BONUS EPISODE - #3 Hot Nugs Conversation with Tricia Canonico for Mayor of the City of Fort Collins

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Tricia Konica is a candidate for Fort Collins Mayor.

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And join me for the third of our Hot Ns conversations, a collaboration between Loco Think Tank, Matador, Mexican Grill, old Town Spice Shop, and the Loco Experience Podcast.

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Please visit Tricia for Foco to learn more about her platform and make sure to vote by or before November 4th, 2025.

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Welcome back to the Loco Experience Podcast.

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Another episode of the bonus series, hot Nugs, conversations with the Fort Collins Mayors candidates.

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My guest today is Tricia Kako and she is joining us here at the studio at the local experience.

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Hi, welcome.

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Thanks for having me on.

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How excited are you about, uh, the hot sauces

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today?

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Um.

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On a one to 10?

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Yeah, I'm not really sure.

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Maybe a nine.

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Oh, really?

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So you're pretty excited.

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Just

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a little curious about what the hottest one's gonna be.

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So

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you wish we had more hot ones?

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No.

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Oh, okay.

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Decidedly not.

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Alright.

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'cause we could do that.

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We have one more adaptation.

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Nope.

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We could pump it up a notch.

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Nope.

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All good.

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Okay.

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Well one of your opponents, uh.

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Is like allergic to a bunch of peppers and spices and stuff.

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So we're gonna have to figure out a whole different thing there.

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I'm guessing it's Emily.

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Yeah.

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So these guys are working on that.

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I'm not the foodie, they're the foodies, but we're gonna keep her safe.

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Yeah.

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And hopefully challenge her taste buds a little bit.

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That's don't kill off any of the.

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I, I really like Emily.

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We're friends.

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Well, um, we have, as you know, a, a handful of questions each tied to, uh, a, a nugget.

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And as soon as we get our first, um, dip in here, which is actually just a, uh, barbecue sauce from Matador, then we will have that, um, Ava, are you on that with the barbecue sauce?

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Or Sean or, okay.

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Thank you.

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So, um, we'll just first dip taste.

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Okay.

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Um, we're just doing one container, but most of the candidates are okay with a double dip.

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As long as you flip policy.

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It's

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no direct double dipping.

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Yeah.

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No direct

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double dipping, you know.

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Um, but, uh, you might want a little more sauce for the other side of the nugget, so we'll just do that and then I'll ask the first question.

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Okay.

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I didn't say that before the No double dip unless you flip, but I like it.

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I like a,

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I think I'm not gonna double dip because that's gonna be a lot of nugget eating by the end.

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Yes.

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And if you

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don't wanna finish a nugget, we can, you know, you can leave them half finished too.

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Depends on how late your lunch was.

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So

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that is very delicious barbecue sauce.

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Yes, I agree.

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What would you say if you were trying to describe it to somebody?

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Um.

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I worked in this, uh, restaurant industry for a long time.

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Hmm, okay.

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In college and, uh, grad school.

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And my favorite description of a wine was, it was Foxy.

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Okay.

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I don't know if I'd call this foxy, but I think it's really got some interesting characteristics and I'm thinking about, you know, the finish and all of that.

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Nice.

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That's really nice.

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I like it.

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I think that's a pretty apt description actually.

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'cause it is.

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I was almost gonna describe it as a specimen barbecue sauce.

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Like it's just kind of what you want.

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Mm-hmm.

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But it's too much more unique than like a traditional barbecue

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sauce.

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Yeah.

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No.

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It's got

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too many other spices kind of running around in there, playing with you.

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Yeah.

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A lot of interesting things going on in your mouth.

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Yeah, it's actually spicy too.

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'cause I can tell, I'm, I'm gonna have a, a, a long, sweaty conversation today'cause I'm kind of already sweaty.

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Um, James Merkley, uh, one of our.

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Co collaborators here with Story Path Creative asks, what is your fondest story to share about the people or community of Fort Collins?

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You know, what I think really strikes me about our community is how generous everyone is.

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Hmm.

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And so, um, throughout my time in Fort Collins, I've been here for 15 years now.

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I.

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I really tried to bring together community.

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Um, and so when I see a need, I just have stepped up.

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Okay.

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Um, and I started feed the NOCO front line.

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Immediately following, uh, the outbreak of COVID.

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And, uh, within five weeks we raised$40,000 to help support local restaurants.

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We supported over 50 restaurants and to feed all of the health facilities, um, across Northern Colorado.

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Oh, wow.

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And just to see the people step up.

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I was talking with, um, a business owner yesterday and she asked me what made me think I could succeed with that.

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And prior to that, um, I was in spin class one day.

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My spin instructor mentioned that her daughter was going through third round of cancer.

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Mm-hmm.

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And they wanted to go see YouTube and couldn't afford it.

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Hmm.

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So I put together a fundraiser for her.

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We got them there.

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We got the backstage passes, front row tickets of, uh, makeovers, photo session, limo dinner out, and then had it had a little

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private make abo.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And then, uh, it then became a benefit concert at odells with a YouTube cover band.

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Oh, wow.

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And we raised a lot of money to help with her medical bills, so.

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Knowing, just putting that out there in the community and that it succeeded.

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Yeah.

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I just had a feeling when we did this for our healthcare workers and our restaurants, everybody would wanna get involved and Yeah, and they did.

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I remember Focal Cafe in particular really did a lot of meal delivery within that effort as well.

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Was that part of your coalition, if you will, or not necessarily?

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I think, you know, talking with this business owner yesterday, she had done a small.

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Um, one on her own where, oh, some people had donated a few thousand dollars to Yeah.

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Her coffee shop.

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And then, um, so maybe no cofa there were some independence.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Fair enough.

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Okay.

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I think we're ready for the next.

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Okay.

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Uh, this one's a rub actually.

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Thank you.

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It's been a found favor.

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This is the, uh, Buffalo rub from Old Town Spice Shop.

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Great.

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So ladies, first this time, I'm sorry I jumped in front of you last time.

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Okay.

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Oh, it's got a little curry to it.

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Mm-hmm.

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It's really good.

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Little spicy.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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I can see if you rubbed something with this and then seared it a little bit, it might really be nice.

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Yeah.

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I'm thinking like a veggie stir fry.

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Mm-hmm.

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So not even on using it as a rub.

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More straight seasoning is what?

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Well, as a side, so chicken or shrimp.

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It'd be really nice.

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You'd like how I set myself up there by taking a bite right before.

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It was my turn to talk.

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Our next one is from Paul, who you just met from Matador Mexican Grill.

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Mm-hmm.

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What is your plan to help support small businesses to start and grow in Northern Colorado?

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Yeah.

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Um, I was a small business owner myself.

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I sold my business when I moved to Fort Collins.

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Oh, really?

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Yeah.

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Can I ask what?

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Business was.

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Sure It

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was, um, in the hobby and craft industry.

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Okay.

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And then I kind of expanded into a travel component as well.

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So I put on, um, a conference on the island of Menos in Greece.

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Oh wow.

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Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

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I really enjoyed it.

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But moving and having a third child and my husband working in Denver, um, just thought it was a little much to Yeah, fair to keep on.

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So, um, anyway, you know, having been a small business owner, I'm aware of.

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A lot of the issues that they encounter trying to make payroll, um, you know, all the added expenses right now.

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Yeah.

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Um, yeah.

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Insurance goes up every year.

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Your customers don't like it if your prices go up every year, but they have to.

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Yeah.

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And the, uh, you know, um, taxes right now, property taxes have really increased.

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Yeah.

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And if you're not the owner, your rent does instead.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um, but for the interest, um, I.

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For small businesses in general, we have the multicultural and entrepreneurial center that I would like to keep us moving forward with and providing those services to our small business owners to help them succeed.

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But I also also think there's some interesting things that we could do with a restaurant industry, like start a food incubator and look at, um, underutilized city properties where we could help them kind of advance.

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So I think about, um.

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Taco Stop and what's the other one I, oh, bread chick.

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How they started out, you know, very small farmer's market or as a food truck, and now how they have expanded their business and how can we help other restaurants move in that direction.

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We all love good food.

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Mm-hmm.

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Good sauces.

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Good rubs.

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Yeah.

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But how do we help as a city to see our small businesses succeed?

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And I think those are a couple things that we can be doing as a city.

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Okay.

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All right, thank you.

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I think we're ready for number three, and this one is the honey jalapeno sauce also from Matador.

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Okay.

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And

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several of our guests have really enjoyed it, or not several.

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You're our third.

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So two prior.

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Okay.

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So hopefully with the honey it's got a little sweetness and not too spicy.

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Yeah, it's

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not too spicy.

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Just a little dab two.

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It's getting spicy for you.

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What's that?

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Was that a, that's actually kind of spicy.

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Look.

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No, no, no, no.

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I was, um, trying to figure out how to describe it.

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Hmm.

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Yes.

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It's part of the game.

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Yeah.

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So nice.

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It's got that honey starts out kind of mellow and then has that.

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Yeah.

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After bird, like a late latent heat almost.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Hmm.

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So was your experience in the restaurant industry before you started your business?

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Yeah, so throughout college and grad school I worked in with a hostess, um, server in a lot of different restaurants.

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Yeah.

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Um, and where did you come from,

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if I may?

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So coming to Fort Collins was my 24th move.

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Oh boy.

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So is your husband like in corporate or something, you moved around with him or was your family early?

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Both of us grew up in the military.

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Okay.

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And so by the time I graduated from high school, I had gone to 12 different schools.

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Wow.

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And had moved, I think 18 times by then.

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So I had lived, um, I've lived in Germany, the UK a couple times, Paris, all over the East coast, Midwest.

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Yeah, Oregon and Colorado a couple

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times.

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And then how long in Fort Collins now?

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We've been here since 2010.

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Okay.

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So I think that's really a testament to how much we love this city.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And uh, you know, it's been a great place to raise our three children.

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Yeah,

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that's really neat.

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It's a hard place to leave.

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For sure.

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It's a really hard place to leave.

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We have no intentions of leading.

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Our third question is from, uh, mayor Wade Trel, former mayor.

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Um, Fort Collins has been described as the choice city of Colorado and is known for beers, bikes, and bands and more.

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What is your vision for the evolving brand for the city of Fort Collins?

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In 30 years, what might that look like?

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So I think we'll see a lot of the same things that we're proud of today.

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Yeah.

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Uh, you know, this thriving, amazing downtown area, the great outdoor spaces that we have.

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Definitely bikes.

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Yeah.

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Um, level road bikes, but really beefed up.

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So I'd love to see us become the, um.

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First diamond level, uh, bike friendly community in the country.

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We're one of five platinum level.

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Okay.

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And so I think we need to strive and get to okay, feed that next level.

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So I'd like to see that happen in the next 30 years.

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Um, I think we continue to be a place where art and culture thrive, where we have incredible restaurants.

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Keep the beers and, um, other things like that.

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But I'm also on the front range passenger rail district board.

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Hmm.

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So working to bring rail to Fort Collins by 2029.

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Okay.

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And so I hope we have a, a thriving rail line and we have alternatives on ways to get up and down the front range.

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I've thought about that a lot in the past as an easier way for.

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Commuters to get to Denver for their work and stuff, but probably just as impactful as an easier way for Denverites to get the hell out of Dodge and come up to Fort Collins for the weekend too.

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Yeah.

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So really the economic impact that that could have for our community.

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Yeah.

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And then also, well if we go

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down there and get our paychecks and then they come up here and spend their money.

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Yeah.

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That's a double.

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Yeah.

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Double whammy.

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Keep going.

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Sorry.

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Oh no, that's good.

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And you know, I mean, now you try to get to Denver and you don't know if you're gonna get there safely or if you're gonna get there in an hour or three hours.

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I was down just in Commerce City on Saturday, and it took me two and a half hours to get home.

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Yeah.

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So.

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I think everyone will be excited to see another way to travel in our state.

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Yeah.

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So I'm excited for that.

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And then I think we're gonna just continue to be this forward looking, innovative place.

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I hope we see some of the, um, new sectors that really fit well with what we're doing.

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Yeah.

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Like climate, maybe we could

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add brains, brains, beers, bikes like it, bikes and bands.

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B four.

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Yeah.

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Before 2030.

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Yeah.

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Um, well, we're already got a lot of brains here and that's part of, we do, you know, why we succeed is we've got, we over punch in terms of our, uh, intellectual and educational capabilities for a town of our size.

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Right?

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Like I would say, um, I represent district three, which is the southeast corner of the city.

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Okay?

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Yep.

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And 9% of the district has a PhD.

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Oh, my.

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I know.

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And I, for real,

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for real.

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I think that's really an incredible statistic.

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Um, I can't imagine there's that many, uh, council districts across the country that have that percentage of PhDs in them.

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I

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wouldn't imagine very many places.

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Um, I think we're ready for number four.

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Eva.

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Snappy that time.

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Good job.

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Is this the rebel uprising?

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It looks like the rebel uprising.

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This is one, this is one of my favorites, if not my favorite from among these various.

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It's got a little more punch, you'll notice and, uh, we can get our milks filled up after when we take a break here after this question.

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But, um, I think it has a very nice, uh, profile.

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Yeah, it's, it's pretty smooth.

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It's getting hot.

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It's getting a little warm in here.

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It's getting hot in here.

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Oh wait.

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Explicit lyrics ahead.

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You might be my mayor here a few months.

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Um, how would you describe, if you will, to somebody, uh, wondering what the rebel uprising is like?

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Um, I.

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I would say more of a Mexican flare.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, definitely spice forward.

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Mm-hmm.

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Feeling it in the front of my tongue.

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Um, yeah.

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Kind of a tomato forward, I would say for a hot sauce these days.

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Yeah.

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Taking it up a notch.

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Good.

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Good.

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Mm-hmm.

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Well then you'll be ready for milk here after this question.

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This one's from Sean, old Town Spice Shop.

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The proposal for paid on street parking in Fort Collins aims to address revenue and parking turnover.

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How do you plan to balance the city's need for revenue and parking management with the concerns of business owners and customers regarding accessibility and affordability?

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Yeah, so I think we really need to be mindful as we move forward.

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How do we ameliorate, um, the adverse impacts of a program like this?

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Um, I'm.

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Interested to see it come forward to, uh, city council for first reading.

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Um, and I, as I said, you know, as a small business owner, I understand those worries and concerns about what your customer base continues to look like.

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Um, I think the staff has really researched this deeply and, you know, I, I look to our peer communities.

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Yeah.

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Do you know what the proposal is at this point?

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Yeah.

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Um, it will be paid parking in the garage and also the streets.

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Okay.

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It's looking at, um, a dollar 50 to$2 an hour on streets.

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Um, slightly more for the parking garages to Okay.

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Kind of incentivize, um, people who are staying longer term to use the garages.

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And then, so out of the 19 peer communities, 16 have paid parking.

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So, um.

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You know, and looking at that list, these are thriving communities that have strong businesses.

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Um, so I, I think we can work it out and make it work for everyone.

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Yeah.

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And then also I think that is how will

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people pay just those little QR code scanner things, just like the.

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City paid parking lots now and different things.

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Yeah.

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And my hope is that we move towards more of a European system, um, where once your license plate is in the system, that's it.

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You don't have to think about it again.

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It automatically does it for you.

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Oh, interesting.

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So as you enter.

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Or leave a, a parking lot or parking garage.

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You're charged.

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Yeah.

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And'cause I do think like you're in a hurry and you I was pain in

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my butt.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I don't care about the money as much as I do, like Right.

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Hoping the app doesn't not work.

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Right.

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Or I mistype my credit card number if it's the first time I'm using it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I hope we think about the ease of use as we move forward.

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Would there, would there, and could there be any kind of like a.

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Annual pass or locals pass, I think about like for employees of our restaurants and of the various retail shops and things like that.

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For, for them that dollar 50 an hour is a lot.

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Yeah.

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You know, that's 10% of their wage almost, you know, 8% of their wage sometimes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I think about that too.

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Um, I worked in Larimer Square.

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In grad school.

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Yeah.

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And I'd get there, you're familiar, 5 55 and think I didn't have to pay the meter and inevitably I'd get a ticket.

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Um, but yeah, you know, you have to think about how that's going to impact employees who, um, are lo lower wage and No, but the

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proposal right now doesn't have any kind of allowance for that.

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No, but

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I, I can address that when we bring that forward.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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But I think the opportunity here too is how we can better use our curb space.

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Um.

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So more for deliveries or for handicap accessible?

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I, um.

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I had a bike accident in the fall and broke my ankle, so, okay.

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It was a really great exercise as an elected official to be mobility impaired and be on a scooter and really have to think more about getting around and the accessibility and, you know, getting off a curb.

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Um, so.

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I think we need to make sure we have adequate parking for, um, our

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Oh, so that on street parking?

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Yeah.

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So it, it'll allow us to rejigger and then also, you know, 15 minutes spots for people who are picking up something quickly.

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Quickly.

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There really isn't

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very good handicap parking downtown is there?

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There's not a ton, I would say.

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Yeah.

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I haven't tried to notice that.

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I noticed when I go to.

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Whatever target and there's 11 empty handicap spots.

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Yeah.

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You know, I noticed that The Economist to me is like, okay, you know?

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Yeah.

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But should be

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a flex option.

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You know?

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That's a valuable commodity when you really think about it.

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Our curbside parking in our old town area, and how can we maximize that for everyone's benefit?

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Yeah.

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No, and I can, I can make a strong argument for those that are ability impaired in that way.

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In particular, that.

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The current system of driving around hoping to find a street parking, I wish we could get more people to just use the parking garages more.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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And I guess that's part of the notion is people would actually use these parking garages if they had to be in for a a, a trifle on the street too.

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Yeah.

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Hopefully.

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Yeah.

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Alright, well let's take a break Oh.

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Yeah.

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and we're back.

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Thanks to morning Fresh dairy for equipping us for this next segment.

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The next one's not too bad.

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Okay, this is the Matador buffalo sauce.

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Okay,

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so ladies first again, please.

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You didn't make us happy with a face on that one or as a spice

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No, I'm trying to, um, I'm afraid I'm not gonna be a really good, um, describer of the sauces, but that one, it didn't taste very buffalo to me.

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It was a really nice flavor.

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It has a little bit more barbecue.

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That's, that's what I would, components I would say, Paul, we think you should just rebrand this as like spicy barbecue or something because the buffalo rub.

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It tastes like buffalo is supposed to.

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Yeah, the Frank's hot sauce plus buttery flavors kind of thing.

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So sorry you're not the first to kind of dis on the

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I'm not to think.

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Nice.

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It's good, it's lovely.

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It's good.

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It just isn't Buffalo we eat.

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Yeah.

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The, I guess that was what I was trying to figure out flavor.

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Yeah, that's the Love you Paul.

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Odd look.

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Even though though, uh, we're uncertain about your naming on that one.

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Um, the next question.

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Okay.

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Is our social hot topic.

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How would you rate the city of Fort Collins on its homelessness initiatives in recent decades and recent years?

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And what changes would you recommend to the program going forward?

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Yeah, I think we've done a lot of great work since I got on council in 2021, you know, right after COVID.

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Sure.

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Um, so, and the need

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was probably the most extreme for a while there.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Over the big camps, over by Schrader's Country store and stuff like that.

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Yeah, so we have the Hope team, which um, works with, um, our population and experience homelessness.

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And we also have Outreach Fort Collins.

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So

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City of Fort Collins has a hope team Yes.

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Of the, oh, is that right?

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Police services.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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And then we, and I'm

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familiar with Outreach Fort Collins that came to my Rotary Club, but please share a little bit about that.

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'cause I don't think people know about it much.00:24:24.141 --> 00:24:24.980


About outreach?00:24:24.980 --> 00:24:25.730


Fort Collins?00:24:25.730 --> 00:24:25.790


Yeah.00:24:25.790 --> 00:24:26.480


Or the Hope team?00:24:26.510 --> 00:24:26.661


Either way.00:24:27.080 --> 00:24:28.971


Again, they help provide resources.00:24:28.971 --> 00:24:41.871


So if you, um, encounter someone who is experiencing homelessness, you can reach out to Outreach Fort Collins and they can help, um, get those individuals squared away with resources.00:24:41.901 --> 00:24:41.931


Okay.00:24:42.020 --> 00:24:48.111


Um, and then the same thing with our Hope team, which, um, is police services again.00:24:48.931 --> 00:24:49.471


Wonderful.00:24:49.471 --> 00:24:51.330


Officer Annie leads that team.00:24:51.421 --> 00:24:51.661


Okay.00:24:51.750 --> 00:25:04.770


And, um, I've been able to do a ride along with them and just really see them in action and their compassion and the work they do to really work with those experiencing homelessness to make sure they're taken care of.00:25:04.800 --> 00:25:05.340


Um,00:25:05.611 --> 00:25:07.465


so you feel like they've been doing a pretty good job the last.00:25:08.115 --> 00:25:08.506


Decade?00:25:08.925 --> 00:25:11.570


Uh, yeah, since, since I've been on on, especially since you've been there.00:25:11.570 --> 00:25:11.580


Okay.00:25:11.895 --> 00:25:12.316


Yeah.00:25:12.586 --> 00:25:14.596


I mean, there's still a lot of work to do.00:25:14.596 --> 00:25:15.256


Um, yeah.00:25:15.256 --> 00:25:20.415


We know we had the fire recently at, um, the rescue mission here in Fort Collins.00:25:21.016 --> 00:25:21.796


Oh, I don't think I knew about that.00:25:21.796 --> 00:25:22.786


I don't read the news very much.00:25:23.955 --> 00:25:24.556


Yeah.00:25:24.556 --> 00:25:27.076


So maybe that was about a month ago.00:25:27.076 --> 00:25:27.105


Okay.00:25:27.195 --> 00:25:29.355


And a kitchen fire.00:25:29.415 --> 00:25:31.635


And so they don't have any kitchen facilities.00:25:31.635 --> 00:25:32.625


They're not in the building.00:25:32.625 --> 00:25:35.326


So we're have temporary shelter right now.00:25:35.330 --> 00:25:35.510


Oh wow.00:25:36.096 --> 00:25:42.246


Uh, fortunately there we are celebrating the ground groundbreaking of the new shelter.00:25:42.276 --> 00:25:42.336


Yeah.00:25:42.336 --> 00:25:46.056


Which will have much more capacity than the rescue mission here.00:25:46.056 --> 00:25:49.056


I, I believe it's the next week or two.00:25:49.086 --> 00:25:49.445


Sorry.00:25:49.445 --> 00:25:49.455


Yeah.00:25:49.455 --> 00:25:49.550


Yeah.00:25:49.550 --> 00:25:50.391


I haven't, I remember It's00:25:50.391 --> 00:25:50.510


right.00:25:50.590 --> 00:25:50.711


Upcoming.00:25:50.740 --> 00:25:51.030


Yeah.00:25:51.036 --> 00:25:51.125


I.00:25:51.976 --> 00:25:52.246


Yeah.00:25:52.246 --> 00:25:54.645


So that'll be an exciting move forward.00:25:55.185 --> 00:25:55.246


Yeah.00:25:55.246 --> 00:25:58.006


And that'll be, um, trauma informed design.00:25:58.246 --> 00:25:59.865


It'll be wraparound services.00:25:59.865 --> 00:26:01.635


It'll be a 24 hour shelter.00:26:01.905 --> 00:26:06.465


So I really am hopeful about, um, the services that'll be provided there.00:26:06.615 --> 00:26:06.855


Yeah.00:26:07.455 --> 00:26:17.026


Then we have so many great partners that are working in the community that are, are trying to help, um, with this issue and, and help everyone who's unfortunately in that position.00:26:17.746 --> 00:26:23.836


Um, and then I, I think, you know, we are looking at some more.00:26:24.421 --> 00:26:28.320


Difficult moments ahead, potentially because Loveland's closing their shelter.00:26:29.221 --> 00:26:30.540


Um, Loveland's,00:26:30.901 --> 00:26:41.520


that was kind of gonna be my question is like, does having this amazing shelter with all these wraparound services and things like that potentially become a magnet for those experiencing homelessness?00:26:41.520 --> 00:26:48.451


Like everybody in Lovelin currently experiencing homelessness is gonna be like, Hey, they got a great new place up there in Fort Collins.00:26:48.780 --> 00:26:50.671


Yeah, I, I don't really think so.00:26:50.941 --> 00:26:51.990


Um, last time I.00:26:52.486 --> 00:26:54.226


We really dug in on the data.00:26:54.346 --> 00:26:54.435


Okay.00:26:54.465 --> 00:27:01.096


Um, for continuum of care, which is, um, works with all of Northern Colorado on this issue.00:27:01.185 --> 00:27:02.145


Um, they.00:27:03.121 --> 00:27:07.320


I believe it was a very low percentage that were from outside of Larimer County.00:27:07.411 --> 00:27:09.901


So what we're seeing is, okay, it's, it's our own.00:27:09.901 --> 00:27:10.230


So it's not00:27:10.230 --> 00:27:11.131


much transient.00:27:11.131 --> 00:27:12.931


It's Yes, it's homegrown.00:27:13.020 --> 00:27:13.351


Yeah.00:27:13.355 --> 00:27:13.465


Homeless.00:27:13.830 --> 00:27:21.211


And so another component of all this is how do we make Fort Collins more affordable for, um, those that live here, that work here?00:27:21.211 --> 00:27:21.570


I think we had a00:27:21.570 --> 00:27:22.921


question on that front coming up.00:27:23.250 --> 00:27:24.451


Oh, here later, don't we?00:27:24.871 --> 00:27:25.411


I forget.00:27:25.411 --> 00:27:26.221


I don't think so.00:27:26.226 --> 00:27:27.661


I'm not, no, let's talk about it then.00:27:28.141 --> 00:27:29.340


No, it should have made the list, but it's,00:27:29.611 --> 00:27:30.090


yeah.00:27:30.090 --> 00:27:30.840


And so I'm, I'm.00:27:31.250 --> 00:27:36.891


Proud of our, um, eviction prevention fund that we've funded through this cycle.00:27:37.040 --> 00:27:37.070


Okay.00:27:37.070 --> 00:27:43.070


Um,$440,000 for, um, both 20 25, 20 26 Okay.00:27:43.070 --> 00:27:45.141


To help keep people in their houses.00:27:45.381 --> 00:27:45.651


Okay.00:27:45.980 --> 00:27:47.000


And then, um, it's like00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:50.266


if they're facing eviction, they can be like, Hey, I need Yeah.00:27:50.336 --> 00:27:50.826


Some help.00:27:50.826 --> 00:27:50.836


Yeah.00:27:50.836 --> 00:27:51.020


It's milk.00:27:51.141 --> 00:27:51.621


Yeah.00:27:51.621 --> 00:27:56.901


And then we, again, we have so many great programs like Neighbor to Neighbor that helps to keep people in their houses.00:27:56.901 --> 00:27:56.961


Yeah.00:27:56.961 --> 00:27:57.260


Don't kill for00:27:57.260 --> 00:27:57.590


years.00:27:58.096 --> 00:27:58.516


What's that?00:27:58.605 --> 00:27:59.715


I've known Kelly for years.00:27:59.715 --> 00:27:59.955


Yeah.00:27:59.955 --> 00:28:03.226


I mean they did some amazing work, especially during the COVID Nation Times.00:28:03.256 --> 00:28:03.405


Yes.00:28:03.405 --> 00:28:03.736


Yeah.00:28:03.826 --> 00:28:05.865


And just so many incredible partners.00:28:05.895 --> 00:28:11.385


Um, and then I think we have to think about, um, our school district as well and how we partner with them.00:28:11.385 --> 00:28:13.605


'cause there are so many homeless students.00:28:13.786 --> 00:28:13.996


Hmm.00:28:14.145 --> 00:28:22.786


Um, and then I think another thing that we're looking at piloting now is a safe lot where people can be parked in their cars.00:28:22.786 --> 00:28:24.016


'cause we know so many.00:28:24.546 --> 00:28:26.705


Are forced to live in their cars.00:28:26.705 --> 00:28:28.296


They don't have other options.00:28:28.415 --> 00:28:29.945


That's an interesting notion actually.00:28:29.945 --> 00:28:30.036


Mm-hmm.00:28:30.276 --> 00:28:37.685


It would probably alleviate a lot of tenting and parking on in neighborhoods and whatever, right?00:28:37.715 --> 00:28:38.226


Yes.00:28:38.226 --> 00:28:41.236


And so loved one has had, uh, you know, not just loved one, but.00:28:41.955 --> 00:28:43.546


Communities across the country.00:28:43.605 --> 00:28:43.875


Yeah.00:28:44.115 --> 00:28:47.685


But loved ones had one in place for, uh, quite a while now.00:28:47.685 --> 00:28:59.086


And so really kind of working with them, using that as a model to see how we can have a successful program that doesn't have, um, outside, um, impacts on the neighborhood, not of overhead.00:28:59.445 --> 00:28:59.925


Yes.00:28:59.955 --> 00:29:00.286


Right.00:29:00.316 --> 00:29:00.465


Yeah.00:29:00.705 --> 00:29:01.155


You know, it's00:29:01.155 --> 00:29:04.965


just a, a, a space that's reasonably secure.00:29:05.175 --> 00:29:05.625


Yes.00:29:05.625 --> 00:29:09.165


And working with our community partners again, mostly, um.00:29:09.901 --> 00:29:11.191


Faith institutions.00:29:11.221 --> 00:29:11.520


Yeah.00:29:11.566 --> 00:29:14.611


To, to sponsor those safe lots.00:29:14.611 --> 00:29:14.760


Hmm.00:29:15.330 --> 00:29:21.300


I was thinking that you saw my big ambulance camper out here and my wife and I go on long road trips with it.00:29:21.300 --> 00:29:24.385


I want to eventually start taking like month long and working from the road and stuff.00:29:25.155 --> 00:29:27.915


But it would be nice if there was a lot of those safe lots I could pop in there.00:29:28.131 --> 00:29:28.330


Yeah.00:29:28.391 --> 00:29:31.665


It was in Lincoln, Nebraska or Fort Collins or you know, wherever.00:29:32.086 --> 00:29:37.395


Anyway, that's probably not what it's for, but I always like this city subsidized security for my rig.00:29:37.816 --> 00:29:37.905


Yeah.00:29:37.935 --> 00:29:40.185


Um, so Well thank you for that.00:29:40.246 --> 00:29:41.625


I think we're ready for the next one.00:29:44.596 --> 00:29:45.076


Pow.00:29:45.496 --> 00:29:51.586


This is, it's, it's pretty high up in our sequence, but in my opinion, it's not that spicy.00:29:51.586 --> 00:29:55.215


This is a jerk seasoning from, okay, uh, old Town Spice Shep.00:29:55.905 --> 00:29:59.895


Um, to me it doesn't hit as hard as the rebel or the buffalo.00:30:00.076 --> 00:30:01.875


Okay, give it a go.00:30:03.435 --> 00:30:04.576


Ladies first please.00:30:09.415 --> 00:30:09.905


Here we go.00:30:10.050 --> 00:30:10.471


Yeah.00:30:11.820 --> 00:30:20.911


I appreciate your, oh, I set you up for No, you just breathe.00:30:20.971 --> 00:30:22.891


You try to breathe the uh, sauce.00:30:22.891 --> 00:30:29.520


I will make some, I'll fill some dead time here while you're preparing yourself to respond.00:30:33.316 --> 00:30:34.665


I like the sweet side of that one.00:30:34.726 --> 00:30:34.965


Mm-hmm.00:30:36.316 --> 00:30:36.401


I agree.00:30:37.905 --> 00:30:38.715


And I like to milk.00:30:38.776 --> 00:30:41.266


The milk is really nice accompanying these things.00:30:41.266 --> 00:30:41.326


Yeah.00:30:41.986 --> 00:30:43.006


I mean, I like bourbon too.00:30:43.066 --> 00:30:43.665


You like beer?00:30:43.665 --> 00:30:46.605


You know, we, we like beers, bikes, bands, brains.00:30:47.355 --> 00:30:49.695


Uh, but milk also.00:30:49.695 --> 00:30:49.875


Good.00:30:50.566 --> 00:30:52.096


I'll have to come up with a B word for milk.00:30:53.476 --> 00:30:54.556


Bovine juice.00:30:54.736 --> 00:30:54.885


Yeah.00:30:57.286 --> 00:30:59.056


It's probably not like a par of our brand though.00:31:00.526 --> 00:31:00.586


No.00:31:00.586 --> 00:31:03.256


How would you like, you like the sweet part of that jerk?00:31:03.885 --> 00:31:04.276


I do.00:31:04.276 --> 00:31:04.605


Um.00:31:05.010 --> 00:31:07.830


Would you like jerk chicken in general, or jerk, whatever else?00:31:08.250 --> 00:31:08.760


Jerk shrimp.00:31:08.971 --> 00:31:10.381


Jerk shrimp, but jerk chicken.00:31:10.411 --> 00:31:10.471


Yeah.00:31:10.471 --> 00:31:10.560


You're00:31:10.560 --> 00:31:11.401


more of a shrimp girl.00:31:11.911 --> 00:31:12.191


Sounds like.00:31:12.276 --> 00:31:13.020


I do like seafood.00:31:13.080 --> 00:31:13.381


Yeah.00:31:13.830 --> 00:31:14.490


What's your favorite?00:31:15.060 --> 00:31:15.121


Hmm.00:31:17.550 --> 00:31:19.980


Well, I did live in Maine for a couple years.00:31:20.010 --> 00:31:20.280


Okay.00:31:20.881 --> 00:31:23.851


And we could get a lobster for$3 and 50 cents a pound.00:31:24.391 --> 00:31:24.750


Right.00:31:25.441 --> 00:31:29.490


And our favorite place to go for live lobsters was the grocery, not the grocery store.00:31:29.490 --> 00:31:31.050


The, um, gas station on the corner.00:31:31.171 --> 00:31:31.500


Oh, wait.00:31:31.681 --> 00:31:31.921


Yeah.00:31:32.250 --> 00:31:34.351


They just had a pot full of live lobsters ready to go.00:31:34.740 --> 00:31:34.980


Yeah.00:31:35.490 --> 00:31:36.090


They had a tank.00:31:36.121 --> 00:31:36.330


Yeah.00:31:36.391 --> 00:31:37.111


In the gas station.00:31:37.141 --> 00:31:37.320


Yeah.00:31:37.381 --> 00:31:37.530


Yeah.00:31:37.770 --> 00:31:38.490


That's pretty cool.00:31:38.671 --> 00:31:44.490


I, I want, they used to feed lobster to like prisoners and stuff in the early America because it was.00:31:44.925 --> 00:31:47.895


So annoyingly abundant must not be good.00:31:49.395 --> 00:31:50.175


Oh, wish it still was00:31:50.746 --> 00:31:50.986


right.00:31:52.066 --> 00:31:52.726


Um,00:31:53.806 --> 00:31:55.155


but that one's staying with me a little00:31:55.846 --> 00:31:56.115


good.00:31:56.895 --> 00:31:57.615


That's what we're here for.00:32:00.375 --> 00:32:02.115


We actually have the grab bag now.00:32:02.895 --> 00:32:05.955


So I'm gonna pass this to you and ask you to draw three.00:32:06.256 --> 00:32:08.385


You must answer at least one.00:32:09.226 --> 00:32:12.046


Um, but I'll ask you all the questions, right?00:32:12.046 --> 00:32:14.355


And if you want to just grab your three and then you can hand it back to me.00:32:14.355 --> 00:32:15.526


I'll hide it back onto the table.00:32:16.546 --> 00:32:16.816


Boom.00:32:18.465 --> 00:32:18.990


And order.00:32:19.006 --> 00:32:19.816


You choose.00:32:20.836 --> 00:32:26.205


Okay, so six,00:32:26.300 --> 00:32:26.520


six.00:32:26.520 --> 00:32:27.080


This is a six.00:32:28.695 --> 00:32:33.915


If you could only eat one color of food for the rest of your life, what color would it be?00:32:34.486 --> 00:32:34.935


Hmm.00:32:42.435 --> 00:32:43.185


How about beige?00:32:45.945 --> 00:32:46.516


Sexy?00:32:46.846 --> 00:32:47.596


Are you Norwegian?00:32:47.891 --> 00:32:51.070


No, Swedish, but00:32:51.891 --> 00:32:55.230


my wife is actually from, uh, Northern European heritage and.00:32:55.786 --> 00:33:05.115


She likes to have meals once in a while where everything is like beige, beige sauerkraut with potatoes and country style ribs please.00:33:05.715 --> 00:33:08.596


But I was thinking that'll give you the greatest variety.00:33:09.016 --> 00:33:10.425


'cause then you could have fish.00:33:10.486 --> 00:33:10.816


Yeah.00:33:10.875 --> 00:33:11.865


Lots of different fishes.00:33:11.925 --> 00:33:14.191


Potato, not salmon, but otherwise, yeah.00:33:14.191 --> 00:33:14.296


Yeah.00:33:14.385 --> 00:33:15.135


French fries.00:33:15.855 --> 00:33:16.875


Um, bananas.00:33:17.415 --> 00:33:19.905


That's pretty good actually, we haven't, apples haven't touched on that.00:33:20.685 --> 00:33:21.405


Oh, you just peel them.00:33:21.705 --> 00:33:23.086


You get the bay part of the inside, right?00:33:23.086 --> 00:33:23.326


Yeah.00:33:23.530 --> 00:33:25.066


Kind of like a yellow apple though.00:33:25.336 --> 00:33:25.726


Oh, sure.00:33:25.726 --> 00:33:26.056


Pears.00:33:26.086 --> 00:33:26.355


Yep.00:33:26.476 --> 00:33:26.925


Oh yeah.00:33:26.925 --> 00:33:27.675


Asian pears.00:33:27.736 --> 00:33:27.855


Mm-hmm.00:33:28.635 --> 00:33:28.965


Yummy00:33:29.175 --> 00:33:29.326


though.00:33:29.326 --> 00:33:29.865


It's lemon.00:33:29.865 --> 00:33:30.556


Cucumbers.00:33:30.556 --> 00:33:31.965


They all, all this stuffy.00:33:33.226 --> 00:33:35.385


I guess that's kind of bey kind of yellow.00:33:35.385 --> 00:33:35.746


I'm gonna,00:33:35.746 --> 00:33:37.246


I'm gonna, you know, beige00:33:37.455 --> 00:33:38.056


yellow.00:33:38.121 --> 00:33:43.701


Spectrum of spectrum because you're so, it a boring, uh, answer with beige, uh,00:33:43.790 --> 00:33:44.661


but green, I give you a lot00:33:44.661 --> 00:33:45.441


of credit actually.00:33:45.651 --> 00:33:48.471


You, you've impressed me intellectually with coming around to that.00:33:48.500 --> 00:33:51.080


'cause I think the, like red and green is kind of the obvious.00:33:51.080 --> 00:33:53.631


Like red meat or green plants, whatever.00:33:53.661 --> 00:33:53.840


Mm-hmm.00:33:54.080 --> 00:33:55.851


I say green is very limiting.00:33:55.911 --> 00:33:56.901


Yeah, for sure.00:33:57.111 --> 00:33:58.671


There's no green meat for one thing.00:33:58.851 --> 00:33:59.090


Mm-hmm.00:33:59.330 --> 00:33:59.590


Well, I don't eat.00:34:00.151 --> 00:34:00.601


Red meat.00:34:00.601 --> 00:34:01.290


So not at all.00:34:01.296 --> 00:34:01.596


No, wouldn't big.00:34:01.596 --> 00:34:01.715


Yeah.00:34:01.721 --> 00:34:01.830


No00:34:01.830 --> 00:34:02.191


pork.00:34:02.191 --> 00:34:03.570


Just chicken and fish mostly.00:34:03.721 --> 00:34:03.901


Yeah.00:34:04.141 --> 00:34:04.740


Pescatarian.00:34:04.921 --> 00:34:06.780


Do you call yourself pescatarian with chicken PEs?00:34:07.381 --> 00:34:07.861


Oh wait, yeah.00:34:07.861 --> 00:34:08.101


Duh.00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:11.670


Well, chickens are basically like land fish.00:34:12.990 --> 00:34:13.081


Okay.00:34:13.141 --> 00:34:13.440


Yes.00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:13.800


Then I'm a pescatarian.00:34:16.380 --> 00:34:16.916


You want the next question?00:34:17.746 --> 00:34:18.235


16.00:34:21.735 --> 00:34:24.300


Who has had the most significant influence in your life?00:34:26.115 --> 00:34:28.516


Um, you know, I would say my husband.00:34:28.635 --> 00:34:28.876


Yeah.00:34:28.996 --> 00:34:29.385


Yeah.00:34:29.385 --> 00:34:32.985


He's just, I just saw something the other day where like,00:34:33.016 --> 00:34:33.585


does he have a name?00:34:34.126 --> 00:34:35.175


He has, the name is Scott.00:34:35.190 --> 00:34:35.650


Hi Scott.00:34:35.655 --> 00:34:35.746


Yeah.00:34:35.865 --> 00:34:36.076


Yeah.00:34:36.106 --> 00:34:37.005


You'll probably listen to this.00:34:37.126 --> 00:34:39.916


It was like the weighted vest club.00:34:40.036 --> 00:34:40.065


Okay.00:34:41.326 --> 00:34:41.505


I like it.00:34:41.505 --> 00:34:42.045


Do you have a weighted00:34:42.045 --> 00:34:42.615


vest yet?00:34:42.735 --> 00:34:44.626


No, um, but I've been thinking about it.00:34:44.775 --> 00:34:49.905


Honestly, my brother-in-law was wearing one for a long time, for a big event he was gonna do and stuff.00:34:50.206 --> 00:34:52.246


But this was, you know, it was on Instagram.00:34:52.246 --> 00:34:57.106


It was a joke, but you couldn't join the neighborhood vest club unless you're willing to bitch about your husband.00:34:57.405 --> 00:34:57.795


Oh.00:34:57.795 --> 00:35:02.326


And so I was like, well, like right now, he's, um.00:35:03.585 --> 00:35:06.405


He, I mean he's, we've been married for 20, he late run for mayor.00:35:06.436 --> 00:35:07.666


He let me run for mayor.00:35:07.876 --> 00:35:07.965


I know.00:35:07.965 --> 00:35:08.505


That's gotta be a00:35:08.505 --> 00:35:10.186


relationship tester, I'm sure.00:35:10.215 --> 00:35:10.425


Yeah.00:35:10.425 --> 00:35:13.755


And he is, uh, become, he's, he's testing out.00:35:13.755 --> 00:35:15.016


Did he encourage you to run for mayor?00:35:15.646 --> 00:35:16.525


Uh, or he's encouraging you?00:35:16.525 --> 00:35:16.960


No, he did not.00:35:16.965 --> 00:35:17.835


You made the decision00:35:17.835 --> 00:35:19.306


and now he's encouraging it within it.00:35:19.576 --> 00:35:19.786


Yes.00:35:19.936 --> 00:35:22.606


She's gonna do what she's gonna do and I might as well Yeah, yeah.00:35:22.606 --> 00:35:23.056


Try to help.00:35:23.056 --> 00:35:23.840


Um, so just.00:35:24.496 --> 00:35:29.385


Taking care of basically every aspect of life right now that, so I can just concentrate on running.00:35:29.445 --> 00:35:29.746


I dig it.00:35:30.166 --> 00:35:31.545


I dig it Well, good job, Scott.00:35:31.815 --> 00:35:31.996


Yeah.00:35:31.996 --> 00:35:32.565


You got a fan?00:35:33.735 --> 00:35:35.775


You wanna do the last question too, or at least hear it?00:35:35.775 --> 00:35:36.735


You can pass it.00:35:36.735 --> 00:35:37.065


We can hear it.00:35:37.065 --> 00:35:37.076


Yeah.00:35:37.076 --> 00:35:38.380


Until you've already answered 2 30, 30.00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:42.900


Describe your first kiss.00:35:43.081 --> 00:35:43.411


Oh.00:35:43.686 --> 00:35:44.340


Oh gosh.00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:45.150


Was it with Scott?00:35:45.150 --> 00:35:45.721


Probably not.00:35:46.170 --> 00:35:46.530


No.00:35:47.731 --> 00:35:49.081


Well, you have to choose what?00:35:49.561 --> 00:35:50.280


Wayne.00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:50.820


Lloyd.00:35:51.181 --> 00:35:51.811


Oh, ooh.00:35:52.110 --> 00:35:53.010


A double first date.00:35:54.181 --> 00:35:55.231


Well, first and last, yeah.00:35:55.231 --> 00:35:55.380


Well, it00:35:55.380 --> 00:35:55.621


was rural00:35:56.585 --> 00:35:57.626


Georgia, so.00:35:57.735 --> 00:35:58.025


Okay.00:35:58.025 --> 00:35:58.146


Well00:35:58.170 --> 00:35:59.610


that's, there's a lot of Wayne Lloyds down there.00:36:00.090 --> 00:36:00.181


Mm-hmm.00:36:00.721 --> 00:36:03.811


I think we, we went out for three days, so, okay.00:36:04.081 --> 00:36:04.231


Yeah.00:36:04.351 --> 00:36:05.431


And you were in what grade?00:36:05.791 --> 00:36:06.360


Um.00:36:07.170 --> 00:36:08.550


I think it was eighth grade.00:36:08.581 --> 00:36:09.331


Okay.00:36:09.331 --> 00:36:09.960


Yeah, yeah, yeah.00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:10.891


I snuck a quick on00:36:10.891 --> 00:36:11.701


Ville Middle school.00:36:11.851 --> 00:36:11.940


Yeah.00:36:11.940 --> 00:36:13.141


Underneath the bleachers or something?00:36:13.380 --> 00:36:16.170


No, waiting for the buses to come.00:36:16.260 --> 00:36:17.221


Oh, really?00:36:18.030 --> 00:36:19.110


Just closed it.00:36:19.110 --> 00:36:19.650


Oh yeah.00:36:19.655 --> 00:36:19.706


Yeah.00:36:19.771 --> 00:36:21.721


Well, Wayne, you missed out.00:36:22.170 --> 00:36:23.251


I'm just kidding.00:36:25.081 --> 00:36:30.661


I think we're ready for the next, like, so this one.00:36:30.721 --> 00:36:31.561


Oh, I can take those back.00:36:31.561 --> 00:36:31.920


Thank you.00:36:35.206 --> 00:36:38.985


This one is the red from Matador.00:36:39.135 --> 00:36:39.675


Okay.00:36:39.675 --> 00:36:41.385


Does it have any sort of description?00:36:41.626 --> 00:36:42.556


Uh, the red.00:36:42.916 --> 00:36:43.275


Okay.00:36:45.675 --> 00:36:47.115


But it's not a true red.00:36:48.045 --> 00:36:48.436


I mean,00:36:48.851 --> 00:36:49.460


it's got a little,00:36:49.811 --> 00:36:53.896


yeah, it's got some brownish tones in there, I guess, or whatever.00:36:53.925 --> 00:36:54.740


Yeah, it could be redder.00:36:59.731 --> 00:37:00.271


Hmm.00:37:00.811 --> 00:37:01.291


Okay.00:37:01.561 --> 00:37:02.130


You like that one?00:37:02.641 --> 00:37:03.451


Now we're moving up.00:37:07.231 --> 00:37:07.530


Hmm.00:37:08.431 --> 00:37:09.150


Little smokier?00:37:09.510 --> 00:37:09.871


Yeah.00:37:10.170 --> 00:37:10.291


Mm-hmm.00:37:10.891 --> 00:37:13.860


It must have some kind of smoked pepper in there as part of that base.00:37:16.246 --> 00:37:17.266


I eating all of my nuggets.00:37:17.746 --> 00:37:20.266


Uh, which I got another podcast right after this.00:37:21.556 --> 00:37:24.916


Lately I've been doing it'cause I was getting hungry after the five o'clock podcast.00:37:24.916 --> 00:37:27.346


But I should stop, I should start doing partials.00:37:28.126 --> 00:37:28.275


Okay.00:37:32.025 --> 00:37:33.585


How would you describe that to your friends?00:37:34.695 --> 00:37:36.706


Smoky, spicy, but I'm.00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:37.110


Pretty,00:37:37.740 --> 00:37:38.311


you're managing00:37:38.311 --> 00:37:38.460


it.00:37:39.150 --> 00:37:41.280


Spice limited, I'd say so.00:37:41.340 --> 00:37:43.201


Well, you seem to be toughing it out pretty good.00:37:43.201 --> 00:37:44.701


You're not like freaking out or anything.00:37:45.061 --> 00:37:45.990


I wouldn't staying with me though.00:37:46.411 --> 00:37:46.740


Yeah.00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:47.581


Yeah.00:37:47.940 --> 00:37:48.331


Well, good.00:37:48.541 --> 00:37:49.021


A little milk.00:37:49.471 --> 00:37:49.561


Mm-hmm.00:37:49.891 --> 00:37:51.121


Before we get onto this next question,00:37:51.990 --> 00:37:53.820


it's, yeah, it just keeps giving,00:37:55.141 --> 00:37:59.371


I think if that keeps on giving, um, the community hot topic.00:37:59.940 --> 00:38:06.210


How can the city of Fort Collins maintain financial strength in light of declining sales tax collection trends?00:38:06.990 --> 00:38:12.601


What mix of cost cutting and revenue enhancement strategies do you envision as being the most important?00:38:13.590 --> 00:38:13.920


Yeah.00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:17.911


So, um, this is our topic for tomorrow night is budget.00:38:17.940 --> 00:38:18.360


Okay.00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:20.641


And at city council, I guess?00:38:20.641 --> 00:38:20.940


Yes.00:38:20.971 --> 00:38:21.271


Okay.00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:22.110


And, um.00:38:22.981 --> 00:38:25.380


You know, I came on council at a pretty interesting time.00:38:25.380 --> 00:38:30.271


I would say it was 2021, um, April, 2021.00:38:30.271 --> 00:38:32.670


So we were still kind of in the midst of COVID.00:38:32.670 --> 00:38:32.731


Yeah.00:38:32.731 --> 00:38:37.590


Everything was, uh, still kind of remote and I'm still tasting S spice.00:38:37.981 --> 00:38:38.431


Um,00:38:38.971 --> 00:38:39.420


good job, Paul.00:38:40.981 --> 00:38:41.731


But you kinda like it.00:38:41.731 --> 00:38:43.021


Am I sensing that correctly?00:38:43.021 --> 00:38:45.090


Like it's kind of a good pain.00:38:45.090 --> 00:38:47.760


That's the hitting my, getting towards my limit.00:38:48.210 --> 00:38:48.661


Um.00:38:48.871 --> 00:38:51.150


But money was flowing.00:38:51.150 --> 00:38:52.081


It was a tough time.00:38:52.081 --> 00:38:52.380


Right.00:38:52.710 --> 00:38:53.880


So, you know, the,00:38:54.871 --> 00:39:04.380


I mean, I think that's part of the problem is the city kind of grew, its spendings a lot because of temporary dollars and those dollars have gone away in some parts.00:39:04.710 --> 00:39:05.101


Yeah.00:39:05.101 --> 00:39:10.951


And I think we tried to be really mindful where we could, that this was temporary money that wasn't going to stay.00:39:11.010 --> 00:39:11.311


Yeah.00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:12.905


But, um, I don't.00:39:13.771 --> 00:39:18.391


I think there needs to be, I, I, I'm seeing this as an opportunity.00:39:18.630 --> 00:39:18.690


Okay.00:39:18.690 --> 00:39:21.661


We can be, we can be scrappy and Okay.00:39:21.780 --> 00:39:29.306


I think, you know, when you do have an opportunity to tighten your belts, I'll, I'll call it dot, the sauce is affecting you a little bit at this point.00:39:30.166 --> 00:39:34.110


Um, it makes you examine what you're spending money on.00:39:34.110 --> 00:39:34.320


Yeah.00:39:34.380 --> 00:39:34.690


And is it.00:39:35.190 --> 00:39:37.021


The priorities that you really want.00:39:37.021 --> 00:39:39.871


So I, I am seeing this as an opportunity.00:39:39.871 --> 00:39:41.760


It's not going to be the easiest.00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:43.320


So there will be some cost cutting,00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:48.570


there'll be cost, cost cutting, and, but I think we can like work around the edges.00:39:48.811 --> 00:39:53.311


Uh, you know, my hu like my husband's been an unemployed a couple times.00:39:53.311 --> 00:39:53.731


Yeah.00:39:53.731 --> 00:39:59.251


And when that happens, you really kind of dig into your budget and you're like, wow, I didn't realize I had that00:39:59.251 --> 00:40:00.030


subscription.00:40:00.030 --> 00:40:00.420


Totally.00:40:00.630 --> 00:40:01.900


And you know, just trying to.00:40:02.956 --> 00:40:16.755


My wife and I adapted from a hundred thousand dollars income to a$60,000 income when I left banking to start a restaurant that didn't work and turned into local think tank that did kinda, you know, so, and, but it was.00:40:16.891 --> 00:40:16.951


Yeah.00:40:17.490 --> 00:40:21.811


One of the best seasons because we had to figure out how to Yeah.00:40:21.811 --> 00:40:24.871


You know, and we didn't see nearly as many concerts anymore.00:40:25.710 --> 00:40:28.050


We didn't go to beaches nearly as often.00:40:28.050 --> 00:40:29.521


You know, there was real sacrifice.00:40:29.581 --> 00:40:29.940


Yeah.00:40:30.391 --> 00:40:37.771


And there, there will be some changes that won't be, um, as enjoyable as it would've been if we had that same00:40:38.130 --> 00:40:38.371


sure00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:39.630


option that we did.00:40:39.630 --> 00:40:42.030


Like 20 21, 20 22.00:40:42.030 --> 00:40:42.300


Yeah.00:40:42.481 --> 00:40:43.530


But, um.00:40:44.190 --> 00:40:47.161


I think there's ways that we can make it not as painful.00:40:47.161 --> 00:40:52.231


So for instance, we were hiring someone to help, uh, do that work well.00:40:52.936 --> 00:41:00.255


We hadn't filled that position and now we've already rolled it into another position that's like a 50% of one FTE's job now.00:41:01.065 --> 00:41:03.496


So is the public gonna really feel that difference?00:41:04.036 --> 00:41:04.126


Right?00:41:04.126 --> 00:41:04.965


I don't think so.00:41:05.206 --> 00:41:07.846


Is that like the volunteers that cross the streets and stuff?00:41:08.206 --> 00:41:08.806


Well, just really00:41:08.806 --> 00:41:16.335


identifying where there are shortcomings in our students safely reaching school and what are the road projects that we need to occur.00:41:16.666 --> 00:41:20.175


Um, making sure there's sidewalks or bike trails that really help.00:41:20.175 --> 00:41:20.356


Gotcha.00:41:20.385 --> 00:41:22.005


But somebody just figuring all that out.00:41:22.070 --> 00:41:23.570


Um, is hard.00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:24.201


Yeah.00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:24.530


Yeah.00:41:24.530 --> 00:41:25.940


But maybe it doesn't need to be a full-timer.00:41:26.181 --> 00:41:26.570


Yeah.00:41:26.630 --> 00:41:33.771


And so I think then too, like we, we have a chance to look through our budget, see where we're not being as efficient as possible.00:41:34.431 --> 00:41:36.920


You know, the hiring freeze is helping to.00:41:38.371 --> 00:41:46.891


We're, everyone gets, everyone is keeping their positions, but do we really need all these positions that we had intended to hire for?00:41:46.981 --> 00:41:47.041


Yeah.00:41:47.610 --> 00:41:53.190


Um, so I think there's that, and I think we can really look at technology and how we can incorporate it.00:41:53.581 --> 00:41:59.940


Um, cities like Commerce City and Castle Rock have started going to, um, drone first responders.00:42:00.391 --> 00:42:04.945


So you know when you're somewhere and all of a sudden you see.00:42:05.956 --> 00:42:08.416


Four police cars and three ambulance.00:42:08.416 --> 00:42:08.746


Sure.00:42:08.956 --> 00:42:13.186


So what if a drone said, was able to evaluate this situation?00:42:13.365 --> 00:42:13.576


Oh.00:42:13.576 --> 00:42:15.585


And said This is what we need here.00:42:15.615 --> 00:42:16.065


Yeah,00:42:16.246 --> 00:42:17.626


so that's, you know, I have00:42:17.626 --> 00:42:20.940


seen it at times where there's like seven cop cars and it's one dude and his.00:42:21.826 --> 00:42:24.525


Volkswagen and you're like, did everybody need to come?00:42:24.525 --> 00:42:25.126


You know, where's00:42:25.485 --> 00:42:25.965


Yeah.00:42:26.146 --> 00:42:31.335


And then last week I had the opportunity to, um, tour the jail.00:42:32.025 --> 00:42:34.456


And that was a really interesting conversation.00:42:34.456 --> 00:42:38.451


Part of it was, um, each, um, inmate now gets a tablet.00:42:39.585 --> 00:42:43.456


And I know you're like, wait, that so seems like a big expense.00:42:43.456 --> 00:42:45.346


Why would we give each inmate a tablet?00:42:45.585 --> 00:42:45.795


Well,00:42:46.126 --> 00:42:46.635


but00:42:46.755 --> 00:42:50.206


if it decreases their recidivism, because they can actually educate.00:42:50.445 --> 00:42:50.655


Right.00:42:50.655 --> 00:42:55.936


But all their, um, any visits they need to have with their lawyer or other services.00:42:56.175 --> 00:43:00.315


They can schedule through the tablet and not need to interact with a staff member.00:43:00.465 --> 00:43:00.585


Hmm.00:43:00.675 --> 00:43:03.735


If they want books, it comes through the tablet.00:43:04.126 --> 00:43:04.186


Yeah.00:43:04.186 --> 00:43:07.065


You know, if they're taking classes, they can take it through the tablet.00:43:07.365 --> 00:43:12.405


And also like their earphones are plugged into the tablet to watch the tv.00:43:12.675 --> 00:43:16.786


So there's like, it was remarkably quiet in the pods.00:43:16.996 --> 00:43:17.115


Hmm.00:43:17.550 --> 00:43:19.380


So there's less fighting.00:43:19.590 --> 00:43:25.411


And so all that staff time that's being saved and all those interactions, so it, they were,00:43:25.710 --> 00:43:26.820


it's just give'em screen time.00:43:26.820 --> 00:43:28.501


It's like how you get rid of your annoying kids.00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:29.400


Yeah.00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.891


But it was, it was more like, I'm teasing a little bit.00:43:32.581 --> 00:43:32.760


Oh.00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:41.371


And all their mail comes through on the tablets, so it's another way, you know, instead of going and passing out all these males Sure.00:43:41.371 --> 00:43:41.920


And, and00:43:42.150 --> 00:43:43.201


walking around.00:43:43.291 --> 00:43:43.650


Yeah.00:43:43.650 --> 00:43:45.181


So it was really remarkable.00:43:45.181 --> 00:43:46.561


I hadn't thought about,00:43:46.590 --> 00:43:46.650


yeah.00:43:47.326 --> 00:43:47.505


Okay.00:43:47.746 --> 00:43:54.735


How that tablet is saving so many hours and, and staff time and makes the job of the deputies there easier.00:43:54.735 --> 00:44:01.126


So I, I think, you know, how do we look at technology in that way that we can save money and time and00:44:01.576 --> 00:44:01.606


Okay.00:44:01.606 --> 00:44:05.235


So you don't imagine necessarily raising taxes to try to cover the shortfall?00:44:05.536 --> 00:44:07.666


No, I, I don't see that happening right now.00:44:07.726 --> 00:44:07.755


Okay.00:44:07.936 --> 00:44:08.175


Yeah.00:44:08.295 --> 00:44:08.476


Alright.00:44:10.036 --> 00:44:13.755


And I, I do think that we also have to look on the positive side.00:44:13.996 --> 00:44:14.146


Yeah.00:44:14.416 --> 00:44:16.306


How do we bring in other businesses?00:44:16.740 --> 00:44:22.050


How do we bring in those sectors that we've talked about and we're really concentrate on economic development.00:44:22.081 --> 00:44:22.351


Yeah.00:44:22.891 --> 00:44:27.331


Well, I mean, being a really efficient city would be an amazing thing, right?00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:27.601


Yeah.00:44:28.860 --> 00:44:34.320


Before I drift to the next question, I'm thinking about like, like the parks and the maintenance of the parks and stuff.00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:34.411


Mm-hmm.00:44:34.650 --> 00:44:37.860


Is a huge number like.00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:39.001


Yeah.00:44:39.570 --> 00:44:40.561


Anything to be done there?00:44:40.561 --> 00:44:44.911


Would you ever envision giving any parks back or anything like that or,00:44:45.510 --> 00:44:50.076


well, you know, we pa thanks to all of our residents who passed the 2050 Yeah.00:44:50.081 --> 00:44:50.280


Yeah.00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:54.210


Tax to help, um, refresh our parks and keep them moving forward.00:44:54.630 --> 00:44:58.621


Um, I do think, you know, maybe we have to get used to.00:45:00.255 --> 00:45:04.695


The turf being mowed every week and a half instead of every week.00:45:04.695 --> 00:45:05.115


Like yeah.00:45:05.175 --> 00:45:07.996


Could we do with a little less perfection in Fort Collins?00:45:08.025 --> 00:45:08.536


Yeah,00:45:08.925 --> 00:45:09.945


that's an interesting question.00:45:10.065 --> 00:45:10.335


Yeah.00:45:10.786 --> 00:45:14.431


Maybe the flowers, we were just down in Boulder, my exchange student and I, uh mm-hmm.00:45:14.510 --> 00:45:16.425


Took a 150 mile motorcycle right.00:45:16.425 --> 00:45:17.025


On Saturday.00:45:17.175 --> 00:45:17.596


Wow.00:45:17.686 --> 00:45:22.365


And, uh, went down to Netherland and then dropped down Boulder Canyon and hung out in Old Pearl Street.00:45:23.565 --> 00:45:26.146


Fort Collins Flowers are way better than Pearl Street Flowers.00:45:26.326 --> 00:45:28.666


Just saying in Boulder, you, you got ways to go.00:45:28.666 --> 00:45:29.925


'cause we, I don't know if they're just better.00:45:30.465 --> 00:45:30.675


Yeah.00:45:30.675 --> 00:45:43.186


I was in Old Town yesterday and I saw these two women going up to the flowers and examining all the different leaves and I was like, it's so nice to see people really engage with what we've invested in our old town.00:45:43.186 --> 00:45:43.365


Right.00:45:43.396 --> 00:45:44.626


What makes it really special?00:45:44.626 --> 00:45:45.556


And you know.00:45:45.990 --> 00:45:50.460


I'd love to have one third of the flower budget in my bank account.00:45:50.581 --> 00:45:51.451


'cause that would be a lot.00:45:51.541 --> 00:45:51.721


Yeah.00:45:52.115 --> 00:45:52.235


Yeah.00:45:52.380 --> 00:45:55.501


So, so it goes, um, this is the last one.00:45:55.860 --> 00:46:01.710


This is the, uh, I forget the Room two 17.00:46:02.490 --> 00:46:12.210


Uh, this is also from, uh, well, it's called Brewhouse Sauces, but Old Town Spice Shop retails this on their website and it's ghost pepper, uh, in part.00:46:12.210 --> 00:46:12.971


So you've got.00:46:13.576 --> 00:46:15.226


Just enough milk left probably.00:46:15.226 --> 00:46:16.126


You feel good about that?00:46:21.240 --> 00:46:22.425


I don't think I like those words together.00:46:24.135 --> 00:46:24.315


Here.00:46:24.315 --> 00:46:27.255


Want me to, here I can tip this so you can get a nice, good.00:46:27.346 --> 00:46:39.016


This is the last dab, so I think I'm gonna dab The tradition is to just gonna dab the tradition is to like soak it up real good, but you can get more if you want to on the backside.00:46:41.206 --> 00:46:41.536


Taste it.00:46:46.965 --> 00:46:47.056


Yeah.00:46:48.226 --> 00:46:48.976


Tasting notes.00:46:49.485 --> 00:46:49.876


Hmm.00:46:52.846 --> 00:46:55.096


Well, I don't typically go that hot though.00:46:55.485 --> 00:46:56.925


It's a little hard to describe.00:46:56.925 --> 00:47:02.235


Definitely more heat than everything else, than still like blooming.00:47:04.081 --> 00:47:06.795


What would you say about the flavor profile outside of the heat?00:47:12.181 --> 00:47:14.550


I don't really know'cause I'm just concentrating on the heat.00:47:15.601 --> 00:47:21.210


This actually reminds me of, I, I did a quite a bit of research watching Hot Ones, uh, episodes.00:47:21.871 --> 00:47:27.811


I don't know if you're familiar with that show, but this is at least a, an honoring tribute to, um.00:47:28.606 --> 00:47:31.936


Like movie actresses and stuff come on to promote their new movie.00:47:32.115 --> 00:47:32.326


Mm-hmm.00:47:32.686 --> 00:47:37.996


Um, but have to go through an experience kinda like this, but with hot wings and even hotter sauces.00:47:38.715 --> 00:47:45.885


Um, we're being gentle in comparison, but, uh, it's surprising how much your brain can't really.00:47:47.596 --> 00:47:53.596


Do things right when you're really heated up and you're trying to think and talk and mm-hmm.00:47:54.016 --> 00:47:58.456


Drink milk and reflect on flavor profiles.00:48:00.976 --> 00:48:02.206


I think there's a little bit of, I.00:48:06.690 --> 00:48:08.760


Like, is there some Scotch bonnet in there too?00:48:08.760 --> 00:48:13.050


It almost feels like in addition to the Ghost Pepper that has got a little bit of that cream flavor.00:48:13.050 --> 00:48:15.451


I don't, don't eat that either, so it's too hot for me too.00:48:17.371 --> 00:48:24.210


So this is the really the only part of this conversation that's traditional to the Loco Experience Podcast, which is the closing segment.00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:30.451


The craziest story or moment from your lifetime that you're willing to share with our listeners?00:48:30.811 --> 00:48:31.561


You are sweating, huh?00:48:31.590 --> 00:48:31.920


Oh, yeah.00:48:32.010 --> 00:48:32.311


Oh yeah.00:48:32.311 --> 00:48:32.971


No, I'm sweaty Betty.00:48:36.121 --> 00:48:36.420


Okay.00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:38.581


Let's see if I can say this.00:48:38.581 --> 00:48:39.240


Muscle through.00:48:39.451 --> 00:48:39.780


Yeah.00:48:39.900 --> 00:48:40.981


My spicy story.00:48:41.940 --> 00:48:46.561


Um, so summer I was 22.00:48:46.561 --> 00:48:46.951


I.00:48:47.340 --> 00:48:51.630


Was backpacking across Europe with my then boyfriend, now husband.00:48:52.081 --> 00:48:52.501


Oh, really?00:48:52.590 --> 00:48:52.920


Okay.00:48:52.981 --> 00:48:53.041


Yeah.00:48:53.041 --> 00:48:56.101


And we went to the running of the bowls in Pamplona.00:48:56.161 --> 00:48:56.610


One of my good00:48:56.610 --> 00:48:57.871


friends just came back from that00:48:58.501 --> 00:48:58.650


Oh.00:48:58.650 --> 00:48:59.431


Uh, like a week and a half ago.00:48:59.431 --> 00:48:59.940


Did he run?00:49:00.181 --> 00:49:01.141


He did, yeah.00:49:01.740 --> 00:49:02.760


And they didn't get trampled.00:49:03.271 --> 00:49:03.751


Good job.00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:04.021


Yep.00:49:05.130 --> 00:49:10.170


He was talking about how like if you're older, you have to kind of like get like screened at the gate.00:49:10.170 --> 00:49:12.690


Nowadays they, they, if you're over 60, I think.00:49:13.590 --> 00:49:16.501


It's cool, but you, you gotta like, they'll, they'll scope for you.00:49:16.501 --> 00:49:20.130


If you look like you're 75 and you move like you're 75, they're not gonna let you in anymore.00:49:20.581 --> 00:49:20.701


Yeah.00:49:20.701 --> 00:49:22.141


They, they were not screening.00:49:22.965 --> 00:49:23.085


No,00:49:23.085 --> 00:49:23.405


that's,00:49:23.945 --> 00:49:25.681


and then that's why old people got trampled.00:49:25.681 --> 00:49:27.451


'cause they didn't do no screening anyway.00:49:27.451 --> 00:49:27.990


So you're at the00:49:28.411 --> 00:49:28.681


Yep.00:49:28.981 --> 00:49:31.920


And, um, I did not run with the bowls.00:49:32.070 --> 00:49:34.530


My, my husband and his best friend did.00:49:34.530 --> 00:49:34.561


Okay.00:49:34.710 --> 00:49:36.721


Um, but there is the tower.00:49:37.456 --> 00:49:48.346


In this, um, square where everybody was hanging out and dancing and having fun, and people were climbing this 15 foot tower and diving into the crowd below.00:49:48.465 --> 00:49:48.585


Oh, okay.00:49:50.476 --> 00:49:53.626


So I made a bet with another girl that if she did it, I'd do it.00:49:53.626 --> 00:50:01.360


And unfortunately, she climbed the tower and dove off into the crowd and, uh, you know, people were holding their arms.00:50:02.596 --> 00:50:09.271


Uh, across and with the, the people across from them to catch the people as they jumped or dove and, um.00:50:10.621 --> 00:50:14.340


Huge guy ahead of me was like 6 3, 6 4.00:50:15.001 --> 00:50:15.601


They caught him.00:50:16.050 --> 00:50:16.800


No problem.00:50:16.860 --> 00:50:22.170


Well, you gotta remember when you dive into a crowd, you need to belly flop and not swan die.00:50:22.231 --> 00:50:22.351


Oh00:50:22.351 --> 00:50:22.681


shit.00:50:24.271 --> 00:50:26.971


So I dove between their hands and, oh no.00:50:26.971 --> 00:50:31.650


Got to visit a Spanish emergency room and slashed open my hip and00:50:31.831 --> 00:50:32.550


Oh dang.00:50:32.641 --> 00:50:33.030


Yeah.00:50:33.121 --> 00:50:34.021


Your head didn't hit the ground though.00:50:34.021 --> 00:50:34.320


My head00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:35.340


did not hit the ground.00:50:35.340 --> 00:50:36.271


So, um.00:50:36.675 --> 00:50:40.155


The Spanish doctor, luckily she spoke French.00:50:40.155 --> 00:50:43.036


I spoke French'cause we didn't have other language in common.00:50:43.036 --> 00:50:45.856


And um, she just was like, you dumb foreigners.00:50:47.025 --> 00:50:49.576


We, Spaniards are too smart to do this, right.00:50:49.635 --> 00:50:53.956


It's just the Americans and sometimes the Aussies who this dumb shit.00:50:53.956 --> 00:51:00.016


So nobody died, um, with the running of the bowls, but three people died diving from the tower that week.00:51:00.016 --> 00:51:00.346


For reals?00:51:00.391 --> 00:51:00.590


Yeah.00:51:00.891 --> 00:51:01.391


Oh dang.00:51:01.905 --> 00:51:02.175


Yeah.00:51:02.416 --> 00:51:03.746


So I felt very lucky with just my.00:51:04.576 --> 00:51:05.715


Yeah, my sliced open hip.00:51:05.715 --> 00:51:09.856


Well, and you're lucky somebody deflected your swan dive away from the ground at least.00:51:10.726 --> 00:51:10.965


Yeah.00:51:11.686 --> 00:51:11.746


Yeah.00:51:11.775 --> 00:51:13.186


So that's the lesson.00:51:13.335 --> 00:51:14.626


Don't swan dive, the newer crowd.00:51:16.141 --> 00:51:16.561


Never.00:51:16.590 --> 00:51:17.371


Yeah, I never will.00:51:17.490 --> 00:51:21.630


No, I'm, I'm an expert at back flopping, so I think I would just do that.00:51:23.610 --> 00:51:26.161


Well, Tricia, I thank you for the time.00:51:26.340 --> 00:51:26.701


Well, thank you Kurt.00:51:26.701 --> 00:51:35.251


Um, it looks like your nose is starting to run at least a little bit there, so I'm glad I You're not as sweaty as me though,'cause um, then you wouldn't be able to endure this election season.00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:39.661


Yeah, it's gonna, it's gonna heat up still.00:51:40.081 --> 00:51:41.010


No, it's still heating.00:51:41.251 --> 00:51:41.371


Yeah.00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:43.891


Thanks again.00:51:44.130 --> 00:51:44.791


Well, thank you.00:51:45.001 --> 00:51:46.081


I appreciate the invitation.00:51:46.081 --> 00:51:46.951


That's good luck in November.00:51:47.041 --> 00:51:47.431


Thank you.00:51:47.496 --> 00:51:47.985


Bye-bye.