Oct. 15, 2025

BONUS EPISODE - #6 Hot Nugs Conversation with Adam Hirschhorn for Mayor of the City of Fort Collins

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Adam Hirschhorn is a candidate for Fort Collins Mayor, and joined me for the last of our Hot Nugs Conversations - a collaboration between LoCo Think Tank, Matador Mexican Grill, Old Town Spice Shop, and The LoCo Experience Podcast.  

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Adam Hirschhorn is a candidate for Fort Collins Mayor.

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And join me for the last of our hot Nugs conversations, A collaboration between Loco Think Tank Matador, Mexican Grill, old Town Spice Shop, and the Loco Experience Podcast.

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Please visit Adam's page, at elect Adam Mayer Blue Sky, B Sky Social to learn more about his platform.

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And make sure to vote by or before November 4th, 2025.

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Welcome back to the Loco Experience Podcast.

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My guest today is Adam Hirschhorn and he is the second to the last of the Hot Ns conversations with Fort Collins mayoral candidates.

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I've got Emily Francis coming in just shortly.

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So Adam, welcome to the Loco Experience Podcast Studio.

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Is this your first time on a podcast?

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This is my third podcast now.

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Third podcast.

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Oh, nice.

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You're working the back channels.

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Is it all during the mayoral campaign or just other interests?

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Yeah, I'll, I, I'm very open to new media.

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I dig it.

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I dig it.

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Well, maybe you'll launch the underground wave that will sweep you to victory.

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Um, if you would, for our listeners, maybe take like two minutes to both share a little bit about your background, uh, history in Fort Collins, and then also why you're running for mayor.

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Okay,

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so

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I was born to, uh, an Ashkenazi Jew and a daughter of the American Revolution.

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And, uh, I grew up in Kentucky.

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Okay.

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Um,

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like urban Kentucky or, oh, no

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backwards, Kentucky, no backwards.

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Definitely, uh, outside of Ashland, up the hollow on the hill privilege.

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But every time I took the school bus, I could see the hollows.

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Hmm.

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Interesting.

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And, uh, on the second part of the question, um, why, what motivates you to run for the Fort Collins mayor position?

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Well, you, me, everyone is confronted by blowback from the Holocaust and Gaza climate catastrophe, and the rise of full blown fascism occurs to me that someone had better savior your bacon.

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And I was looking around and I didn't see anybody answering all of those challenges.

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So do you think that Fort Collins can make a major impact in those things?

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Well, we are definitely better shore up our interests, so those things don't make a big impact on us.

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Okay.

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Fair enough.

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Well, I think, um, it's a good time to have our first nug.

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This first sauce is the barbecue sauce from Matador Mexican Grill.

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And, uh, the policy so far has been we can share a dipping station.

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You can swing that microphone out to dip and then, uh, but if you double dip, you gotta turn it around and do the backside that you haven't bit yet.

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Hmm.

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I still like it, Paul.

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You know, I went to CSU for music.

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This is horrible vocal discipline, but, oh, well.

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Oh, the, uh, the, the sauces or the nuggets?

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Just the eating in general while we're doing it.

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I don't know.

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Hmm.

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But I'm, I'm willing to do everything awful.

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As long as we get to the hot sauce.

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I, I wanted, we'll get there.

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We'll get there.

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Tell me what you, what you're.

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Tasting notes are on this barbecue sauce, though.

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First

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kind of maple.

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Okay.

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A little bit of sweet.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Not your favorite.

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It's, it's a little mayo.

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Okay.

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Um, if you'd like, um, here, let me do this.

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If you don't want to finish your nugget, you can throw it in there.

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Oh my gosh.

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Wasting food.

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You're gonna eat'em the, like, the, the sustainability people are gonna be all over me If I waste food.

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Oh, I'll feed it to my chickens.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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I mean, it's kind of chicken feeding chickens to chickens.

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That's just a little bit weird too.

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But I don't think it's very much chicken in those nuggets.

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Seems reasonable.

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That seems cannibalistic slightly.

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It's a lot more breading than it is chicken though.

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So it's just slightly cannibalistic.

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But that's not the question.

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The question is, is what's, oh, is from James Merkley of Story Path Creative, and the question is, what's your fondest story to share about the people or community of Fort Collins?

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For many years, I was a street musician in this city.

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Okay.

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I would say.

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Like what you'd imagine, like a guitar case open and,

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yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Just the thing and the generosity of the community was just overwhelming.

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Cool.

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Are there any particular stories that, like where somebody hooked you up with a hon or things like that, that are really meaningful?

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Or was it more about just the consistency?

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Well, the,

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the meaningful things were always just.

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The little weird things, like I would get like a, maybe like a Greek coin in the case, or maybe get like a$2 bill or something like that.

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It was just they, they went out of their way to put, put something unique, like a little

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bit special.

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Yeah.

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I dig that.

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Dig that.

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Ava, I think we're ready.

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The second one is the Buffalo Rub from Old Town Spice Shop.

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So this is a rub, not a sauce, but, uh, gentlemen, first please if you'd like.

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Yeah, it sticks pretty good, so you get a nice flavor sample on there, even though it's not a sauce.

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Daddy likes.

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Peppery mustardy.

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Goodness.

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Hmm.

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Yes.

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You can double dip.

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It's okay if you switch it.

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Turn it to the other side.

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Yeah.

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It's been a very popular, um, oh, and I, I should mention, so that I don't forget, like I did with Tricia, um, you get to choose your favorite out of all these, uh, rubs and sauces.

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Mm.

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So after we get done with this series, we're gonna send you home with one to say.

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Thanks for, thanks for being here.

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In addition to those cool shades I gave you, Ooh,

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the Which rub is that?

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It's called the Buffalo Rub.

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The Buffalo Rub, I think

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it's called Buffalo Rub.

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Uh, you can check it out if the, if you'd like, it's that second char right there.

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Uh, turn it to the, yeah.

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I think it's just Buffalo Rub, right?

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Buffalo Hot wing robe.

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Oh, buffalo Hot wing rub.

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Sorry.

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The Old Town Spice Shop.

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Yes.

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Our buffalo hot wing rub is decided.

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Deliciously spicy and a little bit sweet.

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Mm-hmm.

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I That cake.

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That cake quest.

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I'm glad.

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Question two is from Paul out here with Matador Mexican Grill.

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And it is, what is your plan to help support small businesses to start and grow in Northern Colorado?

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That's a great question and it needs to be addressed because, uh, we're in an era of consolidation.

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That's one of the things fascism does.

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So to save small businesses, we need to mob them up with one another in interesting ways, in ways that protect them against their own vulnerabilities, like seasonal vulnerabilities or economic vulnerabilities.

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Okay.

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And then.

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I've proposed, uh, Jacob Castillo Sustainability and Resilience campus on the north end of town.

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We had a promise to keep with our, uh, northern Latino neighbors to make sure that we, uh, developed their businesses as a matter of equity.

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So when it comes to equity, I want to exceed expectations, and that's going to have plenty of.

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Room for retail businesses, industrial sector businesses, and.

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That should be a great catalyst for our business future.

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And when you say mob them up, do you mean like, like forming, like associations and different things like that or what?

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Cooperative

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ownership.

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Okay.

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That's what, that's what I'll be promoting.

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I'm not going to like stick the thumb screws to people until they mob up their businesses with one another.

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But that's really what I wanna encourage.

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It's gonna help them stay afloat.

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So like the bigger businesses, the corporations.

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So they would like all

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merge together almost, uh,

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kind of like, uh,

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or have a back office, shared back offices and different things like the big corporations can have

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like many conglomerates.

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Interesting.

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Okay.

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I'd love to explore that further with you sometime, but I don't think we have time in this format, so thanks for that.

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This is the, uh, honey jalapeno, right?

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Honey.

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Yeah, honey.

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Jalapeno also from Matador Mexican Grill.

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It is the honey jalapeno sauce.

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I think I introduced it as habanero, but it's jalapeno.

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I dip you.

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I'll give it a shot.

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You dip, I dip, we dip.

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I'll put my hands up on my head.

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I don't, I don't think I know the rest of the songs or the words.

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It's one of my favorites for sure though, as part the sauce.

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Hmm.

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This is.

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Yeah, much better than I thought it would be.

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Good.

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What do you like about it?

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The sweetness really does compliment the jalapeno.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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I think even for the Spice Hai, this is something that they could still be friends with.

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Yeah.

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You know, even for those that are like, oh, I hate Hale pages, they're too spicy, you know, they'd be like, oh, but smothered in that honey flavor and

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yeah.

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Woven together.

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Very accessible.

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Like they're, yeah.

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That's exactly a lot of equity created by that honey.

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Um, jalapeno sauce right there, um, exceeding my expectations.

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My question three is from, um, mayor Emeritus Wade Troxel.

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Ooh,

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I

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am a fan.

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I am a fan as well, and he is a fan even of the local experience, I'm allowed to say that.

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'cause he sends me texts sometimes and says, that was a good one with such and such.

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Aw.

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Uh, so Fort Collins has been described as the Choice city of Colorado and is known for beers, bikes, and bands and more.

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What is your vision for the evolving brand for the city of Fort Collins in 30 years?

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What might Fort Collins be known for?

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Well.

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We had Best shore up our futures.

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If we're gonna count on the next 30 years and we had better start making good choices, choice City, um, I would hope that we would be rooted and connected for the duration, and that's the brand that I really think

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rooted and connected.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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What does connection look like in.

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Like today's society, I grew up in North Dakota.

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I'm like from a, a village basically, right?

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And so connection to me looked like you see everybody, you know, at least once a month just riding your bike around town, just about.

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But in a larger city, in a more urban environment, I'm not, you know, it's not social media to me much, you know, that doesn't seem to foster a ton of connection.

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But what does it really look like to be rooted and connected?

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I guess just paint me a picture a little bit more.

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I would love to paint you the picture of the Circle K where I was staying while displaced from Red Hill ponds.

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Hmm.

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We had a unit fire, this flooded 18 units.

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I was stuck out in the motel.

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Uh, but we somehow managed to have community.

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Yeah.

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Because it was staged for such, because there was a place to sit down and connect with folks and we automatically did.

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Yeah.

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That's cool.

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I appreciate that.

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Um, I think we're ready for the next, wanna finish that n or you want.

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Done with this?

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Yes, we're done with that one.

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So this fourth sauce is the Rebel uprising, uh, from the Brewhouse Sauces, which is the Old Town Spice Shop brand.

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And I'll, uh, give the guest first honors if you're ready.

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Once again, I think you're gonna like this one.

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Maybe the best so far.

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We'll see, I could be wrong.

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Trying to read your, uh, read your taste buds is,

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you

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know.

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Mm,

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nope.

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Not the favorite.

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Too much tomato for you.

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This is, this is more of, um, classic buffalo.

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I'm,

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you're kind of like a Louisiana and a buffalo married in some ways to me.

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'cause it's got that kind of Cajun spicing.

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It, it didn't really hit me.

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Wasn't your favorite?

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Well, I mean, oh,

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it's hitting me.

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See, I told you I'd be sweating.

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Oh

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my goodness.

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Yeah.

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I'm already sweating.

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Yep.

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I, I told you

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more Cajun spices would be,

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you'd spice it up even more.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Um, so the fourth question is from Sean from Old Town Spice Shop.

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And the question is, the proposal for paid on street parking in Fort Collins aims to address revenue and parking turnover.

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How do you plan to balance the city's need for revenue and parking management with the concerns of business owners and customers regarding accessibility and affordability?

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Listen, I'm gonna be omnivorous about any kind of outside money I can bring into the city, but doing this to retail at this time seems like.

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Hmm.

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Ringing the bell and declaring the match over.

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I ain't heard no real, I haven't heard any bell.

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I am going to make sure that we keep old town businesses thriving and I don't think that this is the way paying

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for parking isn't gonna do it.

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Nah.

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Yeah.

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I, or I would tend to agree in some ways, like when they're battling for their lives against online retailers and.

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You know, those who don't really pay property taxes and stuff Right.

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To, yeah.

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Yep.

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And, and there's a lot of people that just park in the garage by default.

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A lot of people do and they should, but if you wanna hunt for a spot, then you should be able to get a free spot.

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I don't know, it's a libertarian to me.

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I want to get something for free, you know?

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Well, right on.

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I mean, I.

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I occupy like a very weird political niche where I sympathize greatly with the Libertarians.

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Um, I would consider myself libertarian left.

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Okay.

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Like the, yeah.

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Murray Chen post-Communist.

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Okay.

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I'm not familiar with that particular element.

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Well, yeah, I mean, element, it's.

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Uh, one of my detractors said, Hey, where's the manifesto?

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I don't need a manifesto.

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Thomas Jefferson wrote the manifesto.

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Okay,

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I like it.

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Um.

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Do you wanna take a break at all?

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Are you happy?

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And also, do you want some milk?

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We have some delicious milk from morning fresh dairy.

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Ooh, that can accompany our, our second half.

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I'm sorry, I forgot to offer that, but for me it sounds nice.

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So let's,

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I'm very tolerant of the lactose.

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Let's, uh, let's take a short break and we'll come back with milk.

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Okay., But I wanted to before we postscript,'cause we were coming back from the break and you were like, Hey, actually that rebel uprising has got some, yeah,

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it's got, uh, it's some nice qualities.

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It's got staple power.

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Like I, I wanted another VI and I went for the dip again and I'm like.

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Yeah, I could, I could keep eating this.

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Yeah.

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So it's, uh, doesn't make a great first impression, but it's that friend that kind of annoys you, but you always wanna go back to and hang out with.

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Just kidding.

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Let's try the, uh, this is the Jerk Seasoning, um, also from Old Town Spice Shop, Jamaican Jerk Hot.

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It says, although some of our guests have suggested that it wasn't as hot as advertised, but I think it would.

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This one doesn't stick super well.

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So yeah, do your best to kind of get a little, little sampling on there.

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Oh yeah.

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You like to jerk?

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah, that's gonna be a good one.

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And I think if you had like, to me, I, I think the only thing you should jerk just about is chicken thighs.

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Like, it feels to me like that's the right.

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Part of the chicken to really jerk rub.

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'cause it's got that beautiful, big, skinny area and it can just absorb so much spice and stuff.

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But the, the fat of the thigh can like, keep it moist and lovely.

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But that's just, now

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that's an interesting twist on dune.

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If they kept the spies in the thigh pads,

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if they kept the spies in the what?

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In the thigh pads.

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Thigh pads, yes.

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Um, that's,

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that's not what they keep in the thigh pads.

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I don't know what a thigh pad is.

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You've never seen dune?

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Uh, yes, I have seen dune, but we can't talk about it today, right now.

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Now I get it.

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The spice.

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Oh, and that must have been their packs where they carried it or something like that.

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I don't know.

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Um, I've seen the recent dune, but.

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We can't spend time there because, well, first you would, you would use this, the Jamaican jerk seasoning.

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You like that a lot?

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Yes.

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I think the, the spies will enable sp uh, space travel.

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Definitely this one.

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Okay, so you heard it here first, folks, get yourself some Jamaican jerk seasoning from Old Town Spice Shop and it will likely enable space travel, uh, if not now, soon.

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The social hot topic, how would you rate the city of Fort Collins on its homelessness initiatives in recent decades and recent years, and what changes would you recommend to the program going forward?

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That's not a social hot topic.

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That's something that they've tried to regurgitate with a little hate.

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Um, I don't, with a little hate.

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Yeah.

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I, I don't, I go into counsel and I hear the disparagement against those vagrants being bandied around.

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I've already ready, put forward a solution to solve the problem.

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Okay.

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We should be golden by the end of my term, as in.

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The deficit that we have and being unable to house people.

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Yeah.

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Three times that in surplus

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of just extra housing for the homeless.

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Right, right.

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Okay.

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I, I've been homeless before.

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Yeah.

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You, you suggested that at least.

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So,

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so

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why, why keep.

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Turning over this as though it's a new problem, it's not the hot social topic is, are we gonna let the federal government, uh, incite violence against trans persons?

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Are we going to let Palestinians continue to die while this community is complicit?

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Those are the hot social topics.

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Okay.

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But, and I want you to answer the first question, which is, what would you change?

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Like, so you just want to add a lot more housing to the mix?

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I, I wanna,

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I want to add housing that's already paid for with other things that we want to do.

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I want to add housing that helps prove a proof of concept of circular economy so that our production.

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Consumption and recycling are all under one roof.

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Okay.

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At least for one small community of about 750 to a thousand people.

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Okay.

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So you'd put the homeless into this community kind of to Yeah, just like grow food, production, consumption, and recycling.

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Just be kind of a little commun kind of thing.

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A farm.

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Okay.

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I mean, I think it's possible with today's farming techniques and a and a little bit of capital, you can raise a lot of food in not too much space.

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If you've got some, some labor available,

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supply chains, production all down, we are going to feel the end of peak food.

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Okay.

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Interesting.

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This is not the future.

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No chicken nuggets is not the future.

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I'm thankful for that.

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Um, we're gonna move on.

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Okay.

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To the next one.

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This is, I believe, called the red.

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Let me check it out here.

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Yes.

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This is from Matador.

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Oh, right.

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And, uh,

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has Matador stopped messing around?

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Are we, are we in, it's

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getting space here.

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The last two are, are taking it to the next level.

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The red is.

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Are

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we in Flavor Town?

00:24:06.902 --> 00:24:08.761
We're in, we're in Flavor Town, definitely.

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No left you hanging.

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It's the vinegar.

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Mm.

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Two vinegar for you.

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Mm-hmm.

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I really like vinegar, but it is a spice killer kind of.

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I like it on fish.

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Hmm.

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Like fish and chips, like malt vinegar.

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Yeah.

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You know what, what's funny is that my, my wife hates vinegar of every sort except for on fish and chips.

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And then she likes malt vinegar.

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And I dunno why anybody would do that, but I'll try not to judge.

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The sixth question, um, is a grab bag, and that is.

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But we put our guests through on the local experience.

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So there's 30 ping pong balls.

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Oops.

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29.

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Oh my God.

00:25:06.676 --> 00:25:07.906
29 ping pong balls.

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Oh, back up to 30 In this jar you're gonna pull up three.

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Our guests have to answer three, but you only have to answer one.

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Uh, but you may answer more.

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So just grab that whole jar from me, actually, and just take three out of there.

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You can pass it back.

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I'll hide it underneath the table.

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Oh, three white ones.

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It's rare.

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It's a bit like city council.

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Yeah.

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There were others to represent.

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It's just, uh, we got all white ones.

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Gimme

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your first number.

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22.

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If you could live anywhere for three months, a year, where would it be and, and why?

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Like if you were in Fort Collins for nine months, a year, and you could be somewhere else for three months, a year, where would you go?

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South Island of New Zealand.

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Have you been already?

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Never.

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But you've researched it and sounds like a good one.

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I dig it.

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Do you wanna do another one?

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Okay.

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You've already answered one, so you can do a pass if you want to.

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Oh.

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Oh wait.

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Oh God.

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We were supposed to.

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No, we did dip.

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Yeah, we did.

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We tried the red.

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It's

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a hard,

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it's a hard job.

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Palm my hip.

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I dip.

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You dip.

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You dip.

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I dip.

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Justin Timberlake.

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Never gets

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old.

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What do you got there?

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Uh, 24.

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24.

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What's the most durable business relationship you've had?

00:26:36.422 --> 00:26:38.281
Or mostly a business owners podcast?

00:26:39.571 --> 00:26:40.471
Oh, okay.

00:26:40.862 --> 00:26:47.041
Um, well, I was an employee.

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I was a worker.

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I would say that.

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Um.

00:26:53.491 --> 00:26:55.112
T-Mobile was a good relationship.

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Yeah, I'll dig it.

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25 and you have a tight band there.

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What's one thing on your bucket list that you're determined to accomplish?

00:27:07.321 --> 00:27:07.922
You can hand'em to me.

00:27:07.922 --> 00:27:16.652
If you like one thing on your bucket list that you wanna make sure you click check off.

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I'm doing it.

00:27:17.761 --> 00:27:19.261
Becoming the Fort Collins Mayor.

00:27:19.321 --> 00:27:20.162
Mayor of Fort Collins.

00:27:20.567 --> 00:27:25.547
I, if I, if I kept a bucket list, I would be filled with so much regret.

00:27:25.576 --> 00:27:26.596
I don't do that.

00:27:27.557 --> 00:27:30.166
I do the things that I want to do or I don't do them.

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Just living.

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I'll dig it.

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Um, next sauce, please.

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This one is now getting up into the highest coval zone.

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This is the Room two 17.

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Gentlemen, first please.

00:27:53.477 --> 00:27:53.896
Oh yeah.

00:27:53.902 --> 00:27:54.826
Is is that a,

00:27:55.186 --> 00:27:55.787
that's a good one.

00:27:55.846 --> 00:27:55.997
Yeah.

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Only murders in the building reference.

00:27:58.547 --> 00:27:59.356
I don't know.

00:27:59.356 --> 00:28:04.297
Actually, I have so many random things in my head that just pop up.

00:28:04.396 --> 00:28:06.707
Oh my gosh, this is a really good, finally a hot one.

00:28:07.396 --> 00:28:08.507
Mm-hmm.

00:28:10.876 --> 00:28:11.086
Yeah.

00:28:11.086 --> 00:28:15.436
It wasn't the tomato we, that, that got me off on the other one.

00:28:15.436 --> 00:28:16.307
It was just like.

00:28:17.027 --> 00:28:18.646
I barely tasted the spice.

00:28:18.646 --> 00:28:20.987
Now this is Flavor Town.

00:28:22.336 --> 00:28:23.297
Welcome to Flavor Town,

00:28:23.297 --> 00:28:23.507
Adam.

00:28:27.257 --> 00:28:39.886
The uh, community hot topic is our next one, and that's how can the city of Fort Collins maintain financial strength in light of declining sales tax collections.

00:28:40.576 --> 00:28:46.067
What mix of cost cutting and revenue enhancement strategies do you envision as being most important?

00:28:48.946 --> 00:28:52.457
Well, the waste is considerable, but it's not the whole picture.

00:28:52.906 --> 00:28:53.086
Okay.

00:28:53.237 --> 00:28:57.227
Uh, we can stop doing democracy with extra steps.

00:28:57.227 --> 00:28:58.096
We can stop

00:29:01.727 --> 00:29:03.227
like democracy with extra steps.

00:29:03.227 --> 00:29:03.856
Talk to me about that.

00:29:04.247 --> 00:29:08.791
Well, I mean, like you pull out the, uh, the power ball and it's like.

00:29:10.156 --> 00:29:14.386
Jennifer a kind of had the same idea with a public assembly.

00:29:15.017 --> 00:29:21.557
The public assembly is where you actually get everyone together and assemble.

00:29:21.977 --> 00:29:23.297
It's just that simple.

00:29:23.507 --> 00:29:31.457
It doesn't take gift cards, it doesn't take a gaming system.

00:29:31.457 --> 00:29:33.106
It's not a focus group.

00:29:33.136 --> 00:29:33.977
It is.

00:29:35.731 --> 00:29:45.511
The unleashing of our most vocal demands as a public.

00:29:46.771 --> 00:29:53.251
Don't you risk though, like having those most vocal demands being what moves the needle?

00:29:53.402 --> 00:29:59.201
Like the, the greasy, the squeaky wheel gets greased and then everybody else gets ignored in a situation like that?

00:30:02.281 --> 00:30:10.682
I don't think that, uh, I'm, I'm in danger of ignoring the, the quiet, everyday person.

00:30:10.771 --> 00:30:28.412
No, I think that I would be more like the governments that we've had in the recent past where each complaint brought forward to counsel Successively gets no traction.

00:30:29.761 --> 00:30:33.092
Get swept under the rug just makes us matter.

00:30:33.872 --> 00:30:38.251
I don't like that people have legitimate beef.

00:30:38.402 --> 00:30:39.392
I want to hear it.

00:30:40.471 --> 00:30:40.741
Okay.

00:30:41.701 --> 00:30:48.721
And so probably you're, you're against like more revenues through parking and stuff.

00:30:49.051 --> 00:30:52.711
Um, but more is just about cost cutting to have a good fiscal health.

00:30:52.741 --> 00:30:55.021
Well, more revenue from.

00:30:58.217 --> 00:30:59.446
What shall we call them?

00:30:59.446 --> 00:31:00.826
Our corporate sponsors?

00:31:01.096 --> 00:31:09.826
I mean, in my view, many of the corporations that are here in Fort Collins today are only here to cannibalize the talent of the CSU student.

00:31:09.916 --> 00:31:10.277
Okay.

00:31:11.896 --> 00:31:18.682
I think that, uh, we should totally have streets like sponsored by broadband or no.

00:31:19.457 --> 00:31:23.686
I mean, it's, it's like all this street and stuff little, it

00:31:23.686 --> 00:31:26.957
should just be more like, uh, Coca-Cola drive.

00:31:28.007 --> 00:31:28.307
I dunno.

00:31:28.307 --> 00:31:28.846
Let's move on.

00:31:31.277 --> 00:31:32.297
It's horrible, isn't it?

00:31:33.166 --> 00:31:41.176
Well, it's an interesting place where, where the, the, the big money can buy influence and the little money can buy nothing.

00:31:41.386 --> 00:31:45.916
Um, you know, and especially in an inflationary economy, the little money buys very little.

00:31:47.176 --> 00:31:48.287
Let's try this last one.

00:31:48.287 --> 00:31:53.116
This is the Jack Slade's Revenge Gentlemen.

00:31:53.116 --> 00:31:53.596
First,

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what did Jack Slade,

00:32:00.021 --> 00:32:00.311
what?

00:32:00.317 --> 00:32:01.576
What did we do to Jack Slade?

00:32:01.576 --> 00:32:05.957
I, I did nothing to Jack Slade, but he's gonna make me sweat more.

00:32:09.291 --> 00:32:09.632
To me.

00:32:09.676 --> 00:32:11.207
This one hits softer, but then builds.

00:32:11.207 --> 00:32:11.297
Mm-hmm.

00:32:12.826 --> 00:32:13.666
Oh, okay.

00:32:14.176 --> 00:32:14.567
You're not.

00:32:15.826 --> 00:32:27.047
It doesn't seem spicy right on the tongue, but now like coming back around the corner, like it literally produced like twin drops of sweat down my face, like seconds after eating it.

00:32:28.037 --> 00:32:32.356
So you're gonna tell me in the future, I'll, I'll understand how Jack s slid.

00:32:32.446 --> 00:32:34.037
You're not, you're not feeling it yet.

00:32:34.096 --> 00:32:36.317
Jack Sled hasn't presented himself much yet.

00:32:37.051 --> 00:32:37.412
Okay.

00:32:37.711 --> 00:32:42.362
For me, it like, it takes a little bit and then it kind of builds from, from the back of the throat up.

00:32:42.362 --> 00:32:48.481
But different people have different spice receptors, you know, so you never really quite know how you're gonna,

00:32:49.051 --> 00:32:51.182
it's like, it's like warm in my face, I think.

00:32:51.182 --> 00:32:51.481
Okay.

00:32:51.481 --> 00:32:54.271
But like, it's not like, yeah.

00:32:54.271 --> 00:32:55.352
I almost feel like the

00:32:55.352 --> 00:33:00.902
room two 17 could be the last one be partly because it hangs a lot better.

00:33:00.906 --> 00:33:01.096
I mean, if

00:33:01.102 --> 00:33:03.961
I, if I've got a favorite it's, it's the two 17.

00:33:04.082 --> 00:33:04.382
Okay.

00:33:04.862 --> 00:33:05.251
I like it.

00:33:06.017 --> 00:33:10.156
Um, the last question is from the Local Experience podcast.

00:33:10.156 --> 00:33:12.616
It's, uh, my last question of all of our guests.

00:33:13.366 --> 00:33:18.707
Um, and that is what's the craziest story from your lifetime that you're willing to share with our listeners?

00:33:22.757 --> 00:33:23.116
Okay.

00:33:24.376 --> 00:33:25.366
Oh, this is a good one.

00:33:25.517 --> 00:33:29.626
And this touches on a question that a guy from out of town asked me.

00:33:30.047 --> 00:33:33.467
He asked me what's the best place to go camping?

00:33:33.527 --> 00:33:34.156
Not like.

00:33:34.622 --> 00:33:37.741
The mass production spots the little secret spot.

00:33:37.771 --> 00:33:38.102
Okay.

00:33:40.051 --> 00:33:44.852
Me and the guys used to glove going up to Ansel watch on Pooter Canyon.

00:33:44.912 --> 00:33:45.211
Mm-hmm.

00:33:47.582 --> 00:33:47.852
Yeah.

00:33:48.241 --> 00:33:48.662
Okay.

00:33:48.842 --> 00:33:49.291
And

00:33:49.771 --> 00:33:52.652
it's just a, a hop skipping a jump from Mishawaka too.

00:33:53.596 --> 00:33:54.416
That's true.

00:33:54.957 --> 00:33:55.457
That's true.

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And so.

00:33:59.057 --> 00:34:10.246
We were definitely feeling the moment, we were definitely looking out into space and seeing not just the stars, but imagining the planets around them.

00:34:10.246 --> 00:34:12.467
It was one of those kind of camping trips.

00:34:12.496 --> 00:34:12.677
Yeah.

00:34:13.007 --> 00:34:18.976
So we decided we're gonna climb this tree.

00:34:19.516 --> 00:34:20.206
Oh, okay.

00:34:20.746 --> 00:34:22.786
This tree is like 70.

00:34:23.507 --> 00:34:24.226
Feet tall.

00:34:24.226 --> 00:34:25.367
At least Like a

00:34:25.367 --> 00:34:26.657
big, big pine tree.

00:34:26.717 --> 00:34:27.347
Yeah.

00:34:27.376 --> 00:34:27.947
Oh, dang.

00:34:28.007 --> 00:34:35.356
Yeah, so, so, but some of'em are pretty easy to climb'cause they got these big handy branches, except for you get scratched up along the way.

00:34:35.356 --> 00:34:35.927
But there's,

00:34:35.987 --> 00:34:37.786
well, that was, that was what it was.

00:34:38.027 --> 00:34:46.757
There was, there was a easy ascent and then I get up there and I'm like, I'm 70 feet off the ground.

00:34:46.757 --> 00:34:48.106
The descent was less easy.

00:34:48.407 --> 00:34:48.887
It was.

00:34:50.086 --> 00:34:57.737
I was definitely careful about the descent, and I got down and I was like, yes, kiss the ground.

00:34:58.246 --> 00:35:01.007
And Tom's like,

00:35:01.097 --> 00:35:02.297
did you all climb up to the top?

00:35:02.777 --> 00:35:03.257
Pretty much,

00:35:03.376 --> 00:35:03.797
yeah.

00:35:03.976 --> 00:35:04.396
Yeah.

00:35:04.577 --> 00:35:07.726
And then I get down and Tom's like, what do you want a medal?

00:35:07.726 --> 00:35:10.427
And I'm like, uh, yeah, actually I do.

00:35:10.606 --> 00:35:14.806
So, so he gave, gave me these two little plastic dinosaurs.

00:35:17.717 --> 00:35:18.072
I like it.

00:35:19.231 --> 00:35:24.632
May you, uh, climb more trees in your future?

00:35:24.692 --> 00:35:25.291
Probably not.

00:35:25.411 --> 00:35:26.851
It's like the cat that climbed it once.

00:35:26.851 --> 00:35:27.842
He doesn't wanna do it again.

00:35:28.862 --> 00:35:29.282
I don't know.

00:35:29.282 --> 00:35:31.831
I'm ambivalent If it, there's a, if the moment

00:35:31.831 --> 00:35:32.672
strikes you right?

00:35:32.702 --> 00:35:33.001
Yeah.

00:35:33.001 --> 00:35:36.271
If there's an inspiration or need, I might be up a tree again.

00:35:36.692 --> 00:35:36.871
Okay.

00:35:37.291 --> 00:35:38.282
Especially if there's a kitten

00:35:39.722 --> 00:35:40.231
to go rescue.

00:35:40.231 --> 00:35:41.041
Oh my gosh.

00:35:41.492 --> 00:35:44.132
If there was a kitten to go rescue, forget about it.

00:35:44.192 --> 00:35:44.222
Oh.

00:35:45.047 --> 00:35:45.916
Yeah, definitely.

00:35:45.976 --> 00:35:46.516
Okay.

00:35:46.606 --> 00:35:48.016
I was gonna say I hate cats.

00:35:48.226 --> 00:35:48.436
No.

00:35:49.217 --> 00:35:49.786
Oh my gosh.

00:35:49.786 --> 00:35:50.867
I didn't know what you were gonna say.

00:35:50.867 --> 00:35:51.646
I'm, I'm a cat dad.

00:35:51.646 --> 00:35:52.092
I didn't know.

00:35:52.572 --> 00:36:01.067
I CDOs at home waiting for me and he is the sweetest cat and he's gonna give me head boobs and he's going to meow a lot.

00:36:01.516 --> 00:36:01.876
I like it.

00:36:02.447 --> 00:36:04.246
You can bring him some chicken nuggets home if you want to.

00:36:05.056 --> 00:36:05.896
That could be a plan.

00:36:05.896 --> 00:36:07.157
I think he'd appreciate that.

00:36:07.456 --> 00:36:08.717
Adam, thanks for spending time today.

00:36:09.286 --> 00:36:10.036
Good luck in November.

00:36:10.217 --> 00:36:10.487
Alright,

00:36:10.847 --> 00:36:11.237
got speed.