybe instead of every, the property values increase every two years or be, they are only increased every five years.

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So at least that gives a five year bandwidth.

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Where, but then it would've to

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increase more if Mr.

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Market's got a hand in it.

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If Mr.

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Market does have a hand.

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But right now we're seeing such, I think our property values needs to correct

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it's fake news.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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'cause it's actually the property values aren't as high as they've been assessed.

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So maybe.

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And so people are trying to get the rent that they can use to cover all those things.

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So we stabilize

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it for the next five years.

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At least give some.

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And so I'm

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wary of the hand of government, I just gotta say, but we have to move on'cause we have to do these shows pretty quickly.

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And I completely understand that.

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And I, I guess my question is, I have ideas, but

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I need to, let's explore with people exactly.

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Alright, we can do that.

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Cool.

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Next nug.

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Oh, sorry, Ava, I should have called for the next sauce.

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This is actually a rub.

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Oh,

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so this is, this was

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Buffalo hot wing rub from a old town py shop.

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Yeah.

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This was Shirley's favorite

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Oh.

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Actually from the last episode.

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Very nice.

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So, um, yeah, I, I'm excited to, like, I actually prefer dry rub wings than over, over sauced wings and I could see rubbing some wings down with some olive oil and then rub this stuff in real nice and just hit it in the air fryer.

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Mm.

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For me, um, because I do like the dry rubs a little bit more.

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Yeah.

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What do you think?

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It's actually a really nice flavor.

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They're getting good backend feet heat on the backend of the throat.

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A good initial

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tongue feel as well.

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Tastes very like authentic buffalo to me.

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It's like Frank's.

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Mm-hmm.

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It kind of tastes like Frank's.

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Very, very delicious.

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I've been, actually, Sean has a, uh, coyote Pass, which is a, uh, pretty spicy, uh, rub.

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And I've been doing dry rubs with wings with that.

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Okay.

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I'm, its spicier than that.

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That has a good flavor and it continues to build, so it's still building.

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Um, and I think it's a, because it's a powder, right?

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It's kind of sticking around the, the top.

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Yeah.

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That powder would really like stick on some stuff too.

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Um, so whatever you wanna make kind of Buffalo e it would be good.

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That'd be, I think Grant good in, uh, ground chalk to do burgers.

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Mm.

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To do like a pepper jack.

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Oh yeah.

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With like a, that'd be fun.

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Nice.

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Uh, like buffalo burger or touch touch.

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I like it.

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YouTube.

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Yeah.

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Put a, a little blue cheese on there.

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Yeah.

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Pepper jack.

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Blue cheese.

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I like

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it.

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Uh, this is, uh, this question's from Mayor Emeritus when I say that.

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What, what do you think?

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I mean,

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uh, well, so Mayor Emeritus is a previous, uh, uh, uh, one of our previous mayors.

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The Mayor Emeritus Mayor.

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Mayor.

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The Mayor.

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So that's the pre the mayor previous to Jenny Arn, which would be Mayor Troxel.

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Yes.

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That's what I call

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him.

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Anyway.

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I just call him Wade.

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Well, too, um, his question you've already heard,'cause it came from a thing, but he wanted to repeat it in this Live Forever digital forum.

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Perfect.

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Fort Collins has been described as the Choice City of Colorado and is known for beers, bikes, and bands.

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Yes.

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And more.

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What's your vision for the evolving brand of Fort Collins?

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Uh, in 30 years from now, what could or should Fort Collins be known for?

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So

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I still see us being known as the beer, um, bands and bikes.

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Um, our platinum rated status as being a biking community isn't going away.

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Right.

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Uh, we're, we got, we got a flat town with lots of trails.

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We have invested a ton in it.

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It's people and it brings people here and it's amazing.

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Um, and so, and beer will probably go through a cycle change again.

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Um, so, uh, maybe we'll be a cider and beer or maybe a a I wouldn't be surprised if it comes back.

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Yeah.

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Because like seltzers took over the world and now it's still but boring.

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Like it's about as exciting as seltzer waters, right?

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A hundred

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percent.

00:25:24.528 --> 00:25:30.019
And I think we hit when we hit like 30 breweries, uh, right turn of, um, last decade.

00:25:30.094 --> 00:25:31.909
I, I think 30 was maybe too many.

00:25:31.909 --> 00:25:33.588
I think hovering around that 25.

00:25:33.648 --> 00:25:33.949
Sure.

00:25:34.249 --> 00:25:34.459
Yeah.

00:25:34.489 --> 00:25:35.269
25 is fine.

00:25:35.269 --> 00:25:36.078
30 is too much.

00:25:36.134 --> 00:25:36.253
Okay.

00:25:36.433 --> 00:25:49.078
Uh, but, uh, so I, I still see us being there and with, and with, um, the support and the kind of the, uh, increase of, uh, music awareness from um, um, pat Stryker and Sure.

00:25:49.078 --> 00:25:50.239
The Wash Washingtons

00:25:50.269 --> 00:25:51.558
Bohemians and Washington Bo found.

00:25:52.499 --> 00:25:53.548
I don't think that's going away.

00:25:53.548 --> 00:25:54.179
Unlikely

00:25:54.239 --> 00:25:55.318
music won't be a big part.

00:25:55.318 --> 00:25:55.409
No.

00:25:55.409 --> 00:25:55.648
Okay.

00:25:55.648 --> 00:25:57.028
So what B should we add?

00:25:57.028 --> 00:25:58.769
Is there a b we can add to that?

00:25:58.858 --> 00:26:00.028
So business,

00:26:00.203 --> 00:26:00.443
I think,

00:26:00.544 --> 00:26:03.328
oh, I think to really, it'd be nice to re add that.

00:26:03.358 --> 00:26:11.729
'cause the business community is kind of like, I started local think tank when kind of the number of like startups and excitement and stuff was almost at its peak.

00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:12.118
Yeah.

00:26:12.358 --> 00:26:13.048
And it's waned.

00:26:13.439 --> 00:26:14.068
It's waned.

00:26:14.068 --> 00:26:17.999
And I think we have a lot of ability to bring in more businesses.

00:26:18.028 --> 00:26:18.328
Okay.

00:26:18.419 --> 00:26:20.878
Um, both local and, uh, homegrown.

00:26:20.878 --> 00:26:27.479
But also, uh, and I talked about this last week is, uh, we need to become an innovation hub for clean energy.

00:26:27.838 --> 00:26:30.838
Uh, especially we have this brown cloud say over Fort Collins.

00:26:30.898 --> 00:26:31.078
Sure.

00:26:31.078 --> 00:26:32.038
Because of the inversion.

00:26:32.038 --> 00:26:34.048
Like, we sit on a bowl and everything goes over us.

00:26:34.199 --> 00:26:34.288
Yep.

00:26:34.469 --> 00:26:39.388
So let's attract a whole lot of innovative companies to test out air scrubber, to test out ways to clean.

00:26:39.749 --> 00:26:39.838
Um.

00:26:40.753 --> 00:26:41.354
The air.

00:26:41.534 --> 00:26:41.804
Okay.

00:26:41.894 --> 00:26:46.304
We, we already try to be a, a green carbon neutral city.

00:26:46.308 --> 00:26:46.479
Yeah.

00:26:46.483 --> 00:26:46.604
Yeah.

00:26:46.784 --> 00:26:50.834
So let's, and we have a lot of space, not just locally, within Fort Collins.

00:26:50.834 --> 00:26:53.864
We're kind of landlocked space wise, but we have a lot of prairies.

00:26:53.864 --> 00:26:59.023
We have a lot of, um, surrounding areas that we could really use to really develop new technology.

00:26:59.084 --> 00:26:59.294
Hmm.

00:26:59.564 --> 00:27:10.693
And so we went through that computer tech bubble in the two thousands, I think, not to do a bubble, but I think we should go back to attracting some clean energy.

00:27:11.173 --> 00:27:11.263
Mm-hmm.

00:27:11.265 --> 00:27:11.653
Some clean tech.

00:27:11.653 --> 00:27:12.943
And so in 20 years, I mean,

00:27:12.943 --> 00:27:13.903
energy is money.

00:27:14.084 --> 00:27:15.854
It is in, in my view, like there like.

00:27:17.278 --> 00:27:22.618
Oil or electricity of any sort is more like money than money's like money because you can't just print it.

00:27:22.709 --> 00:27:23.848
You gotta get it from somewhere.

00:27:23.909 --> 00:27:25.828
I think whoever invents or conserv

00:27:25.828 --> 00:27:27.358
it right, conserv

00:27:27.388 --> 00:27:27.689
it.

00:27:27.689 --> 00:27:31.048
Whoever invents the mass energy storage capacity.

00:27:31.638 --> 00:27:37.548
So like, um, the solid state batteries, but for mega tons of megawatts.

00:27:37.554 --> 00:27:37.794
Yeah.

00:27:37.798 --> 00:27:37.999
Yeah.

00:27:38.088 --> 00:27:39.348
Will be the next Rockefeller.

00:27:39.439 --> 00:27:40.693
They'll be the next or the next.

00:27:40.693 --> 00:27:40.729
Yeah.

00:27:40.729 --> 00:27:41.058
I would

00:27:41.058 --> 00:27:42.979
say that's if they can protect it.

00:27:43.219 --> 00:27:44.028
If they can protect it.

00:27:44.028 --> 00:27:44.239
Right.

00:27:44.509 --> 00:27:55.159
And so if we can attract those businesses here and we will create jobs or create, and a lot of these tech businesses are all about providing housing for their employees.

00:27:55.338 --> 00:28:02.419
So then we can actually do public partner, private, uh, uh, partnerships to build employee semis, onsite

00:28:02.419 --> 00:28:03.378
housing or semi kinds of things.

00:28:03.378 --> 00:28:04.153
Site housing,

00:28:04.429 --> 00:28:07.669
um, employee, employer subsidized housing is what it's been.

00:28:07.669 --> 00:28:08.058
Sure.

00:28:08.058 --> 00:28:08.479
I've heard.

00:28:09.019 --> 00:28:09.318
Interesting.

00:28:09.318 --> 00:28:11.929
S Park has done this a little bit with some of their communities.

00:28:12.048 --> 00:28:12.318
Interesting.

00:28:12.318 --> 00:28:16.098
So other communities have done this and it's been successful'cause it adds housing.

00:28:16.459 --> 00:28:18.348
Um, and it adds jobs and it adds.

00:28:18.348 --> 00:28:25.308
So I think, um, it's not b but I think like, uh, we really need to become an A innovative, better energy.

00:28:25.368 --> 00:28:25.548
Yeah.

00:28:25.548 --> 00:28:26.598
Better energy test.

00:28:26.598 --> 00:28:26.913
That's the b.

00:28:27.584 --> 00:28:28.364
For you better energy.

00:28:28.844 --> 00:28:29.354
So my,

00:28:29.354 --> 00:28:34.723
uh, actually my, my very first invention in my brain, it hasn't happened yet.

00:28:34.753 --> 00:28:34.784
Okay.

00:28:34.784 --> 00:28:39.854
But it was a, it was actually a solid state, uh, electrical storage thing.

00:28:40.124 --> 00:28:40.544
Nice.

00:28:40.874 --> 00:28:46.574
Um, what I wanted to build was, you know, basically the, you know, the old tops, we would spin it Yeah.

00:28:46.574 --> 00:28:47.294
And go forever.

00:28:47.294 --> 00:28:52.304
And especially the ones with the, with the wide disk perpetual motion, like, like the wide disk and then the pointy thing.

00:28:52.304 --> 00:28:54.223
And it would just go a long time.

00:28:54.223 --> 00:28:54.493
Right.

00:28:54.884 --> 00:28:54.943
Yeah.

00:28:55.153 --> 00:28:59.923
I wanted to do that, but have it be like a mile wide and heavy as shit.

00:29:00.463 --> 00:29:05.294
And then put a big antenna up and every time a thunderstorm goes across North Dakota and there's lightning.

00:29:05.818 --> 00:29:11.009
That lightning goes into the antenna and the antenna like makes the disc spin a little faster

00:29:11.608 --> 00:29:12.703
and provides that turbine.

00:29:12.703 --> 00:29:12.864
Yeah.

00:29:12.864 --> 00:29:13.648
And it sits turbine

00:29:13.653 --> 00:29:18.808
it, it sits on a, and it sits on like a superconductor elevated magnetic thing.

00:29:18.808 --> 00:29:20.398
So there's almost no friction loss.

00:29:20.403 --> 00:29:20.584
And

00:29:20.584 --> 00:29:21.088
then it, and

00:29:21.088 --> 00:29:24.898
it just gets going faster and faster every time lightning strikes, it just goes faster and faster.

00:29:24.898 --> 00:29:37.378
And then you just draw it down And um, as you go, and aside from the fact that if it came off of its spinner, it would like wreck dozens of counties.

00:29:37.499 --> 00:29:38.128
That's true.

00:29:38.134 --> 00:29:39.344
If you put it something, I think

00:29:39.344 --> 00:29:41.969
if you position in the right spot in North Dakota Right.

00:29:41.969 --> 00:29:42.929
It would probably be fine.

00:29:42.929 --> 00:29:43.584
Even, it would be fine.

00:29:43.769 --> 00:29:46.499
It would wreck dozens of individuals homes.

00:29:47.308 --> 00:29:47.638
Right.

00:29:48.118 --> 00:29:50.398
If it went for like a hundred mile tour across the state.

00:29:50.429 --> 00:29:50.638
Yeah.

00:29:50.878 --> 00:29:52.858
But anyway, that was the, like the major failing.

00:29:52.858 --> 00:29:56.969
But I think that Kinetic, are you familiar with kinetic core in Loveland?

00:29:56.969 --> 00:29:57.028
Yeah.

00:29:57.749 --> 00:29:59.578
Like that kind of actually storing things.

00:29:59.578 --> 00:30:02.999
Kinetically in the world we have now might actually be.

00:30:03.868 --> 00:30:08.608
Useful because we can capture solar and actually use it when you need it.

00:30:08.638 --> 00:30:09.028
Correct.

00:30:09.028 --> 00:30:09.088
Yeah.

00:30:09.088 --> 00:30:09.419
Because that's

00:30:09.419 --> 00:30:10.348
the big thing, right?

00:30:10.378 --> 00:30:10.888
Exactly.

00:30:10.888 --> 00:30:14.308
That's the, that's why like raw high power plant needs to still exist.

00:30:14.308 --> 00:30:15.328
Not coal power one.

00:30:15.328 --> 00:30:16.288
We're closing that down, right?

00:30:16.288 --> 00:30:16.469
Right.

00:30:16.469 --> 00:30:17.098
For three years.

00:30:17.489 --> 00:30:23.338
But the solar and the wind's good unless it's, uh, cold nine in the middle of December.

00:30:23.338 --> 00:30:23.519
Right.

00:30:23.878 --> 00:30:25.409
And there's no wind and there's no solar.

00:30:25.409 --> 00:30:26.608
But you need that base load power.

00:30:26.608 --> 00:30:27.269
You need a ton.

00:30:27.568 --> 00:30:33.959
So, and this was years ago, Woodward Governor did like a study, um, that if the power goes down and they like.

00:30:34.239 --> 00:30:37.814
They have a hiccup in their supply chain, like their manufacturing chain.

00:30:37.844 --> 00:30:38.084
Yeah.

00:30:38.354 --> 00:30:40.273
Just like a co, like a second or two.

00:30:40.663 --> 00:30:44.203
It will put all their parts off by like a 10th of a degree till it resets.

00:30:44.233 --> 00:30:44.683
Oh shit.

00:30:44.683 --> 00:30:46.483
And that could cost'em like$20 million,

00:30:46.723 --> 00:30:47.023
right?

00:30:47.054 --> 00:30:47.324
Yeah.

00:30:47.328 --> 00:30:48.009
It's something Yeah.

00:30:48.013 --> 00:30:48.074
It's

00:30:48.074 --> 00:30:49.423
important that the power doesn't go down.

00:30:49.483 --> 00:30:49.903
Correct.

00:30:50.324 --> 00:30:54.134
Um, I mean it's why you can't have any advanced industries in South Africa right now.

00:30:54.163 --> 00:30:54.554
Correct.

00:30:54.703 --> 00:30:56.713
Their power isn't developed enough.

00:30:56.713 --> 00:30:58.423
You could never make a cinema conductor there.

00:30:58.453 --> 00:31:04.003
And so we have pretty clean and pretty, uh, and we're already, I think close to 80% renewable power.

00:31:04.213 --> 00:31:04.874
Oh really?

00:31:04.874 --> 00:31:05.114
Yeah.

00:31:05.114 --> 00:31:05.894
We're really close.

00:31:05.894 --> 00:31:07.844
I think 76 or 78%.

00:31:08.473 --> 00:31:09.913
Uh, and interesting.

00:31:10.094 --> 00:31:10.604
But,

00:31:11.203 --> 00:31:21.673
but actual, proper storage is really where you need to be because, because even though you're up to 75, 70 6% clean power, they're paying a double ass butt load.

00:31:21.703 --> 00:31:22.993
No, forgive my language.

00:31:23.023 --> 00:31:23.173
Yeah.

00:31:23.354 --> 00:31:28.874
To have the insurance of having a ton of coal and or uh, uh, natural gas.

00:31:28.874 --> 00:31:28.933
Yeah.

00:31:29.384 --> 00:31:29.808
Ready to go.

00:31:30.584 --> 00:31:30.973
Correct.

00:31:30.973 --> 00:31:34.034
Even though they don't burn it, they try not to burn it, try hard not to burn it.

00:31:34.243 --> 00:31:36.763
But they gotta pay a ton to have it ready to go.

00:31:36.824 --> 00:31:37.364
A hundred percent.

00:31:37.364 --> 00:31:43.634
And that's why they're going with the new, um, uh, turbines that as a planning commissioner for county.

00:31:43.693 --> 00:31:44.528
They can wrap up really quick.

00:31:44.534 --> 00:31:44.894
I approved.

00:31:45.074 --> 00:31:46.304
Yeah, they can wrap up in minutes.

00:31:46.513 --> 00:31:49.213
And so if the load increases, turn'em on.

00:31:49.453 --> 00:31:52.003
If they're not, if can have power failures.

00:31:52.364 --> 00:31:52.634
Correct.

00:31:53.144 --> 00:31:53.354
Yep.

00:31:53.413 --> 00:31:54.284
Gotta have power.

00:31:54.433 --> 00:31:54.673
Cool.

00:31:54.703 --> 00:31:55.364
Um, so yeah,

00:31:55.483 --> 00:31:55.753
I'm all

00:31:55.753 --> 00:31:55.903
in.

00:31:55.963 --> 00:31:59.324
All right, next, uh, next flavor please.

00:31:59.354 --> 00:32:00.493
Good anticipation.

00:32:00.493 --> 00:32:02.473
Ava, you like we're running behind?

00:32:02.473 --> 00:32:03.794
You gotta speed it up a little bit.

00:32:04.394 --> 00:32:05.084
Oh yeah.

00:32:05.084 --> 00:32:07.753
You can shut me off whenever I, I'll talk forever.

00:32:07.784 --> 00:32:08.263
I know you will.

00:32:09.193 --> 00:32:09.213
That's okay.

00:32:09.213 --> 00:32:10.003
That's part of my job.

00:32:10.094 --> 00:32:11.413
Uh, so this ones then we're gonna take

00:32:11.413 --> 00:32:12.703
a break after this one, by the way.

00:32:12.763 --> 00:32:13.124
Oh, sweet.

00:32:13.124 --> 00:32:14.923
We do a mid, mid, mid round break.

00:32:15.028 --> 00:32:16.808
Uh, this is, uh, I get some milk for the back part.

00:32:16.969 --> 00:32:18.523
This brew house sauces.

00:32:18.523 --> 00:32:21.523
It's by Old Town Spice Shop and it's Rebel Uprising.

00:32:21.523 --> 00:32:25.003
So it's an, uh, a Salvador heat spark with, uh, this one.

00:32:25.183 --> 00:32:25.784
I love it.

00:32:25.814 --> 00:32:26.354
Chicken chilies.

00:32:26.594 --> 00:32:27.888
I already can tell you I love it.

00:32:27.888 --> 00:32:28.003
I love it.

00:32:28.094 --> 00:32:29.413
I could, I could drink it.

00:32:30.328 --> 00:32:37.108
Um, I can't because I'm going to have a tough night just the way it is with what's ahead of us.

00:32:37.108 --> 00:32:41.128
But I love this sauce even without trying it.

00:32:41.338 --> 00:32:41.669
There you go.

00:32:43.348 --> 00:32:43.618
Hmm.

00:32:48.749 --> 00:32:52.108
It makes me want to sign up for the, for the South.

00:32:55.078 --> 00:32:55.259
Okay.

00:32:57.898 --> 00:33:00.929
You know, I, it actually carries a little bit of a early sweet note.

00:33:01.679 --> 00:33:01.888
Hmm.

00:33:02.278 --> 00:33:02.699
Yeah, it does.

00:33:05.429 --> 00:33:10.769
And I think that's part of what I love about it, is it, like, it introduces itself so nicely.

00:33:10.769 --> 00:33:12.179
It's, it's not hot.

00:33:12.328 --> 00:33:12.628
Mm-hmm.

00:33:13.528 --> 00:33:19.588
But it's like, you can probably, I'm, I'm starting to beat up just a little bit.

00:33:19.588 --> 00:33:20.098
It's hot.

00:33:20.189 --> 00:33:20.759
It is hot.

00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:22.919
Like it's a good, there's a good tongue feel.

00:33:23.653 --> 00:33:26.564
Yeah, you get all the way through the tongue and then the back of the throat.

00:33:27.044 --> 00:33:31.544
Um, probably I, I'm hearing my voice change, um, as I'm eating it.

00:33:32.144 --> 00:33:32.503
Um,

00:33:32.534 --> 00:33:40.124
you know when you get, when you used to get, yeah, it never happens anymore, but occasionally back maybe five or eight years ago, you Yeah.

00:33:40.124 --> 00:33:40.753
More than five.

00:33:40.784 --> 00:33:41.953
'cause that was COVID Nation.

00:33:42.013 --> 00:33:42.403
Yeah.

00:33:42.463 --> 00:33:45.733
But you used to get hot wings when they're just like drenched in sauce.

00:33:45.733 --> 00:33:55.483
You go to Buffalo Wild Wings or something, and they're just like covered with sauce When they come out to you and whatever that sauce on those wings, you'd be like, oh, thank you for.

00:33:56.249 --> 00:33:57.868
Blessing me with that extra,

00:33:57.989 --> 00:34:00.419
a nice extra crispy wing.

00:34:00.419 --> 00:34:00.689
Totally.

00:34:01.169 --> 00:34:03.328
With that, which is, that would be a perfect

00:34:03.358 --> 00:34:03.628
Yep.

00:34:03.778 --> 00:34:04.019
Yeah.

00:34:04.078 --> 00:34:05.638
Wing and not Buffalo Wild Wings.

00:34:05.638 --> 00:34:09.568
'cause we're talking local maybe, uh, locals or gyms or Memphis.

00:34:09.568 --> 00:34:10.318
Or Memphis.

00:34:10.409 --> 00:34:10.949
Who knows?

00:34:11.009 --> 00:34:11.159
Yeah.

00:34:11.188 --> 00:34:11.429
Uh,

00:34:11.458 --> 00:34:15.358
Moses, uh, what's the one on Lame Wingstop?

00:34:16.378 --> 00:34:17.849
Um, wing Shack?

00:34:17.849 --> 00:34:17.884
No, not Wingstop.

00:34:17.889 --> 00:34:18.478
Wing Shack.

00:34:18.478 --> 00:34:18.719
Yeah.

00:34:18.748 --> 00:34:25.259
That's like, I think they might have passed Jim's wing as kind of my preferred wing joint.

00:34:25.528 --> 00:34:33.389
I think they, we uh, we just had a debate, a couple of friends where we're gonna probably have both of'em'cause we're looking at which had the better Dining and Special.

00:34:33.449 --> 00:34:33.568
Mm-hmm.

00:34:33.809 --> 00:34:35.128
They're both within a penny.

00:34:35.188 --> 00:34:35.579
Yeah.

00:34:35.818 --> 00:34:42.119
Um, and the hot garlic, uh, hot sauce from Wing Check and is not local Fort Collins, but local Greeley starting in Greeley Close enough.

00:34:42.148 --> 00:34:42.628
Um, it

00:34:42.628 --> 00:34:44.998
is Northern Colorado is close enough to local for me.

00:34:45.028 --> 00:34:47.009
Will I give Greeley something sooner or later?

00:34:48.148 --> 00:34:48.748
They've got a lot.

00:34:48.748 --> 00:34:49.018
They've been

00:34:49.528 --> 00:34:53.219
taking all of the businesses that are economic development office.

00:34:53.628 --> 00:34:54.438
Greeley attracts

00:34:54.438 --> 00:34:55.398
to the northern Colorado.

00:34:55.458 --> 00:34:58.878
Greeley's now a very, um, big competitor.

00:34:58.909 --> 00:34:58.969
Yeah.

00:34:59.059 --> 00:35:00.228
Um, in the regional stage.

00:35:00.228 --> 00:35:00.409
Totally.

00:35:00.409 --> 00:35:03.648
20 years ago, as you know, like you talk to most people like Greeley.

00:35:03.708 --> 00:35:04.728
No, that's so far away.

00:35:04.728 --> 00:35:05.869
We'll never go there.

00:35:06.409 --> 00:35:08.628
Now Greeley is a, is a, Martin is going to Greeley.

00:35:08.898 --> 00:35:09.559
Martin's going, Greeley.

00:35:10.068 --> 00:35:11.628
Martin might be going to Greeley.

00:35:11.628 --> 00:35:12.079
We'll see.

00:35:12.289 --> 00:35:13.969
We'll see what the voters, uh, decide.

00:35:13.969 --> 00:35:14.028
Yeah.

00:35:14.028 --> 00:35:14.989
We better not get into that

00:35:14.989 --> 00:35:16.009
because that's squirrel.

00:35:16.009 --> 00:35:17.239
Chase will be too long.

00:35:17.298 --> 00:35:17.539
Yeah.

00:35:17.539 --> 00:35:20.778
We'll be talking in a couple hours and someone will get a cease and desist letter.

00:35:22.369 --> 00:35:23.119
Question number four.

00:35:23.628 --> 00:35:24.949
Uh, this is from our other.

00:35:25.889 --> 00:35:28.438
Friend Sean Godby from Old Town Spice Shop.

00:35:28.438 --> 00:35:28.858
Yes.

00:35:29.548 --> 00:35:36.028
The proposal for paid on street parking in Fort Collins aims to address revenue and parking turnover.

00:35:36.898 --> 00:35:45.898
How do you plan to balance the city's need for revenue and parking management with concerns of business owners and customers regarding accessibility and affordability?

00:35:46.409 --> 00:35:47.309
So I,

00:35:47.369 --> 00:35:50.338
uh, I served on the parking advisory board Okay.

00:35:50.338 --> 00:35:51.208
When the city had one.

00:35:51.208 --> 00:35:52.798
So I served on that for five years.

00:35:53.219 --> 00:35:59.429
Uh, and we were talking about trying to do a paid parking pilot program, maybe on Pine.

00:36:00.088 --> 00:36:00.119
Okay.

00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:04.739
Um, and we were also talking about moving the hours from 10, from eight to four to 10 to six.

00:36:04.858 --> 00:36:05.159
Okay.

00:36:06.028 --> 00:36:08.248
Both were talking about those well over a decade ago.

00:36:08.309 --> 00:36:08.699
Right.

00:36:08.789 --> 00:36:17.518
And they couldn't even get the money, um, uh, the$80,000 to replace all the signs to go from a eight to four to 10 to six.

00:36:17.579 --> 00:36:18.148
Oh, interesting.

00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:21.539
And'cause, well in pines, like the sneaky spot where you can get parking.

00:36:21.889 --> 00:36:22.759
Get parking and that.

00:36:22.759 --> 00:36:22.849
Like,

00:36:22.849 --> 00:36:23.809
why do I pay for it there?

00:36:23.809 --> 00:36:25.159
Yeah, I'll just go to the parking garage.

00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:25.369
Sorry.

00:36:25.369 --> 00:36:25.639
So,

00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:26.148
no, no.

00:36:26.389 --> 00:36:31.789
But we were looking at different pilot areas to do that and we couldn't figure out how to actually implement it back then.

00:36:31.818 --> 00:36:34.128
And that's when we didn't have a pandemic that we went through.

00:36:34.548 --> 00:36:37.608
That's when we weren't, we weren't already in a budget shortfall.

00:36:37.728 --> 00:36:37.938
Right.

00:36:37.938 --> 00:36:41.989
And that's not, um, before the old town businesses are gonna be struggling with a year long.

00:36:41.989 --> 00:36:48.318
All these property taxes, property taxes, rent, s increases, and, and college will be part of insurance increases shutdown for a year.

00:36:48.318 --> 00:36:51.139
And so I, and college will be shut down for a year.

00:36:51.739 --> 00:36:52.458
Parts it, oh, if they were

00:36:52.458 --> 00:36:54.199
gonna try to charge for it there or

00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:56.298
no, they're having to replace, uh.

00:36:56.358 --> 00:36:58.878
Water main or uh, high down college.

00:36:58.878 --> 00:36:59.838
When is that happening?

00:36:59.929 --> 00:37:01.639
I think sometime in the next year.

00:37:01.759 --> 00:37:02.298
Oh wow.

00:37:02.329 --> 00:37:04.039
Um, through maybe 20, 26.

00:37:04.068 --> 00:37:04.309
Oh dang.

00:37:04.309 --> 00:37:07.403
But it's gonna be, there's gonna be, um, disruption for like a year.

00:37:07.403 --> 00:37:07.603
Yeah.

00:37:07.608 --> 00:37:07.619
So

00:37:07.619 --> 00:37:08.778
they'll divert a bunch of traffic up.

00:37:08.778 --> 00:37:10.639
Mason, I guess around Mason will go

00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:12.289
one lane on both sides.

00:37:12.349 --> 00:37:12.498
Yeah.

00:37:12.498 --> 00:37:15.048
It's really hard'cause it's a state road, right?

00:37:15.048 --> 00:37:15.498
Or state highway.

00:37:15.498 --> 00:37:16.188
Gotta keep it open.

00:37:16.248 --> 00:37:20.628
And then a city, so you have cdot, you got the city, you got the county.

00:37:20.628 --> 00:37:21.318
It's a mess.

00:37:21.768 --> 00:37:22.699
Um, interesting.

00:37:23.208 --> 00:37:30.018
And so, and Darren Berry, when I was on the parking advisory board, he's like, the reason I've been city manager for so long is'cause I never touch parking.

00:37:31.369 --> 00:37:34.849
And because no matter what you do, you're gonna piss off everyone.

00:37:35.748 --> 00:37:37.338
And I somewhat agree with that.

00:37:37.369 --> 00:37:42.199
Now, if we were looking at doing this because of, um, we're, so what's the problem right now?

00:37:42.829 --> 00:37:47.449
Problem is, is parking and the tar and the, the whole code enforcement department Yeah.

00:37:47.449 --> 00:37:47.458
Yeah.

00:37:47.659 --> 00:37:48.829
Is, um, what's this called?

00:37:48.829 --> 00:37:50.804
An enterprise fund, meaning they.

00:37:51.838 --> 00:37:56.789
Only can use the fund they collect to pay for the services, for the parking services.

00:37:57.389 --> 00:37:59.458
And so if they're not collecting enough fund and they, oh, they

00:37:59.458 --> 00:38:02.938
don't collect enough parking tickets to even pay for their services.

00:38:02.938 --> 00:38:07.498
And so they've been backfilling it with the general fund because we're in a, a rev, uh, budget

00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:08.668
deficit.

00:38:08.668 --> 00:38:18.059
Well, and they shouldn't if they no, if they can't send people out looking for parking tickets to make enough money to pay their own job, they shouldn't enforce it then.

00:38:18.088 --> 00:38:20.938
And we were looking at that turnover timeframe because get some

00:38:20.938 --> 00:38:21.929
drones or something.

00:38:21.929 --> 00:38:22.528
I don't know.

00:38:22.858 --> 00:38:30.179
We were looking, uh, I was part of the, it always annoys me when I, I see those parking people coming around and putting a little chalk thing'cause it's just so annoying.

00:38:30.268 --> 00:38:30.599
Yeah.

00:38:30.838 --> 00:38:31.378
Well

00:38:31.378 --> 00:38:35.369
and so we were looking at doing, um, and we, the company just lied to the city.

00:38:35.369 --> 00:38:36.449
So the city won a lawsuit.

00:38:36.478 --> 00:38:39.478
I think this last year when I was on the park advisory board.

00:38:39.509 --> 00:38:43.978
Um, we had a company come in and put these little sensors, pucks in each things.

00:38:44.489 --> 00:38:50.219
And the idea was, if you're like driving down there with ways or Google Maps, it would tell you which parking spot that was open.

00:38:50.548 --> 00:38:52.199
And it would update life every two minutes.

00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:56.099
So like as you're driving down the old town, it'd be like, here's a parking, parking park.

00:38:56.128 --> 00:38:56.219
Oh, so

00:38:56.219 --> 00:38:58.074
you can have extra special information and get it.

00:38:58.074 --> 00:38:58.273
Yeah.

00:38:58.708 --> 00:39:00.389
And then it would also, but the parking

00:39:00.389 --> 00:39:01.469
garages are never full.

00:39:01.498 --> 00:39:02.009
Correct.

00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:11.099
And that's why the, I encourage and I, I support moving from that eight to four to the 10 to six, that two hour parking window.

00:39:11.338 --> 00:39:11.728
Okay.

00:39:11.818 --> 00:39:14.668
Because the, as you know, in Old Town, yep.

00:39:15.148 --> 00:39:17.278
8, 9, 10 o'clock most mornings.

00:39:17.309 --> 00:39:17.369
Yeah.

00:39:17.369 --> 00:39:19.168
Even seven Sundays, you, you can find parking anywhere.

00:39:19.168 --> 00:39:19.409
Yeah,

00:39:19.648 --> 00:39:20.068
totally.

00:39:20.188 --> 00:39:23.188
Um, but the employees get there.

00:39:23.188 --> 00:39:24.568
A lot of employees get there at four.

00:39:24.574 --> 00:39:24.634
Right.

00:39:24.634 --> 00:39:27.898
And park in front of the, um, restaurant or business.

00:39:27.989 --> 00:39:28.108
Right.

00:39:28.108 --> 00:39:30.268
And then they don't move the car for the rest of the night.

00:39:30.358 --> 00:39:30.659
Yep.

00:39:30.778 --> 00:39:38.699
We moved it till 6:00 PM and force it till 6:00 PM then it would force those employees to park in the parking garage.

00:39:38.759 --> 00:39:39.179
Right.

00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:40.918
And that would open up that turnover.

00:39:41.398 --> 00:39:43.079
And even if you have a low.

00:39:43.603 --> 00:39:46.784
Price on the parking garage, at least it's revenue for all those open spaces.

00:39:46.784 --> 00:39:47.173
Correct.

00:39:47.173 --> 00:39:47.893
It's revenue.

00:39:47.893 --> 00:39:52.253
And then, um, work with the, the business owners, and I think they already do this.

00:39:52.418 --> 00:39:52.719
I think it's like even

00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.273
discounted passes for employees and stuff like that.

00:39:55.273 --> 00:39:55.333
Yeah.

00:39:55.333 --> 00:39:56.458
It's like 20, I think right now it's 20 bucks month.

00:39:56.458 --> 00:39:56.469
Yeah.

00:39:56.469 --> 00:39:57.014
That would be the best.

00:39:57.014 --> 00:40:12.463
Like one of the things that a, I had an old boss, uh, in banking that was kind of a jerk, but he told me one good thing at least, maybe a few, which was never take up your customer's valuable parking space.

00:40:12.494 --> 00:40:12.673
No.

00:40:12.733 --> 00:40:14.264
When you're going to go visit them.

00:40:14.893 --> 00:40:16.543
And the same thing for your employees.

00:40:16.574 --> 00:40:16.724
Yeah.

00:40:17.173 --> 00:40:23.534
Like if you're an old town employee listening to this and you try to park on the street, you should probably not do that.

00:40:23.534 --> 00:40:23.594
No.

00:40:23.684 --> 00:40:29.534
Let that come for the people who are paying and go park in the parking garage and figure it out with your boss, how to keep that space open for.

00:40:29.579 --> 00:40:29.728
Retail,

00:40:30.298 --> 00:40:31.798
the parking garages are retail customers.

00:40:31.798 --> 00:40:33.329
All, all well lit.

00:40:33.389 --> 00:40:40.228
And I would also, so part of it, I would do, uh, I would, so instead of doing paid parking, I would try the 10, 10 to six thing.

00:40:40.289 --> 00:40:40.528
Yep.

00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:43.679
To update that whole, um, signage.

00:40:43.708 --> 00:40:45.239
It's about 75, 80,000.

00:40:45.268 --> 00:40:47.909
It's not cheap, but it's a lot cheaper than implementing paid parking.

00:40:47.909 --> 00:40:48.088
Sure.

00:40:48.929 --> 00:40:52.259
And look at that for two or three years if we're not seeing what the.

00:40:52.858 --> 00:40:55.168
Um, what do you need to do and, and antenna goal?

00:40:55.588 --> 00:40:57.119
Then we can then the, the real problem right

00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.869
now is they don't make enough money enforcing parking to pay for parking.

00:41:01.048 --> 00:41:01.858
No enforcement.

00:41:02.369 --> 00:41:04.079
Um, and it's just, it's,

00:41:04.289 --> 00:41:06.659
sorry, I, I'm just, I don't wanna dwell there.

00:41:06.748 --> 00:41:08.878
It's, it's so hard and I, I agree.

00:41:08.878 --> 00:41:13.619
Like, and I, I'm French with, um, the, the parking manager and, and the, the code enforce manager.

00:41:13.619 --> 00:41:13.708
Sure.

00:41:13.708 --> 00:41:18.059
Like they're great, but a lot of it, they didn't want to have people work that 10 to six.

00:41:18.088 --> 00:41:23.579
They wanted them eight to four'cause they didn't wanna put tension again into overtime or have someone not sure be at a worth all six.

00:41:24.148 --> 00:41:26.518
But if you're any a job you have about all factors though.

00:41:26.518 --> 00:41:27.059
Yeah.

00:41:27.389 --> 00:41:29.068
You just get used to working that 10 to six.

00:41:29.068 --> 00:41:29.159
Sure.

00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:36.568
Or you hire people knowing perfectly well, hey, this is a parking enforcement officer, the hours are 9 45 to six 15.

00:41:37.139 --> 00:41:39.599
Well, and they probably could have different hours for different people.

00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:39.869
Correct.

00:41:39.869 --> 00:41:39.963
Or Correct.

00:41:39.963 --> 00:41:40.083
Yeah.

00:41:40.088 --> 00:41:40.139
Or

00:41:40.139 --> 00:41:41.369
part-time or whatnot.

00:41:41.369 --> 00:41:41.489
Right.

00:41:41.489 --> 00:41:41.938
Totally.

00:41:42.268 --> 00:41:45.838
And so I think we should go that route, see what we can do.

00:41:46.798 --> 00:41:48.659
I think we'd increase the generation of funds.

00:41:48.929 --> 00:41:50.793
'cause it would push more people to the parking garages.

00:41:50.793 --> 00:41:50.994
Right,

00:41:50.994 --> 00:41:51.389
right, right.

00:41:51.478 --> 00:41:54.028
Um, because they're, what they're, are they more than half full?

00:41:54.358 --> 00:41:54.628
No.

00:41:54.958 --> 00:41:56.309
The, the parking garages are Right.

00:41:56.369 --> 00:41:57.478
And there's like two days a year.

00:41:57.478 --> 00:41:57.958
That would be my

00:41:57.958 --> 00:42:00.869
opinion is we totally should not charge for on street parking.

00:42:00.898 --> 00:42:01.139
Yeah.

00:42:01.588 --> 00:42:03.688
Unless the parking garages are actually full.

00:42:03.778 --> 00:42:03.989
Yeah.

00:42:04.228 --> 00:42:04.708
Correct.

00:42:05.278 --> 00:42:09.088
Uh, and there is a mechanism or close to full, there is a mechanism.

00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:09.389
And then we

00:42:09.389 --> 00:42:10.349
should build more parking garages.

00:42:10.349 --> 00:42:10.739
Correct.

00:42:11.579 --> 00:42:16.438
Like the one, um, behind the Tony's where it's gonna be that half, um, affordable housing.

00:42:16.438 --> 00:42:16.528
Mm-hmm.

00:42:16.768 --> 00:42:21.298
Like 28 units and then uh, two and a half or three story parking garage.

00:42:21.358 --> 00:42:21.568
Right.

00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:26.458
Um, that would've been more parking than currently there and provide housing.

00:42:26.668 --> 00:42:26.849
Right.

00:42:26.849 --> 00:42:30.659
But the city and all the wisdom said, let's do another study for a year.

00:42:30.688 --> 00:42:33.898
Even though we've done, I've been on so many task force study groups.

00:42:33.898 --> 00:42:34.289
Group You love

00:42:34.289 --> 00:42:34.918
committees though.

00:42:34.949 --> 00:42:39.628
I do, but after like 10 years of like studying the same thing, you're like, just do it.

00:42:39.688 --> 00:42:41.309
I had an old boss that, uh.

00:42:41.369 --> 00:42:46.798
It said, uh, uh, he groaned and groaned and gave birth to a gnat.

00:42:46.858 --> 00:42:47.099
Yeah.

00:42:48.688 --> 00:42:51.059
Sometimes it seems like what the city is doing with the parking problem,

00:42:51.059 --> 00:42:53.489
we do amazing planning.

00:42:53.489 --> 00:42:53.579
Right.

00:42:53.789 --> 00:42:55.199
We just don't implement the plans.

00:42:55.204 --> 00:42:55.733
Yeah, yeah.

00:42:55.768 --> 00:42:55.949
Yeah.

00:42:55.949 --> 00:42:59.668
And so I do think, um, I, I'm not supportive of going to the pay parking now.

00:42:59.668 --> 00:43:02.039
I think it's just a revenue to, to try to get revenue.

00:43:02.398 --> 00:43:02.579
Totally.

00:43:02.608 --> 00:43:03.719
Uh, and that's your only goal.

00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:04.858
And it would probably hurt business.

00:43:04.889 --> 00:43:05.414
It would hurt business.

00:43:05.414 --> 00:43:06.478
It would hurt business Also.

00:43:06.478 --> 00:43:09.389
What it would do, it would my business alienate the locals.

00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:13.199
If your tour is, you don't know, it's not pay market from today.

00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:13.588
Tomorrow.

00:43:13.619 --> 00:43:14.849
Like if you're here, you're great.

00:43:14.849 --> 00:43:15.298
Whatever.

00:43:15.509 --> 00:43:17.248
But there's 175.

00:43:17.248 --> 00:43:17.548
We should have a

00:43:17.608 --> 00:43:18.478
locals pass.

00:43:18.929 --> 00:43:19.918
That may not be

00:43:20.068 --> 00:43:20.278
Yeah.

00:43:20.548 --> 00:43:22.949
But I think of, it's so hard they would have like three more jobs.

00:43:23.699 --> 00:43:23.878
Yeah.

00:43:23.878 --> 00:43:25.619
To administer the locals pass program.

00:43:25.619 --> 00:43:25.858
Exactly.

00:43:25.949 --> 00:43:28.079
It would be more, it'd be worse.

00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:28.349
Too

00:43:28.349 --> 00:43:29.309
complicated.

00:43:29.398 --> 00:43:29.639
Yep.

00:43:29.818 --> 00:43:30.659
For the, the cost.

00:43:30.974 --> 00:43:31.153
Yeah.

00:43:31.153 --> 00:43:31.844
Announced benefits.

00:43:31.844 --> 00:43:31.994
Yep.

00:43:32.293 --> 00:43:35.264
Let's not alienate old town from the locals.

00:43:35.324 --> 00:43:39.494
Let's work to modify our behavior so people aren't parking on the street.

00:43:39.523 --> 00:43:39.733
Yeah.

00:43:39.733 --> 00:43:40.423
That worked well.

00:43:40.423 --> 00:43:45.764
Even an education program from a lot of the employers downtown that we're covering your garage parking.

00:43:45.853 --> 00:43:46.094
Yeah.

00:43:46.784 --> 00:43:47.054
Boom.

00:43:47.353 --> 00:43:47.623
Done.

00:43:48.208 --> 00:43:52.318
Uh, I think, uh, the owner, I, um, Steve, uh, I think it's Steve,

00:43:52.318 --> 00:43:54.688
Steve Taylor, probably from Austin's and

00:43:54.778 --> 00:43:56.759
no, uh, sios.

00:43:56.818 --> 00:43:58.349
Oh, that's Ty.

00:43:58.349 --> 00:43:58.358
Ty.

00:43:58.438 --> 00:43:58.798
Yeah.

00:43:59.099 --> 00:44:02.548
So he, I think he does pay for his employees to park in parking garage.

00:44:02.608 --> 00:44:02.909
Oh, cool.

00:44:03.059 --> 00:44:06.509
And I don't think he can even get half his employees because he said that at a city council.

00:44:06.509 --> 00:44:06.659
Right.

00:44:06.659 --> 00:44:06.838
They don't

00:44:06.838 --> 00:44:08.518
want to, they just wanna grab a spot.

00:44:08.608 --> 00:44:08.878
Yeah.

00:44:08.878 --> 00:44:12.239
He's all like, because they're parking when it's actually pretty easy to park

00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:12.809
at four.

00:44:13.139 --> 00:44:14.219
At 3 45.

00:44:14.248 --> 00:44:14.548
Yeah.

00:44:14.608 --> 00:44:15.809
Right in front of persimmon.

00:44:15.869 --> 00:44:16.018
Yep.

00:44:16.889 --> 00:44:19.648
You know, and so Robbie's like, come on man.

00:44:19.648 --> 00:44:21.809
Can't you leave my spot available?

00:44:21.869 --> 00:44:22.798
Oh, I love persimmon.

00:44:22.858 --> 00:44:26.458
They have a coffee, like, uh, that's, that's

00:44:26.458 --> 00:44:31.798
eclectic place in town that they, they have like this cold brew coffee soda.

00:44:31.798 --> 00:44:33.059
I like their little vinegar.

00:44:33.059 --> 00:44:33.748
Soda things.

00:44:33.748 --> 00:44:33.838
Yes.

00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:35.009
Uh, what do they call'em?

00:44:35.009 --> 00:44:37.889
Snatches or no, snuffs?

00:44:37.949 --> 00:44:38.434
No, I don't.

00:44:39.148 --> 00:44:39.778
I don't, I forget.

00:44:40.289 --> 00:44:40.648
I drink.

00:44:40.858 --> 00:44:42.809
I don't know what I just, they're like sugary vinegar thing.

00:44:42.809 --> 00:44:43.018
Yeah.

00:44:43.018 --> 00:44:44.068
I just point out the menu.

00:44:44.429 --> 00:44:44.938
I'll take that.

00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:47.039
We need to take a break.

00:44:47.278 --> 00:44:47.639
Awesome.

00:44:47.643 --> 00:44:47.983
Let's do it.

00:45:37.474 --> 00:45:38.043
And we're back.

00:45:38.103 --> 00:45:38.494
Awesome.

00:45:39.184 --> 00:45:42.934
And, uh, it looks like we're on the, uh, home stretch or the second half, which we have

00:45:42.934 --> 00:45:43.594
second half.

00:45:43.594 --> 00:45:44.643
I don't know if it's home stretch.

00:45:44.643 --> 00:45:47.193
It seems like the devastating stretch to me.

00:45:47.253 --> 00:45:52.563
Well, it seems like when all the hot sauces get fun and Sean and Paul just sit back and giggle, um, yeah.

00:45:53.193 --> 00:45:54.123
They know what they're doing.

00:45:54.123 --> 00:45:54.753
The people

00:45:55.563 --> 00:45:58.233
I've had, I've had most of these.

00:45:58.233 --> 00:46:00.034
I haven't had the last one, which.

00:46:00.648 --> 00:46:02.179
Paul doesn't bottle'cause it's too hot.

00:46:02.179 --> 00:46:02.929
Nobody will buy it.

00:46:03.349 --> 00:46:04.699
Uh, is it aloft?

00:46:04.849 --> 00:46:05.784
Yes, it's aloft.

00:46:06.048 --> 00:46:06.648
Oh, okay.

00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:10.039
Whenever I asked that to him earlier, he just grinned.

00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:11.583
And I was like, it's not olof is it?

00:46:12.443 --> 00:46:13.489
Is it aloft?

00:46:13.759 --> 00:46:14.143
Uh, I heard

00:46:14.423 --> 00:46:15.648
aloft like, oh, aloft.

00:46:15.664 --> 00:46:19.219
Like the, like a big Norwegian that's gonna slice your head off with an axe or something.

00:46:19.278 --> 00:46:23.688
Uh, it's the, the snow character from uh, frozen.

00:46:23.958 --> 00:46:24.498
Oh really?

00:46:24.528 --> 00:46:24.949
Okay.

00:46:24.949 --> 00:46:25.369
Gotcha.

00:46:25.458 --> 00:46:25.818
Yeah.

00:46:26.148 --> 00:46:27.978
And it's, um, stupid.

00:46:28.338 --> 00:46:29.028
Yes.

00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:29.929
Yes it is.

00:46:29.929 --> 00:46:30.278
Seems likely to be stupid.

00:46:30.278 --> 00:46:30.648
Um,

00:46:30.739 --> 00:46:32.929
I'm drinking milk already to pre prepare myself.

00:46:33.318 --> 00:46:34.579
Now that I know it's Olaf.

00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:35.539
Uh, can we get pep?

00:46:35.539 --> 00:46:35.958
No biz.

00:46:36.949 --> 00:46:38.358
No, we don't have

00:46:38.358 --> 00:46:38.869
that here.

00:46:39.228 --> 00:46:39.798
So we're gonna start.

00:46:39.798 --> 00:46:40.579
But you can have some milk.

00:46:40.608 --> 00:46:43.579
We're gonna start easier with just matador's the red.

00:46:43.608 --> 00:46:43.878
Yeah.

00:46:43.938 --> 00:46:46.998
This is just a nice kind of classic.

00:46:52.728 --> 00:46:54.018
I have more information than you.

00:46:54.018 --> 00:46:55.398
'cause I was almost Shirley already.

00:46:55.579 --> 00:46:56.028
Mm.

00:46:57.559 --> 00:46:58.824
But to me, this is just like a.

00:47:01.474 --> 00:47:02.463
Kind of a traditional

00:47:02.673 --> 00:47:02.824
mm-hmm.

00:47:04.054 --> 00:47:06.753
Tomato forward red

00:47:06.753 --> 00:47:08.193
sauce, very traditional.

00:47:09.304 --> 00:47:15.724
You know, this would blend really, really well with, um, just a good marinara for like a spicy bowl and eggs.

00:47:15.724 --> 00:47:16.143
Yeah.

00:47:16.534 --> 00:47:16.893
Yeah.

00:47:17.313 --> 00:47:18.454
Or even just a red chili.

00:47:18.634 --> 00:47:18.963
Mm.

00:47:19.143 --> 00:47:24.963
Honestly, you want, you want to move up from silver to gold on your chili contest.

00:47:25.594 --> 00:47:31.804
Maybe just put a quarter bottle of that in there, or a few drips on the top

00:47:32.434 --> 00:47:40.293
because it has a good, it's this whole, um, mouth feel good, tomato feel.

00:47:40.893 --> 00:47:45.753
Um, I feel a little vinegar in it.

00:47:46.083 --> 00:47:46.204
Yep.

00:47:46.204 --> 00:47:46.684
Which is good.

00:47:46.744 --> 00:47:46.983
Yep.

00:47:47.554 --> 00:47:49.773
Um, more oil or a vinegar based.

00:47:49.773 --> 00:47:55.864
So it's a good, and I, I like vinegar based, um, hot sauces a lot'cause they don't linger as much.

00:47:56.434 --> 00:47:56.733
Right.

00:47:56.943 --> 00:47:57.418
Um, so yeah.

00:47:57.514 --> 00:47:58.773
So they eventually dissipate.

00:47:58.804 --> 00:47:59.014
Yeah.

00:47:59.824 --> 00:48:01.474
The cap station doesn't, hold on.

00:48:01.744 --> 00:48:04.833
I got a haircut since my last episode with, with Shirley.

00:48:04.833 --> 00:48:11.884
I was psychedelic and so I could do like Mohawk and stuff, but I don't have the hair for it now.

00:48:11.884 --> 00:48:13.503
Now I'm to you're Yeah.

00:48:13.503 --> 00:48:14.403
I'm sweating up already.

00:48:14.554 --> 00:48:15.753
You're seen the beads a little bit.

00:48:15.753 --> 00:48:17.284
You're gonna see it run down my face.

00:48:17.824 --> 00:48:19.054
So have you had Olaf?

00:48:19.353 --> 00:48:19.804
No.

00:48:20.014 --> 00:48:20.523
Oh, okay.

00:48:20.733 --> 00:48:21.063
No.

00:48:21.063 --> 00:48:24.094
And I, I've those other two, what are they?

00:48:24.844 --> 00:48:25.204
Yeah.

00:48:25.293 --> 00:48:25.773
Slate.

00:48:25.773 --> 00:48:29.014
Jack Slays revenge is the one before that.

00:48:29.014 --> 00:48:31.503
I have had that, that was rough.

00:48:31.539 --> 00:48:31.829
Yeah.

00:48:32.043 --> 00:48:32.253
Yeah.

00:48:32.253 --> 00:48:33.753
Those are, those are good.

00:48:33.994 --> 00:48:34.443
They're rough.

00:48:35.373 --> 00:48:35.643
Yeah.

00:48:35.688 --> 00:48:37.054
The, yeah, but

00:48:37.054 --> 00:48:38.074
they're nothing like Olaf.

00:48:38.134 --> 00:48:38.373
No.

00:48:40.653 --> 00:48:41.643
That's the last dab.

00:48:41.673 --> 00:48:44.434
And you're gonna take more than I do, regardless of what we take.

00:48:44.434 --> 00:48:44.614
Yeah.

00:48:44.614 --> 00:48:44.643
Uh,

00:48:44.943 --> 00:48:47.103
you know, things I'll do to be, become mayor.

00:48:47.103 --> 00:48:47.463
I'm best fair

00:48:48.903 --> 00:48:50.224
social hot topic.

00:48:50.313 --> 00:48:50.733
Yeah.

00:48:51.304 --> 00:48:56.943
So we asked for, I, uh, I reached out and just kind of asked for what people were especially interested in.

00:48:58.429 --> 00:49:03.318
And, uh, homelessness was kind of one of the most recurring phrases there.

00:49:03.768 --> 00:49:08.869
How would you rate the city of Fort Collins on its homelessness initiatives in recent decades?

00:49:09.259 --> 00:49:10.938
'cause it's been a couple of 20 years.

00:49:10.938 --> 00:49:12.409
More plus or minus.

00:49:12.498 --> 00:49:12.679
Yeah.

00:49:13.099 --> 00:49:17.268
And what changes would you recommend to the program going forward to make it better?

00:49:18.889 --> 00:49:20.418
I think we've done a lot of positives.

00:49:20.449 --> 00:49:20.869
Um, okay.

00:49:20.869 --> 00:49:26.358
One, one aspect that I think we've done well is the community engagement through our unhoused population.

00:49:26.449 --> 00:49:26.719
Yeah.

00:49:27.228 --> 00:49:36.378
In particular Fort Collins PD Hope, um, department, um, or Hope Group, which is, uh, homeless outreach, uh, and prevention and prevention education.

00:49:36.829 --> 00:49:43.579
And they do a really good job of, um, uh, integrating and, and communicating with, um, those are unhoused and homeless.

00:49:43.759 --> 00:49:44.028
Mm-hmm.

00:49:44.838 --> 00:49:50.659
To really determine kind of what's the core root of, of the, what's causing that.

00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:53.028
And it's quite interesting where.

00:49:53.418 --> 00:50:02.958
Um, I think we've done a really, a much better job over the last decade or so of identifying those who are chronically homeless.

00:50:03.018 --> 00:50:03.349
Yeah.

00:50:03.438 --> 00:50:04.608
That are here year round.

00:50:04.998 --> 00:50:15.559
Um, and there's about 400 ish, um, individuals, um, and compared it to about the transients that come and go as weather or as as, um, the wind blows.

00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:15.798
The wind

00:50:15.798 --> 00:50:16.278
blows them.

00:50:16.369 --> 00:50:16.668
Yeah.

00:50:16.849 --> 00:50:17.778
And so Well, and

00:50:17.778 --> 00:50:20.088
there's also a third population probably that's like.

00:50:21.213 --> 00:50:26.253
Moms with a couple of kids that need help for a little while or very much whatever.

00:50:26.253 --> 00:50:26.583
Right.

00:50:26.614 --> 00:50:29.103
I, I've had, I've had friends and people that's, that gets laid off.

00:50:29.193 --> 00:50:41.914
I've had connections with where, uh, I had a gentleman that he lived in his car for a year because he was in a well paying job, lost a job, but refused to, um, lapse on his, uh, uh, childcare, or not childcare, uh, child support.

00:50:41.974 --> 00:50:42.094
Right.

00:50:42.094 --> 00:50:42.333
Right.

00:50:42.393 --> 00:50:45.034
So he couldn't afford both rent and Yep.

00:50:45.094 --> 00:50:46.623
Um, child, child support.

00:50:46.623 --> 00:50:48.213
So he just chose to live in his car.

00:50:48.273 --> 00:50:48.423
Yeah.

00:50:48.423 --> 00:50:50.824
His child support was X from when he made more money.

00:50:50.824 --> 00:50:51.273
Correct.

00:50:51.543 --> 00:50:51.994
And couldn't

00:50:51.994 --> 00:50:54.514
change it now, even though he still has a job.

00:50:54.603 --> 00:50:54.873
Yeah.

00:50:54.873 --> 00:50:58.324
And so there's, and so those, those temporary homeless, that's

00:50:58.324 --> 00:51:00.393
kinda the difference between the unhoused and the homeless.

00:51:00.398 --> 00:51:00.509
Yeah.

00:51:00.789 --> 00:51:07.054
Homeless is almost more of a long-term, um, kind of element.

00:51:07.054 --> 00:51:08.344
And unhoused is Yeah.

00:51:08.344 --> 00:51:08.793
Chronic.

00:51:08.824 --> 00:51:09.454
Yeah.

00:51:09.454 --> 00:51:10.309
And, and unhoused.

00:51:10.313 --> 00:51:13.324
And so depends on who you're talking to.

00:51:13.384 --> 00:51:14.014
Um.

00:51:14.628 --> 00:51:17.958
Some individuals do get the, it's that worse.

00:51:17.958 --> 00:51:19.398
So overall, sorry to interrupt you.

00:51:19.403 --> 00:51:19.909
No, no, you're good.

00:51:19.914 --> 00:51:20.054
You're good.

00:51:20.054 --> 00:51:20.989
But you're kind of wordy sometimes.

00:51:20.994 --> 00:51:21.153
I do, I do.

00:51:21.153 --> 00:51:21.858
So overall, the,

00:51:21.858 --> 00:51:26.119
the grade for Fort Collins currently over the last, say, 10 years, just

00:51:26.253 --> 00:51:27.108
b, B minus.

00:51:27.139 --> 00:51:27.378
Okay.

00:51:27.498 --> 00:51:28.398
Um, we, and

00:51:28.458 --> 00:51:29.509
what we doing wanna change,

00:51:29.869 --> 00:51:39.798
so I think we need to do a better job of, um, identifying still the root causes and have better system to help.

00:51:40.608 --> 00:51:41.898
Right Now there's, there's gaps.

00:51:41.929 --> 00:51:43.128
So, so, so, make it easy.

00:51:43.128 --> 00:51:58.579
So if you're, if you're going completely, if you're homeless and you're struggling with addiction or mental health or PTSD or you're a vet, we have systems kind of start you down the process to get housed or get treatment to have to better yourself as you choose.

00:51:58.608 --> 00:51:58.878
Yeah.

00:51:59.418 --> 00:52:01.009
The challenge is, is most of them,

00:52:01.009 --> 00:52:01.818
you gotta do it alone.

00:52:01.878 --> 00:52:02.809
Do it alone.

00:52:03.259 --> 00:52:09.378
And we have a great service that can start helping you here, but there's too big of a gap.

00:52:09.438 --> 00:52:19.338
Uh, to go to the next service where you may be weeks or months because of, um, capacity for our nonprofits and our programs and systems.

00:52:19.759 --> 00:52:24.559
Um, just sometimes navigating the system is as clear as mud.

00:52:24.918 --> 00:52:25.278
Okay.

00:52:25.548 --> 00:52:28.219
So we need to have a better holistic approach.

00:52:28.398 --> 00:52:28.579
Okay.

00:52:28.608 --> 00:52:40.309
So one thing I've, I've proposed for our nonprofits and homeless individuals, um, would be almost the city, have a couple, uh, nonprofit navigators or system navigators.

00:52:40.309 --> 00:52:40.318
Mm.

00:52:40.318 --> 00:52:40.643
Mm-hmm.

00:52:40.759 --> 00:52:46.338
Because it's so hard to navigate, especially if you are struggling with addiction, you are sure you don't have stable housing.

00:52:46.789 --> 00:52:51.259
Um, and so we can do, we can help'em navigate from point A to point B.

00:52:51.289 --> 00:52:51.619
Right.

00:52:51.739 --> 00:52:56.268
Um, and they have to take that step, but we can show'em how to take that step.

00:52:56.298 --> 00:52:56.719
Yeah.

00:52:56.719 --> 00:52:56.728
Yeah.

00:52:57.018 --> 00:53:04.668
Also, our city, uh, and our leaders are so, they want everything to be perfect, especially with our housing.

00:53:05.028 --> 00:53:07.188
So they, they, they don't give.

00:53:08.134 --> 00:53:15.664
We make it just as hard to build affordable housing that can be transitional housing than we do normal market rate housing.

00:53:15.693 --> 00:53:17.583
Now, I'm not saying we should build shanties

00:53:17.914 --> 00:53:18.094
Right.

00:53:18.094 --> 00:53:18.273
But at

00:53:18.273 --> 00:53:20.884
some point, those that are homeless and unhoused, they don't need to

00:53:20.884 --> 00:53:21.664
be R 38.

00:53:21.784 --> 00:53:22.293
Correct.

00:53:22.684 --> 00:53:23.974
Especially not in this mild climate.

00:53:23.974 --> 00:53:24.094
They

00:53:24.094 --> 00:53:26.284
don't need it to be ev electric ready.

00:53:26.284 --> 00:53:28.173
They just need a, a roof over their head.

00:53:28.443 --> 00:53:28.503
Yeah.

00:53:28.623 --> 00:53:31.804
And four walls that they can call home and have some stability.

00:53:32.434 --> 00:53:35.583
So that's where we can really gain and those are things that we can do.

00:53:35.583 --> 00:53:37.503
Like we can't change some outside.

00:53:37.594 --> 00:53:38.193
Um, sure.

00:53:38.494 --> 00:53:39.423
Influences.

00:53:39.873 --> 00:53:44.824
Um, we made a big progress on long view, um, mental health system.

00:53:45.034 --> 00:53:45.123
Sure.

00:53:45.184 --> 00:53:52.623
And I think as we expand that campus, we'll provide more acute and nuanced treatment and support mechanisms.

00:53:53.313 --> 00:53:57.423
Um, but that we're, we're struggling on funding from the, everything's funding related.

00:53:57.429 --> 00:53:57.648
Right.

00:53:58.324 --> 00:53:58.414
Right.

00:53:58.414 --> 00:54:01.923
So we can just make it as a stop gap.

00:54:02.313 --> 00:54:04.954
Have a couple navigators, maybe see if it doesn't

00:54:04.954 --> 00:54:06.724
take a lot of funding to have some navigators.

00:54:06.753 --> 00:54:06.903
Correct.

00:54:06.903 --> 00:54:08.914
And you might have better outcomes for better outcomes.

00:54:08.943 --> 00:54:09.184
Each of these

00:54:09.184 --> 00:54:10.833
people, uh, a little bit better.

00:54:10.864 --> 00:54:13.653
And, and also increase that the budget for the Hope team.

00:54:13.653 --> 00:54:15.664
So we do have that better community feel.

00:54:16.054 --> 00:54:21.903
So you do see the interactions between the community service, police services, and our homeless population.

00:54:22.173 --> 00:54:23.224
That's not negative.

00:54:23.224 --> 00:54:24.304
It's a positive influence.

00:54:24.304 --> 00:54:24.423
Yeah.

00:54:24.728 --> 00:54:24.809
Yeah.

00:54:24.994 --> 00:54:25.324
Dig it.

00:54:26.074 --> 00:54:26.733
You ready, Eva?

00:54:27.304 --> 00:54:28.893
We're ready for the next sauce.

00:54:29.344 --> 00:54:31.023
I know we're running a little bit behind.

00:54:31.623 --> 00:54:31.813
No, it's fine.

00:54:31.813 --> 00:54:32.164
It's okay.

00:54:32.614 --> 00:54:33.273
Not your fault.

00:54:33.278 --> 00:54:33.688
It's my fault.

00:54:33.949 --> 00:54:34.199
No, it's my fault.

00:54:34.744 --> 00:54:36.784
Well, I know you're wordy, but it's still my fault.

00:54:36.873 --> 00:54:37.353
I'm a host.

00:54:39.063 --> 00:54:39.753
What is this one?

00:54:40.563 --> 00:54:41.224
Oh, sorry.

00:54:41.523 --> 00:54:43.623
So room two, uh, 17.

00:54:43.684 --> 00:54:45.784
This might have been the final one last time.

00:54:45.813 --> 00:54:46.414
Oh really?

00:54:46.563 --> 00:54:46.804
Yeah.

00:54:47.014 --> 00:54:47.403
Okay.

00:54:47.583 --> 00:54:47.884
Yeah.

00:54:53.974 --> 00:54:54.273
Hmm.

00:54:54.454 --> 00:54:55.384
It's so delicious.

00:54:56.043 --> 00:54:57.724
And so, oh, painful.

00:54:58.114 --> 00:54:58.773
Not painful.

00:54:59.253 --> 00:54:59.914
No, this is.

00:55:00.963 --> 00:55:02.733
But it's gonna come and Oh yeah.

00:55:03.003 --> 00:55:05.313
Kick you in the back of the Well, it really comes in.

00:55:05.554 --> 00:55:05.853
Yeah.

00:55:05.853 --> 00:55:06.934
Comes in so late.

00:55:08.344 --> 00:55:08.583
Hmm.

00:55:09.844 --> 00:55:11.224
Like, oh, this is, we, this is easy.

00:55:11.224 --> 00:55:13.384
And then you back your throat, you're like, no, I can't believe

00:55:13.384 --> 00:55:15.333
I'm dipping so much sauce on these.

00:55:15.364 --> 00:55:17.494
That's, that's Sean and Paul.

00:55:18.454 --> 00:55:21.603
It's, you're really to blame.

00:55:22.623 --> 00:55:29.764
Like, I know that I'm gonna be up at four o'clock this morning on the toilet, not having any fun.

00:55:31.083 --> 00:55:35.164
I know that I'm gonna be sweatier than a dog here, but I go back and I dip it.

00:55:35.224 --> 00:55:35.943
Double dip it.

00:55:35.974 --> 00:55:36.063
Oh

00:55:36.063 --> 00:55:36.393
yeah.

00:55:36.634 --> 00:55:37.804
You don't have to follow me.

00:55:38.043 --> 00:55:38.373
I know.

00:55:38.373 --> 00:55:38.554
But

00:55:38.554 --> 00:55:38.704
I

00:55:38.704 --> 00:55:39.213
have to.

00:55:39.213 --> 00:55:39.664
It's so

00:55:39.664 --> 00:55:39.994
good.

00:55:41.884 --> 00:55:43.204
You know that one, that one's really good.

00:55:43.204 --> 00:55:44.434
'cause it starts forward.

00:55:44.643 --> 00:55:47.043
I, it's a little thicker too, so it lingers.

00:55:47.043 --> 00:55:47.134
Mm-hmm.

00:55:48.409 --> 00:55:49.248
So, yeah, it's fine.

00:55:49.309 --> 00:55:55.608
I mean, my face, I won't sweat, but I'm guessing my head's gonna turn as red as you're getting a little red.

00:55:55.699 --> 00:55:56.809
Yeah, that feels

00:55:56.809 --> 00:55:56.989
it.

00:55:56.989 --> 00:55:57.829
But you won't sweat, huh?

00:55:58.309 --> 00:55:59.028
I might sweat.

00:55:59.929 --> 00:56:02.449
We'll see when the, when the final turns come around.

00:56:02.539 --> 00:56:02.989
Oh, you just see

00:56:02.989 --> 00:56:03.108
me

00:56:03.108 --> 00:56:04.668
crying, it'll be fine.

00:56:04.668 --> 00:56:08.509
So this is, uh, the, the random question grab bag.

00:56:08.778 --> 00:56:13.789
Um, because I only put out seven questions to you guys, but we got eight sauces.

00:56:13.998 --> 00:56:14.358
I like it.

00:56:14.358 --> 00:56:14.929
Uh, last time.

00:56:14.929 --> 00:56:18.498
So we do this with our local experience guests.

00:56:18.498 --> 00:56:19.668
They answer all three.

00:56:19.849 --> 00:56:20.119
Okay?

00:56:20.268 --> 00:56:25.128
But I'm just gonna ask you all three questions and have you do a, a question, uh, answer to one of them.

00:56:25.128 --> 00:56:25.489
Pick one.

00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:25.909
Yep.

00:56:27.048 --> 00:56:28.278
The hardest one if you want to.

00:56:32.418 --> 00:56:36.994
I got 2 25 and 28,

00:56:36.994 --> 00:56:40.099
2 25, 28 will go in numerical order.

00:56:40.579 --> 00:56:44.719
One of the most popular, uh, questions to be asked actually is number.

00:56:45.304 --> 00:56:46.023
I can take those.

00:56:46.233 --> 00:56:46.474
Okay.

00:56:46.713 --> 00:56:47.793
2 25, 28.

00:56:48.063 --> 00:56:48.423
Got em.

00:56:49.773 --> 00:57:00.304
Number two, would you rather fight one horse size duck or 100 ducks size horses?

00:57:02.643 --> 00:57:03.963
Uh, a hundred.

00:57:04.443 --> 00:57:05.764
No, one horse-sized duck.

00:57:05.824 --> 00:57:06.123
Really?

00:57:06.273 --> 00:57:06.543
Yeah.

00:57:06.844 --> 00:57:07.114
Okay.

00:57:07.864 --> 00:57:11.043
I think if I can get around them, do a choke hold on that one, that'd be fine.

00:57:11.074 --> 00:57:12.003
But those a hundred,

00:57:12.963 --> 00:57:14.164
I'm kind of in the same place.

00:57:14.583 --> 00:57:15.543
They could just pile on.

00:57:15.543 --> 00:57:15.724
I don't

00:57:15.724 --> 00:57:15.873
know.

00:57:15.873 --> 00:57:16.014
I don't know.

00:57:16.014 --> 00:57:16.684
I go back and forth.

00:57:16.744 --> 00:57:17.074
I can't.

00:57:17.284 --> 00:57:17.463
Yeah.

00:57:17.974 --> 00:57:21.423
Um, and you don't have to answer every question, but you get extra points if you do so.

00:57:21.423 --> 00:57:21.934
Oh, awesome.

00:57:21.994 --> 00:57:22.208
I like points.

00:57:23.298 --> 00:57:24.739
Um, 25.

00:57:25.668 --> 00:57:31.039
What's one thing on your bucket list that you're determined to accomplish besides becoming mayor of Fort Collins?

00:57:31.759 --> 00:57:36.079
Um, one thing I've always had a dream to do is jump in and out of a perfectly good airplane.

00:57:36.768 --> 00:57:37.594
Oh, I like it.

00:57:37.614 --> 00:57:37.833
So

00:57:38.208 --> 00:57:41.599
I have to get to a certain way and, um, I'm on the process to do so.

00:57:41.628 --> 00:57:41.958
Okay.

00:57:42.018 --> 00:57:45.018
If I do get to, uh, the weight, then you're probably like

00:57:45.018 --> 00:57:45.679
halfway there.

00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:48.619
After losing 30 pounds on this campaign tour, so far I'm getting pretty

00:57:48.619 --> 00:57:49.009
close.

00:57:49.579 --> 00:57:51.199
I got another about 30 pounds to go.

00:57:51.259 --> 00:57:51.559
Nice.

00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:53.389
And then I will jump out of a perfectly good airplane.

00:57:53.568 --> 00:57:54.048
I like it.

00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:55.068
That's on my bucket list.

00:57:55.668 --> 00:57:59.028
Hopefully a shoot opens a celebration of becoming mayor.

00:57:59.028 --> 00:58:00.228
Perhaps you're like,

00:58:00.228 --> 00:58:01.188
yay, you voted for me.

00:58:01.188 --> 00:58:01.878
I'm making good decisions.

00:58:03.054 --> 00:58:06.199
And do you have to get, do you have enough life insurance now?

00:58:07.188 --> 00:58:09.393
Uh, no, but that's a good, I should probably it first.

00:58:09.393 --> 00:58:09.514
You

00:58:09.514 --> 00:58:09.614
should do it.

00:58:09.614 --> 00:58:09.679
Yeah.

00:58:09.739 --> 00:58:12.289
Because they like charge you more after you do that kind of shit.

00:58:12.318 --> 00:58:13.188
Probably a little bit.

00:58:13.398 --> 00:58:14.838
They're like, it's on the questionnaire.

00:58:14.869 --> 00:58:19.728
I remember years ago I was planning to get back into motorcycling, but I hadn't yet.

00:58:19.759 --> 00:58:19.789
Okay.

00:58:19.789 --> 00:58:21.918
I was like, I should probably buy some life insurance now.

00:58:21.918 --> 00:58:22.278
Smart.

00:58:23.434 --> 00:58:23.793
Anyway.

00:58:24.273 --> 00:58:27.903
Number 28, what's your proudest achievement in business?

00:58:30.333 --> 00:58:38.224
You know, I think, um, pre pandemic, I, this, uh, started a not-for-profit called the Draft Solutions.

00:58:39.184 --> 00:58:39.423
Okay.

00:58:39.423 --> 00:58:44.673
And we would hold quarterly events to promote other non-profits.

00:58:45.273 --> 00:58:45.483
Okay.

00:58:45.693 --> 00:58:48.934
And, um, we, you're suffering a little bit from this though, aren't you?

00:58:48.934 --> 00:58:49.344
I'm I Amm.

00:58:50.014 --> 00:58:50.164
Me too.

00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.684
It, it hitting me a little bit more than I thought I would.

00:58:52.954 --> 00:58:53.463
So, me too.

00:58:53.673 --> 00:58:56.673
Um, I'm getting that drunk punch, uh Right.

00:58:56.673 --> 00:58:57.634
I'm kind of stupid right now.

00:58:59.014 --> 00:59:11.884
But, so the job solutions was really fun where we, um, I was able to build it from just, we would have five or six people come to a cover events, uh, and we'd hold up breweries and raise money, awareness and volunteerism for other nonprofits.

00:59:11.943 --> 00:59:12.123
Hmm.

00:59:12.393 --> 00:59:21.574
And pre pandemic, right before the pandemic stopped and we couldn't meet, uh, we got to where we were having 60, 70 people come to the breweries and ums.

00:59:23.253 --> 00:59:27.934
Raise, you know, not thousands, but actually sometimes thousands of dollars for these nonprofits.

00:59:27.994 --> 00:59:28.713
Oh, that's so cool.

00:59:28.804 --> 00:59:32.253
Uh, and it was really fun to see the organic growth of it.

00:59:32.344 --> 00:59:32.583
Yeah.

00:59:32.588 --> 00:59:33.724
Um, and it's called, what?

00:59:33.873 --> 00:59:35.074
It's called the Draft solution.

00:59:35.074 --> 00:59:35.673
Draft Solution.

00:59:35.673 --> 00:59:40.414
So you just kind of go to different breweries, Uhhuh invite people to come learn about the podcast of the month club.

00:59:40.503 --> 00:59:40.833
Yeah.

00:59:40.833 --> 00:59:41.284
Kind of.

00:59:41.284 --> 00:59:43.128
And so we would be like, uh, well not

00:59:43.134 --> 00:59:44.824
the podcast, but the non-profit of the month Yeah.

00:59:44.824 --> 00:59:45.423
Is what I meant.

00:59:45.514 --> 00:59:47.344
Buy in, uh, crossroads Safe House.

00:59:47.403 --> 00:59:47.494
Sure.

00:59:47.494 --> 00:59:51.333
And we would do a, the breweries would do a dollar,$2 a beer.

00:59:51.543 --> 00:59:51.724
Yeah.

00:59:51.753 --> 00:59:54.034
Uh, and people come drink and learn about the things.

00:59:54.034 --> 00:59:58.204
And then also we saw a big increase in volunteerism Yeah.

00:59:58.264 --> 00:59:59.824
For these, uh, non-profits.

01:00:00.094 --> 01:00:03.184
So not only do they get money, but they got volunteers, which at some point Yeah.

01:00:03.184 --> 01:00:03.483
It's more

01:00:03.483 --> 01:00:03.693
with

01:00:03.693 --> 01:00:03.844
it.

01:00:04.023 --> 01:00:06.693
Do you mind if somebody else restarts that after?

01:00:06.724 --> 01:00:07.324
Not at all.

01:00:07.384 --> 01:00:08.853
Um, I, I think it's

01:00:08.853 --> 01:00:13.204
a, and it seems like a good idea, like useful for everybody, like the breweries win.

01:00:13.264 --> 01:00:13.384
Yeah.

01:00:13.773 --> 01:00:14.824
I, and look at think Tank.

01:00:14.824 --> 01:00:18.454
We, we say, uh, we look for the win-win, win-win.

01:00:19.114 --> 01:00:21.423
But we'll settle for the win, win win if necessary.

01:00:21.423 --> 01:00:26.733
And it, to me, it seems like a great win for the nonprofits, for people, for the community, for the brewery.

01:00:26.853 --> 01:00:29.884
And it was super low hanging fruit when it comes to like organizing.

01:00:30.034 --> 01:00:30.813
Um, okay.

01:00:30.813 --> 01:00:34.744
I try, I, at one point I was doing it monthly and monthly just got too hard.

01:00:34.804 --> 01:00:35.134
Yeah.

01:00:35.434 --> 01:00:39.184
Uh, but doing it quarterly advertising minimum,

01:00:39.213 --> 01:00:46.773
allow traction to build, put posters in posters, the brewery posters that's coming to, but also the next two breweries and the last two breweries.

01:00:46.773 --> 01:00:48.514
'cause they're happy to hang posters for you.

01:00:48.603 --> 01:00:52.833
And it, you know, the brewery scene here is they will promote other events and so Totally.

01:00:52.833 --> 01:00:59.434
So that was a really fun, like, business wise, like even like my coffee company, even though I just closed it, I closed it po on a positive note.

01:00:59.463 --> 01:01:02.969
I wasn't losing money, I just, the commodity price and it just didn't make sense.

01:01:02.969 --> 01:01:03.128
Yeah.

01:01:03.128 --> 01:01:03.934
I didn't wanna lose money.

01:01:04.023 --> 01:01:04.233
Yeah.

01:01:04.623 --> 01:01:05.134
A bunch of money.

01:01:05.134 --> 01:01:05.434
But

01:01:06.304 --> 01:01:14.554
I think if the pandemic didn't happen and we weren't shut down for 18 months, two years and then I started the coffee business and everything just got, uh, kind of yeah.

01:01:14.554 --> 01:01:15.724
Change in life-wise.

01:01:16.173 --> 01:01:17.193
Uh, I think it's a great.

01:01:17.478 --> 01:01:23.119
And I got the, uh, a, like the logos and Yeah.

01:01:23.179 --> 01:01:26.838
Jeff Solutions kind of like a double positive, like draft for beer solution Sure.

01:01:26.838 --> 01:01:28.068
Is a beer.

01:01:28.489 --> 01:01:29.679
And find solutions and solutions.

01:01:29.688 --> 01:01:29.869
Yeah.

01:01:29.989 --> 01:01:30.289
Huh.

01:01:30.438 --> 01:01:30.978
Yeah, it was really well.

01:01:30.978 --> 01:01:31.728
And solutions.

01:01:31.728 --> 01:01:36.048
So they were actually meeting together as nonprofit leaders too, or what's the solutions part?

01:01:36.108 --> 01:01:36.949
So a lot of the time,

01:01:36.949 --> 01:01:39.289
so the solution was kinda just a double take on beer.

01:01:39.378 --> 01:01:39.438
Okay.

01:01:39.438 --> 01:01:39.918
Like draft.

01:01:39.918 --> 01:01:43.338
And then So beer is a solution, is a chemical solution.

01:01:43.429 --> 01:01:45.739
That's a, oh, I guess it is.

01:01:45.858 --> 01:01:51.048
I was thinking about, uh, a old Homer Simpson quote, um, ah, beer.

01:01:51.588 --> 01:01:55.789
The cause of, and solution to all of life's little problems,

01:01:56.449 --> 01:02:01.099
you know, but the, we would have the non-profit, uh, executive directors.

01:02:01.128 --> 01:02:01.309
Yeah.

01:02:01.309 --> 01:02:01.489
Yeah.

01:02:01.489 --> 01:02:02.239
And staff coming back.

01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:03.168
Well, that's what I was kind of thinking

01:02:03.168 --> 01:02:09.108
is maybe this should be, if you would organize it local, think tank could potentially be a part of it.

01:02:09.139 --> 01:02:12.228
And we could actually do like a freethink.

01:02:12.994 --> 01:02:13.534
Session.

01:02:13.534 --> 01:02:13.744
Yeah.

01:02:14.193 --> 01:02:15.364
With nonprofit leaders.

01:02:15.393 --> 01:02:22.954
'cause it's, I've always kind of been open to nonprofit leaders being in a think tank chapter, but they never have any money.

01:02:22.954 --> 01:02:23.403
Right.

01:02:23.463 --> 01:02:23.523
Yeah.

01:02:23.523 --> 01:02:24.034
And stuff.

01:02:24.034 --> 01:02:32.643
But if, if you could do something as a, as a regular service and allow them to connect and process together what's going on in their industry, it might be useful.

01:02:32.764 --> 01:02:34.384
So, and I think it's, it will work.

01:02:34.384 --> 01:02:35.253
Ping me after this.

01:02:35.253 --> 01:02:35.704
I will.

01:02:35.704 --> 01:02:36.244
A hundred percent.

01:02:36.244 --> 01:02:41.373
Because I think we can actually do see that increase in that connective tissue Right.

01:02:41.378 --> 01:02:41.938
Between the two.

01:02:41.938 --> 01:02:42.123
Well, and if you're

01:02:42.123 --> 01:02:43.773
getting them new volunteers Yeah.

01:02:43.773 --> 01:02:44.373
Potentially.

01:02:44.373 --> 01:02:45.753
Or all these other things.

01:02:45.753 --> 01:02:54.034
And just, unfortunately, nonprofits are some of the least abundance minded people because they're always running short of budget.

01:02:54.123 --> 01:02:54.634
Yes.

01:02:54.693 --> 01:02:55.893
You know, and so.

01:02:56.853 --> 01:03:02.134
It's hard for them sometimes to share with each other about, oh, this big donor, Ralph.

01:03:02.164 --> 01:03:02.434
Yeah.

01:03:02.494 --> 01:03:03.724
Oh, which big donor, Ralph.

01:03:03.963 --> 01:03:04.143
Yeah.

01:03:04.204 --> 01:03:04.773
Um, what's his

01:03:04.773 --> 01:03:06.128
number exactly?

01:03:06.469 --> 01:03:07.969
Can, can, can I call Ralph?

01:03:08.344 --> 01:03:08.463
Can I?

01:03:09.844 --> 01:03:12.724
But if you get the right environment of trust Yeah.

01:03:12.724 --> 01:03:14.673
Going on, you can, you can navigate that.

01:03:15.304 --> 01:03:18.768
You know, it's a great deal of respect between the nonprofits and Totally.

01:03:18.844 --> 01:03:19.833
And I a hundred percent.

01:03:19.983 --> 01:03:21.724
And just seeing that, how much work?

01:03:21.724 --> 01:03:22.143
Ton of respect,

01:03:22.233 --> 01:03:23.014
but a little bit of fear.

01:03:23.014 --> 01:03:23.974
More fear than there should be.

01:03:23.974 --> 01:03:24.483
A hundred percent.

01:03:24.603 --> 01:03:26.583
Well, because it, it's not ue right

01:03:26.583 --> 01:03:27.003
now.

01:03:27.003 --> 01:03:27.994
Their fundings are being cut.

01:03:28.054 --> 01:03:28.563
That's right.

01:03:28.568 --> 01:03:28.688
Right.

01:03:29.103 --> 01:03:29.403
Totally.

01:03:30.123 --> 01:03:38.704
And they probably deserved it'cause there was probably too much non-local funding going on in the nonprofit community here, because that means it's not local control anymore.

01:03:39.123 --> 01:03:41.733
Well, somebody's got'em doing stuff, you know.

01:03:41.733 --> 01:03:46.713
Well, it's not just that like, uh, they take, you know, there's books of like grants you have to apply for sure.

01:03:47.134 --> 01:03:51.043
But even I'm like, my position, um, I can't really talk about, um, just.

01:03:51.934 --> 01:03:52.804
Conflict of interests.

01:03:52.833 --> 01:03:53.134
Okay.

01:03:53.224 --> 01:03:54.724
Uh, but I'm grant funded.

01:03:54.963 --> 01:03:55.233
Okay.

01:03:55.233 --> 01:03:55.923
At the federal level.

01:03:55.954 --> 01:03:56.373
Yeah.

01:03:56.373 --> 01:03:56.384
Yeah.

01:03:56.434 --> 01:03:58.954
So, and that's on shake ground.

01:03:58.958 --> 01:03:59.168
Right.

01:03:59.173 --> 01:03:59.463
Right.

01:03:59.463 --> 01:03:59.704
I don't

01:03:59.704 --> 01:04:00.094
doubt it.

01:04:00.333 --> 01:04:04.833
And so, but that's, that's not a place to build a foundation.

01:04:04.864 --> 01:04:05.313
No.

01:04:05.344 --> 01:04:17.253
And so like I hear, like both of my brother-in-laws were government employees that were liable to being cut or whatever by trims to the different things and stuff.

01:04:17.793 --> 01:04:20.253
And that's it is what it is.

01:04:20.284 --> 01:04:20.344
Yeah.

01:04:21.094 --> 01:04:26.704
But when a necessary position of a local sheriff's department.

01:04:27.108 --> 01:04:33.378
Is grant funded to the point where it would be bad for the community if it went away, then the federal government has no business being there.

01:04:33.498 --> 01:04:33.768
No.

01:04:34.338 --> 01:04:37.248
Um, my opinion, we, and we'll, like probably local funding is key.

01:04:37.248 --> 01:04:40.489
And fortunately we have amazing donors here locally.

01:04:40.608 --> 01:04:40.849
Yeah.

01:04:40.998 --> 01:04:42.228
And it's all the small businesses.

01:04:42.228 --> 01:04:43.668
And I've talked about this in my campaign.

01:04:43.909 --> 01:04:44.778
That's why it's so crucial.

01:04:44.778 --> 01:04:46.489
We keep the small business community healthy

01:04:46.518 --> 01:04:53.119
and Hydro Busch may give 5,000 for a sponsorship, but New Belgium will give 5,000 or 10,000 or to four different

01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:53.989
organizations, four different

01:04:53.989 --> 01:04:54.378
organizations.

01:04:54.469 --> 01:04:57.108
Or Maxine may not be able to give 5,000, but they'll give beer.

01:04:57.168 --> 01:04:57.318
Right.

01:04:57.318 --> 01:04:59.389
They'll give advertising and they'll give Oh yeah.

01:04:59.449 --> 01:05:00.619
Or, or yeah.

01:05:00.619 --> 01:05:01.039
Or

01:05:01.759 --> 01:05:04.518
uh, uh, set pan you mentioned earlier.

01:05:04.523 --> 01:05:04.563
Yeah.

01:05:04.878 --> 01:05:06.469
Like those guys give beer to everybody.

01:05:06.498 --> 01:05:06.708
Yeah.

01:05:06.978 --> 01:05:09.918
They don't donate much money to anybody, but they give beer to everybody

01:05:09.949 --> 01:05:10.668
and so they do.

01:05:10.668 --> 01:05:14.358
And that's what Tim and Carol, sorry guys, Tim and Carol are.

01:05:15.034 --> 01:05:15.753
Just sweethearts.

01:05:15.784 --> 01:05:16.623
They totally are.

01:05:17.284 --> 01:05:18.664
Um, we need to move on.

01:05:18.753 --> 01:05:18.934
Yep.

01:05:19.384 --> 01:05:20.824
It's Sauce seven.

01:05:21.213 --> 01:05:23.164
This one is the Slade's Revenge.

01:05:23.193 --> 01:05:23.824
Yes.

01:05:24.304 --> 01:05:25.114
You've had it before.

01:05:25.264 --> 01:05:26.373
Uh, I have.

01:05:27.153 --> 01:05:27.634
It's hot.

01:05:27.994 --> 01:05:28.503
Yeah, I know.

01:05:28.563 --> 01:05:29.193
Yeah, I know.

01:05:29.193 --> 01:05:30.003
I've had it before too.

01:05:31.653 --> 01:05:34.384
And so next week you have two of these back to back, right?

01:05:34.384 --> 01:05:34.563
It's

01:05:34.563 --> 01:05:34.893
true.

01:05:34.983 --> 01:05:35.313
Okay.

01:05:35.313 --> 01:05:36.813
So how's you, how are you gonna do that?

01:05:36.844 --> 01:05:38.463
I don't know what I'm gonna do, honestly.

01:05:38.554 --> 01:05:40.173
Like, it's gonna be stupid.

01:05:40.534 --> 01:05:44.943
Um, I gotta stop dipping them so deep.

01:05:44.943 --> 01:05:46.173
I didn't get outta there.

01:05:48.668 --> 01:05:51.543
You know, problem with this one is, it's a lot milder up front.

01:05:51.574 --> 01:05:52.023
Mm-hmm.

01:05:54.273 --> 01:05:54.454
Yeah.

01:05:55.384 --> 01:05:56.434
It's a pussycat on the kiss.

01:05:56.438 --> 01:05:56.688
Uhhuh.

01:05:58.773 --> 01:05:59.884
I can't believe I'm doing it.

01:05:59.884 --> 01:05:59.974
It's,

01:06:00.844 --> 01:06:01.653
it's so easy.

01:06:01.653 --> 01:06:02.764
You're like, oh, I'll go in for another one.

01:06:02.768 --> 01:06:02.929
Mm-hmm.

01:06:03.009 --> 01:06:03.423
And it's easy.

01:06:03.423 --> 01:06:04.023
And then you're like, mm-hmm.

01:06:04.773 --> 01:06:06.003
No, that was a mistake.

01:06:06.034 --> 01:06:06.244
Yeah.

01:06:06.244 --> 01:06:06.543
Wait, you.

01:06:09.858 --> 01:06:11.628
Those two are like kissing cousins a little bit.

01:06:11.898 --> 01:06:12.259
They are.

01:06:12.259 --> 01:06:16.159
And I think this one's actually a little bit easier than the two, uh, 17.

01:06:16.579 --> 01:06:17.389
Two 17, I think.

01:06:17.478 --> 01:06:17.719
Yeah.

01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:20.329
Um, because I think the two 17 is a thicker

01:06:20.628 --> 01:06:20.869
Yep.

01:06:21.378 --> 01:06:23.478
And it clings on the, it clings on, yep.

01:06:23.509 --> 01:06:27.048
Well, this is a little bit, um, more, um, less viscous.

01:06:27.139 --> 01:06:27.378
Yep.

01:06:27.384 --> 01:06:27.393
Yep.

01:06:27.619 --> 01:06:29.539
And it can, it goes down a lot easier.

01:06:29.568 --> 01:06:29.958
Yeah.

01:06:30.139 --> 01:06:31.068
I would say that's true.

01:06:31.159 --> 01:06:32.748
We almost switch, switch the order.

01:06:32.809 --> 01:06:33.048
Yeah.

01:06:33.054 --> 01:06:35.059
This one's, I mean, I'm, I'm dripping.

01:06:35.509 --> 01:06:36.619
Oh, I, and I'm feeling it.

01:06:36.619 --> 01:06:37.429
I, I'm sweaty now.

01:06:37.429 --> 01:06:37.998
I believe too.

01:06:38.179 --> 01:06:38.208
A

01:06:38.208 --> 01:06:38.568
little bit.

01:06:38.568 --> 01:06:40.099
Your cheeks are just a little bit.

01:06:40.099 --> 01:06:40.699
Got a glow.

01:06:40.728 --> 01:06:42.018
Just a rosy, rosy

01:06:42.018 --> 01:06:42.349
glow.

01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:46.789
So, uh, the community hot topic is our seventh question.

01:06:47.268 --> 01:06:48.619
Only one more to go after this.

01:06:48.619 --> 01:06:48.798
Perfect.

01:06:48.798 --> 01:06:49.489
The last dab.

01:06:50.509 --> 01:06:57.079
How can the city of Fort Collins maintain financial strength in light of declining sales tax collection trends?

01:06:57.829 --> 01:07:00.949
What mix of cost cutting and revenue enhancement strategies?

01:07:01.623 --> 01:07:04.954
Do you envision as being the most important to maintain fiscal health?

01:07:05.103 --> 01:07:17.164
So I've talked about this a couple times, uh, on the campaign is, uh, so Citi used American Rescue plan funding from the pandemic to fund some long-term positions and departments, uh, programs.

01:07:18.184 --> 01:07:22.474
Why, um, just'cause they, it fit into the narrative at that point.

01:07:23.344 --> 01:07:23.434
Yes.

01:07:23.434 --> 01:07:28.923
And I don't know if it wasn't foresight or they thought that there would always be a building revenue stream.

01:07:29.344 --> 01:07:33.423
Um, and so, but there's not, so we need to look at any program.

01:07:33.483 --> 01:07:42.664
If it's American Rescue Plan funding or any other funding mechanism that is short term funded, meaning there's a sunset to it, we need to look at those programs.

01:07:42.664 --> 01:07:50.373
And if they're not self-sustainable or achieving the necessary community good at a large scale, they need to be changed, reduced.

01:07:50.373 --> 01:07:51.934
Is that like, or elimination that a big number of people?

01:07:52.594 --> 01:07:54.753
Uh, I, I don't know if it has actually that many.

01:07:55.278 --> 01:07:56.778
Staff members, um, okay.

01:07:56.778 --> 01:07:58.878
It could be in the dozen or okay.

01:07:58.969 --> 01:08:00.889
Or a dozen, but it's, that's still a lot

01:08:00.889 --> 01:08:02.688
of money at a hundred grand per, you know?

01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:03.259
Correct.

01:08:03.318 --> 01:08:10.668
And, and I don't like if we can repurpose some of those individuals to other open positions so we don't have to hire new and we can maintain, we don't have to.

01:08:10.668 --> 01:08:10.789
Right.

01:08:10.909 --> 01:08:11.329
If they're good

01:08:11.329 --> 01:08:12.739
employees, we don't have to coefficient.

01:08:12.739 --> 01:08:12.949
That's fine.

01:08:12.949 --> 01:08:13.369
There's ways

01:08:13.373 --> 01:08:14.599
to, there's ways that we can,

01:08:14.838 --> 01:08:16.969
so that's your first step almost, is like, yeah, do

01:08:16.969 --> 01:08:17.479
an audit.

01:08:17.509 --> 01:08:22.069
If your job was funded by short term stuff, sorry.

01:08:22.069 --> 01:08:24.288
But that short term stuff is gone.

01:08:24.288 --> 01:08:24.618
We gotta

01:08:24.618 --> 01:08:32.418
look at way other ways to either fund it now, if it's was funded by short term funding, but it's doing a great deal of community good.

01:08:32.868 --> 01:08:36.948
Where you can justify it through either social benefit mechanisms.

01:08:37.099 --> 01:08:37.219
Okay.

01:08:37.219 --> 01:08:38.088
But the city's broke.

01:08:38.208 --> 01:08:38.359
Yeah.

01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:40.639
Like, so let's, let's kind of zoom in on that.

01:08:40.639 --> 01:08:44.958
Like we're gonna gonna be all masey pansy about who gets to keep their job, who not correct.

01:08:45.404 --> 01:08:48.529
So, so like, we need to spend less money and make more money.

01:08:48.798 --> 01:08:53.748
And you know, one of the best thing that Darren thought about doing and just has gone away is a stop doing list.

01:08:54.529 --> 01:08:55.038
Oh, yeah.

01:08:55.069 --> 01:09:00.288
You know, Darren, before he left as city manager, he, he, he's developed a stop doing list, right.

01:09:00.738 --> 01:09:02.958
Where if it's not working, stop doing it.

01:09:03.349 --> 01:09:10.939
You know, one of the best things that, um, went away with that is the median, the, the four, uh, the medians.

01:09:11.238 --> 01:09:11.448
Yeah.

01:09:11.448 --> 01:09:15.859
At one point was costing$3 million of media, the upkeep with all the foliage and the trees.

01:09:16.038 --> 01:09:16.399
Okay.

01:09:16.429 --> 01:09:21.439
So we said, oh, if we put some nice iron railing in and do decorat design, there's no maintenance.

01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:22.338
We don't have to upkeep it.

01:09:23.328 --> 01:09:25.069
Let's continue to look at things like that.

01:09:25.099 --> 01:09:25.189
Yeah.

01:09:25.189 --> 01:09:26.988
Things that we don't have to continue to upkeep.

01:09:27.019 --> 01:09:27.259
Yeah.

01:09:27.618 --> 01:09:33.828
Uh, and so we need to do an audit to figure out where we're spending, we're spending too much money on pet projects.

01:09:33.828 --> 01:09:33.979
How much

01:09:33.979 --> 01:09:34.849
should we spend on the audit?

01:09:35.899 --> 01:09:39.498
Um, I mean, unfortunately any audit's gonna cost six figures.

01:09:39.503 --> 01:09:39.554
Yeah.

01:09:39.649 --> 01:09:39.769
Yeah.

01:09:39.769 --> 01:09:41.809
It's just, it's, it's, it's part of it.

01:09:41.958 --> 01:09:42.198
Yeah.

01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:51.408
Um, it's almost like doing, if you're in a private business, if I wanted to go up to the next stage on the roast coffee roasting business and to make more money.

01:09:52.024 --> 01:09:53.703
I would have to invest in a new roaster.

01:09:53.764 --> 01:09:58.054
So there is money, sunken money into figuring out where to cut money, unfortunately.

01:09:58.654 --> 01:10:01.894
Um, but we need to start because we're our budget's 900 and.

01:10:02.538 --> 01:10:03.408
38 million.

01:10:03.918 --> 01:10:04.158
Okay.

01:10:04.158 --> 01:10:06.529
10 years ago was 540 million.

01:10:06.649 --> 01:10:07.038
Wow.

01:10:07.038 --> 01:10:07.234
Five 50.

01:10:07.309 --> 01:10:08.689
So we're almost double Right.

01:10:08.689 --> 01:10:09.469
In 10 years.

01:10:09.529 --> 01:10:09.889
Right.

01:10:09.889 --> 01:10:13.519
And our population's only increased by 6.7% or 7.2%.

01:10:13.519 --> 01:10:14.088
Right.

01:10:14.149 --> 01:10:14.838
Wow.

01:10:14.838 --> 01:10:16.338
So we're asking our citizens well, and

01:10:16.338 --> 01:10:19.819
inflation supposedly has been two to 5% during that time

01:10:19.998 --> 01:10:20.269
mostly.

01:10:20.389 --> 01:10:24.139
And so we can't keep asking our citizens to keep paying more on taxes.

01:10:24.229 --> 01:10:24.288
No.

01:10:24.618 --> 01:10:40.248
So, uh, another project that I would like to see the city was gungho and the current, um, council was gungho on rental license insurers and registration, but they miscalculated the cost of that by$8 million based on my proforma.

01:10:40.248 --> 01:10:40.639
I did.

01:10:40.698 --> 01:10:41.269
What's that now?

01:10:41.509 --> 01:10:45.229
So they thought they could do a rental, re, or licensure program, like short

01:10:45.229 --> 01:10:46.069
term rentals and stuff?

01:10:46.069 --> 01:10:46.279
No,

01:10:46.279 --> 01:10:48.708
like every rental in Fort Collins had be licensed.

01:10:48.918 --> 01:10:49.469
Oh, right, right, right.

01:10:49.548 --> 01:10:54.078
They could, they thought they could do an inspection on each of those rentals for$49 an inspection,

01:10:55.639 --> 01:10:56.118
spending 10

01:10:56.149 --> 01:10:57.439
years as a realtor.

01:10:57.439 --> 01:10:58.458
As a realtor of the year.

01:10:58.458 --> 01:10:58.729
Right.

01:10:58.729 --> 01:10:59.088
Yeah.

01:10:59.088 --> 01:10:59.269
That.

01:11:00.078 --> 01:11:09.198
And I, so I went through and I reached out to other cities that had licensure programs and they're all spending three to 4 million or three, three to 400 per inspection.

01:11:09.259 --> 01:11:09.588
Right.

01:11:09.889 --> 01:11:12.649
Plus they're all running a deficit of millions of dollars.

01:11:12.708 --> 01:11:12.918
Right.

01:11:12.918 --> 01:11:13.548
On the program.

01:11:13.578 --> 01:11:13.969
So even

01:11:13.969 --> 01:11:14.748
having that,

01:11:14.809 --> 01:11:15.139
yeah.

01:11:15.198 --> 01:11:17.748
And when I kept asking, well, what's the benefit?

01:11:17.809 --> 01:11:19.038
They're like, let's health and safety.

01:11:19.819 --> 01:11:20.958
No, that's not as,

01:11:20.958 --> 01:11:22.309
but the market will figure that out.

01:11:22.338 --> 01:11:22.519
Yeah.

01:11:22.578 --> 01:11:27.498
Like for the most part, if there's a slumlord, the market will be like, Hey, this guy's a slum Lord.

01:11:27.498 --> 01:11:27.559
So

01:11:27.588 --> 01:11:29.389
now we have registration that's,

01:11:29.389 --> 01:11:35.328
so how many staff in Fort Collins are associated with rental registration Three program?

01:11:36.139 --> 01:11:37.488
3.25 I think.

01:11:37.548 --> 01:11:38.899
Just for the inspections?

01:11:39.078 --> 01:11:41.298
Yeah, just for the, the whole program right now.

01:11:41.389 --> 01:11:41.988
Oh, that's the whole program.

01:11:41.988 --> 01:11:43.908
So I was able to stop the licensure program.

01:11:43.908 --> 01:11:45.168
Just Okay.

01:11:45.168 --> 01:11:51.109
I gave, I gave, whenever I was on that task force, I was able to get'em to not do the license, just a registration.

01:11:52.519 --> 01:11:54.378
But that program's not self sustainable.

01:11:54.529 --> 01:11:54.859
Right.

01:11:55.368 --> 01:11:56.059
It's not paying for it.

01:11:56.059 --> 01:11:56.359
It's hard to

01:11:56.359 --> 01:11:57.859
say if the benefit's even there.

01:11:57.889 --> 01:11:58.189
Yeah.

01:11:58.219 --> 01:11:58.399
Right.

01:11:58.399 --> 01:11:58.819
We might.

01:11:59.238 --> 01:12:04.038
Pay for way more cost than the benefit to the community of Fort Collins is

01:12:04.069 --> 01:12:04.488
correct.

01:12:04.939 --> 01:12:14.149
Uh, so they have all these policies and laws and regulations that's been passed that cost money to enforce but doesn't do anything.

01:12:14.389 --> 01:12:14.479
Right.

01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:17.509
The fire pit ban in people's backyards where you can't have a fire pit.

01:12:17.509 --> 01:12:17.689
Yeah.

01:12:17.689 --> 01:12:17.698
Yeah.

01:12:18.019 --> 01:12:20.238
That's another unenforceable

01:12:20.389 --> 01:12:21.019
after 10.

01:12:21.078 --> 01:12:22.519
Or you can't do it more at all Yeah.

01:12:22.519 --> 01:12:23.298
After 10.

01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:23.479
Right.

01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:28.128
And then it had to be 15 feet from a, a fence and if your short term rentals not at all.

01:12:28.128 --> 01:12:29.238
And all these regulations.

01:12:29.389 --> 01:12:29.604
Right, right.

01:12:29.838 --> 01:12:33.889
And even the police said, yeah, we're not gonna enforce that, um, because it's unenforceable.

01:12:34.128 --> 01:12:36.198
Um, and they can't.

01:12:36.198 --> 01:12:39.048
So they, we have programs and things that just.

01:12:39.378 --> 01:12:40.069
They don't work.

01:12:40.099 --> 01:12:40.458
Right.

01:12:41.054 --> 01:12:42.769
Also, we need to stop.

01:12:42.798 --> 01:12:46.849
Uh, I wanna see us completely get rid of the two year.

01:12:46.849 --> 01:12:51.198
I want to still stick on a biannual budget, but get rid of the budget for outcomes.

01:12:51.649 --> 01:12:54.859
We spend millions of dollars on the budget for outcome process.

01:12:55.399 --> 01:12:57.439
It takes so long to develop

01:12:57.469 --> 01:13:01.548
quota to like try to score how the outcomes were of all these various spending things.

01:13:01.548 --> 01:13:01.609
So

01:13:01.668 --> 01:13:04.128
our staff at the city designate, it's like an exercise

01:13:04.128 --> 01:13:04.819
and exercise.

01:13:04.849 --> 01:13:05.118
Yeah.

01:13:05.328 --> 01:13:14.479
They do amazing job building these plans, but then they spend the next year putting together these buzzer proposals that takes'em six months and hundreds, if not thousands of man hours.

01:13:14.509 --> 01:13:14.929
Sure.

01:13:15.168 --> 01:13:21.798
That's, if we cut that and making a more simplified two year budget cycle, like 95% of other cities.

01:13:21.798 --> 01:13:21.948
But we

01:13:21.948 --> 01:13:23.689
still wanna track outcomes though, right?

01:13:23.689 --> 01:13:26.543
We do, but not on the front end of making,

01:13:26.748 --> 01:13:29.509
not on the front end and not in the way that.

01:13:30.048 --> 01:13:37.488
We're, we're spending, we're probably spending, I, I'm estimating tens of thousands of hours that's wasted in employee time.

01:13:37.493 --> 01:13:37.524
That's

01:13:37.524 --> 01:13:37.604
a lot.

01:13:37.604 --> 01:13:37.724
Wow.

01:13:37.788 --> 01:13:37.939
That's

01:13:37.939 --> 01:13:41.569
ton at, let's say 30 bucks an hour on average, 40 bucks an hour on average,

01:13:42.229 --> 01:13:44.538
whatever that is a we're about or 5 million millions of dollars.

01:13:44.543 --> 01:13:44.724
Yeah.

01:13:44.724 --> 01:13:44.884
Yeah.

01:13:44.889 --> 01:13:45.198
Yeah.

01:13:45.198 --> 01:13:45.288
And

01:13:45.288 --> 01:13:48.979
then on the revenue side, we need to get businesses to stay here.

01:13:49.729 --> 01:13:50.088
Right.

01:13:50.179 --> 01:13:51.708
We need to track businesses.

01:13:51.708 --> 01:13:55.429
We can't let another Sentara leave and go down 11.

01:13:55.488 --> 01:13:58.338
We can't let Walmart and another Costco and we

01:13:58.338 --> 01:14:00.469
can't let Old Town suffer.

01:14:00.498 --> 01:14:00.769
No.

01:14:01.158 --> 01:14:05.599
If Old Town would turn city of Fort Collins would be really hosed.

01:14:06.168 --> 01:14:06.559
Hosed.

01:14:07.488 --> 01:14:09.649
And there's things that we could do that imp improve our revenue.

01:14:10.939 --> 01:14:12.769
New belgium's, our biggest tourist draw.

01:14:12.948 --> 01:14:13.099
Yeah.

01:14:13.099 --> 01:14:15.259
With well over a hundred to 150,000 people.

01:14:15.288 --> 01:14:15.349
Okay.

01:14:15.349 --> 01:14:16.069
That comes to New Belgium.

01:14:16.128 --> 01:14:16.248
Yep.

01:14:16.253 --> 01:14:16.404
Yep.

01:14:16.609 --> 01:14:24.559
That corridor along Linden, we can improve that corridors and make it a mixed use and amplify that tourism thing and see that tourism dollars come in.

01:14:24.564 --> 01:14:24.804
Yeah.

01:14:24.809 --> 01:14:25.069
Yeah.

01:14:25.099 --> 01:14:26.418
Um, so we need to track.

01:14:26.779 --> 01:14:28.338
This goes back to the green energy thing.

01:14:28.338 --> 01:14:31.814
It's attract businesses that will spend money and people.

01:14:31.814 --> 01:14:31.934
Yeah.

01:14:31.939 --> 01:14:33.168
And they don't need big footprints.

01:14:33.198 --> 01:14:33.408
No.

01:14:33.798 --> 01:14:38.988
And then we also need to big offices make it easier, uh, to live here too.

01:14:39.469 --> 01:14:44.088
Uh, our, we're losing tax revenue'cause people are living because they can't afford here.

01:14:44.088 --> 01:14:44.179
Yeah.

01:14:44.179 --> 01:14:46.338
As a realtor, I sold more, they moved to Eden.

01:14:46.399 --> 01:14:46.548
Yeah.

01:14:46.548 --> 01:14:49.729
I sold more properties in Greeley and severance than I did in Fort Collins.

01:14:49.729 --> 01:14:50.929
'cause no one could afford Fort Collins.

01:14:50.929 --> 01:14:51.139
Yep.

01:14:51.378 --> 01:14:54.498
So now they're spending all their tax revenue in severance in Windsor.

01:14:54.498 --> 01:14:54.588
Right.

01:14:54.828 --> 01:14:55.429
Seeing those cities.

01:14:55.429 --> 01:14:55.548
Well,

01:14:55.819 --> 01:14:56.448
I talked about that.

01:14:56.599 --> 01:14:59.779
Surely when you order online from Amazon or something.

01:15:00.979 --> 01:15:01.609
Yes.

01:15:01.998 --> 01:15:04.158
The, the local community still gets those dollars.

01:15:04.163 --> 01:15:06.168
But if you're ordering online from severance,

01:15:06.259 --> 01:15:06.559
no.

01:15:06.618 --> 01:15:07.819
Then they get it.

01:15:08.208 --> 01:15:08.599
They get it.

01:15:08.599 --> 01:15:12.889
And most people spend, you know, and if they were driving to Fort College to buy it instead, then they would've got it there.

01:15:13.069 --> 01:15:17.868
And 80 people spend about 80, 85% of all the money within two miles where they live.

01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:18.529
Right.

01:15:18.529 --> 01:15:19.878
That's in ca that's including housing.

01:15:20.118 --> 01:15:20.509
Wow.

01:15:20.569 --> 01:15:21.319
So they spend.

01:15:21.679 --> 01:15:22.338
Almost all their money.

01:15:22.338 --> 01:15:24.408
They don't spend it where they work, they spend it where they live.

01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:24.588
Yeah.

01:15:25.038 --> 01:15:33.738
As we need more people to be able to afford to live in Fort Collins and not commute to also those, that commuting timeframe and negatively impacts our budget.

01:15:33.738 --> 01:15:35.269
'cause it costs more to maintain the roads.

01:15:35.538 --> 01:15:35.868
Sure.

01:15:36.048 --> 01:15:37.519
It costs more for traffic policing.

01:15:37.609 --> 01:15:40.578
It costs more for insurance for, uh, paramedics.

01:15:41.059 --> 01:15:46.189
It also, uh, puts more negative, uh, air quality carbon stuff's going on.

01:15:46.338 --> 01:15:49.609
So it's like a triple negative to how people not live here.

01:15:50.029 --> 01:15:51.529
So we need to.

01:15:51.738 --> 01:15:58.009
And so, uh, it goes with like building condos, building housing, different housing things, attracting new businesses.

01:15:58.429 --> 01:16:00.529
What do you think about BlackRock owning all the houses?

01:16:01.219 --> 01:16:09.708
I, so I'm pushing an, an initiative and narrative to, um, build more for sale condos strictly for owner occupied.

01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:10.429
Mm.

01:16:10.429 --> 01:16:10.729
Okay.

01:16:10.819 --> 01:16:13.458
Um, there's a ratio and we're close to it.

01:16:13.458 --> 01:16:17.118
Like if you get over 50% of your population rents in your own city.

01:16:17.854 --> 01:16:22.474
Um, you start seeing a, a decline in home values community.

01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:23.248
Just interaction.

01:16:23.248 --> 01:16:23.328
Yeah.

01:16:23.328 --> 01:16:23.854
Just actual investment in

01:16:23.854 --> 01:16:24.394
being here.

01:16:24.453 --> 01:16:24.753
Yeah.

01:16:24.783 --> 01:16:26.253
'cause you're not permanently here.

01:16:26.314 --> 01:16:26.524
Yeah.

01:16:26.524 --> 01:16:28.083
And we're at like 49%.

01:16:28.234 --> 01:16:28.654
Wow.

01:16:28.863 --> 01:16:30.243
Which is, we're hired'cause of the college.

01:16:30.243 --> 01:16:31.083
That's, that's normal.

01:16:31.203 --> 01:16:31.444
Yeah.

01:16:31.503 --> 01:16:34.234
Um, but we really need increase ownership,

01:16:34.234 --> 01:16:35.404
but so many more.

01:16:35.404 --> 01:16:46.323
Like there was hardly any families with two kids that rented a house when I was, you know, in my early thirties for example and stuff, everybody found a way to buy something.

01:16:46.323 --> 01:16:48.453
They bought a crappy little town home or whatever.

01:16:49.323 --> 01:16:51.088
But now that a lot of'em can't, you know,

01:16:51.088 --> 01:16:54.844
and we were, you know, in our thirties, uh, and twenties, um.

01:16:55.234 --> 01:17:00.634
Before the building Defects law came about in 2008, we saw about an 80 20 build.

01:17:00.663 --> 01:17:05.404
80% single family is 20% condos for sale condos and attached units, which is healthy.

01:17:05.764 --> 01:17:15.243
Since 2008 we saw, we've seen a 97 3%, 97% single family homes built in the state, 3% attached.

01:17:15.694 --> 01:17:23.073
And if you saw from like, let's say 2012 to 2020, all the attached units were those million dollar row housing.

01:17:23.344 --> 01:17:23.644
Right.

01:17:23.793 --> 01:17:25.774
Because what would happen?

01:17:25.774 --> 01:17:26.524
Oh wow.

01:17:26.673 --> 01:17:26.974
I had

01:17:26.974 --> 01:17:30.033
no idea that we had just completely stopped building condos

01:17:30.033 --> 01:17:30.663
and the reason of it.

01:17:30.663 --> 01:17:30.963
So they just

01:17:30.963 --> 01:17:31.984
built apartments instead.

01:17:32.014 --> 01:17:33.753
'cause the liability is too high to build a condo

01:17:33.783 --> 01:17:36.993
because liability insurance in 2008, on average about$500 a unit.

01:17:37.533 --> 01:17:39.663
By 20 20 12, it was over 30,000.

01:17:39.993 --> 01:17:40.654
Wow.

01:17:41.014 --> 01:17:47.194
And because the, there was over 70, 75% of all condom projects with no litigation.

01:17:47.463 --> 01:17:48.003
Wow.

01:17:48.064 --> 01:17:50.373
There's a pro down in Denver that.

01:17:50.673 --> 01:17:55.173
The litigation increased their, uh, the cost of the project by a billion dollars.

01:17:55.713 --> 01:17:56.253
Oh my God.

01:17:56.673 --> 01:17:58.203
And so that's crazy.

01:17:58.203 --> 01:17:59.793
If you're insurance company Yeah.

01:17:59.823 --> 01:18:00.543
You're not gonna build it.

01:18:00.543 --> 01:18:00.604
Yeah.

01:18:00.663 --> 01:18:02.524
If you're a developer, you're not gonna build it.

01:18:03.003 --> 01:18:04.173
And so that

01:18:04.323 --> 01:18:04.743
Right.

01:18:04.743 --> 01:18:07.384
That any capital source for that is like by,

01:18:08.344 --> 01:18:11.224
so the vacuum was filled by, um,

01:18:12.724 --> 01:18:13.173
apartments.

01:18:13.203 --> 01:18:13.293
Yeah.

01:18:13.293 --> 01:18:13.774
One of these.

01:18:14.703 --> 01:18:16.113
No, but, okay.

01:18:16.113 --> 01:18:16.594
Thank you though.

01:18:17.823 --> 01:18:20.104
Oh God, that looks so scary.

01:18:20.764 --> 01:18:22.113
Uh, I just, for the record,

01:18:22.113 --> 01:18:23.734
wanna say, Paul, I dislike you.

01:18:26.373 --> 01:18:29.554
I just touched a little bit and licked it off my hand.

01:18:29.944 --> 01:18:32.703
So the first time I had this sauce, I was at, oh my God.

01:18:32.884 --> 01:18:36.363
I was at like, literally, it was like a spec size amount.

01:18:36.453 --> 01:18:36.844
Keep going.

01:18:37.264 --> 01:18:43.293
I, I was at Paul's place, Matador Matador, and I, and I gave it just the back of a spoon.

01:18:44.179 --> 01:18:45.288
And I put the spoon down.

01:18:45.859 --> 01:18:51.259
I stood up, walked next door to Coldstone Creamery, bought some ice cream, bottom ice cream.

01:18:51.259 --> 01:18:52.488
I stuck, just stuck my tongue in it.

01:18:55.069 --> 01:18:55.849
I don't doubt it.

01:18:56.748 --> 01:19:03.378
Um, I'm, I'm gonna just do the tiniest, you have to do extra this, I'll do extra because you're, you're a, you're a man.

01:19:03.514 --> 01:19:04.488
I'm, I'm a wimp.

01:19:05.238 --> 01:19:06.259
No, I'm just not smart.

01:19:06.259 --> 01:19:08.988
When people ask like, why I'm running for office, I was like, I have a head injury.

01:19:10.429 --> 01:19:11.389
I didn't dab that.

01:19:11.389 --> 01:19:13.488
I'm gonna get rid of some of this on this other guy.

01:19:13.819 --> 01:19:14.779
Oh, that's get off of there.

01:19:14.988 --> 01:19:15.769
That's a lot right

01:19:15.769 --> 01:19:16.099
there.

01:19:24.618 --> 01:19:25.939
I noticed you didn't double dip though.

01:19:26.599 --> 01:19:27.979
No, but I got a healthy amount.

01:19:28.099 --> 01:19:28.519
You did.

01:19:33.229 --> 01:19:35.929
So this one's called you, you called it O Loft.

01:19:35.929 --> 01:19:37.338
I, I heard O Loft.

01:19:37.368 --> 01:19:38.088
That may right.

01:19:38.088 --> 01:19:38.269
But.

01:19:39.064 --> 01:19:40.594
Would you know the heritage?

01:19:40.713 --> 01:19:45.543
No, I just know that comes from Paul and

01:19:45.873 --> 01:19:47.314
Oh, and some kinda a show or something.

01:19:47.854 --> 01:19:48.783
I thought it was right.

01:19:49.564 --> 01:19:54.514
Well, I, I think of Olaf as like a big Viking dude that will cut my head off with a big sword.

01:19:54.904 --> 01:19:57.814
I thought it was a play on the Olaf, the from Frozen.

01:19:57.814 --> 01:19:58.173
Oh, yeah,

01:19:58.203 --> 01:19:58.654
yeah, yeah.

01:19:58.654 --> 01:19:59.253
You mentioned that.

01:19:59.283 --> 01:20:00.498
I thought it was that, but I'm not sure.

01:20:00.498 --> 01:20:01.923
Oh, that's what, uh, that's what Ava said.

01:20:01.984 --> 01:20:02.854
She confirmed it.

01:20:03.304 --> 01:20:03.514
Oh.

01:20:03.724 --> 01:20:08.583
Uh, so it's, I don't know what frozen, I mean, I've seen Frozen, but I don't, I'm, I'm not good at that game.

01:20:08.823 --> 01:20:11.014
I know lots of other stuff, but not movie scenes.

01:20:11.463 --> 01:20:11.703
No worries.

01:20:11.703 --> 01:20:12.814
Um, I'm dripping pretty good.

01:20:13.354 --> 01:20:14.073
It is hot.

01:20:14.134 --> 01:20:14.884
It builds,

01:20:15.184 --> 01:20:22.173
um, nobody should request this or order it or God forbid jar it.

01:20:22.179 --> 01:20:25.024
It just keeps, um, just keeps going.

01:20:25.054 --> 01:20:29.073
But it's, it's actually not, it's good flavor.

01:20:29.163 --> 01:20:35.493
It really is like, it has a nice, it almost reminds me of a little bit of.

01:20:37.939 --> 01:20:43.248
Like molasses or something like kind of Cajun sweet.

01:20:43.248 --> 01:20:43.548
Yeah.

01:20:43.548 --> 01:20:45.319
Going on on the back end.

01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:49.788
Like maybe some of that dark color is just a little dab of molasses to keep you from dying or something.

01:20:49.788 --> 01:20:50.179
I don't know.

01:20:50.269 --> 01:20:51.679
It builds on the back gland.

01:20:51.684 --> 01:20:51.734
Yeah.

01:20:51.738 --> 01:20:52.099
Yeah.

01:20:52.099 --> 01:20:52.279
Like it's

01:20:52.279 --> 01:20:53.088
back here.

01:20:53.179 --> 01:20:53.359
Mm-hmm.

01:20:54.529 --> 01:20:56.029
Every time I breathe out it gets hotter.

01:20:58.368 --> 01:20:58.849
Yes.

01:20:59.179 --> 01:20:59.868
That is true.

01:21:00.618 --> 01:21:03.378
Um, the last question is the loco experience.

01:21:03.498 --> 01:21:03.679
Okay.

01:21:03.738 --> 01:21:07.998
And that is the craziest experience of your lifetime.

01:21:08.418 --> 01:21:08.448
Okay.

01:21:08.448 --> 01:21:10.338
That you're willing to share with our listeners.

01:21:11.238 --> 01:21:14.929
Uh, you get extra points if it's, you know, near death or anything super crazy.

01:21:14.929 --> 01:21:17.569
But it is death, death, death, death.

01:21:18.498 --> 01:21:20.118
I was just looking at the scar on the side of your head.

01:21:20.118 --> 01:21:20.899
It isn't that is it?

01:21:20.899 --> 01:21:21.123
It is.

01:21:21.128 --> 01:21:21.918
Is it related to that?

01:21:21.948 --> 01:21:22.219
Yeah.

01:21:22.639 --> 01:21:23.269
Um,

01:21:23.269 --> 01:21:25.668
sorry, I didn't notice that before, just now.

01:21:26.088 --> 01:21:27.349
No, it's, it's a running joke.

01:21:27.349 --> 01:21:31.609
I use, uh, that the reason I'm running for office is'cause I have brain injury.

01:21:32.884 --> 01:21:34.024
And I was like, what's your excuse?

01:21:34.384 --> 01:21:38.404
Um, it's just, uh, being in politics is always fun.

01:21:38.463 --> 01:21:46.774
Um, but uh, when I was 19, uh, back in oh three, I, uh, was dumb, decided to sit on the back of a car.

01:21:46.774 --> 01:21:46.804
Okay.

01:21:47.073 --> 01:21:52.113
Um, but he was driving, girlfriend was on the back, uh, the trunk of the car with me.

01:21:52.264 --> 01:21:54.094
Oh, so you're just sitting and face him backwards and

01:21:54.333 --> 01:21:54.543
Yeah.

01:21:54.543 --> 01:21:56.493
Go and go play basketball over at Linton.

01:21:56.793 --> 01:21:59.463
And, uh, buddy thought it'd be fun to goose it.

01:21:59.854 --> 01:22:00.363
Oh shit.

01:22:00.484 --> 01:22:05.404
And we hit, her and I both flew off, and I don't remember any of this.

01:22:06.094 --> 01:22:09.394
Uh, I caught her and she was fine.

01:22:09.394 --> 01:22:10.804
She ended up having like a scratch.

01:22:10.984 --> 01:22:12.333
Uh, but I landed on my head.

01:22:12.333 --> 01:22:12.753
You're both

01:22:12.753 --> 01:22:14.253
falling off the back and you're like,

01:22:14.314 --> 01:22:14.764
yeah.

01:22:14.764 --> 01:22:19.654
And so I, uh, I ended up spending a couple days in a coma.

01:22:20.043 --> 01:22:20.314
Oh, wow.

01:22:20.314 --> 01:22:28.953
Um, I, from what I've been told, uh, on the operating table, had issues, um, I had family driving from.

01:22:29.373 --> 01:22:29.974
Like issues,

01:22:29.974 --> 01:22:30.604
like you're

01:22:30.783 --> 01:22:32.434
probably not gonna make it kind of thing.

01:22:32.434 --> 01:22:33.783
And stuff was going down.

01:22:33.844 --> 01:22:35.163
My family, my family thought I was gonna make it.

01:22:35.208 --> 01:22:35.498
Yeah.

01:22:35.503 --> 01:22:35.734
Yeah.

01:22:35.823 --> 01:22:44.404
Um, and so this is probably why I'm always so optimistically positive is I didn't, I didn't realize it by how many people came out.

01:22:45.243 --> 01:22:47.613
Like in high school, I wasn't, I thought I was kind of popular.

01:22:47.944 --> 01:22:48.333
Okay.

01:22:48.573 --> 01:22:50.493
I did theater, not popular.

01:22:50.524 --> 01:22:51.033
I was known.

01:22:51.243 --> 01:22:51.484
Yeah.

01:22:51.514 --> 01:22:52.113
I was a theater.

01:22:52.113 --> 01:22:53.389
People knew that I was a goofball.

01:22:54.069 --> 01:22:54.229
Yeah.

01:22:54.248 --> 01:22:57.963
Uh, I mean, you literally had me cracking up before we started this podcast.

01:22:57.963 --> 01:23:00.484
Like you could be a standup comic if you chose to.

01:23:00.634 --> 01:23:01.743
I was, uh, I did.

01:23:01.743 --> 01:23:04.894
I was Axus Swayze in the, uh, a Chippendales routine.

01:23:04.894 --> 01:23:07.354
So I was in my underwear like three times in my singing in high school.

01:23:08.194 --> 01:23:09.694
Was your physique similar?

01:23:09.694 --> 01:23:12.873
No, I, I, I, I was Chris Harley a hundred percent even back then.

01:23:13.083 --> 01:23:13.264
Okay.

01:23:13.503 --> 01:23:17.194
Uh, but so, but how many people came out to the hospital?

01:23:17.314 --> 01:23:22.054
And it was weird for me'cause I woke up a couple days later with no memory of what happened.

01:23:22.113 --> 01:23:22.564
Wow.

01:23:22.569 --> 01:23:22.748
And.

01:23:23.988 --> 01:23:26.149
Um, so for me, I was like, I'm fine.

01:23:26.418 --> 01:23:26.929
You know?

01:23:27.078 --> 01:23:29.868
And you're, you're 40 something now or something?

01:23:29.899 --> 01:23:30.498
Yeah, 41.

01:23:30.618 --> 01:23:30.948
Okay.

01:23:31.038 --> 01:23:33.259
So this was 20 years ago.

01:23:33.319 --> 01:23:33.769
Yeah.

01:23:33.769 --> 01:23:33.779
Yeah.

01:23:34.038 --> 01:23:38.298
Uh, and so community came out, family drove up from Mississippi.

01:23:38.298 --> 01:23:39.168
They flew in.

01:23:39.168 --> 01:23:40.759
They thought they, they didn't think I was gonna make it.

01:23:40.939 --> 01:23:41.208
Yeah.

01:23:41.809 --> 01:23:47.509
Um, and surprisingly, I woke up, first thing I said when I woke up was like, well, I'm in the hospital.

01:23:47.929 --> 01:23:49.458
Uh, and I asked my dad for a frosty.

01:23:50.748 --> 01:23:53.809
And then I remember my mother telling to my dad, go get him.

01:23:53.809 --> 01:23:56.029
A mother from Frosty.

01:23:56.269 --> 01:23:59.748
Um, now he asked for a frosty go, him.

01:23:59.748 --> 01:24:00.828
A frosty, frosty.

01:24:01.158 --> 01:24:10.729
Um, and so after that, just, uh, and I was super fortunate because they had me do some rehab classes, um, things.

01:24:10.819 --> 01:24:11.179
Sure.

01:24:11.238 --> 01:24:12.469
Talking around people was like, serious.

01:24:12.469 --> 01:24:12.679
But you

01:24:12.679 --> 01:24:12.873
were like.

01:24:13.894 --> 01:24:19.054
You were like probably a smart kid that turned into kind of not a very smart kid for a while probably, would you My guess?

01:24:19.054 --> 01:24:19.444
Kind of,

01:24:19.474 --> 01:24:19.833
yeah.

01:24:19.833 --> 01:24:23.253
I was actually, I wasn't that best in school actually,

01:24:23.314 --> 01:24:26.913
but because you fucked around too much and you were, Chris Farley ended up Yeah.

01:24:26.913 --> 01:24:28.113
And writing comedy.

01:24:28.384 --> 01:24:36.184
And I actually found that I became more, found my, my systems and my base after that a lot better.

01:24:36.423 --> 01:24:37.533
Oh, interesting.

01:24:37.953 --> 01:24:40.323
I became, I, I could never read it.

01:24:40.323 --> 01:24:40.623
Right.

01:24:40.684 --> 01:24:50.314
Uh, but I could understand for some reason that like I could read a policy and understand it and so now like my focus became a lot better.

01:24:50.404 --> 01:24:50.613
Hmm.

01:24:51.123 --> 01:24:55.113
Uh, and that's probably what shaped me being so policy driven now.

01:24:55.173 --> 01:24:55.384
Yeah.

01:24:55.384 --> 01:24:59.344
Is will you gimme a book, like a novel, a

01:24:59.734 --> 01:25:01.984
Stephen King novel or something dumb.

01:25:01.984 --> 01:25:03.873
I'm just three Speech to Win.

01:25:03.873 --> 01:25:04.984
I'm like, I don't, I didn't get it.

01:25:04.984 --> 01:25:05.224
Yeah.

01:25:05.224 --> 01:25:05.234
Yeah.

01:25:05.658 --> 01:25:09.439
You gave me a 2,500 page report from the EIS about the Glade Reservoir.

01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:12.168
I'll read through it all and I'll understand 80% of it.

01:25:12.378 --> 01:25:12.769
Wow.

01:25:12.798 --> 01:25:13.639
I don't know why.

01:25:14.538 --> 01:25:21.229
And so, uh, I so got outta the hospital and I I was so stubborn as a thir 19-year-old kid.

01:25:21.798 --> 01:25:22.548
I was like, I'm fine.

01:25:23.328 --> 01:25:24.618
I'll just go back to college.

01:25:24.948 --> 01:25:25.639
I'll be fine.

01:25:25.788 --> 01:25:26.088
Yeah.

01:25:26.118 --> 01:25:26.418
Funny.

01:25:26.479 --> 01:25:27.198
Uh, front range.

01:25:27.198 --> 01:25:29.059
Put me on, uh, academic probation.

01:25:29.088 --> 01:25:33.048
'cause I failed those three classes I was taking that summer whenever I had my head injury.

01:25:33.349 --> 01:25:34.429
'cause I was in a coma.

01:25:35.238 --> 01:25:35.689
Weird.

01:25:35.988 --> 01:25:40.639
Um, so, but it couldn't, like my, I couldn't focus right afterwards.

01:25:40.639 --> 01:25:44.238
And so, so that was the most impactful Well, yeah.

01:25:44.418 --> 01:25:47.569
Part I was going through a career, probably in the restaurant business.

01:25:47.809 --> 01:25:48.109
Okay.

01:25:48.109 --> 01:25:52.309
Afterwards I got into sales, um, and I was really determined.

01:25:52.309 --> 01:25:54.019
I had a speech impediment before.

01:25:54.738 --> 01:25:55.368
My head injury.

01:25:55.458 --> 01:25:55.908
Okay.

01:25:55.908 --> 01:25:58.309
It was made significantly worse, or not significantly.

01:25:58.309 --> 01:25:58.578
I thought I heard a

01:25:58.578 --> 01:26:02.418
snippet of it earlier, just like a little, little tiny snip of it.

01:26:02.479 --> 01:26:04.458
So I have to focus a little bit more when I speak.

01:26:04.548 --> 01:26:04.729
Yeah.

01:26:04.759 --> 01:26:05.509
Um huh.

01:26:05.988 --> 01:26:10.338
And just to make sure, and I, it was from the hot sauce really, I think that activated

01:26:10.548 --> 01:26:10.819
hot sauce.

01:26:11.929 --> 01:26:19.368
Well, and I, in my head, I, I think I can say these larger words and I know what they mean, but then I try to say'em and it comes out as gobbly goop.

01:26:20.088 --> 01:26:27.349
So like, man, you are incredibly well-spoken for somebody that's like overcome, uh, yeah.

01:26:27.529 --> 01:26:28.819
Like a brain injury basically.

01:26:28.819 --> 01:26:29.149
Right?

01:26:29.149 --> 01:26:29.804
Like that's what you're telling me.

01:26:30.934 --> 01:26:32.644
Kind of rehab from it, all that.

01:26:32.673 --> 01:26:33.064
Yeah.

01:26:33.394 --> 01:26:33.904
So yeah.

01:26:33.904 --> 01:26:36.064
Very, very, um, very effective.

01:26:36.154 --> 01:26:41.224
Uh, and I was lucky I was in rehabs with people that, that had huge physical challenges.

01:26:41.229 --> 01:26:41.644
Sure, sure.

01:26:41.644 --> 01:26:44.944
And it's taught me a lot of humility, a lot of humble, um, nature Yeah.

01:26:44.944 --> 01:26:47.314
Realized on how community connected we are.

01:26:47.373 --> 01:26:51.514
So, uh, that price started me on the path for the non-profits and helping out the community.

01:26:51.514 --> 01:26:54.123
And so that was the most impactful find

01:26:54.123 --> 01:26:54.724
for sure.

01:26:54.904 --> 01:26:55.923
So a hundred percent.

01:26:56.104 --> 01:26:56.344
Yeah.

01:26:56.884 --> 01:26:59.224
Well, uh, thanks for sharing that story.

01:26:59.224 --> 01:27:04.413
And, uh, we were talking about how in some ways you're kind of the, uh.

01:27:05.269 --> 01:27:09.319
Kind of sneaky ranked choice voting potential here.

01:27:09.319 --> 01:27:13.429
Like you might not be too many people's first choice, but you might be a lot of people's second choice.

01:27:13.548 --> 01:27:13.609
Yeah.

01:27:13.609 --> 01:27:15.618
And maybe especially after this shot.

01:27:15.623 --> 01:27:18.229
So, so, and I was kind, you're not as known as some of the other candidates.

01:27:18.378 --> 01:27:19.219
Not as known.

01:27:19.219 --> 01:27:21.979
Um, you know, and I was part of the group that got us ranked choice voting.

01:27:22.189 --> 01:27:23.868
I Oh, you were, I advocate for this.

01:27:23.868 --> 01:27:26.899
Uh, a lot of people know me'cause they help get rid of u plus two.

01:27:27.288 --> 01:27:27.738
Oh, good.

01:27:28.458 --> 01:27:28.849
Thank you.

01:27:29.029 --> 01:27:29.988
And then I, I've helped

01:27:30.168 --> 01:27:32.179
write, I thought that was dumb since the first time I heard about it a

01:27:32.238 --> 01:27:32.748
hundred percent.

01:27:34.458 --> 01:27:35.298
So I got that passed.

01:27:35.298 --> 01:27:38.988
And so, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm known in like the policy side.

01:27:38.988 --> 01:27:40.668
The staff, city staff knows me.

01:27:40.668 --> 01:27:41.059
They know me.

01:27:41.059 --> 01:27:42.229
A couple people know me at the state.

01:27:42.229 --> 01:27:44.448
I've, uh, helped get a couple bills passed at the state.

01:27:45.288 --> 01:27:46.038
But this is weird.

01:27:46.038 --> 01:27:48.259
I've always been behind the scene on the policy side.

01:27:48.288 --> 01:27:48.623
Yeah, yeah.

01:27:48.628 --> 01:27:51.588
Um, and now being kind of out in the front.

01:27:51.774 --> 01:27:52.064
Yeah.

01:27:52.064 --> 01:27:52.073
Yeah.

01:27:52.073 --> 01:27:54.349
Um, getting that name, repetition.

01:27:54.349 --> 01:27:57.679
But most people I can talk to, I can talk about any subject for anything.

01:27:57.679 --> 01:27:57.828
And.

01:27:58.444 --> 01:27:58.774
Dig it.

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It's really fun.

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Well, I've enjoyed our time together.

01:28:00.753 --> 01:28:04.623
You look like you're, are you one of those guys that gets hiccups sometimes when they have hot sauce?

01:28:04.713 --> 01:28:08.854
Uh, I haven't before, but Olaf is, you're thinking about getting some hiccups brewing here.

01:28:08.974 --> 01:28:09.213
Olaf has, uh,

01:28:10.953 --> 01:28:11.644
thanks Paul.

01:28:11.644 --> 01:28:11.913
Thanks

01:28:11.913 --> 01:28:12.394
Paul.

01:28:12.993 --> 01:28:14.974
Well, Adam, I sure appreciated the time.

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Thanks for being my guest and local experience.

01:28:17.679 --> 01:28:17.819
Great.

01:28:17.944 --> 01:28:20.073
Thanks for hosting so much and good luck in the election.

01:28:20.104 --> 01:28:20.703
Thank you so much.

01:28:20.734 --> 01:28:21.604
This has been a blast.

01:28:21.604 --> 01:28:22.173
Thank you so much.

01:28:22.264 --> 01:28:22.713
Good speed.

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Thanks.