Oct. 13, 2025

BONUS EPISODE - #5 Hot Nugs Conversation with Emily Francis for Mayor of the City of Fort Collins

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Season 5

Emily Francis is a candidate for Fort Collins Mayor, and joined me for the fifth episode of our Hot Nugs Conversations - a collaboration between LoCo Think Tank, Matador Mexican Grill, Old Town Spice Shop, and The LoCo Experience Podcast.  

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Emily Francis is a candidate for Fort Collins Mayor.

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And join me for the fifth episode of our Hot Nugs Conversations, A collaboration between Loco Think Tank Matador Mexican Grill, old Town Spice Shop, and the Loco Experience Podcast.

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Please visit www.emilyforfc.com to learn more about our platform and make sure to vote by or before November 4th, 2025.

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Welcome back to the Loco Experience Podcast.

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My guest today is Emily Francis and she is the Mayor Pot in Fort Collins Pot.

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Tem Pot.

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Uh, she is a council member for District six and she is also my final guest in the Hot NS conversation series, uh, with a very custom.

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Menu compared to the other candidates.

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Yes.

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Thank you for accommodating.

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'cause

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you're allergic to everything.

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I am allergic to everything.

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Just about everything.

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And you have a wonderful, uh, onesie pants suit kind of thing on.

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I really enjoy that.

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Thank you.

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I have to say, you might be the best dressed so far.

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I'll take it.

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Uh, just edgy out, Adam.

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Oh, I, it's a tough

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competition out there for the seven of us.

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Um, well, what I start with everybody so far is really like a two minute, hi, I'm Emily and this is a little bit about me and this is kind of why I would wanna be your mayor.

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Okay, great.

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Yeah, I feel like I at this point should be able to, you know, off the top of my head, but I think every time it's different.

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So,

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well, it's a format, you know, I know it's a different format,

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so.

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So, yes, I'm Emily Francis.

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I'm running for mayor, uh, this November.

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And just a little bit about me.

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I was born and raised here in Fort Collins.

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Um, I am the one of three Lampkins gr uh, running for mayor, I believe Scotty D Right.

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And Adam are also for, for high school graduates, but I'm the only one Who was which?

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Adam?

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Born here.

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Adam Eggleston.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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So, you know, we beat out Jenny'cause she's an Impala, but

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Scotty v was, uh, Sean Godby from Old Town Spice Shop's history teacher when he was a senior.

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You know, Fort Collins is a small town.

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'cause Susan Gutowski at one point was my teacher.

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Is that right?

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It just continues to get small.

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And my sister went to high school, Scotty V So it, it just, he's probably easy to remember.

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Yeah.

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This is the beauty of Fort Collins, you know.

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Um, so, and, and so I did, I grew up in Fort Collins.

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I feel like when you grow up in Fort Collins, you have to say where you went to school, which is Laurel Lusher and Fort Collins High School.

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Okay.

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And I also graduated from CSU, uh, and then I in natural resources.

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Okay.

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So I have a bachelor in natural resources.

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Alright.

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Yeah.

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And I actually worked for the city for a little bit in their, uh, at that time it was FC Moves.

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Uh, well now it's FC Moves and their bike department.

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Oh sure.

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And I did bike to work day and, uh, getting kids on bikes and Oh, cool.

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Improvements and things like that.

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And really fell in love with more of the built environment and community and went to get my master's in public health and at Portland State University.

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Okay.

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I.

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Now say nobody really knew what public health was until 2019.

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Now a lot of people know what public health is.

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Well,

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2019 or 2020.

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Well, 2019 is when the pandemic actually started.

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Well, sure, yeah.

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But nobody really heard much about it until really about it.

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January.

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So, uh, so 2020, yes.

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Uh, now more people know what public health is.

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I don't work on the, uh, the disease side.

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I work in the community side.

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Community health, like

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communications wise and stuff.

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No.

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I actually work with communities on how do you address health disparities and what are the root causes of differences in people's quality of life and length of life.

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And these are really boiled down to what they call social determinants of health, which is access to education, healthcare, your built environment, housing, things like that.

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That all pretty much determines Yeah.

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Your quality of life.

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Well, I think, and curiosity about health.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Like,'cause if you just listen to your doctor, that doesn't mean you're gonna be healthy.

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No.

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Like, you better work on an active lifestyle and some diet and a whole bunch of stuff in addition to that.

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Yeah.

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But public health really gets down to the root of why can some people access healthy foods?

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Yeah.

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Why are some people able, you know, a lot of it has to do with income.

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Your, yeah.

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The environment around you.

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How conducive is it?

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Well, just awareness even.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And it is, it's a burden to cook with fresh foods.

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It compared to cooking processed.

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Well you have to know

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how, so you have to have somebody who probably taught you at one point.

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So I was on the board for the Matthews house for a time.

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Oh, okay.

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And they would

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do, uh, zoom book classes mm-hmm.

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And stuff.

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Mm-hmm.

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But it would also open doors, uh, uh, to just what is a healthy lifestyle.

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Yeah.

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You know, and,'cause I'm from North Dakota where, you know, everybody's heavy.

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It is.

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Yeah.

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You know, and it's a different culture and Right.

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Different.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But if you wanna bend that a little bit bit, you

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gotta start with a.

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What's public health look like?

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Yeah.

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Alright.

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Yeah.

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So that's what I got my master's in.

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Okay.

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And, uh, came back to Fort Collins.

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Sorry, I'm stretching out past two minutes, but it's my fault.

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Okay.

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As long as I get the full time.

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Okay.

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But, you know, I moved back to Fort Collins and, you know, as a, as a kid in Fort Collins when it was smaller and still today, I think Fort Collins really raised me and, uh, I really wanted to give back to the community.

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I, and so I have worked mainly in public service.

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So I did Meals on Wheels and senior nutrition programs.

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Okay.

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And then I moved into community organizing with mobile home park residents on how do you just wanna create a better quality of life.

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And a lot of that focused on preservation protection in mobile home parks.

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Sure.

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And this has really, really got into local government.

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I started working with, um, county commissioners and the city council at the time, and really was a liaison between how do you work with residents who maybe in their home country interacting with the government wasn't safe.

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And then how do you work with elected officials on working with people, um, who don't know how to navigate the system.

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Okay.

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And so did a lot of bridge building, worked a lot with, um,

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and that's what path to City Council came from that really?

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Yeah.

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So

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I ran in, in 2019 and got elected, uh, for the first time.

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I was the first millennial elected.

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Okay.

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The first, the youngest, uh, person elected since, uh, the eighties.

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And then, um, you know, I've always really focused on how do we make sure that every resident in Fort Collins has access to a good quality of life.

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And you can just see the disparities in town.

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You can see that people have different access.

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You can see that people are struggling with different things.

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And at the time, city Council, in my opinion, wasn't really focused a lot on that.

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And so that's why I have led a lot with things like housing, um, housing affordability, affordability in general.

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Supporting the working class has always kind of been my, my focus on city council.

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Uh, and then I was elected as mayor pro tem in 2021, and that's elected by city Council.

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Okay.

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And that's kind of, there's kind of two roles to Mayor pro tem.

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One is I fill in for the mayor when they're out of town, so I'm acting mayor when they're not here.

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I run meetings, I step in and Okay.

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I also attend every single leadership meeting with the mayor.

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And the city management and planning agenda, things like this.

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So always really closely aligned.

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Kinda their second set of eyes almost.

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Yeah.

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And then I'm also there to represent council, right?

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Sure.

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So I work with council members and I, the mayor's representing the city.

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Don't let the mayor get away from Yeah.

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Anything shady.

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Well, she's representing the city.

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I'm representing council.

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Uh, and so I was elected, uh, 2021, and then I was reelected to city.

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I hijack, I was reelected to city council in 2023.

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Okay.

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And reelected as mayor pro Tegan

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in 2023.

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And then, but the why part I haven't heard you.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Well, you know,

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we took up the time with the public health, but the why is, so, the why is, you know, there's, there's the part that I've done the job and I know what the job entails and I feel like I have been in the role.

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And part of that is, you know, the mayor is one of seven.

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And they don't have any more voting power than anyone else on city council.

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You can't do anything without three other council members supporting you.

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Right.

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It's not, there's a, I think sometimes a misperception that the mayor can have initiatives and do these things.

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That's not how for, cause government works.

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Yeah.

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But they are the figurehead.

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Right.

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And their words do carry more weight.

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Right.

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Even though if they're one of seven

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Yeah.

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Even if they're one of the opposing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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And so why for me is, you know, I've done the job, I've, I've been in, uh, that role before and I just feel like we're at a really critical point in Fort Collins.

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We are moving from a large town to a small city.

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We have these really big issues that we're, that we're struggling with between growth and development, but maintaining our character.

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We have limited resources now we have limited dollars.

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And I think it's one really important to have continuity.

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In that leadership.

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And then two, I really feel like from being Fort Collins, from understanding and being working class for most of my life and, and when people talk about housing affordability and affordability in general, it's really important to have someone who has had those lived experiences and can bring that into office and feel like they're representing Fort Collins when they're stepping in as mayor.

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Alright.

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Yeah.

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Thanks.

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Our chicken's probably getting a little bit cold.

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That's true.

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Sorry.

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But it's okay.

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Our first, uh, so how we're gonna do this, by the way, and you get to choose your favorite from among these I'm

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so excited.

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Uh, blends.

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Okay.

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Um, but we're going to sample it.

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Mm-hmm.

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Then we're gonna talk about it.

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Okay.

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And then I'll ask the first question.

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Okay.

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This is great.

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And you can just swing that microphone out to like reach and grab your thing.

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Okay.

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Oh, and Ava, will you bring us some napkins when you bring the next, uh, sample in please.

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Sorry, we forgot.

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So this is salt, pepper, garlic.

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Alright.

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Just SSPG.

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It's just the basic SPG.

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Yes.

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Mm-hmm.

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I totally need to put that on my shelf.

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Like just have a spot for it for that.

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You know, there's something about real, really good salt and pepper.

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Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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Well, in the salt with a coarseness that you can actually mm-hmm.

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Catch mm-hmm.

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From time to time.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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It's got crunch.

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Whether,

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whether you're dipping, you probably don't eat steak or I do eat steak.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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You dip it in a coarse salt sometimes.

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Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm.

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When it's just so nice.

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Mm-hmm.

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It does.

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It's good.

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I mean, chicken okay too.

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Mm-hmm.

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Just

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quick chicken, by the way.

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Mm-hmm.

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Alright,

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so tasting notes on the SPG.

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Mm-hmm.

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I presume this is from Old Town Spice Shop.

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Yeah.

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Most of this stuff is, mm-hmm.

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The guys were sharing the responsibility before, but it's with the sauces.

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Uh.

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Do you, do you keep an sb PG on your shelf?

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You know, I'm just an old school.

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Like they're separate.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know, we're not mixed together.

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You put those three on things sometimes.

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Yep.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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But, um, you know, I do have, I do like the flaky salt, so I like the crunch.

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Yeah.

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And, um,

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what would you use that on in your kitchen?

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Mm.

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I mean, I feel like you can use that in everything.

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Yeah.

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'cause it's like a holy trifecta.

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Something that I had in the drawer.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah.

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And it's already pre-made.

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Yeah.

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Probably in the right ratio.

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'cause I can't get those ratios Right.

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To save my life, but, um, fair enough.

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I like it.

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My first question is from James Merley with Story Path Creative and he said, what's your fondest story to share about the people, our community in Fort Collins?

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This fondest story Yes.

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About people in Fort Collins.

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I'm, I'm gonna, I know you sent these to me, but I, you know

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Yeah.

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I like that you come in fresh.

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I always do.

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Yeah.

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Um, you know, for me.

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Uh, and I don't remember if this is a question later on about what makes, what's my favorite thing about Fort Collins, but it is the people.

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And so when I think about the fondest story, it's hard because I just think Fort Collins is full of great people.

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Okay.

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And no matter how much we're growing or changing, to me the heart of the community is, it has always been there.

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Yeah.

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And it's just because the people are great, just like we were talking about earlier.

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I mean, like how many connections there are, how it's still a small town in so many ways.

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Yeah.

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How people are full of kindness.

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And, um,

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would you like to name two people that you don't like?

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No.

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Would you, would you like to name two people that you especially like or have a story about?

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Well, so I'll tell, I, I've told this story before and, but, um, I'll, I'll tell it again because it's one of my favorite.

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Memories of growing up in Fort Collins is, uh, I grew up for a while in what is now the natural resources building for the city out on Hoffman Mill Road.

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It's kind of off the bike trail.

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Oh yeah.

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It's a white house with green.

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And so I lived there until the city bought it and, uh, interesting.

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Relocated me.

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No.

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Yeah.

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Um, so I grew up there.

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Yeah.

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Folks probably in a pretty penny.

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Well, we, we were renters, um, but Oh, I see.

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Gotcha.

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And, uh, you know, it was, it was just a great experience living there.

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'cause the ponds are there, there've ever been ponds over there.

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And, um, but it was right next to the bike trail.

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And when I was a kid, uh, I had these aspirations to be a, a baker and have my own business and Okay.

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When I was a kid, I would haul down.

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A table and baked goods.

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Oh, to the bike path.

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Nice.

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Which I think now would be illegal, but in the time it was not.

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Whatever it shouldn't be.

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It

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shouldn't be.

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And had business cards had a catering menu,

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did you have specialty items like brownies were like a specialty item,

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you know, rice Krispy treats.

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Probably lemonade.

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Alright.

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Uh, you know, we had like, my cousin and I had the whole thing, business cards, catering.

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We were there for us.

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And

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did you move some product?

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It's really difficult to move products when people on a bike path.

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Okay.

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But here's where the wonderful people at Fort Colleges come in, right.

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Is one, it's, people would go, they just

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give you money and don't even take product, give money

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and not take things.

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Two is sometimes they would go home and then come back with money.

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Oh gosh.

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Because who wants like a brownie mid run and then what do you do with it?

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You know?

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So they'd come back.

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And then also, um, at the time it's where they trained, uh, the canine unit for the police.

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And those police officers would walk down and, and buy things and then bring it back.

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They'd probably best buy me out to make me feel better.

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But see that's the, you know,

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you had the cute advantage like.

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If that's true.

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If you imagine me as some ugly kid setting up a stand out there saying, Hey, got some big stuff, Uhhuh, they'd be like, yeah.

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Anyway.

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Yeah,

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yeah.

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Just kidding.

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So, um, you know, it's just like good job an inopportune time.

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Yeah.

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To have a treat.

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Well, it didn't sprout, uh, wings, so, no, that's sad.

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I know, but

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I'm sure you met a lot of interesting people.

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I

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did.

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Yeah.

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We're ready.

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What do we got here?

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Ranch.

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Oh, this is the ranch.

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The

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ranch classic.

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This is the classic ranch from, uh, Matador.

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Oh.

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I didn't know if it's Hidden Valley, but I think it's Matador.

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Yes.

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No, this is actually, uh oh.

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I'll take my floor.

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They, they make their own

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ranch.

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Thank you, Ava.

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Thank you.

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So we can taste first.

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Great.

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And then I'll go into question two.

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So I'm from North Dakota mm-hmm.

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As I mentioned, and.

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In North Dakota, everything gets dipped in ranch.

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Pretty much.

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So now I know, I wanna know your tasting notes on how this ranch stacks up to a ranch expert.

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I mean, it's pretty much a specimen ranch.

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I don't know, like isn't there really just kind of one recipe?

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I apparently not.

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Do you think, I mean, like, I assume there's different qualities of like buttermilk and Yes.

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And, and cracked black pepper or whatever other ingredients.

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Also the consistency, right?

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Thicker run.

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Yeah.

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Yep, yep.

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Yeah.

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Um, but mostly the flavor of ranch is the flavor of ranch.

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It's, it,

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although it would be interesting, we could do a whole show on like Wishbone Ranch versus you could do a whole taste testing of different, you know, like five different ranches.

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Yes,

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yes.

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God, that would be boring as hell.

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I don't know.

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I had a friend doing a, a, a taste testing for, um.

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They're opening a, a bar and they wanted to have coffee on coffee just in case we did a taste testing on instant coffees.

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Yeah.

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After 12 instant coffees, I mean, one that's hard to taste.

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12, 12 different instant coffees.

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The, uh, the Starbucks Viva, mm-hmm.

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Whatever.

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Mm-hmm.

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Is pretty solid.

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Well, the, I can tell you the one that won, which is, which was Mount Hagen.

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Okay.

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And then the 365 Whole Foods was second.

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And do they sell it in like a big container?

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Mm-hmm.

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So you just put a scoop in there and do it?

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Yeah.

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Maybe we should do that for our camping more instead of like, it's great opportunity instead like screwing around with like a Spanish coffee maker or a French press or whatever you to Well that one you can also

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dissolve in cold.

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So you can make cold coffee.

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Oh, nice.

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It's key.

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Yeah.

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What was it again?

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Mount Hagen, I think.

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Mount

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Hagen?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Mm-hmm.

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Mount Hagen.

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If you'd like to sponsor this episode of the Local Experience Podcast, please contact me, um, from Paul Michelson of Matador Mexican Grill.

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Mm-hmm.

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What is your plan to help support small businesses to start and grow in Northern Colorado?

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Oh, this is a great question and I think one that the city has much opportunity, uh, space that we can to do better, to do better.

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Okay.

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Oh yeah, sorry.

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Yeah.

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Thank you for catching my, I was like on a different thought path.

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I was like, not finishing that sentence.

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You actually, I, it was me actually like, you know, it's hard.

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I mean, putting words on the table.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, you meant to just leave off the table.

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Yeah.

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I mean, we announced city council for six years.

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It's sometimes hard to say.

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The city can do, you know?

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Well, and

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can the city do better?

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Like, oh yeah.

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I think so.

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Yeah.

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What, what would you, you know, what would you have them do?

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I think, you

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know, just talking to small business owners, it is so difficult to open a business.

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Yeah.

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It's confusing.

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It, there's so many regulations and, you know, the, the development review process, the hoops you have to jump through, just navigating it, I think is really difficult as somebody who just wants to come in.

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Your neighbor, you know, mom and pop are just like, I just wanna do this thing.

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You're like, it's not that easy.

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I'm

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leasing this space.

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It was a restaurant before.

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Yeah.

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What do I have to do to make it my restaurant now I store

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and I'm gonna have to pay$112,000 for a tap fee.

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Like, okay.

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You know, like, so these things that we really need to look at of what barriers are we putting up?

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Okay.

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Why are we making it so complicated?

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Why is it take so long and why is it so expensive for someone to just go through the process?

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Yeah.

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And then just, and and why do you

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think?

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I think it's just best intentions around over time.

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Yeah.

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Of, you know, we create rules for a reason.

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Something happened, we add a new one, and then over time you money, it takes all this

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enforcement mechanism and stuff like that.

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And then so many approvals and there's so many different departments involved and you know, we just kind of need to get back to simplicity and the basics.

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So do you slot in on the more kind of libertine side when it comes to business especially?

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Mm.

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Tell me what you mean by that.

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Like, I could do kinda what I want as long as I don't hurt anybody.

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No, no, no,

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no.

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Not that far.

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Okay.

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You know, but we don't need so many rules and regulations.

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Gotcha.

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So some, yeah.

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Still need liquor licenses.

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Oh yeah.

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We still need the health and safety.

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Food service.

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Food inspections are good.

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Yeah.

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Let's, let's go with health and safety as baseline for these things.

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But I agree actually that somebody said that on a podcast I was listening to recently about.

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Health and safety being kind of first and foremost.

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Mm-hmm.

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And public safety and stuff.

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And then if we've still got revenues, then we can focus on some of these beautiful places and Yeah.

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Other services and stuff, but yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, our, our sales tax in the city is declining.

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Yeah.

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We're, we're gonna, we are going to have to look at, well,

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without all these development fees though, how are we gonna balance the budget?

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Well, development fees, fees only pay for certain things.

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Right.

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They do not fix our budget problems.

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Uh, and so development review fees are part of it.

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And just'cause you're a new business doesn't mean you go through development review.

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Right.

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Usually you can't afford it for years.

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Exactly.

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You start a business in a rent space, it's gonna take you years to figure out how to years through, through development years.

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Maybe later you can buy a building or build something

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Uhhuh.

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Yeah.

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And by then fees will have gone up

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a lot.

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Mm-hmm.

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Fair.

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Um, I think we're ready for number three.

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Asu.

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Are you guys ready for us?

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And we can put our empties right in there.

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Thank you.

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This is the chicken and guacamole, the

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guacamole, sands tomato sauce, sands tomato.

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Yes.

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So, oh, you'd be chicken with avocado.

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You'd

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be terrified.

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In my household, I, I currently have about the area of half of that table, uh, covered in tomatoes.

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Mm-hmm.

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On my kitchen countertops.

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Mm-hmm.

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Because my tomato harvest has been tremendous.

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That's awesome.

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I've got tomatoes.

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Very happy for you bursting out of my ears.

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Um, and I've eaten so many.

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This is great.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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What would happen if you ate a tomato?

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Oh, I just, uh,

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like a whole one, like a big old, bigger than my fist.

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I would not be able to move my hands tomorrow.

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Really?

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It

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would just be red.

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It'd be really achy.

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Okay.

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I would like you get like such, I want to, you know, I have trouble formulated senses as it is and noticed it gets more difficult when you have to finish half my sentence for me.

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No, I just do that.

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I'm rude that way.

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Uh,

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I think I had, but it means I'm listening.

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Yeah,

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that's true.

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That's true.

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Um, thank you for being kind.

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Um, let's see what you think about this.

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Guacamole.

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Sounds, sounds, tomato.

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Are you gonna also try the Yes, I will.

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Okay.

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I

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love

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guacamole

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guys.

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Oh yeah.

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You know, my partner's allergic to avocado, so.

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Oh,

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that's sad.

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It

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is a sad for him, but a win for me.

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But wouldn't you eat more avocado overall if he liked to?

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Well, I don't have to share any avocados with him.

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That's fair.

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Yeah.

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I'm, as I said, from North Dakota, but my mom grew up in California.

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Mm.

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Mm-hmm.

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So she brought back a love for avocados.

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Mm-hmm.

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So we were like some of the only avocado eaten people in the county.

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Did they

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just bring in the avocado, the grocery store just for you?

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No, they would get'em here and there and buy'em, like, buy four of'em and put'em in the fridge.

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We eat up until they were like, well they wouldn't, they would just go right away.

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Like they would always get in right away.

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So it didn't matter.

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I've heard, and I've never done it, that if you put a ripe avocado and a glass of water, then it keeps it from ripening more.

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Hmm.

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So I'll have to try it out.

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Seems reasonable.

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Mm-hmm.

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I mean, it wouldn't allow any further oxidization.

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That's true.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, so what would you like to say about that guacamole?

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I mean, those avocados are people peak ripeness

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perfect.

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Don't you think?

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Yeah.

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They're full flavor.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Sometimes you get the avocado Mm.

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And it's not, it's not Right.

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And then you can't do anything about it.

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Yeah.

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It's kind of sad when you're like.

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I, I, I put avocados in my salads mostly, probably.

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Mm-hmm.

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And so you, you peel it and everything seems fine and then you cut it and you're like, Ooh, it's too crispy.

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Yeah.

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It's not gonna taste very, there's

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no going back after that.

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Yeah.

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I just throw it in there anyway.

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It's not gonna hurt you.

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No, no.

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But you know, it's just not as good.

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It's

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not as good as it could have been.

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So from, uh, mayor Emeritus Wade Troxel mm-hmm.

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Fort Collins has been described as the Choice city of Colorado and is known for beers, bikes, and bands and more.

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What is your vision for the evolving brand of Fort Collins and what might 30 years from now we be known for?

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Well, I don't think I'm ever gonna be as catchy as beer bikes and bands, so I don't have a name for it, but I can, I can tell you what I think about.

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Yeah.

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'cause I'm not gonna have a name, uh, a cool name.

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But, um, what I think about is I want Fort Collins to be a place of opportunity.

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And by that I mean, you know.

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We just talked about small businesses.

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Yeah.

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How hard it is.

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Totally hear about affordable housing and how difficult it is for people to stay in Fort Collins and live here.

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And what if we were a place where people could afford to live here?

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What if people could move here and do what they dream of?

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What if people were like, I can go to Fort Collins and I can live my best life.

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And I just think that's what I think about.

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I think, you know, the more and more people I talk to people, you know, through campaign events or city council, door knocking, people are having a hard time.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Weather for sure.

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I mean, it was, yeah.

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When I moved here in 99 Yeah.

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My rent doubled and my salary went up A pittance.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And that opportunity gets, and the thing is, when we don't have a lot of expendable income and we're spending it all on housing or childcare or, you know, the rising cost of goods, uh, people more and more are just so worried about how they're gonna, so

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how do you, how do you, how do you fix that though?

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Yeah.

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I think it's good.

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You've

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been studying, it sounds like, for a while.

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Yeah.

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It's your focus area.

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But do you have.

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Solutions.

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I mean, I think what's one is hard is what can you do in a municipality?

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And I think that's really where we have to focus on.

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And I think one is, uh, what, like we talked about with small businesses, how do we make things easier and simpler?

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Yeah.

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We've built up so many processes.

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Simplify, let's simplify, let's deregulate, deregulate to a certain point.

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Um, you know, also like, why don't we take the perspective of the customer, the residents are the city's customers.

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Let's, like, we need, we need to be more customer friendly and more customer oriented and not so regulatory focused.

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While health, safety and public safety is important, you know, we really have to think about how are we serving the residents of Fort Collins and how do we maintain the things that we have built?

00:24:29.325 --> 00:24:36.704
Uh, but we, you know, we can do things to make housing easier to build, to meet the needs of our residents.

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Uh, where, when it comes to, I mean, one of the

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costs of housing.

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Inflation is like all the, you gotta insulate it this much.

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Mm-hmm.

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All these kind of things.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, you know, build, put this many trees in when you replace the

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Yep.

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Yep.

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But like, well, and, but

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do you not want those things though?

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No.

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We all want those things, but I think what happens is when you become world class and everything

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Yeah.

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They're all,

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there's a price to pay.

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There's a price to pay.

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Yeah.

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And then they compete.

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How do you have world class tree policy and world class solar panels?

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Right.

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How do you have, and and then also a water efficiency plan.

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You know, there are competing interests that we're talking about.

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Yeah.

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And so I think for Collins is getting to a place where we're gonna have to have really hard conversations about what do we wanna prioritize, where do we wanna go?

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We can build the most sustainable city who's, who's gonna live here?

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Who's gonna be able to afford it?

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That's a different city than we're, than we're thinking about.

00:25:27.914 --> 00:25:30.404
That's such a great, I live in Old Town and actually.

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I could put solar panels on my place now because I, I cut some cottonwoods out so that I could build a property and I had to get permission on that.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know?

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, but now I could have solar.

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Mm-hmm.

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Which is nice, but also, like my whole side of the block on my street is warmer now.

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Yeah.

00:25:47.865 --> 00:25:52.694
Like all me and all my neighbors are warmer for having cut down those big ass old cottonwoods, you know?

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But at least they didn't follow anybody.

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It's a tradeoff.

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That's important, but I feel like I should be the decider.

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Yeah.

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Top to bottom.

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Like, I shouldn't have to ask my city's permission to cut down a tree on my property,

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and that's where we may be going.

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Yeah.

00:26:03.734 --> 00:26:04.065
Yeah.

00:26:04.095 --> 00:26:08.924
So I think it, you know, it's these, it's, we get really complicated in these tradeoffs and I think on one off.

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We all think that sounds good.

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Of course we want a tree policy where we're thinking about our canopy and we're thinking about cooling and we're thinking about tree.

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We're tree city USA.

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Sure.

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And and then we go over and we say, oh, of course we want to move to an electric grid and we want everyone to have access to solar panels.

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A hundred percent.

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But when you keep looking at these things in silos, you're never looking at the big picture.

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And that's where we're getting into trouble.

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So, uh, so maybe it's like looking at the big picture is our theme.

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Uh, yeah.

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Something ish.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, I Big pictures.

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Awesome.

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It is big pictures are awesome.

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Someone has to think about the big picture.

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The future look bright.

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Yeah, look bright.

00:26:48.869 --> 00:26:48.990
Yeah.

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What are we doing now?

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I think it's the third one there I think.

00:26:53.430 --> 00:26:54.450
Or this next one here.

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This is pesto Parmesan olive oil dip.

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Oh.

00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:04.710
So this is another old tone spice shop offering.

00:27:08.390 --> 00:27:11.714
I, I was surprised they didn't go with a wasabi or horseradish.

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I

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know.

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I kind of was too.

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I think just isn't something that they really carry or have access to normally.

00:27:22.125 --> 00:27:22.365
Mm.

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Mm-hmm.

00:27:23.414 --> 00:27:23.505
Mm-hmm

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mm.

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It's got the nice coness again.

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Mm-hmm.

00:27:30.299 --> 00:27:30.339
Yes.

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Of the spice.

00:27:31.275 --> 00:27:31.634
Yes.

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What's in this one?

00:27:39.075 --> 00:27:41.174
Well, it says pesto Parmesan olive oil dip.

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If you want more information than that, you're gonna have to read it.

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'cause I don't, I'm too, I can't, I don't have eyes that do that kind of stuff anymore.

00:27:50.204 --> 00:27:53.265
Well, as the name says, it does have Parmesan cheese.

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Basil, garlic and salt.

00:27:55.289 --> 00:27:55.440
Hmm.

00:27:56.460 --> 00:27:56.970
Pretty simple

00:27:57.089 --> 00:27:58.289
as the pesto Parmesan.

00:27:58.505 --> 00:27:58.724
Yes.

00:27:58.984 --> 00:28:01.045
Dip basil, Parmesan.

00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:02.970
Do you make homemade pesto?

00:28:03.089 --> 00:28:03.869
I sometimes do.

00:28:04.049 --> 00:28:04.349
Yeah.

00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:05.579
I made a few batches this year.

00:28:05.579 --> 00:28:08.069
My basil wasn't as productive as last year.

00:28:08.369 --> 00:28:08.460
Mm-hmm.

00:28:08.461 --> 00:28:09.180
But it was still pretty good.

00:28:09.329 --> 00:28:09.420
Mm-hmm.

00:28:10.589 --> 00:28:14.640
Um, but I've become a pesto believer.

00:28:14.910 --> 00:28:15.690
Were you not before?

00:28:16.529 --> 00:28:17.039
No.

00:28:17.130 --> 00:28:17.369
Wow.

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I don't know why.

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Mostly just because they usually put pesto in with like.

00:28:24.734 --> 00:28:26.265
Chicken or shrimp.

00:28:26.444 --> 00:28:26.744
Mm-hmm.

00:28:26.865 --> 00:28:28.305
And a lot of times I want some beef,

00:28:28.994 --> 00:28:30.825
but you can have pesto on beef.

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I could, I suppose.

00:28:32.144 --> 00:28:32.204
Yeah.

00:28:32.204 --> 00:28:38.775
It seems kind of weird, but I'm gonna actually make a, uh, like a multilayer lasagna.

00:28:38.775 --> 00:28:40.065
We have an Italian exchange student.

00:28:40.484 --> 00:28:40.575
Mm-hmm.

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And I want do an lasagna with one layer of just pesto.

00:28:45.045 --> 00:28:45.285
Yeah.

00:28:45.555 --> 00:28:49.214
Uh, but also a layer of meat sauce, so it's like red and green fight kind of thing.

00:28:49.214 --> 00:28:49.365
There

00:28:49.365 --> 00:28:49.664
you go.

00:28:50.025 --> 00:28:50.505
Should be fun.

00:28:50.865 --> 00:28:52.484
I, I've been into lasagna lately

00:28:53.115 --> 00:28:57.644
and I made the last one with, uh, zucchini as instead of pasta noodles, but

00:28:57.674 --> 00:28:57.765
mm-hmm.

00:28:58.545 --> 00:29:02.325
I heard recently well do that for one layer, but then used pasta noodles too.

00:29:02.355 --> 00:29:04.660
'cause then a pasta will suck up all that extra I was gonna ask.

00:29:04.664 --> 00:29:04.724
Yeah.

00:29:04.724 --> 00:29:05.835
Moisture from the zucchini.

00:29:05.954 --> 00:29:09.704
I salted them first and missed them, but it's still hard to get enough moisture outta those.

00:29:09.704 --> 00:29:12.704
It's, it's so, um, so I'm gonna use that advice next time.

00:29:12.734 --> 00:29:12.944
Yeah.

00:29:13.065 --> 00:29:13.904
Sounds like you cook a lot.

00:29:14.625 --> 00:29:15.105
I do.

00:29:15.105 --> 00:29:15.404
Yeah.

00:29:15.464 --> 00:29:15.825
Nice.

00:29:15.884 --> 00:29:16.365
I, uh.

00:29:17.085 --> 00:29:18.224
My wife is very pampered.

00:29:18.404 --> 00:29:18.615
Yeah.

00:29:19.845 --> 00:29:20.204
Just kidding.

00:29:21.315 --> 00:29:21.944
Not good, Jill.

00:29:22.214 --> 00:29:22.605
It's true.

00:29:24.434 --> 00:29:30.884
Um, next question is from Sean Godby, old Town Spice Shop.

00:29:31.875 --> 00:29:33.494
Sorry, I got the hiccup of bumps for a moment.

00:29:33.944 --> 00:29:36.944
The proposal for paid on street parking in Fort Collins mm-hmm.

00:29:37.785 --> 00:29:40.394
Aims to address revenue and parking turnover.

00:29:40.484 --> 00:29:50.625
How do you plan to balance the city's need for revenue and parking management with the concerns of business owners and customers re regarding accessibility and affordability?

00:29:51.375 --> 00:29:51.434
Mm.

00:29:51.884 --> 00:29:52.275
Okay.

00:29:52.275 --> 00:29:52.904
Good question.

00:29:53.384 --> 00:29:55.305
We just talked about this city council.

00:29:55.394 --> 00:29:55.964
Not surprised.

00:29:55.964 --> 00:29:57.285
It's been probably a hot topic lately.

00:29:57.585 --> 00:29:57.825
Yeah.

00:29:57.884 --> 00:29:58.424
Yes and no.

00:29:58.424 --> 00:30:01.154
You know, we've been talking about it, I think for two years now.

00:30:01.335 --> 00:30:01.634
Okay.

00:30:01.845 --> 00:30:02.474
I mean, it's coming on.

00:30:02.474 --> 00:30:03.555
Oh, so it's not a new thing And city council?

00:30:03.884 --> 00:30:04.920
No, it's, I think it's just like,

00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:06.285
it feels like to a lot of the, yeah.

00:30:06.285 --> 00:30:07.095
Community is like,

00:30:07.275 --> 00:30:07.755
oh, what

00:30:07.755 --> 00:30:08.295
do you mean?

00:30:08.295 --> 00:30:11.204
We're talking about putting not free parking out there.

00:30:11.204 --> 00:30:11.444
I know.

00:30:11.444 --> 00:30:16.815
Surprisingly not everyone tunes into the hottest show in town on Tuesday nights, but Yes.

00:30:16.994 --> 00:30:17.265
Well, if

00:30:17.265 --> 00:30:21.855
stuff doesn't leak out necessarily either,'cause a lot of stuff gets talked about and then it never gets done.

00:30:21.884 --> 00:30:21.974
Yep.

00:30:21.974 --> 00:30:23.894
Just'cause it's the nature of government or it's government

00:30:23.894 --> 00:30:24.765
takes a long time.

00:30:24.825 --> 00:30:24.944
Yeah.

00:30:24.944 --> 00:30:25.335
You know?

00:30:25.755 --> 00:30:27.200
'cause I think it has been almost two years, but here we are.

00:30:27.494 --> 00:30:29.744
But now we're actually talking about how do we move forward?

00:30:29.835 --> 00:30:30.075
Yeah.

00:30:30.345 --> 00:30:35.025
So council's given direction to Yes, move forward with paid parking, but how are we gonna move forward?

00:30:35.085 --> 00:30:35.444
Oh really?

00:30:35.474 --> 00:30:39.555
Like, yes, we are doing paid parking, but then we haven't voted on it, but

00:30:39.555 --> 00:30:40.125
it's a yes.

00:30:40.125 --> 00:30:42.704
Like how do we create a plan around what this is going to look like?

00:30:42.734 --> 00:30:42.884
Okay.

00:30:43.095 --> 00:30:43.690
Because we think we

00:30:43.690 --> 00:30:44.355
should do this.

00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:44.519
Yeah.

00:30:44.865 --> 00:30:45.105
Yeah.

00:30:45.105 --> 00:30:46.724
The consultants said we should.

00:30:46.964 --> 00:30:52.575
Well, I mean, the consultants say your model's upside down, which you go to any other city and usually the.

00:30:53.025 --> 00:30:55.634
The street parking, premium parking is paid for.

00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:55.680
Right?

00:30:55.694 --> 00:30:55.904
Right.

00:30:55.904 --> 00:30:57.404
Garage is either free or discounted.

00:30:58.035 --> 00:31:02.799
Uh, and so we do have an upside down model and our garages are a dollar an hour, which is pretty cheap.

00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:03.134
Pretty deal.

00:31:03.315 --> 00:31:03.974
Great deals.

00:31:03.990 --> 00:31:04.755
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:04.785 --> 00:31:06.105
Uh, you know, and the thing, but it's like

00:31:06.105 --> 00:31:07.815
a little reward when you get a free spot.

00:31:07.875 --> 00:31:08.174
Mm,

00:31:08.234 --> 00:31:09.045
that is true.

00:31:09.134 --> 00:31:09.345
Yeah.

00:31:09.345 --> 00:31:11.954
But how many times do you circle around the block to look for parking downtown?

00:31:12.494 --> 00:31:16.039
Um, I never do because I live at downtown in an old town and mm-hmm.

00:31:16.045 --> 00:31:20.444
So I'll just park a little farther and I ride motorcycle a lot, so I just park in the abundant motorcycle parking.

00:31:20.835 --> 00:31:21.615
You city of Fort Col.

00:31:21.615 --> 00:31:22.035
You're welcome.

00:31:22.035 --> 00:31:23.085
Should require that everywhere.

00:31:23.265 --> 00:31:23.505
Yes.

00:31:23.535 --> 00:31:29.204
Even at, it's so annoying when I go not to beat that drum, but when I go to like a big box store

00:31:29.265 --> 00:31:29.474
Yeah.

00:31:29.619 --> 00:31:32.414
And they've got like six handicap spots Yeah.

00:31:32.595 --> 00:31:33.555
That I can't park in.

00:31:33.555 --> 00:31:33.825
Mm-hmm.

00:31:33.980 --> 00:31:36.525
And then it's like busy for quite a while.

00:31:36.525 --> 00:31:40.125
And then I've gotta park, you know, down there by the second cart corral at Safeway.

00:31:40.575 --> 00:31:40.664
Yep.

00:31:41.204 --> 00:31:45.285
Where they could have just had like one little motorcycle parking only that nobody else could park in.

00:31:45.585 --> 00:31:46.154
This is true.

00:31:46.394 --> 00:31:51.944
Um, but, but I, I actually like it when I give special privileges, which is one of the reasons.

00:31:53.295 --> 00:31:54.255
I ride motorcycle.

00:31:54.255 --> 00:31:54.315
Yeah.

00:31:54.345 --> 00:31:59.474
But they've busted me now two times on this stupid riverside photo radar thing.

00:31:59.924 --> 00:32:00.285
Yeah.

00:32:00.315 --> 00:32:07.964
'cause every day I leave here on my big bike that you see and I, I go through first gear and I hit second gear and then I cool it down.

00:32:07.970 --> 00:32:08.019
Mm-hmm.

00:32:08.099 --> 00:32:10.994
And settle it down before I have to turn left on Mulberry.

00:32:10.994 --> 00:32:15.345
But right when I come outta second gear is right When the stupid flash goes

00:32:15.345 --> 00:32:15.734
pop.

00:32:15.734 --> 00:32:17.595
I mean that means you're going 11 over the speed limit.

00:32:17.625 --> 00:32:17.894
Yeah.

00:32:17.894 --> 00:32:19.214
And those fuckers have no right to,

00:32:19.815 --> 00:32:21.134
there's nobody around me.

00:32:21.134 --> 00:32:22.755
The water is wide open.

00:32:22.755 --> 00:32:23.654
I'm not hurting.

00:32:23.654 --> 00:32:24.555
It doesn't matter hurting anybody.

00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:25.579
It's not available at all.

00:32:25.769 --> 00:32:27.825
It's not about the number of people on the roads.

00:32:27.825 --> 00:32:28.420
Such freaking scam harvest.

00:32:28.724 --> 00:32:34.214
They put it in places where it's, where it should be faster speed if they

00:32:34.214 --> 00:32:35.865
put it in places where people speed.

00:32:36.105 --> 00:32:36.585
Right.

00:32:36.944 --> 00:32:41.234
Because the people are saying to themselves, it's safe to go faster than this here.

00:32:41.325 --> 00:32:42.464
Well, we overbuilt our roads.

00:32:42.464 --> 00:32:44.295
Which signal that you can drive faster?

00:32:44.384 --> 00:32:46.184
Well, because we overbuilt straight roads.

00:32:46.244 --> 00:32:46.454
Like

00:32:46.454 --> 00:32:47.775
when it's busy, I slow down.

00:32:47.775 --> 00:32:49.484
Like if there's traffic, I slow down.

00:32:49.484 --> 00:32:49.664
But.

00:32:49.664 --> 00:32:50.789
I don't dunno.

00:32:50.789 --> 00:32:51.160
It's a, I dunno.

00:32:51.585 --> 00:32:53.414
Anyway, get, I'm also a fan, motorcycle

00:32:53.625 --> 00:32:54.015
parking.

00:32:54.015 --> 00:32:56.865
I drive a motorcycle and I'm not great at tight turnarounds.

00:32:56.954 --> 00:32:57.164
And

00:32:57.164 --> 00:33:05.144
you deserve to have a special authority that lets you go 15 to 25 miles an hour faster than everybody else in every situation about that, especially in canyons.

00:33:05.144 --> 00:33:07.005
I, well, I don't know about that, but

00:33:07.454 --> 00:33:08.894
I'm just saying, I mean, it's appropriate.

00:33:08.954 --> 00:33:09.285
Yeah.

00:33:09.494 --> 00:33:12.075
If 85-year-old lady is driving, you know,

00:33:12.434 --> 00:33:12.704
uh,

00:33:12.855 --> 00:33:13.994
old Buicks Yeah.

00:33:13.994 --> 00:33:14.835
Can go this speed.

00:33:14.894 --> 00:33:16.634
I have to go the same speed on my sport bike.

00:33:16.634 --> 00:33:16.724
Or an

00:33:16.724 --> 00:33:19.154
85-year-old driving an RV, towing whatever it's for.

00:33:19.244 --> 00:33:20.174
Towing a Jeep, you know,

00:33:20.299 --> 00:33:21.974
it's, it's injust.

00:33:23.009 --> 00:33:29.309
Equality, you can take it up at equality is times injust and this is one of those cases where I should not have to follow the same rules.

00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:31.289
Thanks Eva for Thank you.

00:33:31.470 --> 00:33:32.430
Kidding us back on track?

00:33:32.430 --> 00:33:33.660
I don't think we ever answered the question.

00:33:33.990 --> 00:33:35.339
Um, what question was it?

00:33:35.339 --> 00:33:35.819
I don't know.

00:33:37.049 --> 00:33:37.200
Oh.

00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:38.339
The paid dream on parking.

00:33:38.339 --> 00:33:38.549
Thanks.

00:33:39.660 --> 00:33:40.500
I mean, we can just keep going.

00:33:40.740 --> 00:33:43.680
Not answer, but um, I think to get your, it's those shots.

00:33:43.710 --> 00:33:43.799
Oh.

00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:44.400
Would you like to have

00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:45.269
an infinity shot?

00:33:45.329 --> 00:33:45.900
What is that?

00:33:46.259 --> 00:33:48.630
It's a mix of all the different La Coors?

00:33:48.779 --> 00:33:48.839
No.

00:33:49.170 --> 00:33:52.259
That, uh, have been through the podcast over the last two or three months.

00:33:52.349 --> 00:33:52.410
Wow.

00:33:52.589 --> 00:33:53.490
I do not.

00:33:53.970 --> 00:33:54.150
Okay.

00:33:54.150 --> 00:33:54.809
But thank you.

00:33:54.930 --> 00:33:55.140
Alright.

00:33:55.144 --> 00:33:55.164
Alright.

00:33:55.380 --> 00:33:55.680
Well then

00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:56.160
let's go ahead.

00:33:56.309 --> 00:33:57.029
Paid parking.

00:33:57.035 --> 00:33:57.285
Paid paid parking.

00:33:57.569 --> 00:33:58.019
Yes.

00:33:58.049 --> 00:33:59.759
So listening something, something.

00:33:59.789 --> 00:34:00.180
Yeah.

00:34:00.180 --> 00:34:00.190
Yeah.

00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:01.289
I mean,

00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:03.000
what do you, what do you wanna do from here?

00:34:03.750 --> 00:34:05.250
Do, do you want me to answer the question?

00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:05.404
Yeah, I do.

00:34:05.404 --> 00:34:06.240
Do you think we answered it all?

00:34:06.269 --> 00:34:06.509
Okay.

00:34:06.509 --> 00:34:07.244
Well, no, I don't think we did.

00:34:07.470 --> 00:34:10.199
I think, you know, either way we're paying for the parking.

00:34:10.289 --> 00:34:10.739
I'll say that.

00:34:11.099 --> 00:34:11.130
Mm.

00:34:11.130 --> 00:34:13.139
Right now we're subsidizing it through the general fund.

00:34:13.860 --> 00:34:18.119
So do we want to subsidize it through the general fund or would we rather use that for other things?

00:34:18.150 --> 00:34:18.300
Yeah.

00:34:18.869 --> 00:34:19.559
That's the choice.

00:34:19.590 --> 00:34:21.300
We can continue to subsidize it.

00:34:21.300 --> 00:34:22.530
We just won't pay for other things.

00:34:22.590 --> 00:34:22.860
Yeah.

00:34:23.309 --> 00:34:29.340
So do we shift it on to residents and, and then have visitors pay that and, and have that model?

00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:31.079
Yeah, I think it's a, it makes more sense.

00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:31.590
Okay.

00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.559
So generally in favor, moderate pricing.

00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:35.130
I suppose

00:34:35.219 --> 00:34:37.764
it's gonna be, I mean, if our dollars are, don't think we're, I mean, we hit strangle

00:34:37.769 --> 00:34:38.760
a golden goose, right?

00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:38.849
Yeah.

00:34:38.849 --> 00:34:42.059
Like if people stop coming downtown because you gotta pay for parking lot at that place.

00:34:42.065 --> 00:34:42.565
That's, I

00:34:42.565 --> 00:34:47.159
don't think that's, and if you look at the, the map of how far they think people walk, it's very little.

00:34:47.219 --> 00:34:47.460
Yeah.

00:34:47.489 --> 00:34:49.590
So people I think we walk Yeah.

00:34:49.590 --> 00:34:52.949
More than that and not much, you know, so it's a tight, it's a tight ring of where you're gonna park.

00:34:52.949 --> 00:34:55.289
Free parking outside of that garage is still available.

00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:55.469
Yeah.

00:34:56.070 --> 00:34:59.010
Uh, you know, I think boulder's like$8 an hour to park down.

00:34:59.219 --> 00:35:00.000
It's something ridiculous.

00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:00.750
We're not going that high.

00:35:00.809 --> 00:35:02.730
We're going, I think we talked about a dollar dollar 50.

00:35:02.909 --> 00:35:03.179
Okay.

00:35:03.329 --> 00:35:04.199
We're keeping it reasonable.

00:35:04.230 --> 00:35:04.380
Alright.

00:35:04.380 --> 00:35:05.610
We're keeping it for cols listening.

00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:06.719
Thanks.

00:35:06.809 --> 00:35:06.989
Yeah.

00:35:07.769 --> 00:35:08.489
What do we got here?

00:35:11.340 --> 00:35:15.000
This must be the Parmesan garlic popcorn seasoning.

00:35:15.030 --> 00:35:15.510
Alright.

00:35:15.570 --> 00:35:16.485
What's the difference between.

00:35:17.985 --> 00:35:19.335
Well know Basil, I presume.

00:35:20.414 --> 00:35:21.644
Oh, sans pesto.

00:35:22.304 --> 00:35:22.844
Finer.

00:35:22.934 --> 00:35:23.840
A finer CORs city.

00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:23.849
Okay.

00:35:24.255 --> 00:35:24.525
Alright.

00:35:27.824 --> 00:35:28.304
I think

00:35:28.304 --> 00:35:29.175
but this one's a different color.

00:35:29.175 --> 00:35:29.264
Wait.

00:35:29.474 --> 00:35:29.894
Yeah.

00:35:29.894 --> 00:35:30.224
This must

00:35:30.224 --> 00:35:30.824
Is this one?

00:35:30.945 --> 00:35:31.545
No, sorry.

00:35:31.844 --> 00:35:32.385
I lied to you.

00:35:32.864 --> 00:35:34.335
Down home pickle shake.

00:35:34.425 --> 00:35:34.815
Oh, right.

00:35:34.815 --> 00:35:37.485
I don't know if I've ever had pickled chicken.

00:35:37.514 --> 00:35:38.235
Yeah, you're like, this

00:35:38.235 --> 00:35:39.494
doesn't seem like popcorn.

00:35:39.914 --> 00:35:42.195
I wanna know what you put pickle shake on.

00:35:42.284 --> 00:35:42.855
Generally,

00:35:42.855 --> 00:35:44.114
what would I put pickle shake on?

00:35:44.114 --> 00:35:44.385
Yeah.

00:35:47.324 --> 00:35:50.025
Probably the most likely thing in my lifestyle would be a Bloody Mary.

00:35:50.054 --> 00:35:50.085
Mm.

00:35:51.195 --> 00:35:52.394
Like the rim of a Bloody Mary.

00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:52.409
Mm-hmm.

00:35:52.489 --> 00:35:53.505
That's a good point.

00:35:53.510 --> 00:35:53.929
Mm-hmm.

00:35:54.150 --> 00:35:54.570
Mm-hmm.

00:35:54.949 --> 00:35:55.369
Mm-hmm.

00:35:55.994 --> 00:35:57.554
I like a little pickle juice in my Bloody Mary.

00:35:57.614 --> 00:35:57.914
Mm-hmm.

00:35:58.155 --> 00:35:58.244
Mm-hmm.

00:35:58.965 --> 00:36:00.795
So that would be.

00:36:02.655 --> 00:36:03.135
Kind of picky.

00:36:03.644 --> 00:36:04.335
I like pickle juice.

00:36:04.335 --> 00:36:05.175
So this is working out.

00:36:08.829 --> 00:36:09.559
What was that?

00:36:09.590 --> 00:36:09.880
Nice.

00:36:10.659 --> 00:36:12.465
It was me one That's kind of picky.

00:36:12.795 --> 00:36:13.005
Yeah.

00:36:13.010 --> 00:36:13.280
Mm-hmm.

00:36:13.514 --> 00:36:14.264
Like bri, the pickle.

00:36:15.255 --> 00:36:17.925
The pickle, uh, sunflower seeds.

00:36:18.284 --> 00:36:18.375
Oh yeah.

00:36:18.375 --> 00:36:19.905
Like those are so gross.

00:36:21.135 --> 00:36:22.545
What about the pickle potato chips?

00:36:22.934 --> 00:36:25.005
No, no, no.

00:36:25.005 --> 00:36:25.605
Gross.

00:36:25.695 --> 00:36:27.434
Like salt and pepper or something like that?

00:36:27.644 --> 00:36:28.514
Just the classics.

00:36:28.514 --> 00:36:28.875
Yeah.

00:36:29.954 --> 00:36:30.195
Alright.

00:36:30.195 --> 00:36:30.204
I

00:36:30.204 --> 00:36:30.644
mean, I don't Okay.

00:36:30.644 --> 00:36:42.045
For a barbecue or whatever the pickle, that would be the only thing I would ever use that on is the, but it seems that you would, uh, what, what would you actually use it for?

00:36:42.050 --> 00:36:42.400
I don't know.

00:36:42.460 --> 00:36:43.934
In a, in a practical environment.

00:36:44.175 --> 00:36:45.014
I'm not opposed to it.

00:36:45.014 --> 00:36:45.914
I just don't know what I would.

00:36:46.695 --> 00:36:47.804
So just bloody areas too.

00:36:47.954 --> 00:36:48.255
Yeah.

00:36:49.155 --> 00:36:49.184
Okay.

00:36:49.244 --> 00:36:49.994
Just my V eight.

00:36:52.905 --> 00:36:53.505
Um,

00:36:53.510 --> 00:36:54.494
next, next question.

00:36:54.525 --> 00:36:54.855
Alright.

00:36:55.094 --> 00:36:55.905
Is that how we do this?

00:36:56.744 --> 00:37:08.534
Um, how would you rate the city of Fort Collins on its homelessness initiatives in recent decades and recent years, and what changes would you recommend to their programs going forward?

00:37:09.014 --> 00:37:09.045
Mm.

00:37:09.195 --> 00:37:10.815
Is this like a scale of one to 10?

00:37:10.875 --> 00:37:11.715
Like what are we writing?

00:37:12.014 --> 00:37:13.545
Um, hmm.

00:37:13.755 --> 00:37:14.804
No, I, I don't know.

00:37:14.835 --> 00:37:15.614
Yeah, sure, sure.

00:37:15.614 --> 00:37:16.335
Scale of one to 10.

00:37:16.425 --> 00:37:16.815
I don't know.

00:37:16.965 --> 00:37:17.869
Let's do, I, I didn't

00:37:17.869 --> 00:37:18.735
know where the question was going.

00:37:18.735 --> 00:37:19.710
Yeah, well, like, you know,

00:37:19.769 --> 00:37:22.454
do you, do you think they're doing good job, bad job?

00:37:22.905 --> 00:37:24.554
Here's where I would Yeah.

00:37:24.554 --> 00:37:25.364
Change it.

00:37:25.545 --> 00:37:25.815
Like, I

00:37:25.815 --> 00:37:29.114
think, I think we're doing a good job for the resources we have.

00:37:29.204 --> 00:37:29.505
Yeah.

00:37:29.625 --> 00:37:34.905
You know, we have really limited funding for housing and that includes the houseless and so.

00:37:35.909 --> 00:37:37.739
You know, with the resources that we have and the Yeah.

00:37:37.769 --> 00:37:39.150
Things we've been the state able to allocate.

00:37:39.510 --> 00:37:40.079
We don't have any money now.

00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:41.784
They're like, we don't money the Fed are like, we're not doing that anymore.

00:37:41.784 --> 00:37:42.144
Mm-hmm.

00:37:42.295 --> 00:37:42.585
Nope.

00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:49.530
And, uh, and then the city, you know, has been asked more if you think about the evolution of what a city's been asked to do over the decades.

00:37:49.590 --> 00:37:49.829
Yeah.

00:37:50.010 --> 00:37:50.670
Housing.

00:37:51.045 --> 00:37:53.519
It, it used to be a government function than it went away.

00:37:53.579 --> 00:37:54.480
Now it's coming back.

00:37:54.809 --> 00:37:56.369
Think about like what we're being asked to do.

00:37:56.369 --> 00:38:05.579
We're, and the local level being asked more and more, the state's passing things on down to us and we, we don't have bigger, they're not giving us money to, so it's mandate with no money to do the thing.

00:38:05.585 --> 00:38:10.199
I mean, just across the board we've had different mandates that have no money and so we're just stretched thin and thinner.

00:38:10.409 --> 00:38:13.829
What, like putting people up at night when it's cold and stuff like that?

00:38:13.829 --> 00:38:14.184
Or what do you mean?

00:38:14.184 --> 00:38:15.269
Oh, not just with homelessness.

00:38:15.300 --> 00:38:15.420
Okay.

00:38:15.420 --> 00:38:18.000
Just with, you know, just in general state bills without fiscal notes.

00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:18.300
Just, yep.

00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:18.659
Fair.

00:38:18.900 --> 00:38:19.199
Yeah.

00:38:19.650 --> 00:38:22.170
So I think governor's p is good at that.

00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:22.530
Yeah.

00:38:22.769 --> 00:38:25.650
So I think as far as our programs, you know, during, uh.

00:38:26.264 --> 00:38:26.715
COVID.

00:38:26.775 --> 00:38:32.235
When we had the ARPA dollars, that's when we started the mental health officers and that was a great call.

00:38:32.264 --> 00:38:34.664
I think that has been an excellent program to invest in.

00:38:34.664 --> 00:38:37.994
There was a lot of, uh, mental health problems created by that crisis.

00:38:37.994 --> 00:38:39.014
Yeah, definitely.

00:38:39.585 --> 00:38:42.045
And uh, or a response to the crisis, perhaps.

00:38:42.105 --> 00:38:42.195
Yep.

00:38:42.284 --> 00:38:42.554
Yeah.

00:38:42.795 --> 00:38:44.175
I mean, tons of people lost their homes.

00:38:44.204 --> 00:38:44.625
Evictions.

00:38:44.625 --> 00:38:44.744
Sure.

00:38:44.744 --> 00:38:45.554
Like so many things.

00:38:45.554 --> 00:38:45.855
Right.

00:38:45.974 --> 00:38:46.815
Lost jobs.

00:38:47.264 --> 00:38:49.275
People are still recovering from the pandemic and True.

00:38:49.364 --> 00:38:50.505
It's, we don't talk about it.

00:38:50.505 --> 00:38:54.644
We just, one day it was gone and you know, we're just like back to normal.

00:38:54.914 --> 00:38:55.635
What is normal?

00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:55.880
You know?

00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:57.885
Sorry about telling you to took that COVID shot stuff.

00:38:58.755 --> 00:38:58.994
Yeah.

00:38:59.025 --> 00:38:59.985
Co stuff turn out bad.

00:39:01.005 --> 00:39:02.025
So, you know.

00:39:02.114 --> 00:39:05.565
Um, but you know, I think that was excellent to have.

00:39:05.565 --> 00:39:14.235
Officers are the first ones to respond usually to those, and, you know, having officers trained in mental health and how to respond and the hope team and outreach Fort Collins, these are excellent things we're moving towards.

00:39:14.264 --> 00:39:14.385
Okay.

00:39:14.925 --> 00:39:20.505
But until we have enough homes for people, I mean, homes are the foundation of stability.

00:39:20.684 --> 00:39:23.684
So like, but real, real homes cost a lot of money.

00:39:23.775 --> 00:39:23.894
They do.

00:39:23.894 --> 00:39:25.454
Like what do you think about like.

00:39:26.610 --> 00:39:30.690
Um, we drove down Putter Canyon yesterday and saw the mm-hmm.

00:39:31.019 --> 00:39:33.025
Uh, little, uh, cabin City mm-hmm.

00:39:33.105 --> 00:39:33.474
That, uh mm-hmm.

00:39:34.469 --> 00:39:36.750
Danny has built up there in putter Park.

00:39:36.809 --> 00:39:36.929
Yep.

00:39:37.380 --> 00:39:42.989
Like, should there be more cost effective, like even a condo?

00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:44.519
A hundred percent, 400 grand.

00:39:44.730 --> 00:39:48.840
Like, and a lot of people can't afford the mortgage on a$400,000 just to build

00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:49.500
an apartment.

00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:49.980
Right.

00:39:49.980 --> 00:39:51.659
Is four is$500,000.

00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:53.699
$420,000 right now.

00:39:53.789 --> 00:39:53.909
Really?

00:39:53.909 --> 00:39:54.510
Just to build it.

00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:55.230
Oh God.

00:39:55.230 --> 00:39:56.010
That's stupid.

00:39:56.070 --> 00:39:56.280
Yeah.

00:39:56.340 --> 00:39:59.730
You look at what the housing authorities, they're projecting, I mean Right.

00:39:59.730 --> 00:40:01.769
It's, it's not like it's a luxury apartment.

00:40:01.769 --> 00:40:02.190
Right.

00:40:02.460 --> 00:40:06.570
Well, and, and I've got a, it's not here today, but my ambulance camper.

00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:07.050
Yeah.

00:40:07.050 --> 00:40:08.070
My 89 Ford.

00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:08.340
Yeah.

00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:10.079
I could live in that somewhere.

00:40:10.110 --> 00:40:10.199
Yeah.

00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:11.039
For a year.

00:40:11.954 --> 00:40:12.074
Yeah.

00:40:12.074 --> 00:40:12.164
And,

00:40:12.255 --> 00:40:15.735
and wipe down with gloss and maintain a regular dude's job.

00:40:15.764 --> 00:40:15.855
Mm-hmm.

00:40:16.215 --> 00:40:16.364
Yep.

00:40:16.425 --> 00:40:20.414
Uh, but I couldn't because somebody would have me towed for parking front of their place.

00:40:20.835 --> 00:40:21.065
Yes, they would.

00:40:21.065 --> 00:40:21.074
Yeah.

00:40:21.074 --> 00:40:21.085
Yeah.

00:40:21.150 --> 00:40:25.755
So like, tell me what the like non-traditional solutions to that are.

00:40:25.844 --> 00:40:31.125
I think we just had to think out of the box and, and more creatively, more compassionately and quicker.

00:40:31.155 --> 00:40:32.565
We need quicker solutions.

00:40:32.565 --> 00:40:32.625
Yeah.

00:40:32.625 --> 00:40:33.090
Time is

00:40:33.090 --> 00:40:34.125
money in that space for sure.

00:40:34.184 --> 00:40:47.025
I mean, you just think about the people who need help or need stability and I mean, you know, for a long time I went to Northside, Alan Center and for my gym and the number of families that come in there to get their kids ready for school.

00:40:47.235 --> 00:40:48.704
So those are kids living in their car.

00:40:48.945 --> 00:40:50.684
Like this isn't just about

00:40:51.105 --> 00:40:51.405
Yeah.

00:40:51.494 --> 00:40:53.414
You know, those are, is that, is that facility full?

00:40:53.775 --> 00:40:54.735
Is it well utilized?

00:40:54.795 --> 00:40:55.275
The north side?

00:40:55.364 --> 00:40:55.574
Yeah.

00:40:55.664 --> 00:40:56.534
Well, it's a gym for

00:40:56.775 --> 00:40:58.034
Yeah, I know, but is it, is it,

00:40:58.275 --> 00:40:58.454
mm-hmm.

00:40:58.695 --> 00:40:59.385
People use it.

00:40:59.385 --> 00:41:00.014
I mean Yeah.

00:41:00.135 --> 00:41:00.284
But

00:41:00.284 --> 00:41:01.364
is it fully utilized?

00:41:01.364 --> 00:41:02.144
Should there be more

00:41:02.445 --> 00:41:03.164
places like that?

00:41:03.224 --> 00:41:05.864
Well, they're not, I mean, it's not like a place to come get your kids ready for school.

00:41:05.864 --> 00:41:07.485
It's just where they have their resources.

00:41:07.485 --> 00:41:07.695
Right, right, right.

00:41:07.695 --> 00:41:08.684
And so we need.

00:41:09.210 --> 00:41:13.050
Well, we need more access to resources for folks and we need temporary housing.

00:41:13.050 --> 00:41:17.130
And you think about, I think PSD has a thousand students a year that are unhoused.

00:41:17.195 --> 00:41:17.355
Yeah.

00:41:17.820 --> 00:41:17.969
Yeah.

00:41:18.059 --> 00:41:19.170
How is that acceptable for cost?

00:41:19.170 --> 00:41:19.920
But what does the city

00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:22.380
subsidize though to make it affordable for them?

00:41:22.380 --> 00:41:23.309
Or like what's the Well,

00:41:23.309 --> 00:41:26.340
we could definitely make it easier to build more creative solutions.

00:41:26.340 --> 00:41:26.369
Okay.

00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:31.380
And you know, there housing has just had a resistance to evolving Yeah.

00:41:31.590 --> 00:41:32.369
Of how we build it.

00:41:32.375 --> 00:41:33.960
You, you look at, we built cul-de-sacs.

00:41:33.989 --> 00:41:34.139
Yeah.

00:41:34.295 --> 00:41:39.150
And we build them on lots from between 4,600 square feet and 6,000 square feet.

00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:39.599
Yeah.

00:41:39.659 --> 00:41:44.340
Well, and the limitations on condo building and the liability around that have made Colorado impossible to do that.

00:41:44.340 --> 00:41:44.360
Well, definitely.

00:41:45.449 --> 00:41:50.460
And well, and And then you just also think about the advances, you think about the advances of agriculture over the past 50 years.

00:41:50.460 --> 00:41:50.519
Yeah.

00:41:50.525 --> 00:41:51.239
And how far that's come.

00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:52.590
How far has housing come?

00:41:52.860 --> 00:41:53.010
Yeah.

00:41:53.130 --> 00:41:54.420
Are we still doing stick-built homes?

00:41:55.335 --> 00:41:58.005
So you wanna take a bulldozer to the regulations in the housing economy?

00:41:58.155 --> 00:42:02.355
No, I just think, you know, we could do things like de-stigmatize modular homes.

00:42:02.414 --> 00:42:02.744
Okay.

00:42:02.864 --> 00:42:04.275
You know, we could do tiny homes.

00:42:04.275 --> 00:42:05.235
There's a lot of options.

00:42:05.235 --> 00:42:05.534
Agreed.

00:42:05.534 --> 00:42:05.835
Yeah.

00:42:05.894 --> 00:42:06.164
Agreed.

00:42:06.164 --> 00:42:06.284
Yeah.

00:42:06.974 --> 00:42:07.695
Old ambulances.

00:42:07.844 --> 00:42:09.344
Old ambulances, stuff like that.

00:42:10.034 --> 00:42:17.110
Um, so we have, uh, eight questions and sauces.

00:42:17.110 --> 00:42:17.429
Mm-hmm.

00:42:17.514 --> 00:42:18.824
And only seven were sent out.

00:42:18.945 --> 00:42:18.974
Okay.

00:42:18.974 --> 00:42:23.414
So, um, this one is a surprise, Uhhuh, and it's our grab bag from the traditional

00:42:23.445 --> 00:42:23.985
podcast.

00:42:24.014 --> 00:42:24.284
Okay.

00:42:24.795 --> 00:42:30.525
So everybody in I'm very excited in the full podcast has to pull three and answer all three.

00:42:30.525 --> 00:42:30.554
Uhhuh.

00:42:31.364 --> 00:42:34.125
You have to answer one, but you may answer up to three.

00:42:34.125 --> 00:42:35.655
So grab three balls out of there.

00:42:36.465 --> 00:42:36.735
Right.

00:42:37.125 --> 00:42:38.054
And you got all three.

00:42:38.085 --> 00:42:38.144
Yeah.

00:42:38.144 --> 00:42:38.445
Great.

00:42:39.105 --> 00:42:42.255
And then, uh, in any order we can, oh, wait.

00:42:42.284 --> 00:42:43.304
First we have to do this.

00:42:43.335 --> 00:42:44.864
We have to taste this and do the tasting notes.

00:42:44.985 --> 00:42:45.764
Do you think you can balance?

00:42:45.764 --> 00:42:46.005
Yes.

00:42:46.005 --> 00:42:47.804
The, I think this is the Parmesan one.

00:42:48.855 --> 00:42:50.054
No, this is the popcorn salt.

00:42:51.224 --> 00:42:52.394
Parmesan popcorn?

00:42:52.514 --> 00:42:52.965
Oh yes.

00:42:53.054 --> 00:42:53.295
That one.

00:42:53.295 --> 00:42:53.715
And the same

00:42:53.954 --> 00:42:54.704
without the basil?

00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:55.449
Yeah.

00:42:55.579 --> 00:42:56.289
Sam's basil.

00:42:57.855 --> 00:42:58.155
Ooh.

00:43:00.164 --> 00:43:01.364
It tastes kind of cheesy.

00:43:01.574 --> 00:43:02.925
I think it's'cause it's Parmesan.

00:43:03.375 --> 00:43:03.704
Oh duh.

00:43:07.094 --> 00:43:08.114
But very cheesy.

00:43:08.114 --> 00:43:08.235
Mm-hmm.

00:43:08.534 --> 00:43:09.434
More so than I expected.

00:43:09.644 --> 00:43:09.824
This is

00:43:09.824 --> 00:43:10.125
true,

00:43:11.594 --> 00:43:13.215
but yum.

00:43:13.875 --> 00:43:14.385
I like that.

00:43:14.389 --> 00:43:14.650
Mm-hmm.

00:43:15.550 --> 00:43:15.969
Mm-hmm.

00:43:17.175 --> 00:43:17.594
Or salty.

00:43:17.684 --> 00:43:19.635
I tried to, I tried to breathe it a little bit.

00:43:20.295 --> 00:43:21.045
It was pretty fine.

00:43:21.105 --> 00:43:21.255
Mm-hmm.

00:43:21.500 --> 00:43:21.769
Mm-hmm.

00:43:21.855 --> 00:43:22.905
And that's why it's popcorn salt.

00:43:23.894 --> 00:43:24.255
This is true.

00:43:24.255 --> 00:43:24.445
Otherwise true.

00:43:24.445 --> 00:43:25.335
Otherwise, I'd say cos salt.

00:43:25.394 --> 00:43:26.355
Mm-hmm.

00:43:26.356 --> 00:43:26.365
Mm-hmm.

00:43:26.365 --> 00:43:26.376
Okay.

00:43:26.376 --> 00:43:26.449
I'm gonna

00:43:28.469 --> 00:43:28.809
do that.

00:43:29.989 --> 00:43:30.530
Do that.

00:43:31.034 --> 00:43:31.965
Oh, do you want any milk?

00:43:32.085 --> 00:43:36.824
No, you, I don't Make me fart all day.

00:43:39.135 --> 00:43:40.934
I know you're trying to kill me in some way on the show.

00:43:41.985 --> 00:43:43.094
If I can just make you laugh.

00:43:43.094 --> 00:43:45.074
That accomplishes most of my, there you go.

00:43:45.945 --> 00:43:47.235
Um, would you like to start?

00:43:47.295 --> 00:43:48.344
Okay, number nine.

00:43:48.585 --> 00:43:49.094
Number nine.

00:43:50.610 --> 00:43:53.340
What's the strangest way you've ever injured yourself?

00:43:54.510 --> 00:43:55.650
The strangest way.

00:43:55.769 --> 00:43:56.219
Yes.

00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:57.030
Okay.

00:43:57.030 --> 00:43:57.329
Hold on.

00:43:57.630 --> 00:43:58.320
I have to think about that.

00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:04.679
I do injure myself quite frequently, but then they all kind of seems Oh, strangest way.

00:44:04.860 --> 00:44:05.130
Yeah.

00:44:06.570 --> 00:44:09.355
Like, oops, I did again,

00:44:11.675 --> 00:44:12.030
I, I know.

00:44:12.315 --> 00:44:13.980
I, I think I'm just gonna think about it more.

00:44:13.980 --> 00:44:14.610
So you have to keep singing.

00:44:14.610 --> 00:44:14.914
We can pass on that one.

00:44:14.914 --> 00:44:15.195
Singing that song you want.

00:44:17.394 --> 00:44:18.780
I did it again.

00:44:19.530 --> 00:44:21.875
I don't know the words with your heart.

00:44:21.875 --> 00:44:22.275
That's all words.

00:44:23.014 --> 00:44:23.474
What's that?

00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:24.630
I played with your heart.

00:44:24.630 --> 00:44:25.139
I played

00:44:25.139 --> 00:44:25.980
with your heart.

00:44:26.309 --> 00:44:27.570
Got lost in the game.

00:44:27.659 --> 00:44:28.320
Got lost

00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:28.409
it.

00:44:28.795 --> 00:44:29.315
I don't know anything.

00:44:29.675 --> 00:44:30.114
I was just thinking

00:44:30.114 --> 00:44:30.755
about the producers.

00:44:32.594 --> 00:44:35.699
I don't think it's strange, but one time I did fall through a wicker chair.

00:44:35.789 --> 00:44:35.820
Okay.

00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:37.829
Yeah, it was like,

00:44:37.829 --> 00:44:42.510
it was getting, like, it would've been in the backyard for a while too long, and he just went, you know, it was like a

00:44:42.510 --> 00:44:43.679
square, it's like wood here.

00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:44.070
Mm.

00:44:44.340 --> 00:44:44.610
Yeah.

00:44:44.610 --> 00:44:45.360
Kind of wicker here.

00:44:45.389 --> 00:44:45.659
I was.

00:44:45.664 --> 00:44:47.280
And the woven kind of like from the inside out.

00:44:47.340 --> 00:44:47.639
Yeah.

00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:53.429
You know, I was in college, I was of course hanging out my prayer flags as you do in college and, um, okay.

00:44:53.429 --> 00:44:58.289
Just broke and my entire shin went down the front of the, the wood on the inside.

00:44:58.320 --> 00:44:58.769
Oh.

00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:00.329
And so it scraped off.

00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:01.260
Oh, that's my whole

00:45:01.260 --> 00:45:01.769
front shin.

00:45:01.980 --> 00:45:02.760
Oh yeah.

00:45:02.820 --> 00:45:03.840
That was less pleasant.

00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:06.269
I was imagining you like stuck in a little wicked chair.

00:45:06.304 --> 00:45:07.085
No, because it collapsed.

00:45:07.090 --> 00:45:08.159
No, definitely injured myself.

00:45:08.190 --> 00:45:08.550
Okay.

00:45:08.670 --> 00:45:08.940
Yeah.

00:45:09.030 --> 00:45:10.079
Yeah, that sounds,

00:45:10.110 --> 00:45:15.420
although last week I tripped over a pebble about a hundred feet at the end of the trail and just annihilated my knee, so

00:45:16.949 --> 00:45:17.219
Yeah.

00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:18.405
But that's not strange so much.

00:45:18.405 --> 00:45:18.695
It's not strange.

00:45:18.869 --> 00:45:20.190
It was just probably epic to watch.

00:45:20.489 --> 00:45:23.550
Well, you're not required to answer any more questions, but you may.

00:45:23.849 --> 00:45:24.119
All right.

00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:24.599
Let's do it.

00:45:25.110 --> 00:45:27.449
Uh, next number, uh, 29 29.

00:45:30.809 --> 00:45:32.610
We're mostly a business owners podcast.

00:45:32.610 --> 00:45:32.670
Yeah.

00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:36.539
And the question is, what's been the most surprising thing about running your business?

00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:36.630
I

00:45:36.630 --> 00:45:38.460
mean, I did have a business as we talked about.

00:45:38.460 --> 00:45:40.019
You want, you wanna talk about it for that no one carries

00:45:40.019 --> 00:45:41.250
cash when they're on the bike trail.

00:45:41.309 --> 00:45:41.730
Yeah.

00:45:41.730 --> 00:45:41.739
Yeah.

00:45:42.090 --> 00:45:43.019
So that was the business.

00:45:43.019 --> 00:45:43.289
Okay.

00:45:43.380 --> 00:45:43.440
Yeah.

00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:50.070
What was that was the most surprising thing about it was people weren't packing when, why don't you wanna eat a brownie while you're running?

00:45:50.070 --> 00:45:50.940
I don't understand.

00:45:51.150 --> 00:45:51.420
Right.

00:45:52.170 --> 00:45:54.030
Seems like I'd be hungry if I run that far.

00:45:54.119 --> 00:45:54.539
I would.

00:45:54.659 --> 00:45:54.929
Yeah.

00:45:55.019 --> 00:45:55.320
Yeah.

00:45:55.500 --> 00:45:55.800
Okay.

00:45:55.949 --> 00:45:57.750
I mean, I run and I eat brownies while I run.

00:45:57.750 --> 00:45:58.590
You learned a fair bit.

00:45:59.099 --> 00:45:59.730
Learned a fair bit,

00:45:59.730 --> 00:45:59.909
yeah.

00:46:00.210 --> 00:46:02.519
Um, last one, 13.

00:46:04.980 --> 00:46:11.130
What's a book, movie or podcast that's had a big impact on you or the way you think about something?

00:46:13.230 --> 00:46:17.849
You know, if somebody asked me about this'cause they wanted my favorites and I don't have favorites.

00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:18.539
Well, would it have

00:46:18.539 --> 00:46:19.289
to be a favorite?

00:46:19.289 --> 00:46:20.670
That would, I know it doesn't have to be a favorite.

00:46:20.670 --> 00:46:22.920
What we're looking for here is something that changed.

00:46:22.949 --> 00:46:23.909
Oh, you want me to take those?

00:46:24.179 --> 00:46:24.659
Oh, sure.

00:46:25.050 --> 00:46:25.260
Thank you.

00:46:28.050 --> 00:46:28.889
Don't want you to have to hold my

00:46:28.889 --> 00:46:29.130
ball.

00:46:29.190 --> 00:46:33.630
I really was trying to retrain myself from making a lot of jokes about that, so thank you.

00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:35.400
I make jokes around here.

00:46:35.460 --> 00:46:35.760
Please.

00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:36.150
Thank you.

00:46:36.900 --> 00:46:38.880
Um, something, okay.

00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:39.059
That's

00:46:39.059 --> 00:46:42.000
actually changed how you thought about something.

00:46:42.030 --> 00:46:45.809
Like, I can think of something recently is the, the telepathy tapes.

00:46:45.989 --> 00:46:46.019
Mm.

00:46:46.019 --> 00:46:48.719
I'm talking about the nonverbal mm-hmm.

00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:49.800
Autistic kids mm-hmm.

00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:51.659
That can read their parents' minds mm-hmm.

00:46:51.659 --> 00:46:52.980
And stuff like that.

00:46:53.010 --> 00:46:53.070
Yeah.

00:46:53.070 --> 00:46:54.000
That's way out there.

00:46:54.420 --> 00:46:55.380
That is way out there.

00:46:55.469 --> 00:46:55.590
Yeah.

00:46:55.650 --> 00:46:56.489
But it's probably real.

00:46:57.465 --> 00:46:57.974
Yeah.

00:46:57.974 --> 00:46:59.114
Maybe it's the next phase.

00:46:59.655 --> 00:47:04.155
Maybe all these vaccines have actually created to lead into our next super race.

00:47:04.215 --> 00:47:04.695
Wow.

00:47:04.815 --> 00:47:05.414
I mean,

00:47:05.655 --> 00:47:07.034
of telepathy kids.

00:47:07.065 --> 00:47:07.304
Yeah.

00:47:07.304 --> 00:47:10.695
I mean there's like a whole universe where people can communicate and we don't even know about it.

00:47:10.755 --> 00:47:10.965
Yeah.

00:47:11.085 --> 00:47:11.565
That are humans.

00:47:11.594 --> 00:47:14.400
Well, and maybe the vaccines aren't just to something too, don't, I don't know.

00:47:14.594 --> 00:47:15.164
I'm just saying.

00:47:17.420 --> 00:47:24.375
But the worst actually, everybody's like increasing their vaccines now because they want to produce the next Elon Musk.

00:47:25.125 --> 00:47:25.514
That's true.

00:47:25.514 --> 00:47:27.559
They're like, who doesn't want a kid that's super can't spread?

00:47:27.565 --> 00:47:29.414
Okay, well we can't discuss this

00:47:29.414 --> 00:47:32.054
thing that deals, two things are correlated.

00:47:32.565 --> 00:47:33.105
I don't know.

00:47:33.255 --> 00:47:34.485
It seems like everybody's doing it.

00:47:34.965 --> 00:47:35.184
Just saying.

00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:36.494
I mean, just'cause everyone's doing it.

00:47:36.525 --> 00:47:38.320
No, I'm not a living in this situation.

00:47:38.860 --> 00:47:40.034
I'm a public health professional.

00:47:42.074 --> 00:47:42.675
Um, okay.

00:47:42.675 --> 00:47:43.724
We're supposed to try this.

00:47:43.730 --> 00:47:44.000
Oh yeah.

00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:45.405
This one's black garlic, I think.

00:47:45.494 --> 00:47:46.244
Yes, it is.

00:47:47.144 --> 00:47:48.585
I think I'm, I'm excited about this.

00:47:48.614 --> 00:47:49.125
I am too.

00:47:49.184 --> 00:47:50.565
Is it like dried?

00:47:50.864 --> 00:47:51.494
I don't think so.

00:47:51.494 --> 00:47:52.664
They were mashing it earlier.

00:47:52.664 --> 00:47:52.724
Oh.

00:47:53.954 --> 00:47:54.164
Yeah.

00:47:54.164 --> 00:47:55.514
Black garlic cloves.

00:47:55.605 --> 00:47:55.844
Oh yeah.

00:47:55.844 --> 00:47:57.105
It's kind of sticky, icky.

00:47:58.965 --> 00:48:01.364
I kind of, I'm excited about this.

00:48:02.114 --> 00:48:03.434
I'm worried and excited.

00:48:04.275 --> 00:48:04.605
Finally.

00:48:04.605 --> 00:48:05.835
Something challenging for you.

00:48:05.835 --> 00:48:06.434
Work, work headed.

00:48:13.184 --> 00:48:15.105
That's not what I was expecting it to taste like.

00:48:15.855 --> 00:48:18.644
It almost has like a mushroomy

00:48:18.945 --> 00:48:19.394
Yeah.

00:48:19.724 --> 00:48:20.985
Kind of tone at the end.

00:48:21.014 --> 00:48:21.105
Mm-hmm.

00:48:21.344 --> 00:48:22.905
I mean, I could taste certain, only taste the garlic.

00:48:22.934 --> 00:48:23.144
Mm-hmm.

00:48:23.385 --> 00:48:27.170
Um, being all full of love and stuff, but it does have kind of that mm-hmm.

00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.014
Kind of wraparound.

00:48:30.135 --> 00:48:33.344
It's not as pungent as I thought it was garlic pungent as I thought it's gonna be.

00:48:33.375 --> 00:48:33.824
Yeah, yeah.

00:48:33.824 --> 00:48:33.835
Yeah.

00:48:33.835 --> 00:48:33.929
Mm-hmm.

00:48:34.304 --> 00:48:34.425
Mm-hmm.

00:48:34.875 --> 00:48:40.065
Um, if I had a fresh, uh, clove of garlic here, could you just eat that straight up?

00:48:40.125 --> 00:48:40.155
I

00:48:40.155 --> 00:48:40.905
think I would burn.

00:48:41.324 --> 00:48:41.625
Oh yeah.

00:48:41.625 --> 00:48:41.985
It burns lot.

00:48:41.985 --> 00:48:42.135
Yeah.

00:48:42.289 --> 00:48:42.570
Yeah.

00:48:42.909 --> 00:48:45.045
So, no, but you could do it, don't I?

00:48:45.045 --> 00:48:45.704
I could, but you could.

00:48:45.885 --> 00:48:46.244
Sure.

00:48:46.514 --> 00:48:46.695
Yeah.

00:48:46.695 --> 00:48:46.815
We

00:48:46.815 --> 00:48:47.684
should have done that, guys.

00:48:48.045 --> 00:48:48.494
Um,

00:48:49.065 --> 00:48:49.275
yeah.

00:48:49.364 --> 00:48:50.775
I'm always up for a garlic shooter.

00:48:50.954 --> 00:48:51.255
Actually.

00:48:51.255 --> 00:48:52.215
I've been giving, uh.

00:48:53.219 --> 00:48:55.019
Uh, ginger shots.

00:48:55.094 --> 00:48:55.514
Mm-hmm.

00:48:55.655 --> 00:48:55.954
My wife.

00:48:55.954 --> 00:48:55.965
Mm-hmm.

00:48:56.340 --> 00:49:01.500
And my host exchange student because they've been kind of on the mend of getting sick.

00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:01.920
Mm-hmm.

00:49:02.550 --> 00:49:05.309
Uh, which they hate, but they do it.

00:49:05.309 --> 00:49:05.550
Mm-hmm.

00:49:05.594 --> 00:49:07.289
Because it makes'em healthier

00:49:07.349 --> 00:49:07.889
if you do that.

00:49:07.889 --> 00:49:09.099
Like ginger, garlic, lemon.

00:49:09.099 --> 00:49:09.235
Yep.

00:49:09.684 --> 00:49:10.034
Lemon.

00:49:10.034 --> 00:49:10.394
Some lemon.

00:49:10.394 --> 00:49:10.715
Kind of lemon juice.

00:49:10.715 --> 00:49:11.164
Pepper if you want.

00:49:11.164 --> 00:49:12.960
Straight up lemon juice and cayenne pepper.

00:49:12.989 --> 00:49:13.349
Mm-hmm.

00:49:13.500 --> 00:49:14.670
But not cayenne for you either.

00:49:14.699 --> 00:49:14.820
Mm-hmm.

00:49:14.820 --> 00:49:16.199
No, but some of those things.

00:49:16.199 --> 00:49:16.469
Yeah.

00:49:16.474 --> 00:49:16.485
Yeah.

00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:18.329
It makes the bad stuff go away.

00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:20.190
Are we rebranding the name of this one?

00:49:20.190 --> 00:49:21.539
'cause it can't be hot takes.

00:49:21.989 --> 00:49:24.150
No, we're the hot nugs conversations.

00:49:24.150 --> 00:49:25.260
It can't be hot nugs.

00:49:25.500 --> 00:49:26.159
Oh yeah.

00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:26.715
We don't have, because we don't

00:49:26.730 --> 00:49:28.320
have nugs, nor are they hot.

00:49:28.500 --> 00:49:29.280
Speak for yourself.

00:49:33.655 --> 00:49:34.074
Hot chicken.

00:49:34.074 --> 00:49:34.085
Hot.

00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:35.639
It's not hot chicken.

00:49:36.420 --> 00:49:36.719
It's not

00:49:36.775 --> 00:49:36.994
hot.

00:49:38.065 --> 00:49:40.440
Well, no, but there's limitations.

00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:45.750
Um, uh uh, I guess I'll just try to make you sweat with this next question.

00:49:45.780 --> 00:49:46.050
Okay.

00:49:48.030 --> 00:49:53.730
How can the city of Fort Collins maintain financial strength in light of declining sales tax collection trends?

00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:57.239
What mix of cost cutting and revenue enhancements would you envision?

00:49:57.480 --> 00:49:57.570
Mm-hmm.

00:49:57.690 --> 00:50:00.030
We kind of drifted into this a little bit already, but We did.

00:50:00.150 --> 00:50:00.360
Yeah.

00:50:00.420 --> 00:50:09.389
Um, would you like to kind of expand, like do you think we can turn the tide on sales taxes, or is that just gonna kind of keep slipping?

00:50:10.170 --> 00:50:13.980
Well, we could, we could turn the tide on sales tax.

00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:14.369
Okay.

00:50:14.849 --> 00:50:16.230
If we wanna invest in those things

00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:18.210
and, but you don't know if we do?

00:50:18.570 --> 00:50:20.309
Well, you know, I think, um,

00:50:20.429 --> 00:50:21.329
in what things?

00:50:21.510 --> 00:50:23.579
Oh, right, because I didn't finish my sentence.

00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:23.849
Yeah.

00:50:24.210 --> 00:50:28.949
You know, I think that we could really focus on, uh.

00:50:29.625 --> 00:50:31.514
How are we bringing in more revenue?

00:50:31.574 --> 00:50:33.014
Is that through small businesses?

00:50:33.014 --> 00:50:34.724
Is it through other employers?

00:50:35.054 --> 00:50:35.295
Right.

00:50:35.684 --> 00:50:41.655
A lot of people that I talk to, housing affordability is one thing, but job opportunity is a, is the second biggest thing.

00:50:41.655 --> 00:50:41.715
Yeah.

00:50:42.045 --> 00:50:43.815
Finding a job that pays a livable wage.

00:50:43.815 --> 00:50:48.045
So we'd rather have more like manufacturing jobs and stuff than more retail sales.

00:50:48.074 --> 00:50:48.974
Yeah, exactly.

00:50:49.065 --> 00:50:50.085
And the taxes that come with it.

00:50:50.144 --> 00:50:56.085
How are we looking at how are we providing job opportunities for people, which could bring in sales revenue and more expendable income.

00:50:56.204 --> 00:50:56.414
Yeah.

00:50:56.594 --> 00:51:01.844
When you have people spending so much money on housing and childcare and price of goods going up, yeah.

00:51:02.054 --> 00:51:03.284
They're not spending as much money.

00:51:03.344 --> 00:51:09.434
We also have a changing population where we haven't really seen a big, I think we've been pretty relatively flat.

00:51:10.005 --> 00:51:10.554
No, kids don't move here anymore.

00:51:10.554 --> 00:51:10.755
Old people move here now.

00:51:10.784 --> 00:51:11.054
Yeah.

00:51:11.054 --> 00:51:11.744
To be with their

00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:12.914
kids spend and their grandkids spend.

00:51:12.914 --> 00:51:13.065
Yeah.

00:51:13.454 --> 00:51:17.355
And so we haven't seen a population increase, but we've seen a change in demographic.

00:51:17.355 --> 00:51:19.275
All of these are playing into our sales tax.

00:51:19.394 --> 00:51:19.514
Yeah.

00:51:19.905 --> 00:51:23.864
And so I do think, you know, Fort Collins for a long time has.

00:51:24.869 --> 00:51:29.639
Kind of rested on its laurels of we don't, we haven't really gone out and tracked too cool for school.

00:51:29.670 --> 00:51:33.239
You know, well, bike, Bess band, brute, whatever, you know, one more of this.

00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:33.250
Yeah.

00:51:33.250 --> 00:51:34.155
Even though it, yeah.

00:51:34.155 --> 00:51:34.554
Like it's,

00:51:34.554 --> 00:51:35.489
it's not hot, but it's good.

00:51:35.489 --> 00:51:36.000
It's not hot.

00:51:36.059 --> 00:51:36.360
Yeah.

00:51:36.420 --> 00:51:37.110
Anyway, keep going.

00:51:37.110 --> 00:51:37.230
Um,

00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:42.480
you know, and we haven't really stepped into, do we need to plaque, uh, attract employers?

00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.329
Do we need to attract better job opportunities?

00:51:45.539 --> 00:51:45.630
Mm-hmm.

00:51:45.869 --> 00:51:48.090
A lot of people see it as pro-growth, pro development.

00:51:48.090 --> 00:51:50.340
I see it as taking care of the people that live here.

00:51:50.820 --> 00:51:53.070
Uh, we have to have job opportunities.

00:51:53.250 --> 00:51:54.119
So is that the balance?

00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:58.739
Like some of your supporters don't really want growth and others realize that we need jobs and it's like, ah.

00:51:58.980 --> 00:52:00.059
I mean, it depends on how you look at it.

00:52:00.059 --> 00:52:01.530
If we just want to.

00:52:01.724 --> 00:52:06.885
To become a retirement community with the college, we can definitely go that down that path.

00:52:06.885 --> 00:52:07.695
But I don't think that's tourist

00:52:07.695 --> 00:52:08.025
town too.

00:52:08.085 --> 00:52:08.385
Yeah.

00:52:08.414 --> 00:52:09.885
I don't think that's what Fort Collins wants.

00:52:09.914 --> 00:52:10.034
Yeah.

00:52:10.034 --> 00:52:13.695
You know, and but with that, I mean, we have to evolve.

00:52:13.755 --> 00:52:15.675
You know, we ha we can't be static.

00:52:15.675 --> 00:52:16.514
We have to evolve.

00:52:16.514 --> 00:52:19.965
We have to look at how do we attract better job opportunities.

00:52:20.085 --> 00:52:28.784
And then on the expense side, we, you know, Fort Collins has been really lucky with having excess revenues for a really long time.

00:52:29.025 --> 00:52:29.175
Yeah.

00:52:29.175 --> 00:52:29.184
Yeah.

00:52:29.235 --> 00:52:30.525
We've built amazing things.

00:52:30.525 --> 00:52:33.284
We have beautiful parks, we have beautiful buildings.

00:52:33.855 --> 00:52:39.074
And I think more and more we're gonna have to look at, well, are we gonna be able to sustain that?

00:52:39.434 --> 00:52:39.585
Yeah.

00:52:39.644 --> 00:52:41.025
And how are we gonna pay for it?

00:52:41.204 --> 00:52:42.885
What about the operations maintenance?

00:52:42.945 --> 00:52:43.005
Yeah.

00:52:43.034 --> 00:52:47.775
You know, and what is the quality of service and quality of life that Fort Collins is expecting?

00:52:47.985 --> 00:52:48.105
Yeah.

00:52:48.434 --> 00:52:48.855
You know?

00:52:48.855 --> 00:52:49.275
And is that.

00:52:49.769 --> 00:52:50.460
Feasible.

00:52:50.610 --> 00:52:54.690
Uh, we could have a few really nice things or we could have a more, could City

00:52:54.690 --> 00:52:57.030
Park Lake sponsored by local think tank.

00:52:57.090 --> 00:52:57.239
Yes.

00:52:57.300 --> 00:52:57.809
There you go.

00:52:57.809 --> 00:52:58.530
Nice sign there.

00:52:59.579 --> 00:53:00.900
Just slide that in.

00:53:01.469 --> 00:53:02.519
Just putting that out there.

00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:03.719
A thousand bucks a year.

00:53:03.945 --> 00:53:05.940
I'm in Nice big

00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:07.920
eight by 16 sign.

00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:08.400
There you go.

00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:16.199
What is this last, this is the, uh, they were bragging about this, the red shewan peppercorn.

00:53:16.204 --> 00:53:16.525
Oh yeah.

00:53:18.164 --> 00:53:20.045
I feel like it sounds spicy, but it's not going.

00:53:20.065 --> 00:53:20.764
I'm is supposed be kind of fun.

00:53:20.789 --> 00:53:21.300
Yeah, right.

00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:23.190
Let us down again.

00:53:25.139 --> 00:53:25.559
We'll see.

00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:27.989
This looks Hmm?

00:53:27.989 --> 00:53:28.980
I hear a crunch.

00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:29.760
It looks sneezy.

00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:30.389
Spicy, but,

00:53:32.010 --> 00:53:32.250
mm.

00:53:33.989 --> 00:53:34.230
Nice.

00:53:34.230 --> 00:53:35.039
Coarse salt again.

00:53:35.264 --> 00:53:35.684
Mm-hmm.

00:53:35.940 --> 00:53:36.719
Coarse pepper too.

00:53:36.824 --> 00:53:37.244
Mm-hmm.

00:53:37.864 --> 00:53:38.284
Mm-hmm.

00:53:41.605 --> 00:53:42.025
Mm-hmm.

00:53:43.965 --> 00:53:45.644
I mean that's probably about as spicy as you ever get.

00:53:46.070 --> 00:53:46.099
Yeah.

00:53:46.179 --> 00:53:46.699
I don't do

00:53:48.045 --> 00:53:49.994
well, I mean like wasabi or horse radish.

00:53:50.025 --> 00:53:50.235
Yeah.

00:53:50.264 --> 00:53:51.465
You know, different kind of spice.

00:53:51.465 --> 00:53:52.784
But yeah,

00:53:52.844 --> 00:53:53.864
we could have gone there with you.

00:53:54.195 --> 00:53:54.554
It's true.

00:53:54.614 --> 00:53:55.485
Perhaps should have, but

00:53:55.784 --> 00:53:56.385
I'm not upset.

00:53:56.385 --> 00:53:56.594
There was.

00:53:56.594 --> 00:53:56.655
So

00:53:58.514 --> 00:54:00.914
I think just fresh garlic is what she probably should have.

00:54:00.914 --> 00:54:01.514
Like Exactly.

00:54:01.514 --> 00:54:02.025
Just fresh

00:54:02.025 --> 00:54:02.594
grated garlic

00:54:02.655 --> 00:54:03.494
or a jitter shot.

00:54:03.494 --> 00:54:03.585
Mm-hmm.

00:54:03.824 --> 00:54:04.914
Without the uh mm-hmm.

00:54:06.105 --> 00:54:06.344
What?

00:54:06.344 --> 00:54:07.304
There was something in the jitters.

00:54:07.304 --> 00:54:08.324
Oh, the cayenne pepper.

00:54:08.329 --> 00:54:08.380
Yeah.

00:54:08.565 --> 00:54:08.684
Yeah.

00:54:08.684 --> 00:54:08.864
Right.

00:54:08.864 --> 00:54:09.914
But you can have lemon juice.

00:54:10.244 --> 00:54:10.425
Yeah.

00:54:10.425 --> 00:54:10.485
Yeah.

00:54:10.489 --> 00:54:10.780
Mm-hmm.

00:54:11.235 --> 00:54:11.505
Uh,

00:54:11.775 --> 00:54:12.494
apple cider vinegar.

00:54:12.525 --> 00:54:12.675
Yeah.

00:54:12.699 --> 00:54:13.059
Mm-hmm.

00:54:13.139 --> 00:54:14.474
Oh, we should have done jitter shots.

00:54:14.474 --> 00:54:15.074
That would've been fun.

00:54:15.224 --> 00:54:15.375
Yeah.

00:54:16.664 --> 00:54:17.985
The last question mm-hmm.

00:54:18.824 --> 00:54:20.775
Is, uh, your loco experience.

00:54:21.675 --> 00:54:21.735
Okay.

00:54:21.735 --> 00:54:32.414
So your legit craziest experience of your lifetime that you're willing to share with our listeners and be damned who won't vote for you if they think your story is too crazy.

00:55:23.507 --> 00:55:23.715
My.

00:55:24.974 --> 00:55:27.585
My most, like in my life, most crazy experience in your life?

00:55:27.585 --> 00:55:28.275
Most crazy.

00:55:28.275 --> 00:55:34.155
Just, uh, it could be a moment, a day, a semester abroad, a near death experience.

00:55:34.155 --> 00:55:34.545
I don't know.

00:55:34.545 --> 00:55:37.664
Whatever comes to mind when I say your craziest experience of your lifetime.

00:55:42.375 --> 00:55:42.494
Hmm.

00:55:45.105 --> 00:55:46.184
I gotta think about this.

00:55:46.695 --> 00:55:46.965
Okay.

00:55:47.355 --> 00:55:48.135
What did other people

00:55:48.135 --> 00:55:48.344
say?

00:55:51.105 --> 00:55:51.795
Um,

00:55:51.855 --> 00:55:52.605
are you gonna share yours?

00:55:53.715 --> 00:55:54.375
I don't even know.

00:55:54.375 --> 00:55:55.125
I've got so many.

00:55:55.545 --> 00:55:56.385
Just your, I

00:55:56.385 --> 00:55:58.184
won't hold you to the most, the

00:55:58.184 --> 00:56:00.164
most or the, yeah.

00:56:00.525 --> 00:56:01.605
A crazy experience.

00:56:01.784 --> 00:56:01.844
Yeah.

00:56:03.135 --> 00:56:09.405
Um, I was just telling these guys about in my first anniversary trip, and I've told this story on the podcast.

00:56:09.409 --> 00:56:09.440
Mm-hmm.

00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:15.375
At least once before, but, um, we were trying to go from Lake City to, um.

00:56:16.545 --> 00:56:17.025
Re mm-hmm.

00:56:17.264 --> 00:56:19.755
Via Engineers Pass and our 88 Jeep Cherokee.

00:56:20.204 --> 00:56:24.105
And we were like at the very top, and it was like 32 degrees and sunny.

00:56:24.494 --> 00:56:27.405
And so it was like so slippery you couldn't even walk on it.

00:56:27.405 --> 00:56:27.764
Mm-hmm.

00:56:28.130 --> 00:56:32.414
But I was a rookie and I didn't have it in low range, just low gear.

00:56:33.344 --> 00:56:46.425
And we started sliding and I didn't have antilock brakes and like to literally not go off the road and go down like a 45 degree angle for 1500 feet and die before we hit the tree line.

00:56:46.485 --> 00:56:46.605
Mm-hmm.

00:56:47.144 --> 00:56:56.110
I had to accelerate instead of braking and drift through this basically 270 degree bank curve, um, on this top of the mountain.

00:56:56.969 --> 00:57:01.155
And we did, but like, I was probably gonna be dead.

00:57:01.215 --> 00:57:01.275
Wow.

00:57:01.275 --> 00:57:03.554
Like if you just took a snapshot when we started sliding.

00:57:03.554 --> 00:57:03.614
Yeah.

00:57:04.755 --> 00:57:06.045
Most people would've been dead.

00:57:06.449 --> 00:57:13.079
Uh, be, but I was a country kid that's been drifting and driving and trying to find the edge of traction my whole life.

00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:13.289
There you go.

00:57:13.289 --> 00:57:14.550
And I didn't wanna die that day.

00:57:14.699 --> 00:57:16.949
Are you also part of the Fast and Furious crew?

00:57:17.635 --> 00:57:17.855
No.

00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:18.420
No.

00:57:18.420 --> 00:57:19.500
That's too dangerous for me.

00:57:20.130 --> 00:57:20.489
Like, like

00:57:20.489 --> 00:57:21.780
Country Fast in Furious.

00:57:22.139 --> 00:57:22.739
Oh yes.

00:57:22.739 --> 00:57:24.090
That yeah, for sure.

00:57:24.090 --> 00:57:25.380
The country Fast and Furious.

00:57:25.775 --> 00:57:26.760
I think that could be a spinoff.

00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:27.150
Yeah.

00:57:27.570 --> 00:57:36.030
Like kids in my town, you know, they would find an old car in the pasture and get the engine running and go turn it into a, a circle track, race car.

00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:36.780
Mm-hmm.

00:57:36.780 --> 00:57:36.791
Mm-hmm.

00:57:36.860 --> 00:57:36.989
And

00:57:36.989 --> 00:57:37.440
stuff.

00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:39.389
And just dumb stuff.

00:57:39.420 --> 00:57:39.630
Yeah.

00:57:40.019 --> 00:57:42.090
Um, but no, I've never gone looking for trouble.

00:57:42.809 --> 00:57:43.590
They don't look for trouble.

00:57:43.590 --> 00:57:44.974
Trouble hide though always looks for me.

00:57:45.059 --> 00:57:45.449
Yeah.

00:57:46.139 --> 00:57:46.860
Um, so yeah.

00:57:47.130 --> 00:57:47.489
Whatever.

00:57:47.489 --> 00:57:48.869
That's one particular story.

00:57:48.869 --> 00:57:56.309
And we were talking about,'cause Paul told a story about being out in the booties of Egypt and just about dying on my podcast with him recently.

00:57:56.309 --> 00:57:56.400
Mm-hmm.

00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:59.219
And his kids were like, I never heard that story before Dad.

00:57:59.219 --> 00:58:00.780
He is like, yeah, I didn't really want you to know that.

00:58:01.380 --> 00:58:03.900
Um, and so I didn't tell Jill this story for a while.

00:58:04.260 --> 00:58:04.349
Yeah.

00:58:04.349 --> 00:58:04.360
Uhhuh.

00:58:04.590 --> 00:58:04.925
So if you've ever.

00:58:05.655 --> 00:58:11.864
You know, if you ever run somebody over and like had to put the body in the side of the road, she can't say that to like go bury it later or something.

00:58:11.864 --> 00:58:12.855
No, you're running from air.

00:58:12.855 --> 00:58:15.675
So couldn't even share story, even share that story, even if it was true.

00:58:15.735 --> 00:58:16.335
It's true.

00:58:16.574 --> 00:58:17.114
It is true.

00:58:17.175 --> 00:58:17.954
No, it's not true.

00:58:17.954 --> 00:58:18.909
But I wouldn't be able to share it.

00:58:18.909 --> 00:58:19.150
Yeah, i's true.

00:58:19.150 --> 00:58:19.360
Couldn't be able to share it.

00:58:19.875 --> 00:58:20.204
Yeah.

00:58:20.625 --> 00:58:21.315
Wanted get elected.

00:58:21.764 --> 00:58:25.425
Also, I drove like a geo metro in high school, so it's not like I would murder.

00:58:25.425 --> 00:58:27.105
I mean, you could rub somebody over, but you could, it would

00:58:27.135 --> 00:58:28.485
cause a lot of damage to the car.

00:58:28.570 --> 00:58:28.869
It would.

00:58:28.889 --> 00:58:29.110
Yes.

00:58:29.139 --> 00:58:29.630
Exactly.

00:58:30.250 --> 00:58:32.909
Not the human, it would get the car.

00:58:32.909 --> 00:58:33.704
You couldn't get away with it.

00:58:33.704 --> 00:58:34.005
Yeah.

00:58:34.905 --> 00:58:35.054
Yeah.

00:58:35.054 --> 00:58:36.735
It'd just be like them imprinted on the front,

00:58:37.155 --> 00:58:38.775
like Well, they would be fine.

00:58:38.780 --> 00:58:38.909
Yeah.

00:58:39.315 --> 00:58:39.554
Yeah.

00:58:39.644 --> 00:58:41.175
Well never know.

00:58:41.175 --> 00:58:41.985
I mean, it's still a car.

00:58:42.195 --> 00:58:42.525
That's true.

00:58:42.675 --> 00:58:43.094
That's true.

00:58:43.965 --> 00:58:44.085
So

00:58:44.085 --> 00:58:44.954
nothing like that?

00:58:44.954 --> 00:58:46.425
No, uh, no hidden bodies.

00:58:46.425 --> 00:58:47.534
But have you ever been arrested?

00:58:48.224 --> 00:58:49.065
Uh, no.

00:58:49.394 --> 00:58:49.994
I've never been.

00:58:49.994 --> 00:58:52.574
Re I had to think about that, but no, I've never been arrested.

00:58:53.144 --> 00:58:54.375
Yeah, I know it's kind of boring.

00:58:54.375 --> 00:58:54.644
No broken

00:58:54.644 --> 00:58:55.275
bones.

00:58:56.054 --> 00:58:56.445
Um,

00:58:56.775 --> 00:58:58.394
near death experiences.

00:58:59.445 --> 00:59:00.675
I've only been, you, you spend six

00:59:00.675 --> 00:59:03.585
months in a Marxist camp in China or anything like that.

00:59:03.644 --> 00:59:03.704
No.

00:59:04.599 --> 00:59:04.829
No, none.

00:59:05.385 --> 00:59:06.795
I did, I did.

00:59:06.795 --> 00:59:09.855
Uh, sorry, I'm not trying to apply your remarks.

00:59:09.855 --> 00:59:15.375
I just, well, was like, oh my God, though, any story I tell is not gonna be cool because I've never murdered someone been ERs.

00:59:15.824 --> 00:59:19.215
But, uh, you know, six months in Marcus camp, but

00:59:19.244 --> 00:59:19.635
not yet.

00:59:19.724 --> 00:59:20.204
Not yet.

00:59:20.295 --> 00:59:21.105
I mean, there's still time.

00:59:21.105 --> 00:59:23.114
There is still time things are going, you know?

00:59:23.204 --> 00:59:23.594
Yeah.

00:59:23.684 --> 00:59:29.204
Oh, did you hear that, uh, that Israel recognized the UK as a.

00:59:29.715 --> 00:59:31.094
Palestinians State recently.

00:59:31.094 --> 00:59:31.329
That was kind

00:59:31.329 --> 00:59:31.570
of them.

00:59:33.824 --> 00:59:34.815
It's for, for psychology.

00:59:35.894 --> 00:59:36.375
Sorry.

00:59:36.644 --> 00:59:37.155
It's terrible.

00:59:37.184 --> 00:59:38.775
It was, that was Blon being said that.

00:59:40.304 --> 00:59:40.994
Oh my gosh.

00:59:41.264 --> 00:59:43.034
Alright, we got, we'll get back on track.

00:59:44.385 --> 00:59:48.914
Alright, well I don't know if it's the craziest story, but, uh, but it's something we can wrap this thing up.

00:59:48.914 --> 00:59:50.204
We can, yeah, we can wrap it up.

00:59:50.204 --> 00:59:57.764
So, um, a friend of mine, when I was in my twenties, we went and worked in, uh, hostel in Turkey for three months.

00:59:58.215 --> 00:59:58.875
What part of Turkey?

00:59:58.994 --> 01:00:00.164
In the southern part of Turkey.

01:00:00.195 --> 01:00:00.465
Okay.

01:00:00.974 --> 01:00:01.514
In Olympus.

01:00:01.514 --> 01:00:04.005
It's kind of like a tourist town for Turkish people.

01:00:04.005 --> 01:00:04.034
Okay.

01:00:04.724 --> 01:00:12.405
Uh, we ended up leaving after a week for various reasons, but, uh, we ended up not knowing what to do for the.

01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:14.730
Other nine weeks we were there.

01:00:14.849 --> 01:00:15.150
Right.

01:00:15.449 --> 01:00:16.889
Oh, so you went to sign up for this thing?

01:00:16.889 --> 01:00:17.099
Yeah.

01:00:17.099 --> 01:00:18.614
And then you're like, no, we're not doing this.

01:00:18.690 --> 01:00:20.280
No, I'm not living here.

01:00:20.820 --> 01:00:29.550
I mean, it was like bunk bed, like two bunk beds and the, it was very moldy and it was just like, so we were sold, like Olympus is like, uh, you can go running.

01:00:29.550 --> 01:00:31.139
Its gorgeous and climbing, and it's on the beach.

01:00:31.170 --> 01:00:31.949
It's beautiful.

01:00:32.309 --> 01:00:34.829
But we had to work like eight to 10 hours a day every day.

01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:35.460
Right.

01:00:35.460 --> 01:00:38.099
And we got paid in alcohol and cigarettes and lodging.

01:00:39.449 --> 01:00:41.894
And so after a week I was like, I've not, I'm outta this deal.

01:00:42.074 --> 01:00:42.750
I'm not doing this.

01:00:43.170 --> 01:00:43.829
I'm not doing this.

01:00:43.829 --> 01:00:46.000
So, but then, you know, we're in our twenties and we're like, well.

01:00:46.530 --> 01:00:49.469
Yeah, we were supposed to be in Turkey for three months, so whatever we gonna do, like somebody

01:00:49.469 --> 01:00:51.150
should surely give us a camel or whatever.

01:00:51.750 --> 01:00:51.900
Yeah.

01:00:51.900 --> 01:00:51.909
Something.

01:00:51.909 --> 01:00:56.070
So we, uh, end up, we went to, we flew over to Croatia.

01:00:56.489 --> 01:00:56.699
Oh.

01:00:57.360 --> 01:00:58.650
And we're like, well, we just landed there.

01:00:58.650 --> 01:00:59.940
And we're like, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

01:01:00.074 --> 01:01:01.590
You, you need a visa or anything?

01:01:01.769 --> 01:01:02.559
It was just No, you were cool.

01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:02.815
We just

01:01:02.849 --> 01:01:03.420
fly over.

01:01:03.510 --> 01:01:03.719
Yeah.

01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:06.389
And, uh, so we ended up running a Chevy Spark.

01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:06.780
Oh,

01:01:06.780 --> 01:01:07.139
cool.

01:01:07.275 --> 01:01:08.909
And we lived in it for 12 days.

01:01:09.179 --> 01:01:09.630
Nice.

01:01:09.635 --> 01:01:09.775
Yeah.

01:01:09.775 --> 01:01:10.054
Yeah.

01:01:10.349 --> 01:01:10.619
Yeah.

01:01:10.619 --> 01:01:12.630
It's a very luxurious car you've ever seen.

01:01:12.630 --> 01:01:13.980
I drove actually back from.

01:01:14.594 --> 01:01:16.485
My wife got her first COVID.

01:01:16.545 --> 01:01:16.724
Yeah.

01:01:16.784 --> 01:01:20.474
Uh, and we drove back from California in a Chevy Spark Park and a Chevy Spark.

01:01:20.655 --> 01:01:21.375
Lots of leg room.

01:01:21.614 --> 01:01:21.764
Yeah.

01:01:21.764 --> 01:01:27.434
Only it's only six Joe Rogan episodes from Palm Desert to Fort Collins.

01:01:27.494 --> 01:01:27.824
Yeah.

01:01:27.914 --> 01:01:28.695
Anyway, continue.

01:01:28.695 --> 01:01:30.644
So we lived in this, uh, Chevy Spark.

01:01:30.764 --> 01:01:36.914
Thankfully my friend is, uh, shorter than I am, so she took up the backseat and I slept in the, oh goodness.

01:01:36.914 --> 01:01:41.750
Somebody always had us sleep in the driver's seat because we would park in neighborhoods and that re reclines back all the way.

01:01:41.750 --> 01:01:41.909
Yeah.

01:01:41.909 --> 01:01:42.150
Yeah.

01:01:42.164 --> 01:01:46.844
And you know, we, because this was kind of before Croatia was really touristy and so

01:01:46.940 --> 01:01:47.230
Dang,

01:01:47.445 --> 01:01:48.224
we just didn't really, so

01:01:48.224 --> 01:01:49.784
what did you do with selves?

01:01:49.815 --> 01:01:49.994
We

01:01:49.994 --> 01:01:51.644
would kind of sleep overnight.

01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:55.230
But then what we would do is wake up and go find a beach and then go sleep on it.

01:01:55.230 --> 01:01:57.030
But Croatia has private beaches.

01:01:57.030 --> 01:01:57.090
Yeah.

01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:02.460
So inevitably someone would walk down the beach and yell at us, Hey, get outta the fuck outta here, or get outta my private property.

01:02:02.489 --> 01:02:03.030
Interesting.

01:02:03.059 --> 01:02:03.239
So

01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:06.449
then we'd like drive around, find different towns, go swimming, you know.

01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:11.820
But, uh, one night we were camped kind of in this field and, you know, we

01:02:12.030 --> 01:02:14.670
trying to get away from the hustle and bustle and being yelled at all the time.

01:02:14.670 --> 01:02:14.760
Yes.

01:02:15.059 --> 01:02:20.010
So we were trying to sleep and there was just like, you know when you're out and you're just like, there's someone here.

01:02:20.664 --> 01:02:24.969
You know, and you're just like, but we had cloth up on the windows, you know, and things like this.

01:02:24.969 --> 01:02:25.130
Right?

01:02:25.135 --> 01:02:27.625
And you don't wanna like look out, right?

01:02:27.715 --> 01:02:39.894
You're just like, so we're just sitting there and I'm in the driver's seat and my friend crawls up into the passenger seat and we're just like, like you can kind of hear things and who knows if it's your mind, but we're just like, there's someone out there.

01:02:40.255 --> 01:02:41.755
So you didn't peak, you know, we didn't peak.

01:02:41.755 --> 01:02:47.809
But what we ended up doing is just you had to turn it on, put it in drive and floor it as fast as you can and then take the window covering off.

01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:49.570
Well the window covering off.

01:02:50.309 --> 01:02:52.010
And what you don't dunno if there's any way there.

01:02:52.010 --> 01:02:52.289
I dunno.

01:02:52.289 --> 01:02:52.650
I dunno.

01:02:52.974 --> 01:02:53.605
You're also in like

01:02:53.605 --> 01:02:56.125
back country Croatian dirt roads in a Chevy Spark.

01:02:57.085 --> 01:02:57.715
Two in the morning.

01:02:57.719 --> 01:02:58.704
Tuck yourself into it though.

01:02:58.735 --> 01:02:59.275
Yeah, we did.

01:02:59.275 --> 01:02:59.844
We did.

01:02:59.905 --> 01:03:00.324
So.

01:03:01.094 --> 01:03:01.394
Yeah.

01:03:01.454 --> 01:03:06.585
I never, I'll never know if there was someone there, but now Chevy Sparks have a, a special place in my heart.

01:03:06.585 --> 01:03:07.605
I really like that story.

01:03:07.610 --> 01:03:07.690
Yeah.

01:03:07.695 --> 01:03:07.815
Yeah.

01:03:07.815 --> 01:03:09.284
It was a great, it was a great adventure.

01:03:09.315 --> 01:03:09.554
Well,

01:03:10.005 --> 01:03:11.130
I hope you enjoyed your time here today.

01:03:11.130 --> 01:03:11.650
I had a great time.

01:03:11.925 --> 01:03:12.914
You good luck in November.

01:03:12.945 --> 01:03:13.394
Thank you.

01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:14.144
Thanks for having me.

01:03:14.170 --> 01:03:16.755
And oh, and do you know which one of those you would like to choose?

01:03:17.085 --> 01:03:18.014
They're also good.

01:03:18.105 --> 01:03:18.585
They are.

01:03:18.974 --> 01:03:21.164
I would choose the biggest one'cause I'm from North Dakota.

01:03:23.114 --> 01:03:24.449
The valley proposition is,

01:03:26.625 --> 01:03:27.375
that's amazing.

01:03:27.735 --> 01:03:28.545
What was your favorite?

01:03:29.355 --> 01:03:32.414
Um, probably the popcorn salt.

01:03:32.775 --> 01:03:33.974
Oh, I really like that.

01:03:34.005 --> 01:03:34.125
Yeah.

01:03:34.125 --> 01:03:37.005
Becausecause, you don't really get Parmesan flavor on popcorn very often.

01:03:37.005 --> 01:03:37.304
That's true.

01:03:37.304 --> 01:03:37.579
Or like fall.

01:03:37.579 --> 01:03:39.105
It's such a robust flavor.

01:03:39.105 --> 01:03:39.344
Yeah.

01:03:39.344 --> 01:03:42.135
That would stick right in your popcorn and be like I know,

01:03:42.135 --> 01:03:43.545
but the black garlic was so unique.

01:03:43.605 --> 01:03:44.474
Yeah, that too.

01:03:44.505 --> 01:03:44.835
Yeah.

01:03:45.105 --> 01:03:45.434
Alright.

01:03:45.494 --> 01:03:45.675
Yeah.

01:03:45.855 --> 01:03:46.635
We can talk about it later.

01:03:46.664 --> 01:03:46.905
That's true.

01:03:46.905 --> 01:03:47.594
I don't have favorites.

01:03:47.594 --> 01:03:49.005
You don't have to do it on this episode.

01:03:49.005 --> 01:03:49.335
That'd be great.

01:03:49.335 --> 01:03:49.394
Yeah.

01:03:49.394 --> 01:03:52.545
You don't want, wanna alienate any of the uh,

01:03:52.784 --> 01:03:55.034
I don't want the other spices to feel bad about themselves.

01:03:55.934 --> 01:03:56.474
Thanks much.

01:03:56.534 --> 01:03:57.164
Thank you for having me.

01:03:57.164 --> 01:03:57.434
Bye for now.